Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 21:25:51 -0400
Digimer  wrote:

> On 2017-09-20 07:53 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> > 
> > We've started a major update of the ClusterLabs web design. The main
> > goal (besides making it look more modern) is to make the top-level more
> > about all ClusterLabs projects rather than Pacemaker-specific. It's
> > also much more mobile-friendly.
> > 
> > We've also updated our new logo -- Kristoffer Grönlund had a
> > professional designer look at the one he created. I hope everyone likes
> > the end result. It's simpler, cleaner and friendlier.

Really nice, I like it! Thanks to both of you!

> > Check it out at https://clusterlabs.org/  
> 
> This is excellent!
> 
> Can I recommend an additional category? It would be nice to have a
> "Projects" link that provided a list of projects that fall under the
> clusterlabs umbrella, with a brief blurb and a link to each.

Speaking of another category, maybe it could references some more
community blogs? Or even add a planet? (planet.postgresql.org is pretty popular
in pgsql community).

I'm sure you guys has some people around writing posts about news, features,
tech preview, etc. On top of my head, I can think of RH, Suse, Linbit,
Unixarena, Hastexo, Alteeve, ...

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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Kai Dupke
On 09/21/2017 01:53 AM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> We've started a major update of the ClusterLabs web design.

That looks fresh and amazing.

Thank you all for your work on this!

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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Kai Dupke
On 09/21/2017 01:53 AM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> Check it out at https://clusterlabs.org/

Two comments

- I would like to see the logo used by as many
people/projects/marketingers, so I propose to link the Logo to a Logo
page with some prepared Logos - at least with one big to download and a
license info

- Should we not add a word about the license to the FAQ on top? I mean,
I am with Open Source for quite some time but some others might not and
we want to get fresh members to the community, right? I'm not sure all
subproject share the same license, but if so then it should be written down.

Best regards,
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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Ian
Looks great to me!  I like Kai's suggestions, too.

On Sep 21, 2017 6:08 AM, "Kai Dupke"  wrote:

> On 09/21/2017 01:53 AM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> > Check it out at https://clusterlabs.org/
>
> Two comments
>
> - I would like to see the logo used by as many
> people/projects/marketingers, so I propose to link the Logo to a Logo
> page with some prepared Logos - at least with one big to download and a
> license info
>
> - Should we not add a word about the license to the FAQ on top? I mean,
> I am with Open Source for quite some time but some others might not and
> we want to get fresh members to the community, right? I'm not sure all
> subproject share the same license, but if so then it should be written
> down.
>
> Best regards,
> Kai Dupke
> Senior Product Manager
> SUSE Linux Enterprise 15
> --
> Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor liberty to purchase power.
> Phone:  +49-(0)5102-9310828 Mail: kdu...@suse.com
> Mobile: +49-(0)173-5876766  WWW:  www.suse.com
>
> SUSE Linux GmbH - Maxfeldstr. 5 - 90409 Nuernberg (Germany)
> GF:Felix Imendörffer,Jane Smithard,Graham Norton,HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
>
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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Thu, 2017-09-21 at 09:26 +0200, Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 21:25:51 -0400
> Digimer  wrote:
> 
> > On 2017-09-20 07:53 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> > > Hi everybody,
> > > 
> > > We've started a major update of the ClusterLabs web design. The
> main
> > > goal (besides making it look more modern) is to make the top-
> level more
> > > about all ClusterLabs projects rather than Pacemaker-specific.
> It's
> > > also much more mobile-friendly.
> > > 
> > > We've also updated our new logo -- Kristoffer Grönlund had a
> > > professional designer look at the one he created. I hope everyone
> likes
> > > the end result. It's simpler, cleaner and friendlier.
> 
> Really nice, I like it! Thanks to both of you!
> 
> > > Check it out at https://clusterlabs.org/  
> > 
> > This is excellent!
> > 
> > Can I recommend an additional category? It would be nice to have a
> > "Projects" link that provided a list of projects that fall under
> the
> > clusterlabs umbrella, with a brief blurb and a link to each.
> 
> Speaking of another category, maybe it could references some more
> community blogs? Or even add a planet? (planet.postgresql.org is
> pretty popular
> in pgsql community).

That's a great idea, I'll look into planet when I get the chance

> 
> I'm sure you guys has some people around writing posts about news,
> features,
> tech preview, etc. On top of my head, I can think of RH, Suse,
> Linbit,
> Unixarena, Hastexo, Alteeve, ...
> 
> ++
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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 21:25 -0400, Digimer wrote:
> On 2017-09-20 07:53 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> > 
> > We've started a major update of the ClusterLabs web design. The
> main
> > goal (besides making it look more modern) is to make the top-level
> more
> > about all ClusterLabs projects rather than Pacemaker-specific. It's
> > also much more mobile-friendly.
> > 
> > We've also updated our new logo -- Kristoffer Grönlund had a
> > professional designer look at the one he created. I hope everyone
> likes
> > the end result. It's simpler, cleaner and friendlier.
> > 
> > Check it out at https://clusterlabs.org/
> 
> This is excellent!
> 
> Can I recommend an additional category? It would be nice to have a
> "Projects" link that provided a list of projects that fall under the
> clusterlabs umbrella, with a brief blurb and a link to each.

Yes! This is just the start, we intend to improve the content over
time. (Time being a scarce commodity ...)

I'd like to see the front page be much shorter, with most of its
content moved to the Pacemaker page, and the front page would be mostly
links to all the individual projects plus brief info about ClusterLabs
itself.

> 
> Thanks for doing this! It's much more general now, which is great.
> 
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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Thu, 2017-09-21 at 11:56 +0200, Kai Dupke wrote:
> On 09/21/2017 01:53 AM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> > Check it out at https://clusterlabs.org/
> 
> Two comments
> 
> - I would like to see the logo used by as many
> people/projects/marketingers, so I propose to link the Logo to a Logo
> page with some prepared Logos - at least with one big to download and
> a
> license info

Another good idea

> 
> - Should we not add a word about the license to the FAQ on top? I
> mean,
> I am with Open Source for quite some time but some others might not
> and
> we want to get fresh members to the community, right? I'm not sure
> all
> subproject share the same license, but if so then it should be
> written down.

Yes, the FAQ needs an overhaul as well -- all the Pacemaker-specific
questions should be moved to a separate Pacemaker FAQ, and the top FAQ
should just have questions about ClusterLabs plus links to project FAQs

> 
> Best regards,
> Kai Dupke
> Senior Product Manager
> SUSE Linux Enterprise 15
-- 
Ken Gaillot 




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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Kai Dupke
On 09/21/2017 04:42 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> Yes, the FAQ needs an overhaul as well -- all the Pacemaker-specific
> questions should be moved to a separate Pacemaker FAQ, and the top FAQ
> should just have questions about ClusterLabs plus links to project FAQs

Can we make this a wiki page, so others can contribute as well?

Best regards,
Kai Dupke
Senior Product Manager
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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Adam Spiers

Kai Dupke  wrote:

On 09/21/2017 04:42 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote:

Yes, the FAQ needs an overhaul as well -- all the Pacemaker-specific
questions should be moved to a separate Pacemaker FAQ, and the top FAQ
should just have questions about ClusterLabs plus links to project FAQs


Can we make this a wiki page, so others can contribute as well?


I agree about the importance of allowing anyone to contribute, but if
it's an official page I'd prefer it to be subject to peer review at
least, otherwise it's open to inaccuracies and even vandalism creeping
in.  A lot of projects have a "fork me" ribbon in the corner of their
page, and I think this is a really nice approach, e.g.

   https://simonwhitaker.github.io/github-fork-ribbon-css/

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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Ken Gaillot
On Thu, 2017-09-21 at 16:46 +0200, Kai Dupke wrote:
> On 09/21/2017 04:42 PM, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> > Yes, the FAQ needs an overhaul as well -- all the Pacemaker-
> specific
> > questions should be moved to a separate Pacemaker FAQ, and the top
> FAQ
> > should just have questions about ClusterLabs plus links to project
> FAQs
> 
> Can we make this a wiki page, so others can contribute as well?

I'm thinking the project FAQs should be on the wiki (or their own
separate sites if they use any), and the overall ClusterLabs FAQ (which
should be short and rarely change) can stay a static web page.

There already is a (pacemaker-centric) FAQ on the wiki that overlaps
with the main one, so it definitely could use some clean up for
consistency.

> 
> Best regards,
> Kai Dupke
> Senior Product Manager
> SUSE Linux Enterprise 15
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Re: [ClusterLabs] New website design and new-new logo

2017-09-21 Thread Andrew Price
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 06:53:10PM -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> We've started a major update of the ClusterLabs web design. The main
> goal (besides making it look more modern) is to make the top-level more
> about all ClusterLabs projects rather than Pacemaker-specific. It's
> also much more mobile-friendly.
> 
> We've also updated our new logo -- Kristoffer Grönlund had a
> professional designer look at the one he created. I hope everyone likes
> the end result. It's simpler, cleaner and friendlier.
> 
> Check it out at https://clusterlabs.org/

It looks great! I have a small suggestion: it's not immediately obvious what 
the link icons represent so it would be useful to have hover text for them. It 
also might be useful to have the icons appear as bullets in the vertical link 
menu, for added clarity.

Big thumbs up for the new logo, too :)

Cheers,
Andy

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