Re: [ClusterLabs] Resource agents differences from 1.1.14 and 1.1.18

2018-06-21 Thread Salvatore D'angelo
Hi, thanks for reply

> On 21 Jun 2018, at 15:09, Jan Pokorný  wrote:
> 
> Hello Salvatore,
> 
> On 21/06/18 12:44 +0200, Salvatore D'angelo wrote:
>> I am trying to upgrade my PostgresSQL cluster managed by pacemaker
>> to pacemaker 1.1.8 or 2.0.0.  I have some resource agents that I
>> patched to have them working with my cluster.
>> 
>> Can someone tell me if something is changed in the OCF interface
>> from 1.1.14 release and the 1.1.8/2.0.0?
> 
> You can consider the OCF specification/interface stable and no
> breakages are really imminent.

Good to know

>  There are admittedly some parts with
> less than well-defined semantics (if it's defined at all; for instance,
> questions on what's the proper interpretation of "unique" slash
> reloadable parameters was raised in the past [1,2]).
> 
> This stability is moreover enforced with the requirement of cross
> compatibility between various OCF conformant agent vs. resource
> manager implementations (say those maintained in resource-agents
> project vs. pacemaker, plus various versions thereof, without any
> apriori defined ways of how to negotiate any further inteface
> specifics, but see [3], for instance).
> 
>> I am using the following resource agents:
>> 
>> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/Filesystem
>> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/ethmonitor
>> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/pgsql (patched)
> 
> ^ this is really contained within resource-agents project, and as
>  mentioned, nothing pushes you to update this piece of software
>  even if you intend to update pacemaker (granted, keeping step
>  with overall evolutionary "time snapshots" is always wise)
> 
>> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/HealthCPU (patched)
>> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/ping (patched)
>> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/SysInfo (patched)
> 
> ^ and these are from pacemaker's realms, so there's naturally
>  a closer coupling possibly beyond what standard mandates, but
>  again, OCF forms a "fixed point", basis upon which the graph
>  connecting the functionality user(s) and providers is formed,
>  so presumably you can mix and match various versions even if
>  the bits come from the very same project
> 
>> I am doing some tests to verify this but I would like to know if
>> there is at high level something I should be aware.
> 
> Nothing comes to my mind, though your are always best served with
> your own investigation (since you are modifying the agents anyway).
> 
> As a rule of thumb, I'd start with checking the changelogs of the
> mentioned projects, and deeper concerns can ultimately be resolved
> with the review of cross-version changes on the source code level,
> e.g.:
> 
>  git clone https://github.com/ClusterLabs/resource-agents.git
>  pushd resource-agents
>  # let's say you start with agents from v3.9.7 release
>  git diff v3.9.7 v4.1.1 -- heartbeat/{Filesystem,ethmonitor,pgsql}
>  popd
> 
>  git clone https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker.git
>  pushd pacemaker
>  git diff Pacemaker-1.1.14 Pacemaker-1.1.18 -- \
>  extra/resources/{HealthCPU,SysInfo,ping}
>  popd
> 
> It's more like showing how to fish than serving you a meal,
> but hopefully this helps regardless (perhaps even more than
> latter would do).
> 

Yes, that’s exactly what I did. I just double checked.

> 
> [1] https://lists.clusterlabs.org/pipermail/users/2016-June/010635.html
> [2] https://lists.clusterlabs.org/pipermail/users/2017-September/013743.html
> [3] https://github.com/ClusterLabs/OCF-spec/issues/17
> 
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Re: [ClusterLabs] Resource agents differences from 1.1.14 and 1.1.18

2018-06-21 Thread Jan Pokorný
Hello Salvatore,

On 21/06/18 12:44 +0200, Salvatore D'angelo wrote:
> I am trying to upgrade my PostgresSQL cluster managed by pacemaker
> to pacemaker 1.1.8 or 2.0.0.  I have some resource agents that I
> patched to have them working with my cluster.
> 
> Can someone tell me if something is changed in the OCF interface
> from 1.1.14 release and the 1.1.8/2.0.0?

You can consider the OCF specification/interface stable and no
breakages are really imminent.  There are admittedly some parts with
less than well-defined semantics (if it's defined at all; for instance,
questions on what's the proper interpretation of "unique" slash
reloadable parameters was raised in the past [1,2]).

This stability is moreover enforced with the requirement of cross
compatibility between various OCF conformant agent vs. resource
manager implementations (say those maintained in resource-agents
project vs. pacemaker, plus various versions thereof, without any
apriori defined ways of how to negotiate any further inteface
specifics, but see [3], for instance).

> I am using the following resource agents:
> 
> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/Filesystem
> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/ethmonitor
> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/pgsql (patched)

^ this is really contained within resource-agents project, and as
  mentioned, nothing pushes you to update this piece of software
  even if you intend to update pacemaker (granted, keeping step
  with overall evolutionary "time snapshots" is always wise)

> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/HealthCPU (patched)
> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/ping (patched)
> /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/SysInfo (patched)

^ and these are from pacemaker's realms, so there's naturally
  a closer coupling possibly beyond what standard mandates, but
  again, OCF forms a "fixed point", basis upon which the graph
  connecting the functionality user(s) and providers is formed,
  so presumably you can mix and match various versions even if
  the bits come from the very same project

> I am doing some tests to verify this but I would like to know if
> there is at high level something I should be aware.

Nothing comes to my mind, though your are always best served with
your own investigation (since you are modifying the agents anyway).

As a rule of thumb, I'd start with checking the changelogs of the
mentioned projects, and deeper concerns can ultimately be resolved
with the review of cross-version changes on the source code level,
e.g.:

  git clone https://github.com/ClusterLabs/resource-agents.git
  pushd resource-agents
  # let's say you start with agents from v3.9.7 release
  git diff v3.9.7 v4.1.1 -- heartbeat/{Filesystem,ethmonitor,pgsql}
  popd

  git clone https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker.git
  pushd pacemaker
  git diff Pacemaker-1.1.14 Pacemaker-1.1.18 -- \
  extra/resources/{HealthCPU,SysInfo,ping}
  popd

It's more like showing how to fish than serving you a meal,
but hopefully this helps regardless (perhaps even more than
latter would do).


[1] https://lists.clusterlabs.org/pipermail/users/2016-June/010635.html
[2] https://lists.clusterlabs.org/pipermail/users/2017-September/013743.html
[3] https://github.com/ClusterLabs/OCF-spec/issues/17

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[ClusterLabs] Resource agents differences from 1.1.14 and 1.1.18

2018-06-21 Thread Salvatore D'angelo
Hi all,

I am trying to upgrade my PostgresSQL cluster managed by pacemaker to pacemaker 
1.1.8 or 2.0.0.
I have some resource agents that I patched to have them working with my cluster.

Can someone tell me if something is changed in the OCF interface from 1.1.14 
release and the 1.1.8/2.0.0?
I am using the following resource agents:

/usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/Filesystem
/usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/ethmonitor
/usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/pgsql (patched)
/usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/HealthCPU (patched)
/usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/ping (patched)
/usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/pacemaker/SysInfo (patched)

I am doing some tests to verify this but I would like to know if there is at 
high level something I should be aware.
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