Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-21 Thread Clinton Begin
Nope, it just works.  Note the security post by Niels earlier.-- Remember, we understand this isn't ideal.  But it's better than public setters!Cheers,ClintonOn 9/19/06, 
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It'll raise a few eyebrows but I'll see what the chaps say.Is there any documentation anywhere on using private setters? Do I need toadd something to the result map entries, and will I need to fiddle with the
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I understand that you're using constructor injection and that they don'thave setters.What I'm suggesting is that you add private setters and a parameterlessconstructor.  It won't have any impact on the immutability of your class.
It's a bit of extra code, but not uncommon.  I know it's not ideal, but itwould work for the time being.Cheers,ClintonOn 9/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:The private setters is a nice addition, but not really helpful in oursituation because the fields actually don't have setters at all; the object
is filled in through the constructor call.I did pick up on some interesting conversations that you had with the theguy who wrote O/R Broker, which seems to have a nice pattern for dealingwith constructors and complex loading statements (like loading up a field
based on the contents of another field). Hopefully we'll see somethingsimilar in IBatis in the future.Thanks for your help ... :-)|-+--->| |   "Clinton Begin" |
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.Constructor injection is supported in the .NET version.  The two codebasesare somewhat similar, so we could always check on their approach to it.ClintonOn 9/18/06, Jeff Butler <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do it.  Itwould require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result sets.Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.
BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutabletransfer object pattern here:http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html
The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part, anda mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with iBATIS.But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while and everyone
(me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple JavaBeans withgetters AND setters.Jeff ButlerOn 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Mmm ... no that's not quite it.I have a set of VO classes that are immutable. This means that all the datais added at construction.|-+--->
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RE: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-21 Thread MCCORMICK, Paul



Ah that explains what I was doing 
wrong.


From: Clinton Begin 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006 
2:29 PMTo: user-java@ibatis.apache.orgSubject: Re: 
Parameterised constructors
No, you still need to write the setter, but make it private.  
Like this:
public class Foo {

  private String 
  foo;
   
  public String getFoo() {
      return foo;
  }
  private void setFoo(String foo) 
  {
      this.foo = foo;
  }
}
On 9/20/06, MCCORMICK, 
Paul < 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  How do private setters work?  Could I set the 'foo' property using 
  the result map below?  Is there anything I have to do to the jmv to allow 
  it access to the private field?
   
  
      
  
   
  public class Foo {
  
private String foo;
 
public String getFoo() {
    return foo;
}
  }
   
  Thanks,
  Paul
   
  
  
  From: Clinton Begin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 19 
  September 2006 3:23 AMTo: user-java@ibatis.apache.orgSubject: Re: 
  Parameterised constructors
  
  As a temporary alternative we do support private setters as of 
  2.2.0.  Constructor injection is supported in the .NET 
  version.  The two codebases are somewhat similar, so we could always 
  check on their approach to it. Clinton
  On 9/18/06, Jeff 
  Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  

I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do 
it.  It would require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result 
sets.  Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.
 
BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutable 
transfer object pattern here:
 
http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html
 
The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part, 
and a mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with 
iBATIS.  But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while 
and everyone (me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple 
JavaBeans with getters AND setters. 
 
Jeff Butler
 

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Mmm 
  ... no that's not quite it.I have a set of VO classes that are 
  immutable. This means that all the data is added at 
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I am not finding docs for it at the moment, 
either. I think that the ResultObjectFactoryTest unit test does what you 
want. Take a look, and see - if it is, please feel free to add a page to 
the WIKI (http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Home 
)on how to use it.LarryOn 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < 
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there!>> I vaguely remember reading that parameterised 
constructors were being > considered for Ibatis. Is this still 
planned for a future release, or has > the idea been 
dropped?>> I noticed that there was no mention of them in the 
documentation for the> latest beta, which is a bit of a shame (for me 
anyway; not sure how many > others would find them useful) 
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RE: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-20 Thread Niels Beekman








Concerning the jvm question: if you have a
security manager in place, you would need to have the AccessibleObject.ACCESS_PERMISSION
(“suppressAccessChecks”) permission.

 

Niels

 









From: MCCORMICK, Paul
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: donderdag 21 september 2006
5:00
To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org
Subject: RE: Parameterised
constructors



 

How do private
setters work?  Could I set the 'foo' property using the result map
below?  Is there anything I have to do to the jmv to allow it access to
the private field?

 



   




 

public class
Foo {



private String foo;

 

public String
getFoo() {

   
return foo;

}



}

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

 







From: Clinton
Begin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2006
3:23 AM
To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org
Subject: Re: Parameterised
constructors

As a temporary
alternative we do support private setters as of 2.2.0.  

Constructor injection is supported in the .NET version.  The two codebases
are somewhat similar, so we could always check on their approach to it. 

Clinton



On 9/18/06, Jeff
Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: 





I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do
it.  It would require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result sets. 
Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.





 





BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutable
transfer object pattern here:





 





http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html





 





The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part,
and a mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with
iBATIS.  But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while and
everyone (me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple
JavaBeans with getters AND setters. 





 





Jeff Butler






 





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Mmm ... no that's not quite it.

I have a set of VO classes that are immutable. This means that all the data 
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I am not finding docs for it at the moment, either. I think that
the 
ResultObjectFactoryTest unit test does what you want. Take a
look, and 
see - if it is, please feel free to add a page to the WIKI 
(http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Home
)
on how to use it.

Larry


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> Hi there!
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> I vaguely remember reading that parameterised constructors
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> I noticed that there was no mention of them in the
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Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-20 Thread Clinton Begin
No, you still need to write the setter, but make it private.  Like this:public class Foo {

  private String
  foo;
   
  public String getFoo()
  {
      return
  foo;
  }
private void setFoo(String foo)
  {
      this.foo = foo;
  }
}On 9/20/06, MCCORMICK, Paul <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




How do private setters work? 
Could I set the 'foo' property using the result map below?  Is there
anything I have to do to the jmv to allow it access to the private
field?
 

    

 
public class Foo {

  private String
  foo;
   
  public String getFoo()
  {
      return
  foo;
  }
}
 
Thanks,
Paul
 


From: Clinton Begin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2006
3:23 AMTo: user-java@ibatis.apache.orgSubject: Re:
Parameterised constructors
As a temporary alternative we do support private setters as of
2.2.0.  Constructor injection is supported in the .NET
version.  The two codebases are somewhat similar, so we could always check
on their approach to it. Clinton
On 9/18/06, Jeff
Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do
  it.  It would require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result
  sets.  Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.
   
  BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutable
  transfer object pattern here:
   
  http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html
   
  The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part,
  and a mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with
  iBATIS.  But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while
  and everyone (me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple
  JavaBeans with getters AND setters. 
   
  Jeff Butler
   
  
  On 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
< [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
  
  Mmm
... no that's not quite it.I have a set of VO classes that are
immutable. This means that all the data is added at
construction.|-+--->|
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  ResultObjectFactoryTest unit test does what you want. Take a look, and
  see - if it is, please feel free to add a page to the WIKI (http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Home
  )on how to use it.LarryOn 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <

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  constructors were being > considered for Ibatis. Is this still planned
  for a future release, or has > the idea been dropped?>> I
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  latest beta, which is a bit of a shame (for me anyway; not sure how many
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RE: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-20 Thread MCCORMICK, Paul



How do private setters work? 
Could I set the 'foo' property using the result map below?  Is there
anything I have to do to the jmv to allow it access to the private
field?
 

    

 
public class Foo {

  private String
  foo;
   
  public String getFoo()
  {
      return
  foo;
  }
}
 
Thanks,
Paul
 


From: Clinton Begin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2006
3:23 AMTo: user-java@ibatis.apache.orgSubject: Re:
Parameterised constructors
As a temporary alternative we do support private setters as of
2.2.0.  Constructor injection is supported in the .NET
version.  The two codebases are somewhat similar, so we could always check
on their approach to it. Clinton
On 9/18/06, Jeff
Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do
  it.  It would require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result
  sets.  Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.
   
  BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutable
  transfer object pattern here:
   
  http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html
   
  The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part,
  and a mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with
  iBATIS.  But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while
  and everyone (me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple
  JavaBeans with getters AND setters. 
   
  Jeff Butler
   
  
  On 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
  
  Mmm
... no that's not quite it.I have a set of VO classes that are
immutable. This means that all the data is added at
construction.|-+--->|
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  I am not
  finding docs for it at the moment, either. I think that the
  ResultObjectFactoryTest unit test does what you want. Take a look, and
  see - if it is, please feel free to add a page to the WIKI (http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Home
  )on how to use it.LarryOn 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Hi
  there!>> I vaguely remember reading that parameterised
  constructors were being > considered for Ibatis. Is this still planned
  for a future release, or has > the idea been dropped?>> I
  noticed that there was no mention of them in the documentation for the>
  latest beta, which is a bit of a shame (for me anyway; not sure how many
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Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-19 Thread Ray_Offiah
It'll raise a few eyebrows but I'll see what the chaps say.

Is there any documentation anywhere on using private setters? Do I need to
add something to the result map entries, and will I need to fiddle with the
JVM security manager?



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I understand that you're using constructor injection and that they don't
have setters.

What I'm suggesting is that you add private setters and a parameterless
constructor.  It won't have any impact on the immutability of your class.

It's a bit of extra code, but not uncommon.  I know it's not ideal, but it
would work for the time being.

Cheers,
Clinton


On 9/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The private setters is a nice addition, but not really helpful in our
situation because the fields actually don't have setters at all; the object
is filled in through the constructor call.

I did pick up on some interesting conversations that you had with the the
guy who wrote O/R Broker, which seems to have a nice pattern for dealing
with constructors and complex loading statements (like loading up a field
based on the contents of another field). Hopefully we'll see something
similar in IBatis in the future.

Thanks for your help ... :-)



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As a temporary alternative we do support private setters as of 2.2.0.

Constructor injection is supported in the .NET version.  The two codebases
are somewhat similar, so we could always check on their approach to it.

Clinton

On 9/18/06, Jeff Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do it.  It
would require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result sets.
Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.

BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutable
transfer object pattern here:

http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html

The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part, and
a mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with iBATIS.

But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while and everyone
(me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple JavaBeans with
getters AND setters.

Jeff Butler


On 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Mmm ... no that's not quite it.

I have a set of VO classes that are immutable. This means that all the data


is added at construction.



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Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-19 Thread Clinton Begin
I understand that you're using constructor injection and that they don't have setters.What I'm suggesting is that you add private setters and a parameterless constructor.  It won't have any impact on the immutability of your class.  
It's a bit of extra code, but not uncommon.  I know it's not ideal, but it would work for the time being.Cheers,ClintonOn 9/19/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The private setters is a nice addition, but not really helpful in oursituation because the fields actually don't have setters at all; the objectis filled in through the constructor call.I did pick up on some interesting conversations that you had with the the
guy who wrote O/R Broker, which seems to have a nice pattern for dealingwith constructors and complex loading statements (like loading up a fieldbased on the contents of another field). Hopefully we'll see something
similar in IBatis in the future.Thanks for your help ... :-)|-+--->| |   "Clinton Begin" || |   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As a temporary alternative we do support private setters as of 2.2.0.Constructor injection is supported in the .NET version.  The two codebasesare somewhat similar, so we could always check on their approach to it.
ClintonOn 9/18/06, Jeff Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do it.  Itwould require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result sets.
Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutabletransfer object pattern here:
http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.htmlThe basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part, anda mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with iBATIS.
But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while and everyone(me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple JavaBeans withgetters AND setters.Jeff ButlerOn 9/18/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Mmm ... no that's not quite it.I have a set of VO classes that are immutable. This means that all the data
is added at construction.|-+--->| |   "Larry Meadors" || |   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|| |   .org>   |
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I am not finding docs for it at the moment, either. I think that theResultObjectFactoryTest unit test does what you want. Take a look, andsee - if it is, please feel free to add a page to the WIKI
(http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Home )on how to use it.LarryOn 9/18/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Hi there!>> I vaguely remember reading that parameterised constructors were being
> considered for Ibatis. Is this still planned for a future release, or has> the idea been dropped?>> I noticed that there was no mention of them in the documentation for the> latest beta, which is a bit of a shame (for me anyway; not sure how many
> others would find them useful)>>>> ***

Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-19 Thread Ray_Offiah
The private setters is a nice addition, but not really helpful in our
situation because the fields actually don't have setters at all; the object
is filled in through the constructor call.

I did pick up on some interesting conversations that you had with the the
guy who wrote O/R Broker, which seems to have a nice pattern for dealing
with constructors and complex loading statements (like loading up a field
based on the contents of another field). Hopefully we'll see something
similar in IBatis in the future.

Thanks for your help ... :-)



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As a temporary alternative we do support private setters as of 2.2.0.

Constructor injection is supported in the .NET version.  The two codebases
are somewhat similar, so we could always check on their approach to it.

Clinton

On 9/18/06, Jeff Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do it.  It
would require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result sets.
Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.

BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutable
transfer object pattern here:

http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html

The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part, and
a mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with iBATIS.
But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while and everyone
(me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple JavaBeans with
getters AND setters.

Jeff Butler


On 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Mmm ... no that's not quite it.

I have a set of VO classes that are immutable. This means that all the data

is added at construction.



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I am not finding docs for it at the moment, either. I think that the
ResultObjectFactoryTest unit test does what you want. Take a look, and
see - if it is, please feel free to add a page to the WIKI
(http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Home )
on how to use it.

Larry


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> Hi there!
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> I vaguely remember reading that parameterised constructors were being
> considered for Ibatis. Is this still planned for a future release, or has

> the idea been dropped?
>
> I noticed that there was no mention of them in the documentation for the
> latest beta, which is a bit of a shame (for me anyway; not sure how many
> others would find them useful)
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Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-18 Thread Clinton Begin
As a temporary alternative we do support private setters as of 2.2.0.  Constructor injection is supported in the .NET version.  The two codebases are somewhat similar, so we could always check on their approach to it.
ClintonOn 9/18/06, Jeff Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do it.  It would require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result sets.  Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.
 
BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutable transfer object pattern here:
 
http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html
 
The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part, and a mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with iBATIS.  But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while and everyone (me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple JavaBeans with getters AND setters.

 
Jeff Butler
 
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Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-18 Thread Jeff Butler
I remember some folks asking about this, but no commitment to do it.  It would require quite a change to the way iBATIS processes result sets.  Translation: don't expect this anytime soon.
 
BTW, the Sun patterns web site has some information about an immutable transfer object pattern here:
 
http://java.sun.com/blueprints/patterns/TransferObject.html
 
The basic idea is that you create an interface for the immutable part, and a mutable static inner class for initializing.  This does work with iBATIS.  But one warning - we used this pattern on my team for a while and everyone (me included) HATED it.  So we eventually went to simple JavaBeans with getters AND setters.

 
Jeff Butler
 
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Mmm ... no that's not quite it.I have a set of VO classes that are immutable. This means that all the data 
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Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-18 Thread Ray_Offiah
Mmm ... no that's not quite it.

I have a set of VO classes that are immutable. This means that all the data
is added at construction.



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I am not finding docs for it at the moment, either. I think that the
ResultObjectFactoryTest unit test does what you want. Take a look, and
see - if it is, please feel free to add a page to the WIKI
(http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Home)
on how to use it.

Larry


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>
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> the idea been dropped?
>
> I noticed that there was no mention of them in the documentation for the
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Re: Parameterised constructors

2006-09-18 Thread Larry Meadors

I am not finding docs for it at the moment, either. I think that the
ResultObjectFactoryTest unit test does what you want. Take a look, and
see - if it is, please feel free to add a page to the WIKI
(http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/IBATIS/Home)
on how to use it.

Larry


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Hi there!

I vaguely remember reading that parameterised constructors were being
considered for Ibatis. Is this still planned for a future release, or has
the idea been dropped?

I noticed that there was no mention of them in the documentation for the
latest beta, which is a bit of a shame (for me anyway; not sure how many
others would find them useful)



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