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Sadly, I have kids so I either have no time for video games or can¹t get access to the gear. My past time is daydreaming about having a past time. As for testing, and documentation these tasks are as valid as any others, but again the problem from my perspective, and I don¹t mean that in a negative way, is finding which tasks need to be done. I have so much trouble navigating through the dev management part of the site. I guess what I was trying to say is that if the outstanding items could be broken down in manageable tasks, I¹d find it much less intimidating to take them on. Z. I would say the biggest help we can get right now is on the documentation and get help testing releases. One thing I have always seems lacking in the struts community, is support from users to help testing releases *before* they are actually released. As for coordinating effort, I am not sure it would work (besides the usual..hey I am working on this cool X thing.. email in dev@), I think that working as volunteers doesn't fit well with commitment because we also have other priorities, you know, like playing video games and stuff :) musachy On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Zoran Avtarovskizo...@sparecreative.com wrote: I have to agree. Our touch with the JSF Oracle was both painful and fruitless and lead us to truly appreciate how bad things could be. Having said that, I think Martin has raised some points about how S2 can be improved and I think S2 is at a stage where there needs to be some general discussion on where all interested parties (devs and users) think the framework should be heading and where there are deficiencies. I for one think, that with S2¹s improved plugin architecture, there is a huge amount of scope in what can be achieved. We need a few key people to guide the process. I know my biggest fear is over committing and not having the time to deliver. If there was a centralised coordinator who could organise a second tier of developers, for example, who can help on a smaller scale then I believe more of the niche development could be achieved. Z. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Andrey Rogovstrut...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods makes us transition to JSF. I think many, many people have crossed that bridge and came back in rush after a while. musachy
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Thank you Martin, Sooner or later we start considering programming as business. It's critical to develop new products or new versions with parameters that would be faster, more quality and less expensive. I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods makes us transition to JSF. I think that big companies are destined to make this step to increase the customer base and to be able to offer high quality services. I liked ADF very much, primarily for its visual development environment, quantity of objects, code generation and quality of applications. Today I'm spending extra time to transition to JSF+ADF ASAP. -Original Message- From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:01 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors support for Toplink support for EJB3.0 the struts plugin-extension is for Struts1 core development and UML diagramming editor so if you want to use JDev IDE you'll only see support for Struts and not Struts2 good support for JSF-faces ..the JSF chair is a Sun Senior Fellow and since Sun was just purchased by Oracle this describes incorporating Struts1 extension http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/tips/mills/struts_diagram.htm l what is your impression of ADF? Martin __ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. From: strut...@gmail.com To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:59:25 +0300 Martin, What do you think about Oracle ADF ? -Original Message- From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:42 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors Raible rated Struts as poor support support in JSF is based on implementing container: e.g. glassfish users group or tomcat users group.. usually all questions are answered in TC but not so with GF Struts is Front Controller based ..basically one event/one request JSF is Page Controller n events are parsed from one Request In Struts navigation is tied to Action in JSF navigation is tied to Page http://websphere.sys-con.com/node/46516 ASP.NET is specific to Microsoft platforms which means 75% of the installed servers cannot run it Martin Gainty __ Jogi és Bizalmassági kinyilatkoztatás/Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Ez az üzenet bizalmas. Ha nem ön az akinek szánva volt, akkor kérjük, hogy jelentse azt nekünk vissza. Semmiféle továbbítása vagy másolatának készítése nem megengedett. Ez az üzenet csak ismeret cserét szolgál és semmiféle jogi alkalmazhatósága sincs. Mivel az electronikus üzenetek könnyen megváltoztathatóak, ezért minket semmi felelöség nem terhelhet ezen üzenet tartalma miatt. Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:31:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Struts vs Other competitors From: musa...@gmail.com To: user@struts.apache.org dig around Matt Raible's blog/presentations, he has plenty of stuff
RE: Struts vs Other competitors
first started using struts in 02 and have been a strong advocate of Struts implementations since I believe the incorporation of Ajax enabled Dojo controls and interceptor call stack from freemarker pushed usability of Struts ahead of JSF in those areas unfortunately Struts RAD tools are not as well developed as JSF so teaching Struts to new college grads who use only IDEs is not so easy..also the addressing of bug assignments and what gets accomplished has devolved since Craig and Tad left..incorporation of IOC technologies such as Spring gravitates to Spring accomodates Struts instead of the other way around Oracle/Sun JDeveloper IDE seem to be gaining marketshare on Eclipse.. combined with easy WAR/EAR deploy to either Weblogic or Glassfish the details of a j2ee ejb-configuration and incorporating connection-pools and Persistence architectures are easily handled by user-friendly UI gracefully which populate deployment descriptors In Academia Struts seems to have the lead but measuring actual business revenue JSF seems to edge iut Struts as managers prefer a Oracle or Sun backed product support is another matter as the the 2 JSF support avenues i know of are tomcat-users-list or glassfish-users-list where the expertise is more on tc container configurations, tweaking perm-gen, using asadmin instead of how do i get a faces control to receive JSON formatted response back to my div tag JSF's component based event handlers works well for folks coming from .NET but i wonder about the overhead what do others think of jsf? Martin Gainty __ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. From: strut...@gmail.com To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:42:06 +0300 Thank you Martin, Sooner or later we start considering programming as business. It's critical to develop new products or new versions with parameters that would be faster, more quality and less expensive. I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods makes us transition to JSF. I think that big companies are destined to make this step to increase the customer base and to be able to offer high quality services. I liked ADF very much, primarily for its visual development environment, quantity of objects, code generation and quality of applications. Today I'm spending extra time to transition to JSF+ADF ASAP. -Original Message- From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:01 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors support for Toplink support for EJB3.0 the struts plugin-extension is for Struts1 core development and UML diagramming editor so if you want to use JDev IDE you'll only see support for Struts and not Struts2 good support for JSF-faces ..the JSF chair is a Sun Senior Fellow and since Sun was just purchased by Oracle this describes incorporating Struts1 extension http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/tips/mills/struts_diagram.htm l what is your impression of ADF? Martin __ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Andrey Rogovstrut...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods makes us transition to JSF. I think many, many people have crossed that bridge and came back in rush after a while. musachy -- Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone? Pink Floyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
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The phrase OH GOD KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE! has been heard exclaimed in relation to JSF on more than one occassion. -- Frank W. Zammetti Author of Practical Ext JS Projects with Gears and Practical Dojo Projects and Practical DWR 2 Projects and Practical JavaScript, DOM Scripting and Ajax Projects and Practical Ajax Projects with Java Technology (For info: apress.com/book/search?searchterm=zammettiact=search) All you could possibly want is here: zammetti.com On Mon, July 27, 2009 12:07 pm, Musachy Barroso wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Andrey Rogovstrut...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods makes us transition to JSF. I think many, many people have crossed that bridge and came back in rush after a while. musachy -- Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone? Pink Floyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
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I have to agree. Our touch with the JSF Oracle was both painful and fruitless and lead us to truly appreciate how bad things could be. Having said that, I think Martin has raised some points about how S2 can be improved and I think S2 is at a stage where there needs to be some general discussion on where all interested parties (devs and users) think the framework should be heading and where there are deficiencies. I for one think, that with S2¹s improved plugin architecture, there is a huge amount of scope in what can be achieved. We need a few key people to guide the process. I know my biggest fear is over committing and not having the time to deliver. If there was a centralised coordinator who could organise a second tier of developers, for example, who can help on a smaller scale then I believe more of the niche development could be achieved. Z. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Andrey Rogovstrut...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods makes us transition to JSF. I think many, many people have crossed that bridge and came back in rush after a while. musachy
Re: Struts vs Other competitors
I would say the biggest help we can get right now is on the documentation and get help testing releases. One thing I have always seems lacking in the struts community, is support from users to help testing releases *before* they are actually released. As for coordinating effort, I am not sure it would work (besides the usual..hey I am working on this cool X thing.. email in dev@), I think that working as volunteers doesn't fit well with commitment because we also have other priorities, you know, like playing video games and stuff :) musachy On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Zoran Avtarovskizo...@sparecreative.com wrote: I have to agree. Our touch with the JSF Oracle was both painful and fruitless and lead us to truly appreciate how bad things could be. Having said that, I think Martin has raised some points about how S2 can be improved and I think S2 is at a stage where there needs to be some general discussion on where all interested parties (devs and users) think the framework should be heading and where there are deficiencies. I for one think, that with S2¹s improved plugin architecture, there is a huge amount of scope in what can be achieved. We need a few key people to guide the process. I know my biggest fear is over committing and not having the time to deliver. If there was a centralised coordinator who could organise a second tier of developers, for example, who can help on a smaller scale then I believe more of the niche development could be achieved. Z. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Andrey Rogovstrut...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods makes us transition to JSF. I think many, many people have crossed that bridge and came back in rush after a while. musachy -- Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone? Pink Floyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
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dig around Matt Raible's blog/presentations, he has plenty of stuff related to that. musachy On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Ricardo Ramosbattery.in.your@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Can you guys point me to some literature debating Struts 1 vs. Struts 2 vs. Asp.NET vs. JSF vs. etc..? The project on which I'm working on currently uses Struts 1 (+ Spring and Hibernate). Although I don't foresee a migration happening for the following years, it would be very interesting to make an analysis of all the state-of-art options. For this to happen, I really needed to find and read some high-authority text to provide me the base for this analysis. Any suggestions? Best regards, RR -- Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone? Pink Floyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
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Raible rated Struts as poor support support in JSF is based on implementing container: e.g. glassfish users group or tomcat users group.. usually all questions are answered in TC but not so with GF Struts is Front Controller based ..basically one event/one request JSF is Page Controller n events are parsed from one Request In Struts navigation is tied to Action in JSF navigation is tied to Page http://websphere.sys-con.com/node/46516 ASP.NET is specific to Microsoft platforms which means 75% of the installed servers cannot run it Martin Gainty __ Jogi és Bizalmassági kinyilatkoztatás/Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Ez az üzenet bizalmas. Ha nem ön az akinek szánva volt, akkor kérjük, hogy jelentse azt nekünk vissza. Semmiféle továbbítása vagy másolatának készítése nem megengedett. Ez az üzenet csak ismeret cserét szolgál és semmiféle jogi alkalmazhatósága sincs. Mivel az electronikus üzenetek könnyen megváltoztathatóak, ezért minket semmi felelöség nem terhelhet ezen üzenet tartalma miatt. Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:31:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Struts vs Other competitors From: musa...@gmail.com To: user@struts.apache.org dig around Matt Raible's blog/presentations, he has plenty of stuff related to that. musachy On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Ricardo Ramosbattery.in.your@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Can you guys point me to some literature debating Struts 1 vs. Struts 2 vs. Asp.NET vs. JSF vs. etc..? The project on which I'm working on currently uses Struts 1 (+ Spring and Hibernate). Although I don't foresee a migration happening for the following years, it would be very interesting to make an analysis of all the state-of-art options. For this to happen, I really needed to find and read some high-authority text to provide me the base for this analysis. Any suggestions? Best regards, RR -- Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone? Pink Floyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009
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Martin, What do you think about Oracle ADF ? -Original Message- From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:42 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors Raible rated Struts as poor support support in JSF is based on implementing container: e.g. glassfish users group or tomcat users group.. usually all questions are answered in TC but not so with GF Struts is Front Controller based ..basically one event/one request JSF is Page Controller n events are parsed from one Request In Struts navigation is tied to Action in JSF navigation is tied to Page http://websphere.sys-con.com/node/46516 ASP.NET is specific to Microsoft platforms which means 75% of the installed servers cannot run it Martin Gainty __ Jogi és Bizalmassági kinyilatkoztatás/Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Ez az üzenet bizalmas. Ha nem ön az akinek szánva volt, akkor kérjük, hogy jelentse azt nekünk vissza. Semmiféle továbbítása vagy másolatának készítése nem megengedett. Ez az üzenet csak ismeret cserét szolgál és semmiféle jogi alkalmazhatósága sincs. Mivel az electronikus üzenetek könnyen megváltoztathatóak, ezért minket semmi felelöség nem terhelhet ezen üzenet tartalma miatt. Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:31:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Struts vs Other competitors From: musa...@gmail.com To: user@struts.apache.org dig around Matt Raible's blog/presentations, he has plenty of stuff related to that. musachy On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Ricardo Ramosbattery.in.your@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Can you guys point me to some literature debating Struts 1 vs. Struts 2 vs. Asp.NET vs. JSF vs. etc..? The project on which I'm working on currently uses Struts 1 (+ Spring and Hibernate). Although I don't foresee a migration happening for the following years, it would be very interesting to make an analysis of all the state-of-art options. For this to happen, I really needed to find and read some high-authority text to provide me the base for this analysis. Any suggestions? Best regards, RR -- Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone? Pink Floyd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org _ Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
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support for Toplink support for EJB3.0 the struts plugin-extension is for Struts1 core development and UML diagramming editor so if you want to use JDev IDE you'll only see support for Struts and not Struts2 good support for JSF-faces ..the JSF chair is a Sun Senior Fellow and since Sun was just purchased by Oracle this describes incorporating Struts1 extension http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/tips/mills/struts_diagram.html what is your impression of ADF? Martin __ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. From: strut...@gmail.com To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:59:25 +0300 Martin, What do you think about Oracle ADF ? -Original Message- From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:42 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts vs Other competitors Raible rated Struts as poor support support in JSF is based on implementing container: e.g. glassfish users group or tomcat users group.. usually all questions are answered in TC but not so with GF Struts is Front Controller based ..basically one event/one request JSF is Page Controller n events are parsed from one Request In Struts navigation is tied to Action in JSF navigation is tied to Page http://websphere.sys-con.com/node/46516 ASP.NET is specific to Microsoft platforms which means 75% of the installed servers cannot run it Martin Gainty __ Jogi és Bizalmassági kinyilatkoztatás/Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Ez az üzenet bizalmas. Ha nem ön az akinek szánva volt, akkor kérjük, hogy jelentse azt nekünk vissza. Semmiféle továbbítása vagy másolatának készítése nem megengedett. Ez az üzenet csak ismeret cserét szolgál és semmiféle jogi alkalmazhatósága sincs. Mivel az electronikus üzenetek könnyen megváltoztathatóak, ezért minket semmi felelöség nem terhelhet ezen üzenet tartalma miatt. Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:31:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Struts vs Other competitors From: musa...@gmail.com To: user@struts.apache.org dig around Matt Raible's blog/presentations, he has plenty of stuff related to that. musachy On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Ricardo Ramosbattery.in.your@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Can you guys point me to some literature debating Struts 1 vs. Struts 2 vs. Asp.NET vs. JSF vs. etc..? The project on which I'm working on currently uses Struts 1 (+ Spring and Hibernate). Although I don't foresee a migration happening for the following years, it would be very interesting to make an analysis of all the state-of-art options. For this to happen, I really needed to find and read some high-authority text to provide me the base for this analysis. Any suggestions? Best regards, RR -- Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone? Pink Floyd
Struts vs Other competitors
Hi! Can you guys point me to some literature debating Struts 1 vs. Struts 2 vs. Asp.NET vs. JSF vs. etc..? The project on which I'm working on currently uses Struts 1 (+ Spring and Hibernate). Although I don't foresee a migration happening for the following years, it would be very interesting to make an analysis of all the state-of-art options. For this to happen, I really needed to find and read some high-authority text to provide me the base for this analysis. Any suggestions? Best regards, RR
