[OT]Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Mark, Threats are self-perceived. And name calling behind a keyboard is quite the brave act. I've no issue with objective criticism of any technology. I do tire of inane and repetitive assertions of opinions based as fact. I prefer to code grounded upon something other than faith-based perceptions. And if your efforts are intended to be humorous, trust me you current career choice was a wise one. Carlos On Jun 30, 2005, at 7:30 AM, Mark Galbreath wrote: Carlos, this sounds like a threat. That is REALLY intolerable, u obtuse little shmuck. On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0700, Carlos Duque wrote: } Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the } amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed } from any work for the Department of Elections. ** ** This email and any file transmitted with it may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you received this email in error please notify the DBM Service Desk by forwarding this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email has been scanned by networkMaryland Antivirus Service for the presence of computer viruses. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Actually, I changed the email address so I could continue this scintilating conversation away from the office from my laptop. Nice try at a good dig, though. Try to rise above mediocrity. Cheers! Mark On 6/30/05, Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I noticed Mark that you have changed your email address from your > work one to a more "personal" one. No doubt in view of the comments > made about your current position and how well you must be reflecting > on your present employer. > > Still any future prospective employers can have the joy of reading > your delightful missives via the wonder that is Google. > > As the saying goes; What goes around, comes around. > > All the best. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
I noticed Mark that you have changed your email address from your work one to a more "personal" one. No doubt in view of the comments made about your current position and how well you must be reflecting on your present employer. Still any future prospective employers can have the joy of reading your delightful missives via the wonder that is Google. As the saying goes; What goes around, comes around. All the best. Christopher Marsh-Bourdon www.marsh-bourdon.com On 30 Jun 2005, at 19:16, Mark Galbreath wrote: wow...what a bunch of fascists! Did you used to work as a forum guide on AOL? Do you know what a filter is? Can you spell d-e-l-e-t-e? Try taking your finger out of your ass and pressing the button. On 6/30/05, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: Pretty much all of Mark Galbreath's posts to this mailing list are IMO either rude, obnoxious or irrelevant. Its obvious that he has no interest in Struts or contributing constructively to this community and his only purpose is to disrupt. Below I include a selection of the rubbish he has posted - I find this unacceptable and propose that we remove/bar him from the struts lists. You're kidding, right? Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
wow...what a bunch of fascists! Did you used to work as a forum guide on AOL? Do you know what a filter is? Can you spell d-e-l-e-t-e? Try taking your finger out of your ass and pressing the button. On 6/30/05, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Niall Pemberton wrote: > > >Pretty much all of Mark Galbreath's posts to this mailing list are IMO > >either rude, obnoxious or irrelevant. Its obvious that he has no interest in > >Struts or contributing constructively to this community and his only purpose > >is to disrupt. Below I include a selection of the rubbish he has posted - I > >find this unacceptable and propose that we remove/bar him from the struts > >lists. > > > > > You're kidding, right? > > Dave > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Niall Pemberton wrote: Pretty much all of Mark Galbreath's posts to this mailing list are IMO either rude, obnoxious or irrelevant. Its obvious that he has no interest in Struts or contributing constructively to this community and his only purpose is to disrupt. Below I include a selection of the rubbish he has posted - I find this unacceptable and propose that we remove/bar him from the struts lists. You're kidding, right? Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Well, IMO, the funny part of them is that 50% are accurate and valid. So, do we now ban people whose opinions do not match ours because they are "disruptive"? Great way to build up the community Niall - ban independent thought. Larry On 6/30/05, Brandon Goodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i find this thread massively humorous. Can someone collect more of > marks quotes. I was crying with laughter while i read them :) > > Brandon > > On 6/30/05, Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Carlos, this sounds like a threat. That is REALLY intolerable, u obtuse > > little shmuck. > > > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0700, Carlos Duque wrote: > > } Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the > > } amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed > > } from any work for the Department of Elections. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This email and any file transmitted with it may be confidential and is > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is > > addressed. If you received this email in error please notify the DBM > > Service Desk by forwarding this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > This email has been scanned by networkMaryland Antivirus Service for the > > presence of computer viruses. > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
i find this thread massively humorous. Can someone collect more of marks quotes. I was crying with laughter while i read them :) Brandon On 6/30/05, Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carlos, this sounds like a threat. That is REALLY intolerable, u obtuse > little shmuck. > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0700, Carlos Duque wrote: > } Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the > } amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed > } from any work for the Department of Elections. > > > > > > > This email and any file transmitted with it may be confidential and is > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is > addressed. If you received this email in error please notify the DBM Service > Desk by forwarding this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > This email has been scanned by networkMaryland Antivirus Service for the > presence of computer viruses. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Carlos, this sounds like a threat. That is REALLY intolerable, u obtuse little shmuck. On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0700, Carlos Duque wrote: } Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the } amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed } from any work for the Department of Elections. This email and any file transmitted with it may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you received this email in error please notify the DBM Service Desk by forwarding this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email has been scanned by networkMaryland Antivirus Service for the presence of computer viruses. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0700, Carlos Duque wrote: } Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the } amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed } from any work for the Department of Elections. It certainly seems ill-advised to use a work-related email address for non-work activities, but there is no guarantee that his workplace has any policy on what he is allowed to use his email address for, nor is there any reason to believe that he is billing his employer for the time he spends posting. } A troll is a troll is a troll. Trolls spam. Span is odious in any form. You seem to have a nonstandard definition of spam there. Spam, in general, is unsolicited commercial email. Trolls are rarely trying to sell anything. There is also some question as to whether Mark is a troll. Sure, he says obnoxious things, but some of what he says is at least thought-provoking. Furthermore, the posts that attempt to correct his wild statements are often edifying. } This long time lurker, and beneficiary of the discussions, says: Stop the } spam. I'm going to go with the slippery slope and futility argument here, and say "suck it up." It's poor policy to start banning people, and it's ultimately futile since email addresses are easy to come by. Beyond that, in any online community there will be annoyances; that's what the pretty little delete button is for. In fact, if your email program is clever, you can filter out everything he writes and never see it in the first place. If it's especially clever, it can filter out all replies to anything he's ever written. } Carlos --Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed from any work for the Department of Elections. A troll is a troll is a troll. Trolls spam. Span is odious in any form. This long time lurker, and beneficiary of the discussions, says: Stop the spam. Carlos At 07:08 PM 6/29/2005, Niall Pemberton wrote: Pretty much all of Mark Galbreath's posts to this mailing list are IMO either rude, obnoxious or irrelevant. Its obvious that he has no interest in Struts or contributing constructively to this community and his only purpose is to disrupt. Below I include a selection of the rubbish he has posted - I find this unacceptable and propose that we remove/bar him from the struts lists. Niall http://struts.apache.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/user%40struts.apache.org/ - Original Message - From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" user@struts.apache.org * I just asked one of our analysts about this and she said, "Don't be silly, it's ALL about the TOOL!" When I asked her what she meant, exactly, she replied, "The bigger the tool, the more room for error." "And that's a GOOD thing?" I asked astounded. She assured me that the best programmers she ever dated had the biggest tools. * Us "old" guys still know a quiche-eater like you when we see one. If you can't debug with Lint, get the hell off the keyboard. *I have noticed over the years that those who are the most adamant about the virtues of IDEs are the worst programmers...and think emacs is a kid's meal from McDonalds. * Craig? Is that old fart still around? I thought he was deeply involved in JSF now. * Does it spell-check for you, too? No wonder you need an IDE * I see the morons around this list are as gullible to my posts as ever * Sun's Creator Studio rulez the inexpensive Java IDE world; JetBrain's IDEA rulez the $300+ IDEs. Eclipse isn't worth a shit. But REAL programmers prefer ed or vi. * Aside from the fact that Validator is a kluge, why ru developing for an obsolete browser? * Yes - use .NET or JSF; Struts is dead. * I have "no doubt" my boss is looking for a friggin' H-1B Indian faggot to replace me for 1/2 the rate. And I'm leaving for home in a few, so I'll be back on #funkycodemonkey in about a half an hour. Rick: did you send those nekid pics of your wife yet? James: when ru going to port struts to a Lisp framework? * I know you've missed me! When I signed off the list a couple of years ago (wow! that long???) I was doing an R&D PHP/MySQL/Linux gig with the Dept of State; for the past year I've been building C#.NET/SQL Server/IIS apps for the local county fire and rescue dept. Now, I'm at the Maryland State Board of Erec..., er, Elections doing system and application upgrades on a Python/PHP/phpWiki/PostgreSQL-Oracle/Linux portal (www.elections.state.md.us - horrendous, isn't it?). Covertly, I'm sticking Mono and Java frameworks in the rebuild, and since I haven't used Struts since 1.0, thought I'd lurk around and see what's going on. * Your sure did: C#.NET makes stuff like this soo easy! Struts is dead. * That would be the "Friggin' Ignorant Newbie Encyclopaedia?" * Your root problem is using Validator in the first place. (1) It is a bogus design from the start, and (2) it never has worked as advertised * huh? Me thinks you better be reading the J2EE spec first * Validator is crap...and always has been. If you look in the archive, you will see more complaints about Validator working over the past 3 years and any other 2 subjects combined. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a private email address and is explicitly and expressly not intended for addition to or use in any mass distribution list without the author's prior and express written consent. Absent the specified consent, please remove this email address from any such list. Copyright (C) 2004 Cariz
Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Actually, IMNSHO, by holding this thread we are simply feeding the little troll. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance EdgeTech, Inc. http://www.edgetechservices.net/ 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: "Niall Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us Pretty much all of Mark Galbreath's posts to this mailing list are IMO either rude, obnoxious or irrelevant. Its obvious that he has no interest in Struts or contributing constructively to this community and his only purpose is to disrupt. Below I include a selection of the rubbish he has posted - I find this unacceptable and propose that we remove/bar him from the struts lists. Niall http://struts.apache.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/user%40struts.apache.org/ - Original Message - From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" user@struts.apache.org * I just asked one of our analysts about this and she said, "Don't be silly, it's ALL about the TOOL!" When I asked her what she meant, exactly, she replied, "The bigger the tool, the more room for error." "And that's a GOOD thing?" I asked astounded. She assured me that the best programmers she ever dated had the biggest tools. * Us "old" guys still know a quiche-eater like you when we see one. If you can't debug with Lint, get the hell off the keyboard. *I have noticed over the years that those who are the most adamant about the virtues of IDEs are the worst programmers...and think emacs is a kid's meal from McDonalds. * Craig? Is that old fart still around? I thought he was deeply involved in JSF now. * Does it spell-check for you, too? No wonder you need an IDE * I see the morons around this list are as gullible to my posts as ever * Sun's Creator Studio rulez the inexpensive Java IDE world; JetBrain's IDEA rulez the $300+ IDEs. Eclipse isn't worth a shit. But REAL programmers prefer ed or vi. * Aside from the fact that Validator is a kluge, why ru developing for an obsolete browser? * Yes - use .NET or JSF; Struts is dead. * I have "no doubt" my boss is looking for a friggin' H-1B Indian faggot to replace me for 1/2 the rate. And I'm leaving for home in a few, so I'll be back on #funkycodemonkey in about a half an hour. Rick: did you send those nekid pics of your wife yet? James: when ru going to port struts to a Lisp framework? * I know you've missed me! When I signed off the list a couple of years ago (wow! that long???) I was doing an R&D PHP/MySQL/Linux gig with the Dept of State; for the past year I've been building C#.NET/SQL Server/IIS apps for the local county fire and rescue dept. Now, I'm at the Maryland State Board of Erec..., er, Elections doing system and application upgrades on a Python/PHP/phpWiki/PostgreSQL-Oracle/Linux portal (www.elections.state.md.us - horrendous, isn't it?). Covertly, I'm sticking Mono and Java frameworks in the rebuild, and since I haven't used Struts since 1.0, thought I'd lurk around and see what's going on. * Your sure did: C#.NET makes stuff like this soo easy! Struts is dead. * That would be the "Friggin' Ignorant Newbie Encyclopaedia?" * Your root problem is using Validator in the first place. (1) It is a bogus design from the start, and (2) it never has worked as advertised * huh? Me thinks you better be reading the J2EE spec first * Validator is crap...and always has been. If you look in the archive, you will see more complaints about Validator working over the past 3 years and any other 2 subjects combined. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Niall, you'll get no debate from me that his posts are exactly as you describe them. I think the quotes you provide illustrate it perfectly well (and I myself replied to that comment about Indians a few days ago because it offended me, and I'm about the hardest guy to offend on the planet!). But... I would be against removing him from the list because I believe it sets a dangerous precedent. You know, the slippery slope and all... it would be too easy in the future to ban others for lesser offenses (and no matter how everyone says that would never happen, that's what everyone ALWAYS says when sch things are done for the first time). The only situation I can think of where I'd be OK with someone being removed is if they are actually spamming the list regularly. While he is annoying, obnoxious and inappropriate, I don't believe it rises to the level of spam. Besides that, you know as well as I do that banning a particular eMail address is all but useless if someone is intent on continually annoying the community like this. I doubt anyone wants to play cop and keep banning each new address such a person would go and sign up with. Just my opinion though. :) Frank Niall Pemberton wrote: Pretty much all of Mark Galbreath's posts to this mailing list are IMO either rude, obnoxious or irrelevant. Its obvious that he has no interest in Struts or contributing constructively to this community and his only purpose is to disrupt. Below I include a selection of the rubbish he has posted - I find this unacceptable and propose that we remove/bar him from the struts lists. Niall http://struts.apache.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/user%40struts.apache.org/ - Original Message - From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" user@struts.apache.org * I just asked one of our analysts about this and she said, "Don't be silly, it's ALL about the TOOL!" When I asked her what she meant, exactly, she replied, "The bigger the tool, the more room for error." "And that's a GOOD thing?" I asked astounded. She assured me that the best programmers she ever dated had the biggest tools. * Us "old" guys still know a quiche-eater like you when we see one. If you can't debug with Lint, get the hell off the keyboard. *I have noticed over the years that those who are the most adamant about the virtues of IDEs are the worst programmers...and think emacs is a kid's meal from McDonalds. * Craig? Is that old fart still around? I thought he was deeply involved in JSF now. * Does it spell-check for you, too? No wonder you need an IDE * I see the morons around this list are as gullible to my posts as ever * Sun's Creator Studio rulez the inexpensive Java IDE world; JetBrain's IDEA rulez the $300+ IDEs. Eclipse isn't worth a shit. But REAL programmers prefer ed or vi. * Aside from the fact that Validator is a kluge, why ru developing for an obsolete browser? * Yes - use .NET or JSF; Struts is dead. * I have "no doubt" my boss is looking for a friggin' H-1B Indian faggot to replace me for 1/2 the rate. And I'm leaving for home in a few, so I'll be back on #funkycodemonkey in about a half an hour. Rick: did you send those nekid pics of your wife yet? James: when ru going to port struts to a Lisp framework? * I know you've missed me! When I signed off the list a couple of years ago (wow! that long???) I was doing an R&D PHP/MySQL/Linux gig with the Dept of State; for the past year I've been building C#.NET/SQL Server/IIS apps for the local county fire and rescue dept. Now, I'm at the Maryland State Board of Erec..., er, Elections doing system and application upgrades on a Python/PHP/phpWiki/PostgreSQL-Oracle/Linux portal (www.elections.state.md.us - horrendous, isn't it?). Covertly, I'm sticking Mono and Java frameworks in the rebuild, and since I haven't used Struts since 1.0, thought I'd lurk around and see what's going on. * Your sure did: C#.NET makes stuff like this soo easy! Struts is dead. * That would be the "Friggin' Ignorant Newbie Encyclopaedia?" * Your root problem is using Validator in the first place. (1) It is a bogus design from the start, and (2) it never has worked as advertised * huh? Me thinks you better be reading the J2EE spec first * Validator is crap...and always has been. If you look in the archive, you will see more complaints about Validator working over the past 3 years and any other 2 subjects combined. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us
Pretty much all of Mark Galbreath's posts to this mailing list are IMO either rude, obnoxious or irrelevant. Its obvious that he has no interest in Struts or contributing constructively to this community and his only purpose is to disrupt. Below I include a selection of the rubbish he has posted - I find this unacceptable and propose that we remove/bar him from the struts lists. Niall http://struts.apache.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/user%40struts.apache.org/ - Original Message - From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" user@struts.apache.org * I just asked one of our analysts about this and she said, "Don't be silly, it's ALL about the TOOL!" When I asked her what she meant, exactly, she replied, "The bigger the tool, the more room for error." "And that's a GOOD thing?" I asked astounded. She assured me that the best programmers she ever dated had the biggest tools. * Us "old" guys still know a quiche-eater like you when we see one. If you can't debug with Lint, get the hell off the keyboard. *I have noticed over the years that those who are the most adamant about the virtues of IDEs are the worst programmers...and think emacs is a kid's meal from McDonalds. * Craig? Is that old fart still around? I thought he was deeply involved in JSF now. * Does it spell-check for you, too? No wonder you need an IDE * I see the morons around this list are as gullible to my posts as ever * Sun's Creator Studio rulez the inexpensive Java IDE world; JetBrain's IDEA rulez the $300+ IDEs. Eclipse isn't worth a shit. But REAL programmers prefer ed or vi. * Aside from the fact that Validator is a kluge, why ru developing for an obsolete browser? * Yes - use .NET or JSF; Struts is dead. * I have "no doubt" my boss is looking for a friggin' H-1B Indian faggot to replace me for 1/2 the rate. And I'm leaving for home in a few, so I'll be back on #funkycodemonkey in about a half an hour. Rick: did you send those nekid pics of your wife yet? James: when ru going to port struts to a Lisp framework? * I know you've missed me! When I signed off the list a couple of years ago (wow! that long???) I was doing an R&D PHP/MySQL/Linux gig with the Dept of State; for the past year I've been building C#.NET/SQL Server/IIS apps for the local county fire and rescue dept. Now, I'm at the Maryland State Board of Erec..., er, Elections doing system and application upgrades on a Python/PHP/phpWiki/PostgreSQL-Oracle/Linux portal (www.elections.state.md.us - horrendous, isn't it?). Covertly, I'm sticking Mono and Java frameworks in the rebuild, and since I haven't used Struts since 1.0, thought I'd lurk around and see what's going on. * Your sure did: C#.NET makes stuff like this soo easy! Struts is dead. * That would be the "Friggin' Ignorant Newbie Encyclopaedia?" * Your root problem is using Validator in the first place. (1) It is a bogus design from the start, and (2) it never has worked as advertised * huh? Me thinks you better be reading the J2EE spec first * Validator is crap...and always has been. If you look in the archive, you will see more complaints about Validator working over the past 3 years and any other 2 subjects combined. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
