Re: Big Switch & Floodlight

2013-07-29 Thread Nguyen Anh Tu
Hi Adrian,

I'm working on GSoC project relevant to cloudstack's sdn controller.
Currently there are some sdn plugins including NiciraNvp and BigswitchVns.
Floodlight haven't been integrated to CS yet. I'm working on two things:
+ integrating Opendaylight controller
+ improving Cloudstack native sdn controller

Hope it'll appear on 4.3. You are welcome.

Cheers,


2013/7/29 Adrian Lewis 

> Hi Sebastien,
>
> Many thanks for the info - much appreciated. If I can chip in I will, but
> other than about month of Fortran I did at University almost 20 years ago
> I've never done any programming so I'd be a bit lost I'm afraid. I'll keep
> my eye out for any developments on this front and may be able to assist
> with documentation but I doubt I'll be much use with development.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Adrian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sebastien Goasguen
> Sent: 29 July 2013 08:44
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Big Switch & Floodlight
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Adrian Lewis wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > Just wondering if the Bigswitch integration for CS requires the Big
> > Virtual Switch component or whether this is just a complimentary
> > aspect? I ask this as I'm wondering if the future holds the
> > possibility of using the Floodlight controller in CS with third party
> Floodlight compatible 'apps'
> > but without having to purchase both the commercial Big Virtual Switch
> > and the Big Network Controller.
>
> Adrian, currently the BVS integration is not floodlight compatible.
> However it should not take much to do it.
>
> Therefore it is in the short future, I am hoping we will have it for the
> 4.3 release. Note that big switch is extending floodlight and bringing a
> lot of their BVS features within floodlight.
>
>
> > Does the plugin talk to the controller directly or does it have to
> > talk to the BVS for instance? I'm not averse to paying for good
> > software but from the prices I've seen for BVS and BNC I simply can't
> > justify the investment at the moment.
> >
> >
> >
> > I understand that there is on-going work with this from both a GSOC
> > participant ("tuna") as well as Big Switch Networks themselves (Kanzhe
> > Jiang) but I can't for the life of me work out what's been done,
>
> The BVS integration should be functional in 4.2
>
> > what's
> > going to be done and what might work already. It get the impression
> > that the current plugins don't work with Floodlight but this is only
> > due to the fact that the Floodlight API were not finalised in time for
> the 4.1 code.
>
> I don't believe there has been any testing with floodlight itself.
>
> > Does anyone have an insight into what might be possible in 4.2 or even
> > 4.3 with regards to Floodlight, in particular the use of Floodlight to
> > create non-VLAN/GRE/STT isolation (they call them Virtual Network
> > Segments)
>
>
> Bottom line, this should be in 4.3 if we get tuna to keep working on it
> past the gsoc project and that we get some collaboration from BigSwitch.
>
> You are welcome to chip in.
>
> -sebastien
>
> > - not
> > too sure if this would work for broadcast or multicast isolation though.
> > Looking at code is unfortunately quite foreign to me - I'm a
> > networking guy at heart.
> >
> >
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Adrian
>



-- 

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RE: Big Switch & Floodlight

2013-07-29 Thread Adrian Lewis
Hi Sebastien,

Many thanks for the info - much appreciated. If I can chip in I will, but
other than about month of Fortran I did at University almost 20 years ago
I've never done any programming so I'd be a bit lost I'm afraid. I'll keep
my eye out for any developments on this front and may be able to assist
with documentation but I doubt I'll be much use with development.

Kind regards,

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Sebastien Goasguen
Sent: 29 July 2013 08:44
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Big Switch & Floodlight


On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Adrian Lewis wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Just wondering if the Bigswitch integration for CS requires the Big
> Virtual Switch component or whether this is just a complimentary
> aspect? I ask this as I'm wondering if the future holds the
> possibility of using the Floodlight controller in CS with third party
Floodlight compatible 'apps'
> but without having to purchase both the commercial Big Virtual Switch
> and the Big Network Controller.

Adrian, currently the BVS integration is not floodlight compatible.
However it should not take much to do it.

Therefore it is in the short future, I am hoping we will have it for the
4.3 release. Note that big switch is extending floodlight and bringing a
lot of their BVS features within floodlight.


> Does the plugin talk to the controller directly or does it have to
> talk to the BVS for instance? I'm not averse to paying for good
> software but from the prices I've seen for BVS and BNC I simply can't
> justify the investment at the moment.
>
>
>
> I understand that there is on-going work with this from both a GSOC
> participant ("tuna") as well as Big Switch Networks themselves (Kanzhe
> Jiang) but I can't for the life of me work out what's been done,

The BVS integration should be functional in 4.2

> what's
> going to be done and what might work already. It get the impression
> that the current plugins don't work with Floodlight but this is only
> due to the fact that the Floodlight API were not finalised in time for
the 4.1 code.

I don't believe there has been any testing with floodlight itself.

> Does anyone have an insight into what might be possible in 4.2 or even
> 4.3 with regards to Floodlight, in particular the use of Floodlight to
> create non-VLAN/GRE/STT isolation (they call them Virtual Network
> Segments)


Bottom line, this should be in 4.3 if we get tuna to keep working on it
past the gsoc project and that we get some collaboration from BigSwitch.

You are welcome to chip in.

-sebastien

> - not
> too sure if this would work for broadcast or multicast isolation though.
> Looking at code is unfortunately quite foreign to me - I'm a
> networking guy at heart.
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Adrian


Re: Big Switch & Floodlight

2013-07-29 Thread Sebastien Goasguen

On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Adrian Lewis  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> Just wondering if the Bigswitch integration for CS requires the Big Virtual
> Switch component or whether this is just a complimentary aspect? I ask this
> as I’m wondering if the future holds the possibility of using the
> Floodlight controller in CS with third party Floodlight compatible ‘apps’
> but without having to purchase both the commercial Big Virtual Switch and
> the Big Network Controller.

Adrian, currently the BVS integration is not floodlight compatible. However it 
should not take much to do it.

Therefore it is in the short future, I am hoping we will have it for the 4.3 
release. Note that big switch is extending floodlight and bringing a lot of 
their BVS features within floodlight.


> Does the plugin talk to the controller directly
> or does it have to talk to the BVS for instance? I’m not averse to paying
> for good software but from the prices I’ve seen for BVS and BNC I simply
> can’t justify the investment at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
> I understand that there is on-going work with this from both a GSOC
> participant (“tuna”) as well as Big Switch Networks themselves (Kanzhe
> Jiang) but I can’t for the life of me work out what’s been done,

The BVS integration should be functional in 4.2

> what’s
> going to be done and what might work already. It get the impression that
> the current plugins don’t work with Floodlight but this is only due to the
> fact that the Floodlight API were not finalised in time for the 4.1 code.

I don't believe there has been any testing with floodlight itself.

> Does anyone have an insight into what might be possible in 4.2 or even 4.3
> with regards to Floodlight, in particular the use of Floodlight to create
> non-VLAN/GRE/STT isolation (they call them Virtual Network Segments)


Bottom line, this should be in 4.3 if we get tuna to keep working on it past 
the gsoc project and that we get some collaboration from BigSwitch.

You are welcome to chip in.

-sebastien

> – not
> too sure if this would work for broadcast or multicast isolation though.
> Looking at code is unfortunately quite foreign to me – I’m a networking guy
> at heart.
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian