RE: [OT] Survey - Tell me what you think about Struts.
I addressed the "stuffing up of any useful CVS functionality" by using Jalopy source code formatter. http://jalopy.sourceforge.net. The key is for someone to specify the source code formatting rules, usually the defaults are close enough for most. Jalopy provides "export" functionality, so all you have to do is export the settings and distribute the export file to all of your developers. Run Jalopy on the files before you commit them to CVS and your problem is resolved. Brian Barnett -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 2:28 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Survey - Tell me what you think about Struts. On 01/05/05 13:13 Simon Chappell wrote: >>What is it that bugs you the most about development with Struts? > > Trying to work with the struts-config.xml without a dedicated editor. > I have a small, three actions, project that I'm tinkering with and I > figured that it was small enough that I didn't need to worry and I > could just edit struts-config.xml using a text editor. Ouch. Dedicated editors are a bane for me. The fact that they automatically format the whole file according to their xml whitespace, indenting and new line rules means that every line can change when a 2nd developer edits the file, which really stuffs up any useful CVS functionality. My biggest issue with struts is the large number of obtuse servlet exceptions or plain empty pages that newbies can cause by doing something wrong. Linked to that is the large amount of definitions in xml where the correctness is uncheckable until runtime. One silly typo and I have to compile, deploy, restart and navigate into the app to check it works. Perhaps there's some junit testing I should be doing to check it all in one click, but I haven't worked it out yet. Adam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, Please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Survey - Tell me what you think about Struts.
On 01/05/05 13:13 Simon Chappell wrote: What is it that bugs you the most about development with Struts? Trying to work with the struts-config.xml without a dedicated editor. I have a small, three actions, project that I'm tinkering with and I figured that it was small enough that I didn't need to worry and I could just edit struts-config.xml using a text editor. Ouch. Dedicated editors are a bane for me. The fact that they automatically format the whole file according to their xml whitespace, indenting and new line rules means that every line can change when a 2nd developer edits the file, which really stuffs up any useful CVS functionality. My biggest issue with struts is the large number of obtuse servlet exceptions or plain empty pages that newbies can cause by doing something wrong. Linked to that is the large amount of definitions in xml where the correctness is uncheckable until runtime. One silly typo and I have to compile, deploy, restart and navigate into the app to check it works. Perhaps there's some junit testing I should be doing to check it all in one click, but I haven't worked it out yet. Adam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Survey - Tell me what you think about Struts.
James, Here's a couple: > What is it that bugs you the most about development with Struts? Trying to work with the struts-config.xml without a dedicated editor. I have a small, three actions, project that I'm tinkering with and I figured that it was small enough that I didn't need to worry and I could just edit struts-config.xml using a text editor. Ouch. Also, it's good that Struts is so configurable, but with everything in one file it gets unworkable sooner rather than later. Also, be careful to keep your business logic out of your actions and keep your servlet context out of your business logic. This is not really Strut's fault, but it's still a good warning for newbies. > On the plus side, if you have a success story you are dying to tell. I'd > love to hear about it. I'm sure people are fed up of me bragging on the project I did at Lands' End, so I won't say too much, except that Struts rocks and is suitable for large projects and is gracefully handling some very close to real-time kind of response times. Simon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
