I’d be willing to offer some of my spare time towards this effort. 

Jonathan Wong

> On Nov 18, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Jordan Zimmerman <jor...@jordanzimmerman.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> A fresh look at APIs is definitely in order. So, this would be a potential 
> ZK 4.x. 
> 
>> That said, we added things like rest in the past for similar reasons and it
>> never really took off... Would be a shame to see the same here.
> 
> ZK has had a lot more activity with recent committers. So, maybe this time 
> will be different? If at least one other person will sign up to work on it, 
> I'll shepherd it.
> 
> -JZ
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> There are quite a few benefits to using grpc imo. It's come up a few times
>> where I've been part of the discussion - ala we make it b/w compat it would
>> be a good move imo. Then the question becomes what else do we fix at the
>> same time? e.g. make version fields 64 bit rather than 32? etc... there are
>> a bunch of zk4 such jiras that could be addressed at the same time (and
>> likely in a b/w compat way - ie zk3)
>> 
>> That said, we added things like rest in the past for similar reasons and it
>> never really took off... Would be a shame to see the same here.
>> 
>> Patrick
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 6:48 AM Jordan Zimmerman <jor...@jordanzimmerman.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> That looks like great work. In order to address the issues, why not
>>> build on top of curator (https://curator.apache.org)?
>>> 
>>> (Note: I'm the main author of Curator). I'd definitely try to make
>>> something like Curator for gRPC. I'm not sure exactly what that means at
>>> this point. But, my main goal is to enable non-JVM clients. We have C,
>>> python and few others now but they always lag with changes and are hard to
>>> maintain.
>>> 
>>> -JZ
>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Jörn Franke <jornfra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That looks like great work. In order to address the issues, why not
>>> build on top of curator (https://curator.apache.org)?
>>>> 
>>>> I could support in case question rise with SASL, but I am not sure yet
>>> if I find the time to actively develop for this unfortunately
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 18.11.2019 um 15:25 schrieb Jordan Zimmerman <
>>> jor...@jordanzimmerman.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've written a proof of concept implementation of a ServerCnxnFactory
>>> that implements gRPC. The goal is to make it possible to easily write
>>> ZooKeeper clients in non-JVM languages. Using the proof of concept I was
>>> able to write a Golang client easily. What's the interest level of
>>> something like this? Let's discuss if it's worth pursuing. I'd be willing
>>> to move this from proof of concept to production but I'll need help (1 or 2
>>> co-developers).
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to try it, I've pushed the Golang client and some
>>> instructions here (let me know if you have any issues - I'm a go neophyte).
>>> Note: "zookeeper/test.go" is the interesting file:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/Randgalt/zkgrpc <
>>> https://github.com/Randgalt/zkgrpc>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's the proof of concept on the ZK server side (the interesting
>>> files are RpcServerCnxn.java, RpcServerCnxnFactory.java,
>>> RpcZooKeeperServer.java and zookeeper.proto):
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/compare/master...Randgalt:wip-grpc <
>>> https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/compare/master...Randgalt:wip-grpc>
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Issues:
>>>>> Writing a client, even with gRPC, will require some work. Sessions have
>>> to be maintained, watchers have to be maintained, etc.
>>>>> Currently, Jute is deeply embedded in ZooKeeper. The proof of concept
>>> has to emulate Jute byte buffers. Ideally, this will be abstracted so that
>>> only records could be used so that the gRPC connection doesn't have to keep
>>> marshalling/unmarshalling byte buffers
>>>>> I don't know enough about the gRPC client/server implementations to
>>> know if it will meet the needs of ZooKeeper. Anyone have experience here?
>>>>> I haven't completely thought through how much work it will take to
>>> write useful clients. As I've shown with the proof of concept simple ZK
>>> CRUD db operations work well. I need to spend time writing a recipe such as
>>> Leader Election to see how much work is required.
>>>>> I'm not sure how things like SASL and reconfig would work with gRPC
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Jordan
>>> 
>>> 
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