RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-16 Thread D. Markt 
  Right, but your response and Dave’s are subtly different.  Dave implies that 
if there’s a strong consensus then maybe there’s no need for another vote.  
That’s not how the request for input was originally billed.  If that had been 
the case, perhaps Atanu wouldn’t have voted for option 12 and instead would 
have voted for 4G (for example).  That said, I applaud everyone’s hard work and 
passion on creating and picking the logo.  I’ve seen a company pick a logo 
several times over the years and someone has always objected to the final 
version as “ugly”, “stupid”, “unnecessary change’, etc.  It’s much like writing 
an installer or user interface—it’s a thankless job and all you’ll hear are 
those that think you did a terrible job. :)

 

--Dennis 

 

From: Carol Pearson [mailto:carol.pearson...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:28 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

 

Nope, not yet on the official vote - still making sure everyone who wants to 
offer an opinion from China (or anywhere else, but Chinese New Year was last 
week so they were not thinking about Trafodion Logos, I'm betting...) has a 
chance.




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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:24 PM, D. Markt <dmarkt7...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmarkt7...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I didn’t vote because I was waiting for the run-off/official vote.  If we’re in 
it, then we should tell all that’s the case and I’ll vote on the current 
options.

 

Thanks,

Dennis

 

From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com 
<mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:31 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org> 
Subject: RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

 

Hi,

 

Looks like consensus is crystallizing around options 13 and 4G. There were a 
couple of comments on 4G regarding font color. I don’t know if Ken wants to put 
up a revised 4G with a different color scheme.

 

I’m wondering if we should do an informal run-off between 13 and 4G (or a 
revised 4G if Ken so desires) and decide on that basis?

 

Dave

 

From: Kevin DeYager [mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:26 AM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org> 
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

 

+1 to 13

 

 

Here's what the current vote tally looks like.


Option



13

4G

8

12


Ken Holt



Tina Krug

1

1



Sean Broeder

1

1



Sandya Sundaresan

1

1



Hans Zeller

1

1



Rohit Jain

1



Wei-Shun Tsai

1

1



Hai Lin (Henry)

1



Qifan Chen

1



Ming Liu

1



Narendra Goyal

1

1




Atanu Mishra

1


Carol Pearson

1

1



Venkat Muthuswamy



Amanda Moran

1

1



Jian Jin (Seth)

1



Christophe LeRouzo

1

1



Prashanth Vasudev

1

1

 



Dave Birdsall

1



Kevin DeYager

1



14

10

3

1



 

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com 
<mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > wrote:

+1

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com 
<mailto:steve.var...@esgyn.com> > wrote:

If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that 
“Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of the 
dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the Apache logo.

 

--Steve

 

From: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com <mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com> ] 
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
<mailto:user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org> 
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

 

Hi All,

 

A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of the 
input that I received.

 

One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for your 
consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two for a 
run-off.)

 

By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner 
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option 4g.  

 

Cheers, Ken

 

 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <min

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-16 Thread Carol Pearson 
Nope, not yet on the official vote - still making sure everyone who wants
to offer an opinion from China (or anywhere else, but Chinese New Year was
last week so they were not thinking about Trafodion Logos, I'm betting...)
has a chance.

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Twitter:  @CarolP222
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:24 PM, D. Markt <dmarkt7...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn’t vote because I was waiting for the run-off/official vote.  If
> we’re in it, then we should tell all that’s the case and I’ll vote on the
> current options.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:31 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Looks like consensus is crystallizing around options 13 and 4G. There were
> a couple of comments on 4G regarding font color. I don’t know if Ken wants
> to put up a revised 4G with a different color scheme.
>
>
>
> I’m wondering if we should do an informal run-off between 13 and 4G (or a
> revised 4G if Ken so desires) and decide on that basis?
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* Kevin DeYager [mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:26 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> +1 to 13
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's what the current vote tally looks like.
>
> Option
>
> 13
>
> 4G
>
> 8
>
> 12
>
> Ken Holt
>
> Tina Krug
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Sean Broeder
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Sandya Sundaresan
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Hans Zeller
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Rohit Jain
>
> 1
>
> Wei-Shun Tsai
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Hai Lin (Henry)
>
> 1
>
> Qifan Chen
>
> 1
>
> Ming Liu
>
> 1
>
> Narendra Goyal
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Atanu Mishra
>
> 1
>
> Carol Pearson
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Venkat Muthuswamy
>
> Amanda Moran
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Jian Jin (Seth)
>
> 1
>
> Christophe LeRouzo
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
> Prashanth Vasudev
>
> 1
>
> 1
>
>
>
> Dave Birdsall
>
> 1
>
> Kevin DeYager
>
> 1
>
> 14
>
> 10
>
> 3
>
> 1
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
> “Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
> the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
> Apache logo.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-16 Thread Selva Govindarajan 
Did I cast an invalid vote J ? It is missing



   138

Selvaganesan Govindarajan  1 1



Selva



*From:* Kevin DeYager [mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:26 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 to 13





Here's what the current vote tally looks like.

Option

13

4G

8

12

Ken Holt

Tina Krug

1

1

Sean Broeder

1

1

Sandya Sundaresan

1

1

Hans Zeller

1

1

Rohit Jain

1

Wei-Shun Tsai

1

1

Hai Lin (Henry)

1

Qifan Chen

1

Ming Liu

1

Narendra Goyal

1

1

Atanu Mishra

1

Carol Pearson

1

1

Venkat Muthuswamy

Amanda Moran

1

1

Jian Jin (Seth)

1

Christophe LeRouzo

1

1

Prashanth Vasudev

1

1



Dave Birdsall

1

Kevin DeYager

1

14

10

3

1





On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1



On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
“Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
Apache logo.



--Steve



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presenta

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-16 Thread Dave Birdsall 
Hi,



Looks like consensus is crystallizing around options 13 and 4G. There were
a couple of comments on 4G regarding font color. I don’t know if Ken wants
to put up a revised 4G with a different color scheme.



I’m wondering if we should do an informal run-off between 13 and 4G (or a
revised 4G if Ken so desires) and decide on that basis?



Dave



*From:* Kevin DeYager [mailto:kevin.deya...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:26 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 to 13





Here's what the current vote tally looks like.

Option

13

4G

8

12

Ken Holt

Tina Krug

1

1

Sean Broeder

1

1

Sandya Sundaresan

1

1

Hans Zeller

1

1

Rohit Jain

1

Wei-Shun Tsai

1

1

Hai Lin (Henry)

1

Qifan Chen

1

Ming Liu

1

Narendra Goyal

1

1

Atanu Mishra

1

Carol Pearson

1

1

Venkat Muthuswamy

Amanda Moran

1

1

Jian Jin (Seth)

1

Christophe LeRouzo

1

1

Prashanth Vasudev

1

1



Dave Birdsall

1

Kevin DeYager

1

14

10

3

1





On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
wrote:

+1



On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
“Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
Apache logo.



--Steve



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Hav

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-16 Thread Gunnar Tapper 
+1

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Steve Varnau <steve.var...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> If “Apache” and “Trafodion” are different colors, it seems to me that
> “Trafodion” (in whatever case) should be the word that matches the color of
> the dragon. Otherwise it makes me think the dragon is trying to be the
> Apache logo.
>
>
>
> --Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-15 Thread Gunnar Tapper 
Hi Ming,

The dragon is there for the Welsh connection, which is why there was some
consensus while you folks where out on holidays.

If you want to suggest a whale, then I think you better provide the artwork
for consideration or it'll not happen. Hopefully, the dragon is OK enough
for us not to revisit the image but if you feel strong about it, then
that's the way to go.

Gunnar

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming)  wrote:

> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
>
>
>
> Venkat
>
>
>
> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Cc:* Rohit Jain ; Gunnar Tapper <
> tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> It seems we might need multiple votes:
>
> -  One color or multiple colors?
>
> -  Thin font or thick font?
>
> -  One font or two fonts?
>
> -  Apache or not…
>
>
>
> What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J
>
> -clr
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Cc:* Rohit ; Gunnar Tapper  >
> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> -1 all same color.
>
>
>
> I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
> remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen  wrote:
>
> But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to
> read about it?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM,

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-15 Thread Gunnar Tapper 
Ken: Can you make a variant of 13 with the same font as we use on the web
site; that is, Telex?

Thanks,

Gunnar

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:33 AM, Selva Govindarajan <
selva.govindara...@esgyn.com> wrote:

> +1 for 8 and 13.  Consider reducing the space between the fonts if
> possible in 8.
>
>
>
> Selva
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much
> of the input that I received.
>
>
>
> One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
> your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
> for a run-off.)
>
>
>
> By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
> option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
> 4g.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Gunnar,
>
>
>
> I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
>
> I think we also think about whale before?
>
>
>
> The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
> real J
>
>
>
> And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
> draw a baby dragon?
>
>
>
> And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
> favorite J
>
>
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to
> me how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
> kind of design.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Trying an attachment...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn>
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Gunnar,
>
>
>
> Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
> saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
> cannot access Google drive .
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ming
>
>
>
> *发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
> *发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
> *收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> *主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
> the following draft as a candidate:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc
>
>
>
> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
> Fonts: Telex Regular.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm
> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gunnar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <
> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
> fits into the puzzle ;-) .
>
>
>
> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
> traffic comes from.
>
>
>
> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?
>
>
>
> -Carol P.
>
>
> ---
>
> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com
>
> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>
> ---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:
>
> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
> serious.
>
> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the
> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will.
>
> Ce

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-15 Thread Selva Govindarajan 
+1 for 8 and 13.  Consider reducing the space between the fonts if possible
in 8.



Selva



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apa

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Wei-Shiun Tsai 
+1 for 8

+1 for 13



Weishiun



*From:* Rohit [mailto:rohit.j...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 3:37 PM
*To:* Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com>; user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



+1 for 13



Rohit



 Original message 
From: Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com>
Date: 02/13/2016 6:49 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove A

Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Rohit 


+1 for 13
Rohit

 Original message 
From: Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> 
Date: 02/13/2016  6:49 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org 
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal 

Hi
All,

 

A new set of Trafodion
logo options are attached, taking account of much of the input that I received.

 

One of these is a
clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for your consideration and
hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two for a run-off.)

 

By the way, all logos use
Google fonts, including the earlier front runner option 4 where I found a 
comparable google font to use, now named option 4g.  

 

Cheers, Ken

 
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:








Thanks Gunnar,
 
I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.
I think we also think about whale before?
 
The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and real
J  
 
And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can draw 
a baby dragon?
 
And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my 
favorite
J
 
My 2 cents.

 
Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me how 
powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this
 kind of design.
 
Thanks,
Ming
 
发件人: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]


发送时间: 2016年2月13日
 9:43

收件人: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

主题: Re: 答复: Logo Proposal
 

Trying an attachment...


 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:



Hi, Gunnar,
 
Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I saw 
QiFan once
 has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people cannot access 
Google drive .
 
Thanks,
Ming
 
发件人:
 Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]


发送时间: 2016年2月13日
 4:31

收件人:
user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

主题: Re: Logo Proposal


 

Hi,

 


Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose the 
following draft as a candidate: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc

 


I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for 
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the 
gray hue
 (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's better done 
in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google Fonts: Telex 
Regular.


 


As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and
 I'm sure it'll meet the other criteria, too.


 


Thanks,


 


Gunnar


 


 


 


 




 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and ecosystem 
denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion fits into the 
puzzle
 ;-) .

 


I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be 
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the US 
and at
 the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our traffic 
comes from.


 


Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?


 


-Carol P.










---


Email:    carol.pearson...@gmail.com



Twitter:  @CarolP222



---




 



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy 
<venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:



Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website, 
presentation
 slides and any brochures if you will.
Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.
 
Venkat
 


From: Christophe
 LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]


Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM

To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>

Subject: RE: Logo Proposal




 
It seems we might need multiple votes:
- 
One color or multiple colors?
- 
Thin font or thick font?
- 
One font or two fonts?
- 
Apache or not…
 
What was Selva saying about engineers and votes?
J

-clr
 
 


From: Amanda
 Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]


Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM

To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org

Cc: Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Logo Proposal


 

-1 all same color. 


 


I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to remove 
Apache  But I still like it the way it is 


 


Sent from my iPhone




On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:




But is it obvious that

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Sandhya Sundaresan 
+1 for 13  AND 4g  (whichever looks good on slides and website finally. )



Thank you , Ken  for going through all these iterations !



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to
remove Apache  But I still like it the way it is



Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote:

RE: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal

2016-02-14 Thread Sean Broeder 
I think my preferences lean toward the more traditional.  I like options 13
and 4g.  I don’t really care for the all lower case print, despite it
seeming to have support from others.  It seems too informal or
unprofessional to me.



Nice effort getting these together.



Thanks,
Sean



*From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:50 PM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: 答复: 答复: Logo Proposal



Hi All,



A new set of Trafodion logo options are attached, taking account of much of
the input that I received.



One of these is a clear winner for me personally, but I submit them for
your consideration and hope we can zero in on one of them. (Or perhaps two
for a run-off.)



By the way, all logos use Google fonts, including the earlier front runner
option 4 where I found a comparable google font to use, now named option
4g.



Cheers, Ken





On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Thanks Gunnar,



I can see it now. I like dragon very much, but hope it is not too popular.

I think we also think about whale before?



The meaning behind whale is: it is the biggest animal on the earth , and
real J



And Hadoop projects seem to use cute animals (Hive, Hadoop). Maybe we can
draw a baby dragon?



And most people like sky blue? I used to have black or golden dragon as my
favorite J



My 2 cents.



Overall, I like this logo, it is already good enough for me. It shows to me
how powerful Trafodion is. I know it is hard to get consensus for this kind
of design.



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 9:43
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: 答复: Logo Proposal



Trying an attachment...



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <ming@esgyn.cn> wrote:

Hi, Gunnar,



Is it possible to put the logo as attachment? If they are not too big. I
saw QiFan once has an attachment of a logo in one of his post. Some people
cannot access Google drive .



Thanks,

Ming



*发件人**:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com]
*发送时间**:* 2016年2月13日 4:31
*收件人**:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*主**题**:* Re: Logo Proposal



Hi,



Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose
the following draft as a candidate:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc



I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for
consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the
gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's
better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google
Fonts: Telex Regular.



As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure
it'll meet the other criteria, too.



Thanks,



Gunnar











On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and
ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion
fits into the puzzle ;-) .



I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be
honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the
US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our
traffic comes from.



Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday?



-Carol P.


---

Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com

Twitter:  @CarolP222

---



On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy <
venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote:

Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are
serious.

Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website,
presentation slides and any brochures if you will.

Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name.



Venkat



*From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <
tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal



It seems we might need multiple votes:

-  One color or multiple colors?

-  Thin font or thick font?

-  One font or two fonts?

-  Apache or not…



What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J

-clr





*From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com]
*Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM
*To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
*Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal



-1 all same color.



I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting t