Re: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
Isn't commvault integrating with ACS/CCP? Thought I heard about it. We are really interested in a backup solution as well. Something like how Veeam integrates with vCloud. On Saturday, January 31, 2015, Erik Weber wrote: > You'll probably have an easier time finding something that can backup your > hypervisor, if image/vm backup is what you're looking for. > > A backup software that leveraged the ACS API only doesn't have much options > besides using snapshots (AFAIK), and those you already have. > > If you're looking for something that can backup inside the guest vm I guess > that could be doable by leveraging the event bus. > Haven't seen any backup software that does it yet though. > > -- > Erik > > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Timothy Lothering < > tlother...@datacentrix.co.za > wrote: > > > Thanks for the feedback, I will dig deeper to see what else can be done. > > Looks like I will need to start playing with APIs. > > > > Regards, > > > > Timothy Lothering > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andrei Mikhailovsky [mailto:and...@arhont.com ] > > Sent: 30 January 2015 04:47 PM > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Backup Solution in Cloudstack > > > > As far as I know there is no such solution which is integrated with ACS, > > which is a shame. I would also like to see this issue being addressed by > > the acs. > > > > Having said this, I think the job of acs is orchestration and doesn't > > include the backup functionality within the guest vm. You might want to > > implement a 3rd party backup solution to provide additional backup > > functionality for the granular file recovery. > > > > If you are using XenServer with ACS, the snapshotting is pretty good and > > spot on. I think it covers the need for majority of clients. You can > create > > scheduled backups for volumes and also vms, including memory > snapshotting. > > It works pretty well and is also quick. > > > > In comparison, the KVM snapshotting is awful, broken, slow and just > > unusable even for small deployments. Try creating a snapshot schedule to > > take volume snapshots of let's say 10 volumes at about the same time. > Your > > acs will be brought down to its knees. I am frequently seeing host > > disconnects when I have several snapshots running at the same time. > > > > Andrei > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "Adrian Lewis" > > > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org > > > Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2015 12:13:44 PM > > > Subject: RE: Backup Solution in Cloudstack > > > > > I’m finding that there’s nothing (for our requirements at least) > > > unless you go direct to the hypervisors or the VM OS instances using > > > agents. > > > Keen to > > > know if anyone’s found better solutions. Think there might be some > > > solutions if you’re only using VMware but I’ve ignored them as we’re > > > using Xenserver. Not heard of any commercial products that actually > > > ‘integrate’ > > > with CS unfortunately. Still looking… > > > > > *From:* Timothy Lothering [mailto:tlother...@datacentrix.co.za > ] > > > *Sent:* 30 January 2015 12:01 > > > *To:* users@cloudstack.apache.org > > > *Subject:* Backup Solution in Cloudstack > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the > > > built-in Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more > > > “control”. > > > > > What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with > > > Cloudstack? > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > Timothy > > > > > [image: www.datacentrix.co.za] <http://www.datacentrix.co.za> > > > > > *Timothy Lothering* > > > Solutions Architect > > > Managed Services > > > > > T: +27877415535 > > > F: +27877415100 > > > C: +27824904099 > > > E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za > > > *www.datacentrix.co.za <http://www.datacentrix.co.za/>* > > > > > *Serious about performance,* *passionate about value* > > > > > > > erver%202003%20EOS%20customer%20information%20session,%2019%20Feb%2020 > > > 15%20in%20Midrand> > > > -- > > Timothy Lothering > > Solutions Architect > > Managed Services > > > > T: +27877415535 > > F: +27877415100 > > C: +
Re: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
You'll probably have an easier time finding something that can backup your
hypervisor, if image/vm backup is what you're looking for.
A backup software that leveraged the ACS API only doesn't have much options
besides using snapshots (AFAIK), and those you already have.
If you're looking for something that can backup inside the guest vm I guess
that could be doable by leveraging the event bus.
Haven't seen any backup software that does it yet though.
--
Erik
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Timothy Lothering <
tlother...@datacentrix.co.za> wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback, I will dig deeper to see what else can be done.
> Looks like I will need to start playing with APIs.
>
> Regards,
>
> Timothy Lothering
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrei Mikhailovsky [mailto:and...@arhont.com]
> Sent: 30 January 2015 04:47 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
>
> As far as I know there is no such solution which is integrated with ACS,
> which is a shame. I would also like to see this issue being addressed by
> the acs.
>
> Having said this, I think the job of acs is orchestration and doesn't
> include the backup functionality within the guest vm. You might want to
> implement a 3rd party backup solution to provide additional backup
> functionality for the granular file recovery.
>
> If you are using XenServer with ACS, the snapshotting is pretty good and
> spot on. I think it covers the need for majority of clients. You can create
> scheduled backups for volumes and also vms, including memory snapshotting.
> It works pretty well and is also quick.
>
> In comparison, the KVM snapshotting is awful, broken, slow and just
> unusable even for small deployments. Try creating a snapshot schedule to
> take volume snapshots of let's say 10 volumes at about the same time. Your
> acs will be brought down to its knees. I am frequently seeing host
> disconnects when I have several snapshots running at the same time.
>
> Andrei
>
> - Original Message -----
>
> > From: "Adrian Lewis"
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2015 12:13:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
>
> > I’m finding that there’s nothing (for our requirements at least)
> > unless you go direct to the hypervisors or the VM OS instances using
> > agents.
> > Keen to
> > know if anyone’s found better solutions. Think there might be some
> > solutions if you’re only using VMware but I’ve ignored them as we’re
> > using Xenserver. Not heard of any commercial products that actually
> > ‘integrate’
> > with CS unfortunately. Still looking…
>
> > *From:* Timothy Lothering [mailto:tlother...@datacentrix.co.za]
> > *Sent:* 30 January 2015 12:01
> > *To:* users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > *Subject:* Backup Solution in Cloudstack
>
> > Hi Guys,
>
> > We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the
> > built-in Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more
> > “control”.
>
> > What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with
> > Cloudstack?
>
> > Kind Regards,
>
> > Timothy
>
> > [image: www.datacentrix.co.za] <http://www.datacentrix.co.za>
>
> > *Timothy Lothering*
> > Solutions Architect
> > Managed Services
>
> > T: +27877415535
> > F: +27877415100
> > C: +27824904099
> > E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
> > *www.datacentrix.co.za <http://www.datacentrix.co.za/>*
>
> > *Serious about performance,* *passionate about value*
>
> > > erver%202003%20EOS%20customer%20information%20session,%2019%20Feb%2020
> > 15%20in%20Midrand>
> > --
> Timothy Lothering
> Solutions Architect
> Managed Services
>
> T: +27877415535
> F: +27877415100
> C: +27824904099
> E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
>
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Re: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
Vision Solutions CP&R product seems pretty much abandoned. Not supported
on CS versions later than v3.0.
On 31 Jan 2015 00:19, "Nux!" wrote:
> Not much choice here, unless you start doing backups inside the VMs.
>
> HTH
> Lucian
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Timothy Lothering"
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2015 12:00:57
> > Subject: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the
> built-in
> > Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more "control".
> >
> > What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with
> Cloudstack?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Timothy
> > Timothy Lothering
> > Solutions Architect
> > Managed Services
> >
> > T: +27877415535
> > F: +27877415100
> > C: +27824904099
> > E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
> >
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Re: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
Not much choice here, unless you start doing backups inside the VMs.
HTH
Lucian
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- Original Message -
> From: "Timothy Lothering"
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2015 12:00:57
> Subject: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
> Hi Guys,
>
> We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the built-in
> Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more "control".
>
> What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with Cloudstack?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy
> Timothy Lothering
> Solutions Architect
> Managed Services
>
> T: +27877415535
> F: +27877415100
> C: +27824904099
> E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
>
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RE: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
Thanks for the feedback, I will dig deeper to see what else can be done. Looks
like I will need to start playing with APIs.
Regards,
Timothy Lothering
-Original Message-
From: Andrei Mikhailovsky [mailto:and...@arhont.com]
Sent: 30 January 2015 04:47 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
As far as I know there is no such solution which is integrated with ACS, which
is a shame. I would also like to see this issue being addressed by the acs.
Having said this, I think the job of acs is orchestration and doesn't include
the backup functionality within the guest vm. You might want to implement a 3rd
party backup solution to provide additional backup functionality for the
granular file recovery.
If you are using XenServer with ACS, the snapshotting is pretty good and spot
on. I think it covers the need for majority of clients. You can create
scheduled backups for volumes and also vms, including memory snapshotting. It
works pretty well and is also quick.
In comparison, the KVM snapshotting is awful, broken, slow and just unusable
even for small deployments. Try creating a snapshot schedule to take volume
snapshots of let's say 10 volumes at about the same time. Your acs will be
brought down to its knees. I am frequently seeing host disconnects when I have
several snapshots running at the same time.
Andrei
- Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Lewis"
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2015 12:13:44 PM
> Subject: RE: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
> I’m finding that there’s nothing (for our requirements at least)
> unless you go direct to the hypervisors or the VM OS instances using
> agents.
> Keen to
> know if anyone’s found better solutions. Think there might be some
> solutions if you’re only using VMware but I’ve ignored them as we’re
> using Xenserver. Not heard of any commercial products that actually
> ‘integrate’
> with CS unfortunately. Still looking…
> *From:* Timothy Lothering [mailto:tlother...@datacentrix.co.za]
> *Sent:* 30 January 2015 12:01
> *To:* users@cloudstack.apache.org
> *Subject:* Backup Solution in Cloudstack
> Hi Guys,
> We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the
> built-in Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more
> “control”.
> What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with
> Cloudstack?
> Kind Regards,
> Timothy
> [image: www.datacentrix.co.za] <http://www.datacentrix.co.za>
> *Timothy Lothering*
> Solutions Architect
> Managed Services
> T: +27877415535
> F: +27877415100
> C: +27824904099
> E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
> *www.datacentrix.co.za <http://www.datacentrix.co.za/>*
> *Serious about performance,* *passionate about value*
> erver%202003%20EOS%20customer%20information%20session,%2019%20Feb%2020
> 15%20in%20Midrand>
> --
Timothy Lothering
Solutions Architect
Managed Services
T: +27877415535
F: +27877415100
C: +27824904099
E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
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Re: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
As far as I know there is no such solution which is integrated with ACS, which
is a shame. I would also like to see this issue being addressed by the acs.
Having said this, I think the job of acs is orchestration and doesn't include
the backup functionality within the guest vm. You might want to implement a 3rd
party backup solution to provide additional backup functionality for the
granular file recovery.
If you are using XenServer with ACS, the snapshotting is pretty good and spot
on. I think it covers the need for majority of clients. You can create
scheduled backups for volumes and also vms, including memory snapshotting. It
works pretty well and is also quick.
In comparison, the KVM snapshotting is awful, broken, slow and just unusable
even for small deployments. Try creating a snapshot schedule to take volume
snapshots of let's say 10 volumes at about the same time. Your acs will be
brought down to its knees. I am frequently seeing host disconnects when I have
several snapshots running at the same time.
Andrei
- Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Lewis"
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, 30 January, 2015 12:13:44 PM
> Subject: RE: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
> I’m finding that there’s nothing (for our requirements at least)
> unless you
> go direct to the hypervisors or the VM OS instances using agents.
> Keen to
> know if anyone’s found better solutions. Think there might be some
> solutions if you’re only using VMware but I’ve ignored them as we’re
> using
> Xenserver. Not heard of any commercial products that actually
> ‘integrate’
> with CS unfortunately. Still looking…
> *From:* Timothy Lothering [mailto:tlother...@datacentrix.co.za]
> *Sent:* 30 January 2015 12:01
> *To:* users@cloudstack.apache.org
> *Subject:* Backup Solution in Cloudstack
> Hi Guys,
> We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the
> built-in
> Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more
> “control”.
> What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with
> Cloudstack?
> Kind Regards,
> Timothy
> [image: www.datacentrix.co.za] <http://www.datacentrix.co.za>
> *Timothy Lothering*
> Solutions Architect
> Managed Services
> T: +27877415535
> F: +27877415100
> C: +27824904099
> E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
> *www.datacentrix.co.za <http://www.datacentrix.co.za/>*
> *Serious about performance,* *passionate about value*
>
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RE: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
Did you try Vision Solutions, www.visionsolutions.com?
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lewis [mailto:adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 4:14 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
I’m finding that there’s nothing (for our requirements at least) unless you go
direct to the hypervisors or the VM OS instances using agents. Keen to know if
anyone’s found better solutions. Think there might be some solutions if you’re
only using VMware but I’ve ignored them as we’re using Xenserver. Not heard of
any commercial products that actually ‘integrate’
with CS unfortunately. Still looking…
*From:* Timothy Lothering [mailto:tlother...@datacentrix.co.za]
*Sent:* 30 January 2015 12:01
*To:* users@cloudstack.apache.org
*Subject:* Backup Solution in Cloudstack
Hi Guys,
We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the built-in
Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more “control”.
What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with Cloudstack?
Kind Regards,
Timothy
[image: www.datacentrix.co.za] <http://www.datacentrix.co.za>
*Timothy Lothering*
Solutions Architect
Managed Services
T: +27877415535
F: +27877415100
C: +27824904099
E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
*www.datacentrix.co.za <http://www.datacentrix.co.za/>*
*Serious about performance,* *passionate about value*
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RE: Backup Solution in Cloudstack
I’m finding that there’s nothing (for our requirements at least) unless you
go direct to the hypervisors or the VM OS instances using agents. Keen to
know if anyone’s found better solutions. Think there might be some
solutions if you’re only using VMware but I’ve ignored them as we’re using
Xenserver. Not heard of any commercial products that actually ‘integrate’
with CS unfortunately. Still looking…
*From:* Timothy Lothering [mailto:tlother...@datacentrix.co.za]
*Sent:* 30 January 2015 12:01
*To:* users@cloudstack.apache.org
*Subject:* Backup Solution in Cloudstack
Hi Guys,
We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the built-in
Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more “control”.
What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with
Cloudstack?
Kind Regards,
Timothy
[image: www.datacentrix.co.za] <http://www.datacentrix.co.za>
*Timothy Lothering*
Solutions Architect
Managed Services
T: +27877415535
F: +27877415100
C: +27824904099
E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
*www.datacentrix.co.za <http://www.datacentrix.co.za/>*
*Serious about performance,* *passionate about value*
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Backup Solution in Cloudstack
Hi Guys,
We have been using Cloudstack for over a year now, and whilst the built-in
Snapshot feature is great, our Customers are demanding more "control".
What other backup solutions are certified/capable of working with Cloudstack?
Kind Regards,
Timothy
Timothy Lothering
Solutions Architect
Managed Services
T: +27877415535
F: +27877415100
C: +27824904099
E: tlother...@datacentrix.co.za
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