Re: Sitemap schema (Re: [contrib] Cocoon editor)

2007-01-25 Thread Peter Flynn

Mark Lundquist wrote:


On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Peter Flynn wrote:

I couldn't find a DTD or Schema anywhere though: I'm sure there's one 
around -- it's just not obvious. The link to sitemap-2.1-draft.xsd on 
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/sitemap.html is broken, 
and all the mentions seem to point at drafts.


It looks as if it was just made up as things developed, so what needs 
doing is retro-fitting it properly, which will be made harder if the 
development process has not documented the various values or data 
models that are allowed or disallowed for (eg) attribute values.


Just created last week:

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/tools/src/sitemap-1.0.xsd?view=markup 


Excellent, very many thanks.

///Peter
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Re: [contrib] Cocoon editor

2007-01-24 Thread Peter Flynn

Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:

Olivier napisał(a):

Hi all  happy new year,

I' ve started few months ago to build a sitemap cocoon editor as an 
eclipse plugin.
My first goal was to play with eclipse plugins, EMF, WSTTranslator 
and more ...

I think that the proof of concept is done.
Is there anybody in there that would be interested in contributing :
- code,
- code,
- icons,
- ideas

There was Lepido project at one time but unfortunately it died :(
Have you looked at it? What functionality your editor covers? Is there 
any place we can see it?


I was thinking about developing plug-in for Eclipse's Test and 
Performance Tools Platform, but I have no time for this interesting kind 
of activity, now. Also, higher place on my priority list takes writing 
some tutorials about incoming C2.2. I could help but not sooner than in 
a month. Is there any guarantee that you will have enough time to guide 
the effort?


If there was a DTD or Schema for sitemap.xmap files, then you could use 
any normal XML editor, or make a stylesheet or customisation layer for a 
selection of editors.


I couldn't find a DTD or Schema anywhere though: I'm sure there's one 
around -- it's just not obvious. The link to sitemap-2.1-draft.xsd on 
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/sitemap.html is broken, 
and all the mentions seem to point at drafts.


It looks as if it was just made up as things developed, so what needs 
doing is retro-fitting it properly, which will be made harder if the 
development process has not documented the various values or data models 
that are allowed or disallowed for (eg) attribute values.


Until that's done, it's pretty pointless trying to make an editor.

I did make up a DTD for sitemaps, but without proper documentation it's 
not reliable. Generating documentation from a Schema is a singularly 
pointless exercise.


///Peter




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Sitemap schema (Re: [contrib] Cocoon editor)

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Lundquist


On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Peter Flynn wrote:

I couldn't find a DTD or Schema anywhere though: I'm sure there's one  
around -- it's just not obvious. The link to sitemap-2.1-draft.xsd on  
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/sitemap.html is broken,  
and all the mentions seem to point at drafts.


It looks as if it was just made up as things developed, so what needs  
doing is retro-fitting it properly, which will be made harder if the  
development process has not documented the various values or data  
models that are allowed or disallowed for (eg) attribute values.


Just created last week:

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X/tools/src/ 
sitemap-1.0.xsd?view=markup


cheers,
—ml—


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Re: [contrib] Cocoon editor

2007-01-24 Thread Olivier

Thomas Markus wrote:
maybe its easier to include the schema and use a schema aware xml 
editor (or dtd)
sure, but I like to show my pipeline in specific pane, add completion 
with right component (and those included in mother sitemap) and more ...





thomas

Olivier schrieb:

Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:

Olivier napisał(a):

Hi all  happy new year,

I' ve started few months ago to build a sitemap cocoon editor as an 
eclipse plugin.
My first goal was to play with eclipse plugins, EMF, 
WSTTranslator and more ...

I think that the proof of concept is done.
Is there anybody in there that would be interested in contributing :
- code,
- code,
- icons,
- ideas

There was Lepido project at one time but unfortunately it died :(
Have you looked at it?
Yap, but I really don't like the jelly / swt approach. I've tried to 
extend it but don't found it easy to

What functionality your editor covers?

Just editing sitemap.

Is there any place we can see it?
I can provide screen shoot 
(http://www.orcades.net/contrib/cocoon-editor.jpg) or zip file !



I was thinking about developing plug-in for Eclipse's Test and 
Performance Tools Platform, but I have no time for this interesting 
kind of activity, now. Also, higher place on my priority list takes 
writing some tutorials about incoming C2.2. I could help but not 
sooner than in a month. Is there any guarantee that you will have 
enough time to guide the effort?


I don't really want to guide the effort, I just want to contribute 
to the cocoon effort. The only thing I can say is that I will ever 
and ever do my best.





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Re: [contrib] Cocoon editor

2007-01-23 Thread Olivier

Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:

Olivier napisał(a):

Hi all  happy new year,

I' ve started few months ago to build a sitemap cocoon editor as an 
eclipse plugin.
My first goal was to play with eclipse plugins, EMF, WSTTranslator 
and more ...

I think that the proof of concept is done.
Is there anybody in there that would be interested in contributing :
- code,
- code,
- icons,
- ideas

There was Lepido project at one time but unfortunately it died :(
Have you looked at it?
Yap, but I really don't like the jelly / swt approach. I've tried to 
extend it but don't found it easy to

What functionality your editor covers?

Just editing sitemap.

Is there any place we can see it?
I can provide screen shoot 
(http://www.orcades.net/contrib/cocoon-editor.jpg) or zip file !



I was thinking about developing plug-in for Eclipse's Test and 
Performance Tools Platform, but I have no time for this interesting 
kind of activity, now. Also, higher place on my priority list takes 
writing some tutorials about incoming C2.2. I could help but not 
sooner than in a month. Is there any guarantee that you will have 
enough time to guide the effort?


I don't really want to guide the effort, I just want to contribute to 
the cocoon effort. The only thing I can say is that I will ever and ever 
do my best.





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Re: [contrib] Cocoon editor

2007-01-23 Thread Thomas Markus
maybe its easier to include the schema and use a schema aware xml editor 
(or dtd)


thomas

Olivier schrieb:

Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:

Olivier napisał(a):

Hi all  happy new year,

I' ve started few months ago to build a sitemap cocoon editor as an 
eclipse plugin.
My first goal was to play with eclipse plugins, EMF, WSTTranslator 
and more ...

I think that the proof of concept is done.
Is there anybody in there that would be interested in contributing :
- code,
- code,
- icons,
- ideas

There was Lepido project at one time but unfortunately it died :(
Have you looked at it?
Yap, but I really don't like the jelly / swt approach. I've tried to 
extend it but don't found it easy to

What functionality your editor covers?

Just editing sitemap.

Is there any place we can see it?
I can provide screen shoot 
(http://www.orcades.net/contrib/cocoon-editor.jpg) or zip file !



I was thinking about developing plug-in for Eclipse's Test and 
Performance Tools Platform, but I have no time for this interesting 
kind of activity, now. Also, higher place on my priority list takes 
writing some tutorials about incoming C2.2. I could help but not 
sooner than in a month. Is there any guarantee that you will have 
enough time to guide the effort?


I don't really want to guide the effort, I just want to contribute 
to the cocoon effort. The only thing I can say is that I will ever and 
ever do my best.





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Re: [contrib] Cocoon editor

2007-01-22 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski

Olivier napisał(a):

Hi all  happy new year,

I' ve started few months ago to build a sitemap cocoon editor as an 
eclipse plugin.
My first goal was to play with eclipse plugins, EMF, WSTTranslator 
and more ...

I think that the proof of concept is done.
Is there anybody in there that would be interested in contributing :
- code,
- code,
- icons,
- ideas

There was Lepido project at one time but unfortunately it died :(
Have you looked at it? What functionality your editor covers? Is there 
any place we can see it?


I was thinking about developing plug-in for Eclipse's Test and 
Performance Tools Platform, but I have no time for this interesting kind 
of activity, now. Also, higher place on my priority list takes writing 
some tutorials about incoming C2.2. I could help but not sooner than in 
a month. Is there any guarantee that you will have enough time to guide 
the effort?


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