AW: Shared Storage for VMs
But this is completely outside of CS. I prefer to have something controlled by CS to have centralized management and quota/usage functionality. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Alessandro Caviglione [mailto:c.alessan...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 11:44 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org Betreff: Re: Shared Storage for VMs Just use a Unified Storage and export volumes to VMs... On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Andrija Panic wrote: > Drbd and gfs2 or something? > > Sent from Google Nexus 4 > On Dec 12, 2014 10:00 AM, "Jochim, Ingo" > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to discuss my feature request for having shared storage for > > several virtual machines controlled by ACS. > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-7970 > > Any ideas about this? Are there workarounds which I can used today? > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > Regards, > > Ingo > > > -- This email was Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.sophos.com
AW: Shared Storage for VMs
Hello Lee, thanks for sharing your ideas. In this scenario someone needs to administer the NAS and handle all requests, right? In the case you have a little VM which shares the storage then all traffic will go through this VM and not directly to the storage. Is there a standard to communicate to different storage systems for managing volumes/shares? Regards, Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Lee Webb [mailto:nullify...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Dezember 2014 02:46 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org Betreff: Re: Shared Storage for VMs I have this requirement for some of the applications deployed in CS too Workaround solution (of sorts) was to create a Shared Network attached to a Physical VLAN & then hook up a Physical NAS to the same VLAN. The shared network is bound to a particular account / project so that it can't be used by everyone For me part of the attraction of using CS over OpenStack was that you could craft the network in this way so that you an support applications / deployments which have physical device requirements or haven't been developed to be 100% cloudy. I notice that OpenStack is looking into a shared volume system, & I'd also like the option of doing it 100% inside of CS if it was capable of doing so. I do recall though that in XenServer (& ESX 4 I think) it wasn't possible to attach a single volume to multiple machines without significant hacking of the underlying Python - after which building things like an Oracle RAC / GRID system or OCFS2 was possible but this is probably out of reach for most users. Perhaps something like a Virtual NAS VM like the Virtual Routers etc. would be sufficient - think OpenFiler but inside of CS? On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Jochim, Ingo wrote: > > But this is completely outside of CS. I prefer to have something > controlled by CS to have centralized management and quota/usage > functionality. > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Alessandro Caviglione [mailto:c.alessan...@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 11:44 > An: users@cloudstack.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Shared Storage for VMs > > Just use a Unified Storage and export volumes to VMs... > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Andrija Panic > > wrote: > > > Drbd and gfs2 or something? > > > > Sent from Google Nexus 4 > > On Dec 12, 2014 10:00 AM, "Jochim, Ingo" > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like to discuss my feature request for having shared storage > > > for several virtual machines controlled by ACS. > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-7970 > > > Any ideas about this? Are there workarounds which I can used today? > > > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > Regards, > > > Ingo > > > > > > > -- > This email was Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. > http://www.sophos.com > -- This email was Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.sophos.com
Re: AW: Shared Storage for VMs
On 15/12/2014 6:45 PM, "Jochim, Ingo" wrote: > > Hello Lee, > > thanks for sharing your ideas. > In this scenario someone needs to administer the NAS and handle all requests, right? Yes, that's correct > > In the case you have a little VM which shares the storage then all traffic will go through this VM and not directly to the storage. Also correct. If your using a physical vlan and shared network then this can be a physical nas or San device though - this is what I'm doing at the moment > > Is there a standard to communicate to different storage systems for managing volumes/shares? I'm not aware of one used to manage storage devices. The underlying protocols to access the storage are standard though depending on what you choose (nfs, iscsi etc) If you want customers to manage their own acls etc in a vm then something like an open filer template might be perfect and allows them to use allocated cs resources normally > > Regards, > Ingo > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Lee Webb [mailto:nullify...@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Dezember 2014 02:46 > An: users@cloudstack.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Shared Storage for VMs > > I have this requirement for some of the applications deployed in CS too > > Workaround solution (of sorts) was to create a Shared Network attached to a Physical VLAN & then hook up a Physical NAS to the same VLAN. > The shared network is bound to a particular account / project so that it can't be used by everyone > > For me part of the attraction of using CS over OpenStack was that you could craft the network in this way so that you an support applications / deployments which have physical device requirements or haven't been developed to be 100% cloudy. > > I notice that OpenStack is looking into a shared volume system, & I'd also like the option of doing it 100% inside of CS if it was capable of doing so. > > I do recall though that in XenServer (& ESX 4 I think) it wasn't possible to attach a single volume to multiple machines without significant hacking of the underlying Python - after which building things like an Oracle RAC / GRID system or OCFS2 was possible but this is probably out of reach for most users. > > Perhaps something like a Virtual NAS VM like the Virtual Routers etc. would be sufficient - think OpenFiler but inside of CS? > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Jochim, Ingo > wrote: > > > > But this is completely outside of CS. I prefer to have something > > controlled by CS to have centralized management and quota/usage > > functionality. > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Alessandro Caviglione [mailto:c.alessan...@gmail.com] > > Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 11:44 > > An: users@cloudstack.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: Shared Storage for VMs > > > > Just use a Unified Storage and export volumes to VMs... > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Andrija Panic > > > > wrote: > > > > > Drbd and gfs2 or something? > > > > > > Sent from Google Nexus 4 > > > On Dec 12, 2014 10:00 AM, "Jochim, Ingo" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I'd like to discuss my feature request for having shared storage > > > > for several virtual machines controlled by ACS. > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-7970 > > > > Any ideas about this? Are there workarounds which I can used today? > > > > > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingo > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > This email was Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. > > http://www.sophos.com > > > > -- > This email was Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.sophos.com