Re: which IDE are you using for JSF ?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Spencer

Adrian,
I use Eclipse with MyEclipse.  As to you need for drag and drop and 
autocompletion for EL expressions and tags, that will be a challenge. 
MyEclipse does offer some autocompete and validation, but when you are 
using new release of MyFaces/Shale/... taglibs the IDE can lag behind.



Paul Spencer


Adrian Gonzalez wrote:

Hello,

Is there a good IDE (drag and drop and autocompletion for EL expressions and 
tags) for facelets or Clay technology ?

What IDE are you using to create JSF apps ?


My current purpose is to see if one can use JSF for mainstream development 
(developers with little
experience in Java / web technologies), so drag  drop,
autocompletion would be a must - the company has currently developed ~100 web 
apps.




Seeking advice on the trinidad user list, I've been given pointers to use 
facelets or shale Clay, to really AVOID JSP for rendering, and to ask to this 
mailing list (thanks Gary for the tip !), since there's a lot of knowledgeable 
people (such as Ryan Wynn ;)).

I'm just using IBM RAD 6, and it's quite difficult (ibm proprietary components, 
JSF 1.0, JSP...) - I've integrated myfaces on it, simulating dummy ibm 
components - since IBM's are tied to SUN RI, but it's doesn't appear to be a 
good solution even if it's working.

Thanks

P.S. sorry this question is not really a Shale question








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Re: which IDE are you using for JSF ?

2007-02-02 Thread Greg Reddin

We are using NetBeans with the mevenide plugin for maven support.  We are
also using Facelets and the new Facelets Netbeans plugin.  That gives us
autocomplete but not drag  drop (I don't think).  Seems to be working
great.  On a team of 5 two were PHP types before this project and one other
had some experience in Java.  The other two of us are pretty experienced
Java programmers and helped bring the others along.

Greg


Re : which IDE are you using for JSF ?

2007-02-02 Thread Adrian Gonzalez
Thank you very much for the info.

I've also found these liks after googling :

Eclipse WTP (free) or 
- using Eclipse WTP as suggested by Rick Hightower [1], basically :
. you need to rename .xhtml extension to jspx.
. you need to add some jsp directives such as jsp:root).
.  I'm not sure, but expect some difficulties websphere appserver, all 
calls to jspx files are directed to jsp container.
- More for Eclipse WTP :

Mail exchange to add facelet suport to Eclipse WTP - don't know if there's 
something implemented now or if it's forgotten [3].


RAD (very commercial ;)):
- same approach on RAD as WTP. But gives drag and drop capacities.

. some more problems on RAD 6 : the designer adds ibm jsf libraries
automatically on the first drag and drop, and some JSF components (such
as f:view, hx:scriptCollector, h:form).


Exadel Studio Pro (commercial)
http://www.exadel.com/web/portal/products/ExadelStudioPro

An old link on Myfaces wiki [2]

[1] 
http://www-03.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JEE?entry=tutorial_for_stack_of_choice)
[2] 
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/What_Tools_Do_You_Use_to_Develop_Web_Applications_Using_JSF
[3] http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-jsf-dev/msg00223.html
- Message d'origine 
De : Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : user@shale.apache.org
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Objet : Re: which IDE are you using for JSF ?

On 2/2/07, Adrian Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 Is there a good IDE (drag and drop and autocompletion for EL expressions
 and tags) for facelets or Clay technology ?

 What IDE are you using to create JSF apps ?


NetBeans has out-of-the-box support for autocompletion of EL expressions in
a JSP page.  For facelets, there is a fairly new plugin[1] that I haven't
tried yet, but is worth checking out.

(By the way, and it's definitely not ready for prime time yet, I also just
started a NetBeans plugin project for general Shale support[2].  Anyone who
wants to contribute Clay related editing, or any other Shale features, for
NB is welcome to join!)

Craig

[1] https://nbfaceletssupport.dev.java.net
[2] https://nbshalesupport.dev.java.net


My current purpose is to see if one can use JSF for mainstream development
 (developers with little
 experience in Java / web technologies), so drag  drop,
 autocompletion would be a must - the company has currently developed ~100
 web apps.




 Seeking advice on the trinidad user list, I've been given pointers to use
 facelets or shale Clay, to really AVOID JSP for rendering, and to ask to
 this mailing list (thanks Gary for the tip !), since there's a lot of
 knowledgeable people (such as Ryan Wynn ;)).

 I'm just using IBM RAD 6, and it's quite difficult (ibm proprietary
 components, JSF 1.0, JSP...) - I've integrated myfaces on it, simulating
 dummy ibm components - since IBM's are tied to SUN RI, but it's doesn't
 appear to be a good solution even if it's working.

 Thanks

 P.S. sorry this question is not really a Shale question









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