Re: Migration plan

2018-11-11 Thread Andrija Panic
Morning coffee makes wonders...

www.doubletake.com

Not sure if name changed lately or something (I have personally never used
it) but I know my colleagues used to replicate whole CloudStack VPC between
2 DCs, via S2S VPN, with perhaps different IP addressing scheme in second
DR...

Cheers


On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 04:42 kotipalli venkatesh <
venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi
>
> Will you please suggest 3rd party sync tools.
>
> Thanks,
> Venkatesh
>
> On Sun 11 Nov, 2018, 3:34 AM Andrija Panic 
> > ok, so this rules our any CloudStack way to migrate things... clear.
> >
> > If possible, you should probably look into XenMotion between 2
> > clusters/pools, in case there is good/fast IP connectivity here, that
> might
> > do the work, without downtime - at least for single VM.
> > In case you need to migrate whole environment at a time (dozens of VM)
> then
> > not sure if this is good strategy.
> >
> > Offline way, I assume you can just move images from one pool to another
> > (export / import) while VMs are stopped. This can be done with default
> > tools, or even some external migration tools (from other vendors)
> >
> > Other way is also from INSIDE the VMs - i.e. use block-level replication
> > tools, if you have some kind of VM-to-VM IP connectivity (i.e. site 2
> site
> > connections between source and destination VMs) - these kind of software
> > are made for DR purposes, and after initial sync of source to destination
> > VMs - you can just execute the switch-over of complete environments (I'm
> > trying to remember the specific tool that my colleagues used...but no
> luck
> > so far...)
> >
> > Anyway, make sure xs-tools are up to date (not sure about compatibility
> > between different versions xe-tools vs guest-tools, etc) - anyway, first
> > prepare/update the source VM and then migrate to new cluster.
> >
> > Other ways you could pull it out is also to stop VM(s), and then download
> > volumes from CloudStack (will generate download ULR) - then simply
> download
> > VM image (root or data disks) from this URL into new hosts/SR and use it
> to
> > start a brand new VM with existing disks. Or create snapshots, and then
> > download this snapshots to destination hosts/pool, etc...
> >
> > There are many ways to do it, depending on the needed scenario and
> allowed
> > downtime.
> >
> > Perhaps look into xcp-ng project (fork of XenServer) without all these
> > limitations that Citrix imposed lately...
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > Andrija
> >
> > On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 22:28, kotipalli venkatesh <
> > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrija,
> > >
> > > Saparate regions.
> > >
> > > Currently customer instances sitting on CloudStack. Now we are
> migrating
> > > instances to hypervisor i.e. xenserver 7.2.
> > >
> > > No more cloudstack. He having own hypervisors.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Venkatesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun 11 Nov, 2018, 2:39 AM Andrija Panic  > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Venkatesh,
> > > >
> > > > is this 2 separate regions / installations - i.e. not 2 zones inside
> > same
> > > > Region ?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 21:35, kotipalli venkatesh <
> > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > We are using cloudstack older version 4.3.1 and hypervisor is
> > xenserver
> > > > > 6.2.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, we are migrating VMs one Data enter to another Datcenter. In
> > > > > destination Datcenter hypervisor is xenserver 7.1. all VMs are
> > windows
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Andrija Panić
> >
>


Re: Migration plan

2018-11-11 Thread kotipalli venkatesh
Hi

Doubletake software license hug amount. Previously I have used  this one
for one of the customer.

Is any other softwares??

Thanks,
Venkatesh


On Sun 11 Nov, 2018, 3:41 PM Andrija Panic  Morning coffee makes wonders...
>
> www.doubletake.com
>
> Not sure if name changed lately or something (I have personally never used
> it) but I know my colleagues used to replicate whole CloudStack VPC between
> 2 DCs, via S2S VPN, with perhaps different IP addressing scheme in second
> DR...
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 04:42 kotipalli venkatesh <
> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Will you please suggest 3rd party sync tools.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Venkatesh
> >
> > On Sun 11 Nov, 2018, 3:34 AM Andrija Panic  wrote:
> >
> > > ok, so this rules our any CloudStack way to migrate things... clear.
> > >
> > > If possible, you should probably look into XenMotion between 2
> > > clusters/pools, in case there is good/fast IP connectivity here, that
> > might
> > > do the work, without downtime - at least for single VM.
> > > In case you need to migrate whole environment at a time (dozens of VM)
> > then
> > > not sure if this is good strategy.
> > >
> > > Offline way, I assume you can just move images from one pool to another
> > > (export / import) while VMs are stopped. This can be done with default
> > > tools, or even some external migration tools (from other vendors)
> > >
> > > Other way is also from INSIDE the VMs - i.e. use block-level
> replication
> > > tools, if you have some kind of VM-to-VM IP connectivity (i.e. site 2
> > site
> > > connections between source and destination VMs) - these kind of
> software
> > > are made for DR purposes, and after initial sync of source to
> destination
> > > VMs - you can just execute the switch-over of complete environments
> (I'm
> > > trying to remember the specific tool that my colleagues used...but no
> > luck
> > > so far...)
> > >
> > > Anyway, make sure xs-tools are up to date (not sure about compatibility
> > > between different versions xe-tools vs guest-tools, etc) - anyway,
> first
> > > prepare/update the source VM and then migrate to new cluster.
> > >
> > > Other ways you could pull it out is also to stop VM(s), and then
> download
> > > volumes from CloudStack (will generate download ULR) - then simply
> > download
> > > VM image (root or data disks) from this URL into new hosts/SR and use
> it
> > to
> > > start a brand new VM with existing disks. Or create snapshots, and then
> > > download this snapshots to destination hosts/pool, etc...
> > >
> > > There are many ways to do it, depending on the needed scenario and
> > allowed
> > > downtime.
> > >
> > > Perhaps look into xcp-ng project (fork of XenServer) without all these
> > > limitations that Citrix imposed lately...
> > >
> > > Hope this helps
> > > Andrija
> > >
> > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 22:28, kotipalli venkatesh <
> > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Andrija,
> > > >
> > > > Saparate regions.
> > > >
> > > > Currently customer instances sitting on CloudStack. Now we are
> > migrating
> > > > instances to hypervisor i.e. xenserver 7.2.
> > > >
> > > > No more cloudstack. He having own hypervisors.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Venkatesh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun 11 Nov, 2018, 2:39 AM Andrija Panic  > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Venkatesh,
> > > > >
> > > > > is this 2 separate regions / installations - i.e. not 2 zones
> inside
> > > same
> > > > > Region ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 21:35, kotipalli venkatesh <
> > > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are using cloudstack older version 4.3.1 and hypervisor is
> > > xenserver
> > > > > > 6.2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, we are migrating VMs one Data enter to another Datcenter. In
> > > > > > destination Datcenter hypervisor is xenserver 7.1. all VMs are
> > > windows
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Andrija Panić
> > >
> >
>


Re: Migration plan

2018-11-11 Thread Andrija Panic
No.

On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 12:36 kotipalli venkatesh <
venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi
>
> Doubletake software license hug amount. Previously I have used  this one
> for one of the customer.
>
> Is any other softwares??
>
> Thanks,
> Venkatesh
>
>
> On Sun 11 Nov, 2018, 3:41 PM Andrija Panic 
> > Morning coffee makes wonders...
> >
> > www.doubletake.com
> >
> > Not sure if name changed lately or something (I have personally never
> used
> > it) but I know my colleagues used to replicate whole CloudStack VPC
> between
> > 2 DCs, via S2S VPN, with perhaps different IP addressing scheme in second
> > DR...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 04:42 kotipalli venkatesh <
> > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Will you please suggest 3rd party sync tools.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Venkatesh
> > >
> > > On Sun 11 Nov, 2018, 3:34 AM Andrija Panic  > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ok, so this rules our any CloudStack way to migrate things... clear.
> > > >
> > > > If possible, you should probably look into XenMotion between 2
> > > > clusters/pools, in case there is good/fast IP connectivity here, that
> > > might
> > > > do the work, without downtime - at least for single VM.
> > > > In case you need to migrate whole environment at a time (dozens of
> VM)
> > > then
> > > > not sure if this is good strategy.
> > > >
> > > > Offline way, I assume you can just move images from one pool to
> another
> > > > (export / import) while VMs are stopped. This can be done with
> default
> > > > tools, or even some external migration tools (from other vendors)
> > > >
> > > > Other way is also from INSIDE the VMs - i.e. use block-level
> > replication
> > > > tools, if you have some kind of VM-to-VM IP connectivity (i.e. site 2
> > > site
> > > > connections between source and destination VMs) - these kind of
> > software
> > > > are made for DR purposes, and after initial sync of source to
> > destination
> > > > VMs - you can just execute the switch-over of complete environments
> > (I'm
> > > > trying to remember the specific tool that my colleagues used...but no
> > > luck
> > > > so far...)
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, make sure xs-tools are up to date (not sure about
> compatibility
> > > > between different versions xe-tools vs guest-tools, etc) - anyway,
> > first
> > > > prepare/update the source VM and then migrate to new cluster.
> > > >
> > > > Other ways you could pull it out is also to stop VM(s), and then
> > download
> > > > volumes from CloudStack (will generate download ULR) - then simply
> > > download
> > > > VM image (root or data disks) from this URL into new hosts/SR and use
> > it
> > > to
> > > > start a brand new VM with existing disks. Or create snapshots, and
> then
> > > > download this snapshots to destination hosts/pool, etc...
> > > >
> > > > There are many ways to do it, depending on the needed scenario and
> > > allowed
> > > > downtime.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps look into xcp-ng project (fork of XenServer) without all
> these
> > > > limitations that Citrix imposed lately...
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps
> > > > Andrija
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 22:28, kotipalli venkatesh <
> > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Andrija,
> > > > >
> > > > > Saparate regions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently customer instances sitting on CloudStack. Now we are
> > > migrating
> > > > > instances to hypervisor i.e. xenserver 7.2.
> > > > >
> > > > > No more cloudstack. He having own hypervisors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Venkatesh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun 11 Nov, 2018, 2:39 AM Andrija Panic <
> andrija.pa...@gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Venkatesh,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is this 2 separate regions / installations - i.e. not 2 zones
> > inside
> > > > same
> > > > > > Region ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 21:35, kotipalli venkatesh <
> > > > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are using cloudstack older version 4.3.1 and hypervisor is
> > > > xenserver
> > > > > > > 6.2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, we are migrating VMs one Data enter to another Datcenter.
> In
> > > > > > > destination Datcenter hypervisor is xenserver 7.1. all VMs are
> > > > windows
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Andrija Panić
> > > >
> > >
> >
>