Re: [uml-devel] [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco wrote: >> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just retried with >> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases I >> > > >> > detailed >> > > >> > before that end with error. >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY? >> > > >> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel. >> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere. >> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/ >> > > >> > >> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were downloaded >> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS this >> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be supported >> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed. >> >> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? This >> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that the >> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to >> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have done >> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need much >> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it. >> >> Everything that gets -stable updates. > > Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed right > now. > > "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and > still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and think > the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but gives > bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing > the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to > get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS > (pointing to > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are > these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, now > I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to solution, > to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope. > > The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows > this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be > updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users > can be sure their setup is good enough. > > I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and assumed > best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And > the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've > forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I > compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very > start. > > Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the > UML website, right? The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time. If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful. I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this. -- Thanks, //richard -- ___ User-mode-linux-devel mailing list User-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/user-mode-linux-devel
Re: [uml-devel] [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?
Please, at least mark the info as being OLD OLD OLD. 90% of it is unnecessary. -- ___ User-mode-linux-devel mailing list User-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/user-mode-linux-devel
Re: [uml-devel] [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Balaco Baco wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 16:55, Richard Weinberger wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco wrote: >> >> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just retried >> >> > > >> > with >> >> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases I >> >> > > >> > detailed >> >> > > >> > before that end with error. >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY? >> >> > > >> >> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel. >> >> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere. >> >> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/ >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were downloaded >> >> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS this >> >> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be supported >> >> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed. >> >> >> >> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? This >> >> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that the >> >> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to >> >> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have done >> >> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need much >> >> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it. >> >> >> >> Everything that gets -stable updates. >> > >> > Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed right >> > now. >> > >> > "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and >> > still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and think >> > the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but gives >> > bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing >> > the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to >> > get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS >> > (pointing to >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are >> > these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, now >> > I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to solution, >> > to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope. >> > >> > The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows >> > this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be >> > updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users >> > can be sure their setup is good enough. >> > >> > I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and assumed >> > best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And >> > the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've >> > forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I >> > compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very >> > start. >> > >> > Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the >> > UML website, right? >> >> The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time. >> If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful. >> >> I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this. >> > > Really?! I would never bet that it was that old. > > I can update it. And I also have a little bit of web design knowledge > and practices that may be eventually useful. On the other hand, I would > need directions and thumbs up to guarantee that the contents are kept > correct (which would be my main objetive when changing texts). I have > not programmed that much kernel code and "related or almost so" things, > although I have a solid C background - and this is something that UML > seems to have a broad contact surface, from the messages I have read > here. > > At most a month of medium site changes are good as expectations? > Although most of the time I can give a few hours per week, so that month > should not look too bad. > > What would be the process? If only with you directly, I guess we > continue to talk about it between us. Create a concept and share it. :-) -- Thanks, //richard -- ___ User-mode-linux-devel mailing list User-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/user-mode-linux-devel
Re: [uml-devel] [uml-user] Website is in need of many small changes and updates?
Am 31.10.2015 4:39 vorm. schrieb Balaco Baco : > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Balaco Baco wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 16:55, Richard Weinberger wrote: > > >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Balaco Baco wrote: > > >> >> > > >> > Really!? I wish I had read that somewhere. Well, just > > >> >> > > >> > retried with > > >> >> > > >> > another option that is there for me. It is one of the cases > > >> >> > > >> > I detailed > > >> >> > > >> > before that end with error. > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> Linux 2.6.24?! SRSLY? > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > If you want me to help, please use a recent/supported kernel. > > >> >> > > Ready-to-use root filesystems can be found everywhere. > > >> >> > > For example: http://fs.devloop.org.uk/ > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I'm not sure now, but the two Debian root fs I'm using were > > >> >> > downloaded > > >> >> > from the site you point here. Later I'll check their sums, and PS > > >> >> > this > > >> >> > in a next message. Kernels 2.6.* were recent and assumed to be > > >> >> > supported > > >> >> > in most places I could need - or so I assumed. > > >> >> > > >> >> > What is your definition of recent and your definition of supported? > > >> >> > This > > >> >> > may be useful for many other users of UML I guess. The fact that > > >> >> > the > > >> >> > kernels offered in the UML website didn't work, and then I tried to > > >> >> > compile from source should be pointed here. I don't think I have > > >> >> > done > > >> >> > something so weird or uncommon here - mainly because I don't need > > >> >> > much > > >> >> > as long as I have flexibility to execute it. > > >> >> > > >> >> Everything that gets -stable updates. > > >> > > > >> > Website: UML's, http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/, accessed > > >> > right > > >> > now. > > >> > > > >> > "Getting started" seemed like a good place for me a few weeks ago (and > > >> > still does, but...). And I think it will make many users feel and > > >> > think > > >> > the same way I did. Except that it gives us wrong directions - but > > >> > gives > > >> > bad directions for users that will surely follow them without knowing > > >> > the wrong details since they're expecting to see something working to > > >> > get more familiar with UML. "Download THIS ( pointing to > > >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-rc7.bz2) or THIS > > >> > (pointing to > > >> > http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/linux-2.6.24-x86_64.bz2 )". Are > > >> > these kernel versions familiar to you in the list? They are for me, > > >> > now > > >> > I just understood a few more details, and the possible path to > > >> > solution, > > >> > to execution without unexpected problems - or so I hope. > > >> > > > >> > The thread I started today, quickly skimmed in the above quotes, shows > > >> > this. The website needs to be fixed. And more than that, needs to be > > >> > updated more frequently (or so I must guess) or write about how users > > >> > can be sure their setup is good enough. > > >> > > > >> > I downloaded both suggested kernels, following the official (and > > >> > assumed > > >> > best, for that) instructions. Both did not work (and still don't). And > > >> > the one that worked back then is probably needing something I've > > >> > forgotten in these days or stopped to work today. But that one I > > >> > compiled from source - and now I need to do it again, from the very > > >> > start. > > >> > > > >> > Everything that gets stable updates... but this should not exclude the > > >> > UML website, right? > > >> > > >> The website is very old and from the pre-mainline time. > > >> If you volunteer to update and maintain it it would be wonderful. > > >> > > >> I'm not a web designer nor do I have the time for this. > > >> > > > > > > Really?! I would never bet that it was that old. > > > > > > I can update it. And I also have a little bit of web design knowledge > > > and practices that may be eventually useful. On the other hand, I would > > > need directions and thumbs up to guarantee that the contents are kept > > > correct (which would be my main objetive when changing texts). I have > > > not programmed that much kernel code and "related or almost so" things, > > > although I have a solid C background - and this is something that UML > > > seems to have a broad contact surface, from the messages I have read > > > here. > > > > > > At most a month of medium site changes are good as expectations? > > > Although most of the time I can give a few hours per week, so that month > > > should not look too bad. > > > > > > What would be the process? If only with you directly, I guess we > > > continue to talk about it between us. > > > > Create a concept and share it. :-) > > > > I do not have a final working step by step from zero until now. One is > giving compiling erro
