Re: AW: [OT]Linux server market share...
LOL! Based on the .net developers I have worked with so far, I concur. Example: The company I currently work for hired a ".NET Expert" to come help us get moving with our first .net project. On the first day, we were discussing data caching. .Net Expert: Put it in the asp.net cache object (like application scope in tomcat). Me: Well, what about data that is not global? It may vary by user. .NE: Put it in session scope ME: Can we cache it in the Data Access Layer? That way, it is not managed in the application. In Java, I would let iBATIS do it for me. .NE: Oh yeah, not a problem, we can have the DAL do the caching, easy, easy, easy. His solution: Pass the page object into the DAL when you create it, then it can do the caching using the asp.net cache objects. >blink< >blink< I had to leave the room to keep from throttling him. Larry On 6/30/05, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 08:48 -0400, Ed Griebel wrote: > > This is scary indeed. For Western NY, there's 2x .net jobs compared to > > plain Java, and 8x more .net than j2ee. > > > > However, consider that MS has marketed hard that any kind of > > development with Microsoft can now be tagged ".Net", which inflates > > the figures. At least that's my story :-) > > > Hehe, I think my story is better: The "so called" .net projects end in > disaster 8x more often then java projects, therefore they are in > continious recruitment to replace people they just fired... > > :-) > Leon > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: [OT]Linux server market share...
On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 08:48 -0400, Ed Griebel wrote: > This is scary indeed. For Western NY, there's 2x .net jobs compared to > plain Java, and 8x more .net than j2ee. > > However, consider that MS has marketed hard that any kind of > development with Microsoft can now be tagged ".Net", which inflates > the figures. At least that's my story :-) Hehe, I think my story is better: The "so called" .net projects end in disaster 8x more often then java projects, therefore they are in continious recruitment to replace people they just fired... :-) Leon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: [OT]Linux server market share...
This is scary indeed. For Western NY, there's 2x .net jobs compared to plain Java, and 8x more .net than j2ee. However, consider that MS has marketed hard that any kind of development with Microsoft can now be tagged ".Net", which inflates the figures. At least that's my story :-) -ed On 6/29/05, Yan Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Even then, most of us will agree that 20.54% for IIS is about 20% to much > 2 years make it even worse.. Search on monster for .NET and J2EE > Compare the number of > jobs and do the same thing at www.indeed.com,which aggregate everything from > All big jobsites in > the US. Job numbers for NET and J2EE on indeed.com is almost scary... > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: [OT]Linux server market share...
Cool site. Runs Java using Apache on Linux , FWIW. Larry On 6/29/05, Yan Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Even then, most of us will agree that 20.54% for IIS is about 20% to much > 2 years make it even worse.. Search on monster for .NET and J2EE > Compare the number of > jobs and do the same thing at www.indeed.com,which aggregate everything from > All big jobsites in > the US. Job numbers for NET and J2EE on indeed.com is almost scary... > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Even then, most of us will agree that 20.54% for IIS is about 20% to much 2 years make it even worse.. Search on monster for .NET and J2EE Compare the number of jobs and do the same thing at www.indeed.com,which aggregate everything from All big jobsites in the US. Job numbers for NET and J2EE on indeed.com is almost scary... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: [OT]Linux server market share...
Sorry, my mistake, apache is at 69.37% and rising. Microsoft has 20.54% and stagnating ... Others are ncsa, sun and even others... By the way... I think you are kidding, since you original statement: "Look at the job market for the server side now. 3 years ago, .Net took only 20% of the server side market. Now it is creeping up to 40%. " is nonesence, since there were no .Net 3 years ago... .Net was first released end of 2002, right? Even then, most of us will agree that 20.54% for IIS is about 20% to much :-) Regards Leon > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Yan Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2005 00:15 > An: Struts Users Mailing List > Betreff: Re: [OT]Linux server market share... > > If Apache web server takes 60% where did the 40% go? IIS > right? I think other web servers are almost negoligiable. > > --- Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yan Hu wrote: > > > > >>Since linux has clearly more then 50% of the server market > > >> > > >> > > >Linux has never had more than 30% of the server market > > >http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P5013_0_6_0_C > > > > > > > > Was probably referring to web server market share. > > > > Dve > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: [OT]Linux server market share...
Sorry, my mistake, apache is at 69.37% and rising. Microsoft has 20.54% and stagnating ... Others are ncsa, sun and even others... By the way... I think you are kidding, since you original statement: "Look at the job market for the server side now. 3 years ago, .Net took only 20% of the server side market. Now it is creeping up to 40%. " is nonesence, since there were no .Net 3 years ago... .Net was first released end of 2002, right? Even then, most of us will agree that 20.54% for IIS is about 20% to much :-) Regards Leon > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Yan Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2005 00:15 > An: Struts Users Mailing List > Betreff: Re: [OT]Linux server market share... > > If Apache web server takes 60% where did the 40% go? IIS > right? I think other web servers are almost negoligiable. > > --- Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yan Hu wrote: > > > > >>Since linux has clearly more then 50% of the server market > > >> > > >> > > >Linux has never had more than 30% of the server market > > >http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P5013_0_6_0_C > > > > > > > > Was probably referring to web server market share. > > > > Dve > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lies, bad lies, statistics... Are we talking about sales or about servers? Check this out: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html I hardly believe that there are servers running apache on windoz... Or how do you explain 60% apache? Most of companies I know do not buy servers by hp or ibm, and therefore fall out of your statistics... Regards Leon > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Yan Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2005 00:01 > An: Struts Users Mailing List > Betreff: [OT]Linux server market share... > > > Since linux has clearly more then 50% of the server market > Linux has never had more than 30% of the server market > http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P5013_0_6_0_C > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: [OT]Linux server market share...
Lies, bad lies, statistics... Are we talking about sales or about servers? Check this out: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html I hardly believe that there are servers running apache on windoz... Or how do you explain 60% apache? Most of companies I know do not buy servers by hp or ibm, and therefore fall out of your statistics... Regards Leon > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Yan Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2005 00:01 > An: Struts Users Mailing List > Betreff: [OT]Linux server market share... > > > Since linux has clearly more then 50% of the server market > Linux has never had more than 30% of the server market > http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P5013_0_6_0_C > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
