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Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

[Stephan Bienek]

Hi Ivet,

at weSystems we build on Ceph for storage projects heavily and thats why we 
decided to build our Cloudstack Platform on Ceph of course.

We are usually in close communication with the people at croit.io, Founding 
Member of the Ceph Foundation, and from time to time share ideas what could be 
helpful to make the combination of Cloudstack and Ceph even greater.

I am happy to be part of the event as well and share our story.

Best regards,
Stephan

> Ivet Petrova  hat am 09.08.2023 14:55 CEST 
> geschrieben:
> 
>  
> Hello all,
> 
> Do we have any community members who are using both Apache CloudStack and 
> Ceph as a storage?
> We are discussing organising a joint 1-day event with the Ceph community and 
> I was wondering if I can get support from companies - join the event and have 
> a talk over their ACS and Ceph usage?
> 
> Kind regards,

Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

[Ivet Petrova]

Awesome Stephan,
Will keep you posted once we agree on a date. I hope we will have exact date 
and place next week.

Kind regards,


 

On 10 Aug 2023, at 10:57, Stephan Bienek 
mailto:stephan@bienek.org>> wrote:

Hi Ivet,

at weSystems we build on Ceph for storage projects heavily and thats why we 
decided to build our Cloudstack Platform on Ceph of course.

We are usually in close communication with the people at 
croit.io, Founding Member of the Ceph Foundation, and from 
time to time share ideas what could be helpful to make the combination of 
Cloudstack and Ceph even greater.

I am happy to be part of the event as well and share our story.

Best regards,
Stephan

Ivet Petrova mailto:ivet.petr...@shapeblue.com>> 
hat am 09.08.2023 14:55 CEST geschrieben:


Hello all,

Do we have any community members who are using both Apache CloudStack and Ceph 
as a storage?
We are discussing organising a joint 1-day event with the Ceph community and I 
was wondering if I can get support from companies - join the event and have a 
talk over their ACS and Ceph usage?

Kind regards,

Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

[Abhishek Ranjan]

Dear Ivet,

I had implemented ceph with cloudstack in CSC on the block store and we'd
also built a small volume object store.
Let me know if you need any information on that.
regards
Abhishek Ranjan


On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 18:26, Ivet Petrova 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Do we have any community members who are using both Apache CloudStack and
> Ceph as a storage?
> We are discussing organising a joint 1-day event with the Ceph community
> and I was wondering if I can get support from companies - join the event
> and have a talk over their ACS and Ceph usage?
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
>

RE: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

[Piotr Pisz]

Generally, it would be great if there was an option to create ceph object 
shares in CloudStack. 
Similar to Openstack "create container" in horizon.

We also run clusters as CS+Ceph pairs.

Regards,
Piotr




-Original Message-
From: Abhishek Ranjan  
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:28 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

Dear Ivet,

I had implemented ceph with cloudstack in CSC on the block store and we'd also 
built a small volume object store.
Let me know if you need any information on that.
regards
Abhishek Ranjan


On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 18:26, Ivet Petrova 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Do we have any community members who are using both Apache CloudStack 
> and Ceph as a storage?
> We are discussing organising a joint 1-day event with the Ceph 
> community and I was wondering if I can get support from companies - 
> join the event and have a talk over their ACS and Ceph usage?
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
>

Re: set display_name as hostname to instances

[Rohit Yadav]

Hi Cristian,

The display name of a VM is used for presentation purpose and isn't passed to 
the VM. I think I understand the requirement (to set a fdqn as hostname, like 
domain.tld which cloudstack doesn't allow as (.) in the name) and it isn't 
supported, perhaps you can raise an issue on Github



Regards.


From: cristian.c@istream.today 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 12:11
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: set display_name as hostname to instances

The reason why I asked for this it is because you can not have duplicated VM
names even if are different account, under /ROOT let say VM name "Linux"
beside this you can not put a name like "domain.tld"   only domain-tld,
which is quite annoying...
I understand the current purpose for display name,  this is the reason why I
asked if it is possible to set this as hostname on the VMs.

Regards,
Cristian



 


-Original Message-
From: Rohit Yadav 
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 7:03 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: set display_name as hostname to instances

Historically, the use of display name in case of instances and other
resources (such as offering, templates etc) was to allow the operator/admin
to the resources by name and end user to see by display name in upper UI/CMP
layers such as CPBM etc. There was even API/response keys such as displayvm
where the idea was a root admin (operator account) can deploy resources
without getting them listed in such upper UI/CMP layers.

I think it's completely redundant now in the current UI implementation
neither is actually followed or used (I think), or even needed. Upper layers
and CMP/billing portals can decide however they want to use these params.


Regards.


From: Pearl d'Silva 
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 18:06
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: Re: set display_name as hostname to instances

Display name is solely for UI purposes. In order to set the host name of a
VM to a desired value, you'll need to pass the name parameter(same as that
of the displayname). If the name parameter is not passed, the hostname would
default to VM-.

Regards,
Pearl

From: cristian.c@istream.today 
Sent: August 4, 2023 11:35 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: set display_name as hostname to instances

The metadata does not show the display name for local-hostname,  for both
parameters I see the name value of the VM, the deploy was made via API and I
provided only the display_name, where the display name is "displayname01".

As you see here, public and local have the same value, from vm name.

{"vm_ip_address":"51.89.84.82","vm_metadata":[["userdata","user-data",null],
["metadata","service-offering","S-2"],["metadata","availability-zone","DE-00
1"],["metadata","local-ipv4","51.89.xx.xx"],["metadata","local-hostname","VM
-c8c113e0-3277-425e-882b-44937413fd4a"],["metadata","public-ipv4","51.89.xx.
xx"],["metadata","public-hostname","VM-c8c113e0-3277-425e-882b-44937413fd4a"
],["metadata","instance-id","c8c113e0-3277-425e-882b-44937413fd4a"],["metada
ta","vm-id","c8c113e0-3277-425e-882b-44937413fd4a"]


Thank you,
Cristian







-Original Message-
From: Pearl d'Silva 
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 6:02 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: set display_name as hostname to instances

If you are using the UI to create the VM, set the name of the VM - this
field sets the hostname and the display name. So you should see this value
in the local-hostname file in the VR metadata folder.
If you are using the API, explicitly set the name field.

Let us know if you see the desired name in the metadata after setting the
name parameter.

Thanks,

From: cristian.c@istream.today 
Sent: August 4, 2023 10:22 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: set display_name as hostname to instances

Hi Pearl,

   I will test this when I upgrade to 4.18.x I'm waiting for 4.18.1.

Thank you,
Cristian




-Original Message-
From: Pearl d'Silva 
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 4:24 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: set display_name as hostname to instances

Hi Cristian,

In addition, in 4.18 a new feature - managed User data was introduced. This
can be used to register userdata with custom parameters - here, the
hostname. And when deploying the VM, the custom parameters could be set to
the desired values. You could refer to
https://www.shapeblue.com/cloudstack-managed-user-data/ for more
information.

Thanks,
Pearl

From: Rohit Yadav 
Sent: August 4, 2023 9:12 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: Re: set display_name as hostname to instances

Hi Cristian,

I'm not sure, but could you try user data (cloud-init data) when you deploy
a VM. In there, you'll have flexibility to set the hostname of the VM to
whatever you'd like.


Regards.


From: cristian.c@istream.

Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

[Rohit Yadav]

Hi Piotr,

Thanks for sharing, could you explain what you mean by 'create ceph object 
shares in CloudStack'?

Do you mean, perhaps CloudStack create/orchestrates Ceph using containers 
without the user having to setup the infra manually and then add to cloudstack?


Regards.


From: Piotr Pisz 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 16:24
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

Generally, it would be great if there was an option to create ceph object 
shares in CloudStack.
Similar to Openstack "create container" in horizon.

We also run clusters as CS+Ceph pairs.

Regards,
Piotr




 


-Original Message-
From: Abhishek Ranjan 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:28 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

Dear Ivet,

I had implemented ceph with cloudstack in CSC on the block store and we'd also 
built a small volume object store.
Let me know if you need any information on that.
regards
Abhishek Ranjan


On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 18:26, Ivet Petrova 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Do we have any community members who are using both Apache CloudStack
> and Ceph as a storage?
> We are discussing organising a joint 1-day event with the Ceph
> community and I was wondering if I can get support from companies -
> join the event and have a talk over their ACS and Ceph usage?
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

[Piotr Pisz]

Hey Rohit,

 

As in the attached picture, OpenStack orchestrates the possibility of
setting up a bucket (container) in Ceph object store via radosgw api. In
this way, the user gets his own share, which he can mount eg in vm. He can
also browse the contents of the bucket and upload/download files via the web
interface (similar to azure blob and others).

It would be great if a similar possibility existed in the CS interface
intended for ordinary users.

Of course, the role of the administrator (CS or project) would be to connect
the correct ceph infrastructure.

Such functionality in CS is very much needed.

 

Regards,

Piotr

 

-Original Message-
From: Rohit Yadav  
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 1:30 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

 

Hi Piotr,

 

Thanks for sharing, could you explain what you mean by 'create ceph object
shares in CloudStack'?

 

Do you mean, perhaps CloudStack create/orchestrates Ceph using containers
without the user having to setup the infra manually and then add to
cloudstack?

 

 

Regards.

 



From: Piotr Pisz <  pi...@piszki.pl>

Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 16:24

To:   users@cloudstack.apache.org <
 users@cloudstack.apache.org>

Subject: RE: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

 

Generally, it would be great if there was an option to create ceph object
shares in CloudStack.

Similar to Openstack "create container" in horizon.

 

We also run clusters as CS+Ceph pairs.

 

Regards,

Piotr

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Original Message-

From: Abhishek Ranjan < 
abhishek...@gmail.com>

Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:28 AM

To:   users@cloudstack.apache.org

Subject: Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

 

Dear Ivet,

 

I had implemented ceph with cloudstack in CSC on the block store and we'd
also built a small volume object store.

Let me know if you need any information on that.

regards

Abhishek Ranjan

 

 

On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 18:26, Ivet Petrova <
 ivet.petr...@shapeblue.com>

wrote:

 

> Hello all,

> 

> Do we have any community members who are using both Apache CloudStack 

> and Ceph as a storage?

> We are discussing organising a joint 1-day event with the Ceph 

> community and I was wondering if I can get support from companies - 

> join the event and have a talk over their ACS and Ceph usage?

> 

> Kind regards,

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

 

Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph

[Rohit Yadav]

Thanks Piotr for the explanation, images gets stripped on this mailing list - 
so I couldn't see it but your explanation made sense to me.

You'll be delighted to know that in fact there's an upcoming feature in 4.19 to 
support object storage framework and buckets as first-class feature in 
CloudStack for end-users, with APIs, UI, bucket/browser and usage support for 
buckets.

This is proposed with a PR raised now and aims to implement the feature in a 
framework-plugin model with support for minio as a supported provider in the 
first iterations. Perhaps you can put in a request via a Github issue to have 
Ceph supported as an object storage pool/provider.

As a workaround, while not ideal you could be able to mount cephfs and have the 
storage served via minio with the proposed PR - 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/7752

Any feedback, testing and suggestions are welcome on this feature.

Reference - 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/%5BDRAFT%5D+CloudStack+Object+Store


Regards.


From: Piotr Pisz 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 18:05
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Apache CloudStack and Ceph


[cid:image001.png@01D9CB96.C6933790]

Hey Rohit,



As in the attached picture, OpenStack orchestrates the possibility of setting 
up a bucket (container) in Ceph object store via radosgw api. In this way, the 
user gets his own share, which he can mount eg in vm. He can also browse the 
contents of the bucket and upload/download files via the web interface (similar 
to azure blob and others).

It would be great if a similar possibility existed in the CS interface intended 
for ordinary users.

Of course, the role of the administrator (CS or project) would be to connect 
the correct ceph infrastructure.

Such functionality in CS is very much needed.



Regards,

Piotr



 


-Original Message-
From: Rohit Yadav 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 1:30 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph



Hi Piotr,



Thanks for sharing, could you explain what you mean by 'create ceph object 
shares in CloudStack'?



Do you mean, perhaps CloudStack create/orchestrates Ceph using containers 
without the user having to setup the infra manually and then add to cloudstack?





Regards.





From: Piotr Pisz mailto:pi...@piszki.pl>>

Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 16:24

To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>>

Subject: RE: Apache CloudStack and Ceph



Generally, it would be great if there was an option to create ceph object 
shares in CloudStack.

Similar to Openstack "create container" in horizon.



We also run clusters as CS+Ceph pairs.



Regards,

Piotr













-Original Message-

From: Abhishek Ranjan mailto:abhishek...@gmail.com>>

Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:28 AM

To: users@cloudstack.apache.org

Subject: Re: Apache CloudStack and Ceph



Dear Ivet,



I had implemented ceph with cloudstack in CSC on the block store and we'd also 
built a small volume object store.

Let me know if you need any information on that.

regards

Abhishek Ranjan





On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 18:26, Ivet Petrova 
mailto:ivet.petr...@shapeblue.com>>

wrote:



> Hello all,

>

> Do we have any community members who are using both Apache CloudStack

> and Ceph as a storage?

> We are discussing organising a joint 1-day event with the Ceph

> community and I was wondering if I can get support from companies -

> join the event and have a talk over their ACS and Ceph usage?

>

> Kind regards,

>

>

>

>

>