Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
We use EMC VBA wich make an incremental for-ever backup at storage level. It has an appliance that allows to restore the full VM or file level. We have VMware as hypervisor, I don't know if there is support for xenserver. El 18/4/2016 16:03, "kotipalli venkatesh" escribió: we are using NFS as a storage On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > If you only want that, I would use a backup tool at the storage level. It > is pretty straight forward. > > I do not know what type of storage you are using, but if you have something > over NFS+LVM, you can easily use backup tools for LVM. > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yes, Please suggest third-party backup tool. we are using xenserver 6.2 > as > > a hyper-visor and cloudstack version 4.5 version. > > > > what is the best compatibility of the our CS environment. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Ok, > > > So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > > > Thnx for your reply. > > > > > > > > Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level > backup. > > > > Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that > > > backup > > > > spin a new VM using previous day backup. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by backup at the OS level? > > > > > > > > > > Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > > > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 > > > > > > Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party > tool. > > > > > > > > > > > > can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > > > > > > > -- > Rafael Weingärtner >
RE: High importance Suggest backup tool
Hi, We have also done some testing and came up with a possible solution for Windows based machines (We have not yet tested Linux platforms), the outcome was that we were able to backup in-VM Data and restore it by traversing the "Public" interface. For reference, we tested this on VMware. This has some caveats though: 1. It uses the Public network, so if you are charging for "Public" traffic, you will need to keep this in mind. At present there is no way (to my knowledge) of excluding certain Public IP address (source of destination) from being included in the usage data. 2. it depends on an Agent being loaded onto the VM, 3. it isn’t free and is charge per-GB with a minimum commitment etc. The product is made by Acronis, called "Acronis Backup Cloud" and uses certificates to ensure communication to the correct VM as well as securing the in-flight data. Kind Regards, Timothy Lothering -Original Message- From: Rafael Weingärtner [mailto:rafaelweingart...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 18 April 2016 6:40 PM To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: High importance Suggest backup tool Exactly that. Thanks for clarifying my words ;) On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:38 PM, ilya wrote: > I think Rafael means you probably have enterprise grade storage like > Netapp and EMC on the backend. > > In that case, just enable the snapshotting of the filesystem. The > snapshot can be mounted as separate directory - or in case of netapp, > you will have .snapshot directory within you main tree structure. > > How long do you plan to retain the backups? > > If its shortlived, storage level snapshot backups - should be enough. > If its long lived, you may have to move it off another place for long > term storage - be it tape - or disk. > > Regards > ilya > > On 4/18/16 7:03 AM, kotipalli venkatesh wrote: > > we are using NFS as a storage > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> If you only want that, I would use a backup tool at the storage level. > It > >> is pretty straight forward. > >> > >> I do not know what type of storage you are using, but if you have > something > >> over NFS+LVM, you can easily use backup tools for LVM. > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > >> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, Please suggest third-party backup tool. we are using > >>> xenserver 6.2 > >> as > >>> a hyper-visor and cloudstack version 4.5 version. > >>> > >>> what is the best compatibility of the our CS environment. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > >>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Ok, > >>>> So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > >>>> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Rafael, > >>>>> > >>>>> Thnx for your reply. > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level > >> backup. > >>>>> Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using > >>>>> that > >>>> backup > >>>>> spin a new VM using previous day backup. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> Venkatesh.k > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > >>>>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> What do you mean by backup at the OS level? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > >>>>>> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party > >> tool. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>&g
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
Also, if you search this mailing list via markmail.org - or something else, there was another thread about backups - month or two ago - with more suggested tools. On 4/18/16 7:03 AM, kotipalli venkatesh wrote: > we are using NFS as a storage > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If you only want that, I would use a backup tool at the storage level. It >> is pretty straight forward. >> >> I do not know what type of storage you are using, but if you have something >> over NFS+LVM, you can easily use backup tools for LVM. >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < >> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, Please suggest third-party backup tool. we are using xenserver 6.2 >> as >>> a hyper-visor and cloudstack version 4.5 version. >>> >>> what is the best compatibility of the our CS environment. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < >>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Ok, So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Rafael, > > Thnx for your reply. > > Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level >> backup. > Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that backup > spin a new VM using previous day backup. > > Regards, > Venkatesh.k > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What do you mean by backup at the OS level? >> >> Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < >> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 >>> Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 >>> >>> we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party >> tool. >>> >>> can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Venkatesh.k >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Rafael Weingärtner >> > -- Rafael Weingärtner >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Rafael Weingärtner >> >
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
Exactly that. Thanks for clarifying my words ;) On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:38 PM, ilya wrote: > I think Rafael means you probably have enterprise grade storage like > Netapp and EMC on the backend. > > In that case, just enable the snapshotting of the filesystem. The > snapshot can be mounted as separate directory - or in case of netapp, > you will have .snapshot directory within you main tree structure. > > How long do you plan to retain the backups? > > If its shortlived, storage level snapshot backups - should be enough. If > its long lived, you may have to move it off another place for long term > storage - be it tape - or disk. > > Regards > ilya > > On 4/18/16 7:03 AM, kotipalli venkatesh wrote: > > we are using NFS as a storage > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> If you only want that, I would use a backup tool at the storage level. > It > >> is pretty straight forward. > >> > >> I do not know what type of storage you are using, but if you have > something > >> over NFS+LVM, you can easily use backup tools for LVM. > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > >> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, Please suggest third-party backup tool. we are using xenserver 6.2 > >> as > >>> a hyper-visor and cloudstack version 4.5 version. > >>> > >>> what is the best compatibility of the our CS environment. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > >>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > Ok, > So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > Thnx for your reply. > > > > Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level > >> backup. > > Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that > backup > > spin a new VM using previous day backup. > > > > Regards, > > Venkatesh.k > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> What do you mean by backup at the OS level? > >> > >> Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > >> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 > >>> Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > >>> > >>> we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party > >> tool. > >>> > >>> can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Venkatesh.k > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Rafael Weingärtner > >> > > > > > > -- > Rafael Weingärtner > > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Rafael Weingärtner > >> > > > -- Rafael Weingärtner
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
I think Rafael means you probably have enterprise grade storage like Netapp and EMC on the backend. In that case, just enable the snapshotting of the filesystem. The snapshot can be mounted as separate directory - or in case of netapp, you will have .snapshot directory within you main tree structure. How long do you plan to retain the backups? If its shortlived, storage level snapshot backups - should be enough. If its long lived, you may have to move it off another place for long term storage - be it tape - or disk. Regards ilya On 4/18/16 7:03 AM, kotipalli venkatesh wrote: > we are using NFS as a storage > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If you only want that, I would use a backup tool at the storage level. It >> is pretty straight forward. >> >> I do not know what type of storage you are using, but if you have something >> over NFS+LVM, you can easily use backup tools for LVM. >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < >> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, Please suggest third-party backup tool. we are using xenserver 6.2 >> as >>> a hyper-visor and cloudstack version 4.5 version. >>> >>> what is the best compatibility of the our CS environment. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < >>> rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Ok, So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Rafael, > > Thnx for your reply. > > Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level >> backup. > Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that backup > spin a new VM using previous day backup. > > Regards, > Venkatesh.k > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What do you mean by backup at the OS level? >> >> Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < >> venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 >>> Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 >>> >>> we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party >> tool. >>> >>> can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Venkatesh.k >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Rafael Weingärtner >> > -- Rafael Weingärtner >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Rafael Weingärtner >> >
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
we are using NFS as a storage On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > If you only want that, I would use a backup tool at the storage level. It > is pretty straight forward. > > I do not know what type of storage you are using, but if you have something > over NFS+LVM, you can easily use backup tools for LVM. > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yes, Please suggest third-party backup tool. we are using xenserver 6.2 > as > > a hyper-visor and cloudstack version 4.5 version. > > > > what is the best compatibility of the our CS environment. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Ok, > > > So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > > > Thnx for your reply. > > > > > > > > Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level > backup. > > > > Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that > > > backup > > > > spin a new VM using previous day backup. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by backup at the OS level? > > > > > > > > > > Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > > > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 > > > > > > Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party > tool. > > > > > > > > > > > > can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > > > > > > > -- > Rafael Weingärtner >
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
Yes, Please suggest third-party backup tool. we are using xenserver 6.2 as a hyper-visor and cloudstack version 4.5 version. what is the best compatibility of the our CS environment. On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, > So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > Thnx for your reply. > > > > Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level backup. > > Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that > backup > > spin a new VM using previous day backup. > > > > Regards, > > Venkatesh.k > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > What do you mean by backup at the OS level? > > > > > > Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 > > > > Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > > > > > > > > we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party tool. > > > > > > > > can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > > > > > > > -- > Rafael Weingärtner >
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
If you only want that, I would use a backup tool at the storage level. It is pretty straight forward. I do not know what type of storage you are using, but if you have something over NFS+LVM, you can easily use backup tools for LVM. On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:52 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, Please suggest third-party backup tool. we are using xenserver 6.2 as > a hyper-visor and cloudstack version 4.5 version. > > what is the best compatibility of the our CS environment. > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ok, > > So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > Thnx for your reply. > > > > > > Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level backup. > > > Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that > > backup > > > spin a new VM using previous day backup. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > > > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > What do you mean by backup at the OS level? > > > > > > > > Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > > > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 > > > > > Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > > > > > > > > > > we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party tool. > > > > > > > > > > can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > -- Rafael Weingärtner
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
Ok, So, you want continuos backup of VHDs? On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Rafael, > > Thnx for your reply. > > Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level backup. > Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that backup > spin a new VM using previous day backup. > > Regards, > Venkatesh.k > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < > rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > What do you mean by backup at the OS level? > > > > Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 > > > Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > > > > > > we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party tool. > > > > > > can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rafael Weingärtner > > > -- Rafael Weingärtner
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
Hi Rafael, Thnx for your reply. Yes, we are looking os+file (Completely previous state ) level backup. Suppose VM is crashed unexpectedly (WINDOWS/LINUX).we are using that backup spin a new VM using previous day backup. Regards, Venkatesh.k On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Rafael Weingärtner < rafaelweingart...@gmail.com> wrote: > What do you mean by backup at the OS level? > > Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < > venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 > > Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > > > > we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party tool. > > > > can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > > > > Regards, > > Venkatesh.k > > > > > > -- > Rafael Weingärtner >
Re: High importance Suggest backup tool
What do you mean by backup at the OS level? Backup through the hypervisor or OS of the VM? On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM, kotipalli venkatesh < venkateshcloudt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am using cloud stack version 4.5.0 > Hypervisor XenServer 6.2 > > we need full backups in the OS level by using any third party tool. > > can some one please suggest any third party tool with support. > > Regards, > Venkatesh.k > -- Rafael Weingärtner
