RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Sean Broeder 
I think my preferences lean toward the more traditional.  I like options 13
and 4g.  I don’t really care for the all lower case print, despite it
seeming to have support from others.  It seems too informal or
unprofessional to me.



Nice effort getting these together.



Thanks,
Sean



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson 
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain ; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit ; Gunnar Tapper 
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen  wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one s

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Sandhya Sundaresan 
+1 for 13  AND 4g  (whichever looks good on slides and website finally. )



Thank you , Ken  for going through all these iterations !



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson 
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain ; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit ; Gunnar Tapper 
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen  wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to
read about it?



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit  wrote:

It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as
compared

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Hans Zeller 
8 and 4g are my favorites.

Hans

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <
sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> +1 for 13  AND 4g  (whichever looks good on slides and website finally. )
>
>
>
> Thank you , Ken  for going through all these iterations !
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
>
>
>
> Venkat
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Cc:* Rohit Jain ; Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> It seems we might need multiple votes:
>
> -  One color or multiple colors?
>
> -  Thin font or thick font?
>
> -  One font or two fonts?
>
> -  Apache or not…
>
>
>
> What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J
>
> -clr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apac

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Rohit 


+1 for 13
Rohit

 Original message 
From: Ken Holt  
Date: 02/13/2016  6:49 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal 

Hi
All,

 

A new set of Trafodion
logo options are attached, taking account of much of the input that I received.

 

One of these is a
clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for your consideration and
hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two for a run-off.)

 

By the way, all logos use
Google fonts, including the earlier front runner option 4 where I found a 
comparable google font to use, now named option 4g.  

 

Cheers, Ken

 
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:








Thanks Gunnar,
 
I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
I think we also think about whale before?
 
The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and real
J  
 
And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can draw 
a baby dragon?
 
And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my 
favorite
J
 
My 2 cents.

 
Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me how 
powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
 kind of design.
 
Thanks,
Ming
 
发件人: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]


发送时间: 2016年2月13日
 9:43

收件人: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

主题: Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
 

Trying an attachment...


 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:



Hi, Gunnar,
 
Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I saw 
QiFan once
 has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people cannot access 
Google drive .
 
Thanks,
Ming
 
发件人:
 Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]


发送时间: 2016年2月13日
 4:31

收件人:
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

主题: Re: Logo Proposal


 

Hi,

 


Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose the 
following draft as a candidate: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc

 


I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for 
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the 
gray hue
 (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's better done 
in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google Fonts: Telex 
Regular.


 


As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and
 I'm sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.


 


Thanks,


 


Gunnar


 


 


 


 




 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson  
wrote:


We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and ecosystem 
denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion fits into the 
puzzle
 ;-) .

 


I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be 
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the US 
and at
 the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our traffic 
comes from.


 


Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?


 


-Carol P.










---


Email:    carol.pearson...@gmail.com



Twitter:  @CarolP222



---




 



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy 
 wrote:



Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website, 
presentation
 slides and any brochures if you will.
Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
 
Venkat
 


From: Christophe
 LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]


Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM

To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Rohit Jain ; Gunnar Tapper 

Subject: RE: Logo Proposal




 
It seems we might need multiple votes:
- 
One color or multiple colors?
- 
Thin font or thick font?
- 
One font or two fonts?
- 
Apache or not…
 
What was Selva saying about engineers and votes?
J

-clr
 
 


From: Amanda
 Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]


Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM

To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Rohit ; Gunnar Tapper 

Subject: Re: Logo Proposal


 

-1 all same color. 


 


I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to remove 
Apache  But I still like it the way it is 


 


Sent from my iPhone




On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen  wrote:




But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to read 
about it? 


 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit  wrote:



It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as compared to 
those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet.  I feel that it adds
 quite a bit of v

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Wei-Shiun Tsai 
+1 for 8

+1 for 13



Weishiun



*From:* Rohit [mailto:rohit.j...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:37 PM
*To:* Ken Holt ; user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 for 13



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Ken Holt 
Date: 02/13/2016 6:49 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson 
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain ; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit ; Gunnar Tapper 
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen  wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to
read about it?



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit  w

答复: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Lin, Hai (Henry) 
+1 for 13. Also look forward to a WHALE.☺

Henry


发件人: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
发送时间: 2016年2月14日 8:50
收件人: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

Hi All,

A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of the 
input that I received.

One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for your 
consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two for a 
run-off.)

By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner 
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option 4g.

Cheers, Ken


On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
mailto:ming@esgyn.cn>> wrote:
Thanks Gunnar,

I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
I think we also think about whale before?

The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and real ☺

And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can draw 
a baby dragon?

And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my 
favorite ☺

My 2 cents.

Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me how 
powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind of 
design.

Thanks,
Ming

发件人: Gunnar Tapper 
[mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
发送时间: 2016年2月13日 9:43
收件人: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: 答复: Logo Proposal

Trying an attachment...

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
mailto:ming@esgyn.cn>> wrote:
Hi, Gunnar,

Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I saw 
QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people cannot 
access Google drive .

Thanks,
Ming

发件人: Gunnar Tapper 
[mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
发送时间: 2016年2月13日 4:31
收件人: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: Logo Proposal

Hi,

Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose the 
following draft as a candidate: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc

I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for 
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the 
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's 
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google 
Fonts: Telex Regular.

As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure 
it'll meet the other criteria, too.

Thanks,

Gunnar





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson 
mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and ecosystem 
denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion fits into the 
puzzle ;-) .

I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be 
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the US 
and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our 
traffic comes from.

Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?

-Carol P.

---
Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
Twitter:  @CarolP222
---

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy 
mailto:venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com>> wrote:
Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are serious.
Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website, 
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.

Venkat

From: Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
To: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Cc: Rohit Jain mailto:rohit.j...@esgyn.com>>; Gunnar 
Tapper mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com>>
Subject: RE: Logo Proposal

It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…

What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? ☺
-clr


From: Amanda Moran 
[mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
To: 
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Cc: Rohit mailto:rohit.j...@esgyn.com>>; Gunnar Tapper 
mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Logo Proposal

-1 all same color.

I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to remove 
Apache  But I still like it the way it is

S

Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Qifan Chen 
+1 for #4 for a balanced look and stable feel.



On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Lin, Hai (Henry)  wrote:

> +1 for 13. Also look forward to a WHALE.J
>
>
>
> Henry
>
>
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年2月14日 8:50
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
>
>
>
> Venkat
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Cc:* Rohit Jain ; Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> It seems we might need multiple votes:
>
> -  One color or multiple colors?
>
> -  Thin font or thick font?
>
> -  One font or two fonts?
>
> -  Apache or not…
>
>
>
> What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J
>
> -clr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Cc:* Rohit ; Gunnar Tapper  >
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> -1 all same color.
>
>
>
> I still like option

RE: 答复: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Narendra Goyal 
+1 for 4g

+1 for 13



*From:* Qifan Chen [mailto:qifan.c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 6:59 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 for #4 for a balanced look and stable feel.







On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Lin, Hai (Henry)  wrote:

+1 for 13. Also look forward to a WHALE.J



Henry





*发件人**:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月14日 8:50
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson 
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain ; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit ; Gunnar Tapper 
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen  wrote