Re: New site design

2008-05-29 Thread Robert Luciani
Justin C. Sherrill wrote:
> James Frazer put together a nice site redesign based on some discussion we
> had here before.  He sent me a copy of it all, and I'm only now catching
> up enough to show it:
> 
> http://www.shiningsilence.com:81/
> 
> I'm happy with the layout and content; I'm looking for further suggestions
> for tweaks.  If there's no show-stopping objections, I'd like to move the
> dragonflybsd.org site to this.
> 
> 

I'd say that the main improvement over the old site is that the salad is
gone, although I think the site would look better using Fred's colors
(green + red + white). Honestly though, the site and wiki need more than
just a color overhaul. They especially need a clear link hierarchy that
is intuitive, which needs planning by someone who knows that kind of
stuff, together with someone that knows DragonFly. My girlfriend Danwei,
who's finishing her Master's in Interaction Design, has said that she'd
very much like to spend a good amount of time on getting the "web
front-end" of DragonFly good looking.

I think it would be useful to use a CMS like Drupal to combine the site,
wiki, blog and more into a single front-end, with support for fake "user
accounts" and fine-grained permissions. This would greatly simplify
management imho, and can be quite good looking.

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Re: New site design

2008-05-29 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:28:56 +0300
Jordan Gordeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One more note: One can use the site navigation designs of other BSDs for 
> inspiration.

But please not that of the FreeBSD site.

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Re: New site design

2008-05-29 Thread Oliver Fromme
Justin C. Sherrill wrote:
 > James Frazer put together a nice site redesign based on some discussion we
 > had here before.  He sent me a copy of it all, and I'm only now catching
 > up enough to show it:
 > 
 > http://www.shiningsilence.com:81/
 > 
 > I'm happy with the layout and content; I'm looking for further suggestions
 > for tweaks.  If there's no show-stopping objections, I'd like to move the
 > dragonflybsd.org site to this.

I like it.

Although I agree with others that the title would look
better with a slightly larger font instead of spaced
letters.  I also think the title should include the logo.

Other than that, good work!

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: New site design

2008-05-29 Thread Chris Turner

Justin C. Sherrill wrote:

I'm happy with the layout and content; I'm looking for further suggestions
for tweaks.  If there's no show-stopping objections, I'd like to move the
dragonflybsd.org site to this.


- 1 on the cosmetic changes - looks less cohesive & less professional 
imho - that being said it probably could be tweaked and work just fine


navigation is simplified for sure








Re: New site design

2008-05-29 Thread Petr Janda
Its fine, though could use some improvement. Ideally we should have 
wiki/mainsite/bugtracker and everything else connected together in a 
database(postgres), so that we could use thing such things like full-text 
search etc. I am a web developer by profession, so i could help out. That is 
if people find it acceptable to code DragonFly's website in ie Ruby On Rails. 
Mind that, Im packed out with work for the next few months. But I would 
definately like to contribute in one way or another.

Petr

On Thu, 29 May 2008 11:44:12 pm Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Justin C. Sherrill wrote:
>  > James Frazer put together a nice site redesign based on some discussion
>  > we had here before.  He sent me a copy of it all, and I'm only now
>  > catching up enough to show it:
>  >
>  > http://www.shiningsilence.com:81/
>  >
>  > I'm happy with the layout and content; I'm looking for further
>  > suggestions for tweaks.  If there's no show-stopping objections, I'd
>  > like to move the dragonflybsd.org site to this.
>
> I like it.
>
> Although I agree with others that the title would look
> better with a slightly larger font instead of spaced
> letters.  I also think the title should include the logo.
>
> Other than that, good work!
>
> Best regards
>Oliver


RE: New site design

2008-05-29 Thread Mire, John
I would agree, please not like FBSD because then I can't browse the site with 
my blackberry :)

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> 
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:28:56 +0300
> Jordan Gordeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > One more note: One can use the site navigation designs of other BSDs
> > for inspiration.
> 
>   But please not that of the FreeBSD site.
> 
> --
> C:>WIN  |   Directable Mirror
> Arrays
> The computer obeys and wins.| A better way to focus the
> sun
> You lose and Bill collects. |licences available see
> |http://www.sohara.org/


RE: New site design

2008-05-29 Thread Matthew Dillon
Well, the site is your baby so if you feel it need to be changed
definitely go and change it.

Here are my own comments on the site:

* I like the placement of the Download button.

* I don't like the placement of the logo.  I believe it should go in
  the upper left hand corner contemporary with the 'D r a g on F l y B S D'
  label.  It for sure should not go under the menu.

* I don't like the color changes.  I really like the current site's
  color and wallpaper scheme.  But if you want to change the logo
  in the upper left hand corner, I'm OK with that.  I like both logos.

* I do agree that our menus need to be reorganized but I don't like the
  new scheme (and the existing scheme has issues too).  It seems to me
  that the menus could be reorganized in the context of the existing
  scheme.

-Matt
Matthew Dillon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: New site design

2008-05-29 Thread Ernesto Bascon
Just my humble comments:

1. Keep one logo that identifies your project, two different
dragonflies in two different postures does not define the "official"
logo project.

2. Actually I like DragonFly name over DragonFlyBSD name... what is
the correct one? "DragonFly" (with no BSD) sounds more cool to me.

Saludos,


Ernesto

On 29/05/2008, Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, the site is your baby so if you feel it need to be changed
> definitely go and change it.
>
> Here are my own comments on the site:
>
> * I like the placement of the Download button.
>
> * I don't like the placement of the logo.  I believe it should go in
>   the upper left hand corner contemporary with the 'D r a g on F l y B S
> D'
>   label.  It for sure should not go under the menu.
>
> * I don't like the color changes.  I really like the current site's
>   color and wallpaper scheme.  But if you want to change the logo
>   in the upper left hand corner, I'm OK with that.  I like both logos.
>
> * I do agree that our menus need to be reorganized but I don't like the
>   new scheme (and the existing scheme has issues too).  It seems to me
>   that the menus could be reorganized in the context of the existing
>   scheme.
>
>   -Matt
>   Matthew Dillon
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>