Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-20 Thread artnaseef
Ah, I see why the activemq.xml changes now.  Two ways to get out of the
activemq.xml:

* Just have the producers directly produce to the two versioned queues, or
* Use a camel route running outside of AMQ to move the messages (one nice
advantage over the existing solution is it takes the overhead of applying
the selection criteria outside of AMQ)




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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-19 Thread juanmanuel.romeraferrio
Yes for the moment I'm using this 


  

  




  

  



And each consumer is using each queue C1 -> Q1 and C2 -> Q2, and this is
working fine.

Thanks!




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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-19 Thread artnaseef
Not trying to ignore any possible issue here...

Is it feasible to use two different queues?  One for each version.

That may be the best way to go for many reasons.



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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-19 Thread juanmanuel.romeraferrio
I did a few test and this work when I have a lot of message of Version2 and
Version1.
And the first test I send 5000 messages of each versions, and the consumer
starting process normal, and when process 500 messages stop, and start to
process again when all the messages was in the queue.

In other test, this the consumer stop to process and not start again.

If I start the consumer 2, all the messages are processed.



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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-18 Thread Tim Bain
It sounds like it could be a bug, though it might not be.  Assuming you can
reproduce this in a test environment, you should try attaching a debugger
to the broker, setting breakpoints, and stepping through the relevant
code.  AbstractSubscription.matches() and Queue.doAcutalDispatch() seem
like good places to start with your breakpoints, though I haven't stepped
through this particular code before so I'm just guessing.

Also, does this happen when there are only a few messages in the queue?  Or
does it only happen when there are lots of Version 2 messages mixed in with
the Version 1 messages?  And does it fix itself when the Version2 consumer
comes back online, or are there still unprocessed messages when both
consumers are online?  I've got a vague memory that in earlier versions of
ActiveMQ, there was a limit to how many messages could be in the cursor to
be dispatched at any one time and that messages not in the cursor weren't
considered for dispatching (so only the first N messages in the queue could
be processed, and if all of them were Version 2 messages, they could block
any Version 1 messages from being blocked until the Version 1 consumer came
online and cleared some of them out).  I may be misremembering, and if not
there may have been changes in the behavior since those discussions, but if
this is still how the broker works, then it could explain messages being
blocked while the Version 2 consumer is offline but getting processed once
all consumers are back online.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, juanmanuel.romeraferrio <
juanmanuel.romerafer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm using version 5.10.0
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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-18 Thread juanmanuel.romeraferrio
I'm using version 5.10.0 



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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-18 Thread Tim Bain
It might be a problem with selectors, or with cursors, or maybe something
else.

What version of ActiveMQ are you using?  I remember seeing JIRAs against
pre-5.8.0 versions about cursors that allowed messages to get stuck, so if
you're using an older version, you might just need to upgrade.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:43 AM, juanmanuel.romeraferrio <
juanmanuel.romerafer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I know that my English is not good.
>
> Consumer with selector Version=1 - ON
> Consumer  with selector Version 2 - OFF
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> I sent message of Version 1, and Version 2.
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> The messages of Version 2 are storage in the queue this is OK, because the
> consumer is OFF.
> The messages of Version 1, some are consumed and other no and stay in the
> queue. This is a problem with selector, because I expected that all the
> messages of Version 1  are consumed, because this consumer is ON.
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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-18 Thread juanmanuel.romeraferrio
Sorry, I know that my English is not good.

Consumer with selector Version=1 - ON
Consumer  with selector Version 2 - OFF

I sent message of Version 1, and Version 2.

The messages of Version 2 are storage in the queue this is OK, because the
consumer is OFF.
The messages of Version 1, some are consumed and other no and stay in the
queue. This is a problem with selector, because I expected that all the
messages of Version 1  are consumed, because this consumer is ON.






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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-18 Thread Tim Bain
Also, which version of ActiveMQ are you using?
On Nov 18, 2014 5:41 AM, "juanmanuel.romeraferrio" <
juanmanuel.romerafer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No, this is OK. The problems is that when the consumer VERSION 2 is off and
> the consumer VERSION 2 is on, and I send messages of the 2 VERSION the
> messages of VERSION 1 stay in the queue and are not consumed by the
> consumer
> or sometimes are consumed a little part and the other stay in the queue.
> And I want that if the consumer is on, consume all the messages.
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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-18 Thread Tim Bain
Sorry, which consumer is off and which is on?  Your email said VERSION 2
for both, but I assume that's not what you meant.
On Nov 18, 2014 5:41 AM, "juanmanuel.romeraferrio" <
juanmanuel.romerafer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No, this is OK. The problems is that when the consumer VERSION 2 is off and
> the consumer VERSION 2 is on, and I send messages of the 2 VERSION the
> messages of VERSION 1 stay in the queue and are not consumed by the
> consumer
> or sometimes are consumed a little part and the other stay in the queue.
> And I want that if the consumer is on, consume all the messages.
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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-18 Thread juanmanuel.romeraferrio
No, this is OK. The problems is that when the consumer VERSION 2 is off and
the consumer VERSION 2 is on, and I send messages of the 2 VERSION the
messages of VERSION 1 stay in the queue and are not consumed by the consumer
or sometimes are consumed a little part and the other stay in the queue.
And I want that if the consumer is on, consume all the messages.



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Re: Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-17 Thread Tim Bain
So what do you want to happen when the Version2 consumer isn't connected?
Right now the Version2 messages stay available for the Version2 when it
reconnects; what do you want to happen instead?

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:00 PM, juanmanuel.romeraferrio <
juanmanuel.romerafer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm in a trouble in my system. I have a lot of clients that send message
> with differente VERSION and I have one consumer per version that recibe
> this
> message, I'm using message selector on a only queue to do that, but I found
> a problem when I sent for exmple message of 2 versions and I had only one
> consumer up, the message that are of the version of consumer up, are not
> consumed and still like pending.
>
> I found a link that describe that
> http://trenaman.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/message-selectors-and-activemq.html
>
> Then I saw the idea of Composite Destinations, this works, but this has a
> limitation. When I need add a new consumer I need change the activemq.xml
> of
> broker, and this mean stop and start the broker.
>
> What's is the best solution?
>
> Thanks,
> Juan Manuel
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Message Selector or Composite Destinations

2014-11-17 Thread juanmanuel.romeraferrio
Hi,

I'm in a trouble in my system. I have a lot of clients that send message
with differente VERSION and I have one consumer per version that recibe this
message, I'm using message selector on a only queue to do that, but I found
a problem when I sent for exmple message of 2 versions and I had only one
consumer up, the message that are of the version of consumer up, are not
consumed and still like pending.

I found a link that describe that
http://trenaman.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/message-selectors-and-activemq.html

Then I saw the idea of Composite Destinations, this works, but this has a
limitation. When I need add a new consumer I need change the activemq.xml of
broker, and this mean stop and start the broker.

What's is the best solution?

Thanks,
Juan Manuel



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