Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-11 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Wednesday 11 March 2009 01:00:14 Mohan Radhakrishnan wrote:
> newton.dave wrote:
> > pascal.gehr...@freenet.de wrote:
> >> So please don't say that dojo-support is deprecated. This is wrong. Dojo
> >> just has moved!!
> >
> > Dojo is most certainly deprecated: deprecated means that support still
> > exists, but may, or will, stop being supported at some point in the
> > future.
> >
> > Dave
>
> Somehow I have missed that announcement. What does it actually mean ?

Mostly it means that we are _not_ planning on re-writing to support Dojo X 
(where X > 0.4)

> What are the implications of this for projects that have to be in
> production for a long time ?

If your app is in production, then I would assume that you've QE'd it 
sufficiently to make it there. There are no time-bombs that will cause your 
app to fail because you are using a deprecated feature. There are plenty of 
apps in the wild currently using Struts 1.2 (and we even hear of 1.1 
periodically)

> Are you supporting JQuery in the future ?

Javascript and its frameworks tend to move at a different pace than the java 
world. One of the recurring themes in Java is backward compatibility. This 
means that sometimes things move slower, to make sure that all angles are 
considered. 

I've started and received significant contributions to a JQuery plugin. JQuery 
is a better fit for us than Dojo was because it is slim, well-tested, and 
seems to stay mostly API compatible. 

There are a few design decisions being made differently with this plugin. 
Mostly, rather than providing a complete abstraction from Javascript, the goal 
will be to provide some helpful tags, but expose as much as possible. Rather 
than trying to fit everything into the tags, we want users to embrace and know 
JQuery.

> I know I should be expecting only voluntary support from a open-source
> project. Will the developers who are still working on DOJO support in
> Struts tags suddenly stop working ? Has the bug fixing stopped ?

I can say that you won't be getting any new features. Also, if progress of the 
core library is hindered by supporting Dojo, it is likely we'll let the Dojo 
plugin go. 

If you have a significant interest in the Dojo tags, feel free to pull down 
the source and make changes or contributions. A significant part of deciding 
to deprecate the plugin is that the original developers find it difficult to 
support. More than one person has attempted to upgrade it to Dojo 1.x and we 
often find it requires a complete re-write. Rather than do that, we've decided 
to go with JQuery as it has become very popular and very easy to extend.

-Wes

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Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-11 Thread Lukasz Lenart
2009/3/11 Mohan Radhakrishnan :
> Are you supporting JQuery in the future ?

There is work-in-progress on jquery-plugin

> I know I should be expecting only voluntary support from a open-source
> project. Will the developers who are still working on DOJO support in Struts
> tags suddenly stop working ? Has the bug fixing stopped ?

As I know no, bugs regarding Dojo still will be solved.


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Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-10 Thread Mohan Radhakrishnan


newton.dave wrote:
> 
> pascal.gehr...@freenet.de wrote:
>> So please don't say that dojo-support is deprecated. This is wrong. Dojo 
>> just has moved!!
> 
> Dojo is most certainly deprecated: deprecated means that support still 
> exists, but may, or will, stop being supported at some point in the
> future.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 

Somehow I have missed that announcement. What does it actually mean ?
What are the implications of this for projects that have to be in production
for a long time ?
Are you supporting JQuery in the future ?
I know I should be expecting only voluntary support from a open-source
project. Will the developers who are still working on DOJO support in Struts
tags suddenly stop working ? Has the bug fixing stopped ?



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Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-10 Thread Dave Newton

pascal.gehr...@freenet.de wrote:
So please don't say that dojo-support is deprecated. This is wrong. Dojo 
just has moved!!


Dojo is most certainly deprecated: deprecated means that support still 
exists, but may, or will, stop being supported at some point in the future.


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Re: Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-10 Thread Lukasz Lenart
2009/3/10  :
> Support for dojo was not deprecated!! It was bundled to a plugin and is
> called struts2-dojo-plugin-2.1.6.jar.

It was deprecated, there is no plans to upgrade Dojo to latest
version, no plans to add new Dojo futures and so on... In such case
support for Dojo in Struts2 was deprecated. And code was moved to
plugin to not bundle deprecated code with new Struts2 version. There
still will be some bug fixing.

If you plan to use it anyway, you will be on your own.


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Re: Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-10 Thread pascal . gehring
Support for dojo was not deprecated!! It was bundled to a plugin and is 
called struts2-dojo-plugin-2.1.6.jar.

You can use this tags with:


<%@ taglib prefix="sx" uri="/struts-dojo-tags"%>

and then use the tags with the prefix "sx"!

This tags render an element on the frontend depending on which tag you use. 
During rendering the page, needed dojo files are loaded and parsed.

So please don't say that dojo-support is deprecated. This is wrong. Dojo 
just has moved!!

Greeting

Pascal

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> 2009/3/10 fr Rouxel :
> > and when struts 2 will integrate dojo 1.0?
> 
> Support for Dojo was deprecated, some work is going on to integrate
> Struts2 with jQuery
> 
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Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-10 Thread Lukasz Lenart
2009/3/10 fr Rouxel :
> and when struts 2 will integrate dojo 1.0?

Support for Dojo was deprecated, some work is going on to integrate
Struts2 with jQuery


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Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-10 Thread fr Rouxel

and when struts 2 will integrate dojo 1.0?


Struts Two wrote:
> 
> 
> I am using dojo 1.2.3 with struts 2. Just copy dojo library to your
> workspace and then you are set. However, you can not use struts dojo tag
> lib with it. In other words, you can not use theme="ajax", and you need to
> code your own javascripts to work with widgets or containers.
> 
> I think it is worth it as this offers you a lot of flexibility.
> 
> --- On Tue, 3/10/09, fr Rouxel  wrote:
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>> From: fr Rouxel 
>> Subject: struts2 and dojo
>> To: user@struts.apache.org
>> Received: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 2:44 PM
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> how can I use dojo 0.9 or dojo 1.0 with struts2.
>> I think struts 2 uses dojo 0.4 ?
>> 
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Re: struts2 and dojo

2009-03-10 Thread Struts Two

I am using dojo 1.2.3 with struts 2. Just copy dojo library to your workspace 
and then you are set. However, you can not use struts dojo tag
lib with it. In other words, you can not use theme="ajax", and you need to code 
your own javascripts to work with widgets or containers.

I think it is worth it as this offers you a lot of flexibility.

--- On Tue, 3/10/09, fr Rouxel  wrote:

> From: fr Rouxel 
> Subject: struts2 and dojo
> To: user@struts.apache.org
> Received: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 2:44 PM
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> how can I use dojo 0.9 or dojo 1.0 with struts2.
> I think struts 2 uses dojo 0.4 ?
> 
> thanks
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