RE: Odp: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

2022-05-30 Thread Gregoire LAMODIERE
Dear All,

I don’t know if it’s relevant for your use-case, but we (DIMSI) are working on 
a KVM backup solution, which is working fine so far (and is in use for our 
infrastructure).

If interested : https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL/

Next step will be to have a better integration within CS, any help / 
contribution highly appreciated.

Grégoire


De : vas...@gmx.de 
Envoyé : vendredi 27 mai 2022 15:56
À : users@cloudstack.apache.org
Objet : Re: Odp: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

Maybe it would be usefull to provide some more information regarding the 
different "snapshots" which are availeable.
As far as I am aware we have
 - Volume Snapshots - which can be used with different VMs and can be 
planned ahead.
   
https://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.16.1.0/adminguide/storage.html#working-with-volume-snapshots
 - VM Snapshots - which I guess is more "synonym" when talking about 
snapshots.
   
https://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.16.1.0/adminguide/virtual_machines.html#virtual-machine-snapshots

The documentation "only" mentions "Automatic Snapshot Creation" for volumes / 
storage. I am not quiet shure if this feature is also availeable for 
VM-Snapshots.

Am Fr., 27. Mai 2022 um 11:57 Uhr schrieb Nux 
mailto:n...@li.nux.ro>>:

You can have that, it's called "recurrent snapshots", in the UI you will find 
it under the "clock" icon when in the Volume page.

https://cloudstack.apache.org/api/apidocs-4.16/apis/createSnapshotPolicy.html

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You could always count on the volume snapshot feature, especially if you stick 
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Hi Mariusz,

The dummy backup plugin is only for tests. Only the Veeam backup provider
is supported for now by CS, which works with VMware HW.

Best regards,
Slavka

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Mariusz Wojtarek <
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Re: Odp: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

2022-05-27 Thread Nux



Yes indeed there are 2 types of snapshots, the VM (which also can 
snapshot the RAM, thus preserving a full state) and the storage volume 
snapshot.


Both can be used for "backups", but they lend themselves to different 
scenarios.


The VM snapshot is handy in those situations where you want a quick 
fallback in case your "yum" or "windows" updates or other sensitive 
operations break your VM or something. Of course, there are other 
scenarios where this could be handy.


VM snapshots use the underlying file backing (say qcow2 file) for 
storing what is required.


The volume snapshots are closer to the idea of proper backups because 
what you get here is a full copy of the VM's disk, it'd be in a crash 
consistent state by default, but could be good enough for most purposes. 
Cloudstack will transfer this copy over on to the secondary storage, 
which is great because it will be available even if the original 
hypervisor goes down etc. Also, from this point on you can implement 
(outside of Cloudstack) further sync or copy operations on these files, 
thus helping with disaster recorvery plans and so on.


On KVM you need to make sure "kvm snapshot" is enabled in the Global 
Settings btw.


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On 2022-05-27 14:55, vas...@gmx.de wrote:

Maybe it would be usefull to provide some more information regarding 
the different "snapshots" which are availeable.

As far as I am aware we have
- Volume Snapshots - which can be used with different VMs and can be 
planned ahead.

https://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.16.1.0/adminguide/storage.html#working-with-volume-snapshots
- VM Snapshots - which I guess is more "synonym" when talking about 
snapshots.

https://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.16.1.0/adminguide/virtual_machines.html#virtual-machine-snapshots

The documentation "only" mentions "Automatic Snapshot Creation" for 
volumes / storage. I am not quiet shure if this feature is also 
availeable for VM-Snapshots.


Am Fr., 27. Mai 2022 um 11:57 Uhr schrieb Nux :

You can have that, it's called "recurrent snapshots", in the UI you 
will find it under the "clock" icon when in the Volume page.


https://cloudstack.apache.org/api/apidocs-4.16/apis/createSnapshotPolicy.html

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On 2022-05-27 10:41, Mariusz Wojtarek wrote:

I look for solution with schedule option, as I know snaphost can be 
done only on demand


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Od: Nux 
Data: piątek, 27 maja 2022 o 11:31
Do: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
DW: Mariusz Wojtarek 
Temat: Re: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

Thers is no backup driver for KVM at this time and there is none in 
development either, afaik.


You could always count on the volume snapshot feature, especially if 
you stick to single-disk/volume VMs.


HTH

---

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www.nux.ro [1]

On 2022-05-27 09:34, Mariusz Wojtarek wrote:

So there is no backup solution for machines hosted on kvm ?

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Od: Slavka Peleva 
Data: piątek, 27 maja 2022 o 10:24
Do: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Temat: Re: Cludstack vm backup

Hi Mariusz,

The dummy backup plugin is only for tests. Only the Veeam backup 
provider

is supported for now by CS, which works with VMware HW.

Best regards,
Slavka

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Mariusz Wojtarek <
mariusz.wojta...@support-online.pl> wrote:


Hi,

I am using cloudstack with kvm should dummy backup works with vms host 
on
kvm ? when I try to make backup using dummy it not working, every 
backup

size is 1GB.





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Re: Odp: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

2022-05-27 Thread vas...@gmx.de
Maybe it would be usefull to provide some more information regarding the
different "snapshots" which are availeable.
As far as I am aware we have
 - Volume Snapshots - which can be used with different VMs and can be
planned ahead.

https://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.16.1.0/adminguide/storage.html#working-with-volume-snapshots
 - VM Snapshots - which I guess is more "synonym" when talking about
snapshots.

https://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/4.16.1.0/adminguide/virtual_machines.html#virtual-machine-snapshots

The documentation "only" mentions "Automatic Snapshot Creation" for volumes
/ storage. I am not quiet shure if this feature is also availeable for
VM-Snapshots.

Am Fr., 27. Mai 2022 um 11:57 Uhr schrieb Nux :

> You can have that, it's called "recurrent snapshots", in the UI you will
> find it under the "clock" icon when in the Volume page.
>
>
> https://cloudstack.apache.org/api/apidocs-4.16/apis/createSnapshotPolicy.html
>
> ---
> Nux
> www.nux.ro
>
>
> On 2022-05-27 10:41, Mariusz Wojtarek wrote:
>
> I look for solution with schedule option, as I know snaphost can be done
> only on demand
>
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> *DW: *Mariusz Wojtarek 
> *Temat: *Re: Odp: Cludstack vm backup
>
> Thers is no backup driver for KVM at this time and there is none in
> development either, afaik.
>
> You could always count on the volume snapshot feature, especially if you
> stick to single-disk/volume VMs.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> ---
>
> Nux
> www.nux.ro
>
>
>
> On 2022-05-27 09:34, Mariusz Wojtarek wrote:
>
> So there is no backup solution for machines hosted on kvm ?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Błąd! Nie podano nazwy pliku.*
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> *Od: *Slavka Peleva 
> *Data: *piątek, 27 maja 2022 o 10:24
> *Do: *users@cloudstack.apache.org 
> *Temat: *Re: Cludstack vm backup
>
> Hi Mariusz,
>
> The dummy backup plugin is only for tests. Only the Veeam backup provider
> is supported for now by CS, which works with VMware HW.
>
> Best regards,
> Slavka
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Mariusz Wojtarek <
> mariusz.wojta...@support-online.pl> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am using cloudstack with kvm should dummy backup works with vms host on
> > kvm ? when I try to make backup using dummy it not working, every backup
> > size is 1GB.
> >
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Re: Odp: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

2022-05-27 Thread Nux



You can have that, it's called "recurrent snapshots", in the UI you will 
find it under the "clock" icon when in the Volume page.


https://cloudstack.apache.org/api/apidocs-4.16/apis/createSnapshotPolicy.html

---
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www.nux.ro [5]

On 2022-05-27 10:41, Mariusz Wojtarek wrote:

I look for solution with schedule option, as I know snaphost can be 
done only on demand


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Od: Nux 
Data: piątek, 27 maja 2022 o 11:31
Do: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
DW: Mariusz Wojtarek 
Temat: Re: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

Thers is no backup driver for KVM at this time and there is none in 
development either, afaik.


You could always count on the volume snapshot feature, especially if 
you stick to single-disk/volume VMs.


HTH

---

Nux
www.nux.ro [5]

On 2022-05-27 09:34, Mariusz Wojtarek wrote:


So there is no backup solution for machines hosted on kvm ?

Błąd! Nie podano nazwy pliku.

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Od: Slavka Peleva 
Data: piątek, 27 maja 2022 o 10:24
Do: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Temat: Re: Cludstack vm backup

Hi Mariusz,

The dummy backup plugin is only for tests. Only the Veeam backup 
provider

is supported for now by CS, which works with VMware HW.

Best regards,
Slavka

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Mariusz Wojtarek <
mariusz.wojta...@support-online.pl> wrote:


Hi,

I am using cloudstack with kvm should dummy backup works with vms 
host on
kvm ? when I try to make backup using dummy it not working, every 
backup

size is 1GB.





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Do: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
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Temat: Re: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

Thers is no backup driver for KVM at this time and there is none in development 
either, afaik.

You could always count on the volume snapshot feature, especially if you stick 
to single-disk/volume VMs.



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So there is no backup solution for machines hosted on kvm ?





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Data: piątek, 27 maja 2022 o 10:24
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Temat: Re: Cludstack vm backup

Hi Mariusz,

The dummy backup plugin is only for tests. Only the Veeam backup provider
is supported for now by CS, which works with VMware HW.

Best regards,
Slavka

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Mariusz Wojtarek <
mariusz.wojta...@support-online.pl> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am using cloudstack with kvm should dummy backup works with vms host on
> kvm ? when I try to make backup using dummy it not working, every backup
> size is 1GB.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Odp: Cludstack vm backup

2022-05-27 Thread Nux



Thers is no backup driver for KVM at this time and there is none in 
development either, afaik.


You could always count on the volume snapshot feature, especially if you 
stick to single-disk/volume VMs.


HTH

---
Nux
www.nux.ro [5]

On 2022-05-27 09:34, Mariusz Wojtarek wrote:


So there is no backup solution for machines hosted on kvm ?

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Od: Slavka Peleva 
Data: piątek, 27 maja 2022 o 10:24
Do: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Temat: Re: Cludstack vm backup

Hi Mariusz,

The dummy backup plugin is only for tests. Only the Veeam backup 
provider

is supported for now by CS, which works with VMware HW.

Best regards,
Slavka

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Mariusz Wojtarek <
mariusz.wojta...@support-online.pl> wrote:


Hi,

I am using cloudstack with kvm should dummy backup works with vms host 
on
kvm ? when I try to make backup using dummy it not working, every 
backup

size is 1GB.





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Data: piątek, 27 maja 2022 o 10:24
Do: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Temat: Re: Cludstack vm backup
Hi Mariusz,

The dummy backup plugin is only for tests. Only the Veeam backup provider
is supported for now by CS, which works with VMware HW.

Best regards,
Slavka

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:09 AM Mariusz Wojtarek <
mariusz.wojta...@support-online.pl> wrote:

> Hi,
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> I am using cloudstack with kvm should dummy backup works with vms host on
> kvm ? when I try to make backup using dummy it not working, every backup
> size is 1GB.
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