Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/disk/fd fd.c fdc.h
Petr Janda wrote: Matt Emmerton wrote: You may be interested to know that my primary DFly development machine is an AMD Sempron-based system with a BIOS date of late 2004. This machine could hardly be considered "ancient", but yet it has ISA slots and numerous other devices that rely on the ISA bus architecture. Be careful what you wish for -- removing ISA support will prevent a great deal of hardware from running DFly, and I don't think anyone is interested in taking that step. -- Matt Emmerton In that case, maybe leave ISA bus support in for legacy, but remove support for rare/noone uses ISA based cards. Petr Many devices that were once on a visible, external, socketed ISA bus card have long since moved into ~bridge silicon, and most BIOS (and OS) expect some of the key ones to be there - be they emulated, downsized, integrated - whatever, and all at far higher speed than the 'real' ISA' bus ever could have reached. It could be another ten years before that 'worldview' changes. If then. Bill
Re: Experiencing very slow browsing at times (atheros wireless)
Petr Janda wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: :Just a few moments ago another slowness was happening so i ran the 2 :tcpdump commands. After about 1-2 minutes it came back to normal speed :so i tcpdump. : :You/whoever wants can get the dumps here: : :http://www.punchyouremployer.com/files/tcpdump.tgz : :Please have a look and tell me if you can see something wrong. : :Petr It looks like you have a ton of packet loss somewhere. What machine was the tcpdump run on? It was run on the client. 192.168.1.50 is my DF workstation which i ran tcpdump on. 192.168.1.40 is my server (punchyouremployer.com). 192.168.1.1 is my default gateway, 220.233.111.100 is my public IP. There is DMZ configured on the router pointing to 192.168.1.40 Petr Another tcpdump is available: http://www.punchyouremployer.com/files/tcpdump2.tgz This time I also ran ping during the slowness. I also suspect its radio. I replaced router, i replaced card. nothing seems to help. :( How do I set speed and preamble? Do i do it on the router? Petr
Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/disk/fd fd.c fdc.h
Matt Emmerton wrote: You may be interested to know that my primary DFly development machine is an AMD Sempron-based system with a BIOS date of late 2004. This machine could hardly be considered "ancient", but yet it has ISA slots and numerous other devices that rely on the ISA bus architecture. Be careful what you wish for -- removing ISA support will prevent a great deal of hardware from running DFly, and I don't think anyone is interested in taking that step. -- Matt Emmerton In that case, maybe leave ISA bus support in for legacy, but remove support for rare/noone uses ISA based cards. Petr
Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/disk/fd fd.c fdc.h
> Francois Tigeot wrote: > > On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 08:34:57PM -0400, Matt Emmerton wrote: > > > >>> Gergo Szakal wrote: > >>> > On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:57:29 +0200 > Erik Wikström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Isn't it about time to drop support for floppies soon? > > > No, floppies are still great, especially on legacy hardware. > > > >>> Yeah indeed, but I would drop (E)ISA bus support and hardware that uses > >>> (E)ISA. I haven't seen anyone use it for a looong time. > >>> > >> EISA is long dead and can go away > >> ISA is still used on modern hardware -- anything without USB mouse/keyboard > >> uses ISA under the covers, along with other stuff. > > > > And you can still buy modern machines with real ISA expansion slots. Core2 Duo > > PCs with ISA slots seem a bit weird, but they exist. > > > You are right, but I think because DragonFly is a small sized project we > should be trying to support the most common modern hardware, instead of > ancient hardware that barely no one uses these days. You may be interested to know that my primary DFly development machine is an AMD Sempron-based system with a BIOS date of late 2004. This machine could hardly be considered "ancient", but yet it has ISA slots and numerous other devices that rely on the ISA bus architecture. Be careful what you wish for -- removing ISA support will prevent a great deal of hardware from running DFly, and I don't think anyone is interested in taking that step. -- Matt Emmerton
Re: SMP performance on drgonfly
Matthew Dillon wrote: :If there is a reasonable expectation that Preview will perform :differently then I am happy to test it, but the way I read Matt's :email is that there has been no recent progress on SMP development :that might improve performance here. : :Kris I think they're gonna be about the same. 1.9 and 1.8 differ greatly concerning 1:1 threading. any 1:1 (xu) threading comparison should be done with -preview. there is an easy way to switch threading libs, as well (just change the libpthread.so symlink). you *have* to compile the packages yourself, though (can't use the pkgsrc binaries). cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /"\ Work - Mac +++ space for low €€€ NOW!1 +++ Campaign \ / Party Enjoy Relax | http://dragonflybsd.org Against HTML \ Dude 2c 2 the max ! http://golden-apple.biz Mail + News / \ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/disk/fd fd.c fdc.h
Petr Janda wrote: You are right, but I think because DragonFly is a small sized project we should be trying to support the most common modern hardware, instead of ancient hardware that barely no one uses these days. How do you decide what is "barely used these days"? Sascha -- http://yoyodyne.ath.cx
