Re: The future of NetBSD by Charles M. Hannum
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 05:54:14PM +0800, Bill Hacker wrote: : Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : : I'm starting to imagine the size of the Lisp image I could run on a cluster : like the kind being discussed ;-) : : Jonathon McKitrick : -- : My other computer is your Windows box. : : Go and wath out your mouth with thoap! Sorry, but I'm never coming back after discovering Lisp. ;-P Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: The future of NetBSD by Charles M. Hannum
I'm starting to imagine the size of the Lisp image I could run on a cluster like the kind being discussed ;-) Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: The future of NetBSD by Charles M. Hannum
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 09:58:59AM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: : that 75% of the interest in our project has nothing to do with my : project goals but instead are directly associated with work being done : by our relatively small community. I truely appreciate that effort : because it allows me to focus on the part that is most near and dear : to my own heart. Big question: after all the work that will go into the clustering, other than scientific research, what will the average user be able to use such advanced capability for? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
KDE on DFly question about firmware
Two questions that will determine if I try DFly on my new laptop: 1. I see a lot of KDE users here. Does KDE work better that Gnome on DFly? 2. Is it a lot of work getting the firmware working for Centrino wireless? Last winter, I got a new laptop and gave up trying to get DFly to run. It was mostly the wireless firmware that gave me fits figuring out how to upload. There were broken links trying to find all the utils I needed... it was a huge pain. Plus, ubuntu 'just worked'. Now that I've moved to a MacBook for my main workstation, I can experiment a bit more with the other laptop. Has the wireless firmware installation been streamlined at all? Ubuntu includes it because they don't care about licensing. I'd just like to get it working. Also, and I *hate* to ask this ;-) But will current DFly perform better on my laptop than ubuntu? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Default selection for boot menu?
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 01:16:55PM +0800, W B Hacker wrote: : Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : Addendum: pressing the F1 key does nothing. Keyboard just beeps at me : when I : press a key. : : Jonathon McKitrick : -- : My other computer is your Windows box. : : Is there an MBR with a 'broken' boot manager or bootable image on the : device the BIOS is pointing to? : : If there is none at all, there will usually be a BIOS error message. : : It sounds as if, instead, the BIOS believes it has made a sucessful : hand-off. I used to just use 'dangerously dedicated' mode to blow everything away and take over the entire HD. No boot mgr needed. I thought the DFly install would do something similar, but I can't tell how to. Or, if not, how to get things working the way they should with a boot mgr. I tried: fdisk -I boot0cfg Not sure what's next. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Default selection for boot menu?
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 09:03:56AM +0200, Sascha Wildner wrote: : Make sure you have packed mode enabled: Didn't think I needed that on my old box... Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Default selection for boot menu?
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 09:03:56AM +0200, Sascha Wildner wrote: : Make sure you have packed mode enabled: Okay, we're good now. I was *so* worried I wasn't going to be able to get my pr0n server working. ;-) Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Static IP on DHCP system?
If my home router provides DHCP in the 192.168.0.100 range, is there anything wrong with me statically assigning a 10.0.0.1 address to a box on the network? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Static IP on DHCP system?
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 03:07:52PM -0400, Brian Reichert wrote: : On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : If my home router provides DHCP in the 192.168.0.100 range, is there anything : wrong with me statically assigning a 10.0.0.1 address to a box on the network? : : That would put that and your router on different netblocks; it would : likely route packets it doesn't know about out via it's default : route. So what about a very high 192.168.0.x address? I don't want to set up a server just for DHCP, nor do I want to have to ping my server every time I reboot. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: iostat values zero'ed?
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 10:58:05PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:42:23PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: : : I'm guessing the iostat program is simply not doing the delta properly : : for the first line. In fact, since it isn't delaying at all before : : outputting the first line I'm guessing it has no delta info at all. : : : : If someone wants to fix that I think it is simply a matter of coding. Obviously you could just set up a boolean that flips state after the first iteration of the loop, but is there a higher-quality fix for this? I'll do it, as long as I'm doing it right and to standards of the style of the rest of the project. I know it sounds silly, but no matter how small, I'd like to do it right. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: iostat values zero'ed?
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:42:23PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: : I'm guessing the iostat program is simply not doing the delta properly : for the first line. In fact, since it isn't delaying at all before : outputting the first line I'm guessing it has no delta info at all. : : If someone wants to fix that I think it is simply a matter of coding. Ooh! Ooh! Let me! I'm hurrying to get my dfly box up and running, and I have a week off. I'll see what I can do. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Default selection for boot menu?
This has to be simple... I have a headless box that *should* default to the first and only selection, right? Well, it never times out. It just sits there, blinking that cursor at me as if winking at me with a single, evil eye Default timeout is 10 seconds, right? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: How to get DGUI working over ssh?
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 09:20:55PM -0400, Scott Ullrich wrote: : Login to DragonFly via SSH then run /usr/local/bin/installer. Atleast : this was the method a few versions ago. I thought it was that simple, too. But you have to run the backend into the (back)ground, then the front-end. Not too intuitive, but ok. : In terms of the web installer, you would need a web server installed on : the ISO that you downloaded. If the binary is not in place then it will : be impossible to start the webserver. We used to include thttpd but : these days I would much prefer to include lighttpd as its bsd licensed : and kicks butt. I tried that as well, and there was no thttpd. ;-) Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: How to get DGUI working over ssh?
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 04:57:47PM +0200, Gergo Szakal wrote: : Probably it does not get forwarded thorugh SSH. Try the web-based : interface as described here: : http://wiki.bsdinstaller.com/wikka.php?wakka=WebInstallHowTo There is no thttpd.conf.sample in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, and to thttpd binary that I could find. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: How to get DGUI working over ssh?
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 06:10:30PM +0200, Sascha Wildner wrote: : : http://wiki.bsdinstaller.com/wikka.php?wakka=WebInstallHowTo : : There is no thttpd.conf.sample in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, and to thttpd binary : that I could find. : : Yea I also wondered recently. We used to have a few packages : pre-installed in the old ports days. So how do I start the cgi installer, or at least get the curses one to work over ssh? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Not sure how to do this tricky install...
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: : when you're done, just put the dragonfly live cd in the box you want to : install and plug the usb stick you prepared. system boots and lets you : log in. Do I go ahead and run 'installer' at this point? I tried that, and I got a notice about DFUI starting, , state machine starting, all that then nothing. Where's the curses interface? Isn't that the default? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Not sure how to do this tricky install...
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: : prepared usb stick (i guess you can even put the prepared pfi.conf in : the netboot server's /etc, making the install totally media-less) Now *that's* slick. I'll have to try it. : Serve - BSD : Work - Mac I might be interested it trying this. My new MacBook is so fantastic, I have a hard time seeing what I would need another box for. An airport for broadband, g-drive for backup, what can I do with a server? I'd like to do something interesting, but I'm not sure what. Especially since the server has no monitor. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Not sure how to do this tricky install...
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: : boot another box with the dragonfly live cd, select play netboot : server in the installer, boot the box you want to install and plug the : prepared usb stick (i guess you can even put the prepared pfi.conf in : the netboot server's /etc, making the install totally media-less) This seems like an interesting idea, since I have another box I can use for netboot. But what do I boot the target machine from to get it to talk to netboot and install? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Not sure how to do this tricky install...
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:08:04PM -0400, Haidut wrote: : This might not be the most efficient way but it works, so here it is: Ah, thanks. I remember now. I've been using a Mac too long. ;-) Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Problems building libintl
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:08:23AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : Yup. You posted the emails to users-command@ instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add. I thought I used an alias, so I don't know where 'command' came from. : If you see strings like /usr/release/... then you caught the bug. I'll check it out later. : Re-bootstrapping pkgsrc (manually, not from the broken ISO) should : fix it. Actually, I followed the wiki instructions. pkgsrc wasn't part of the build, AFAICT. Joerg said I need to get pkgsrc from *his* site, which I assume is the uni-rostok.de URL. jm -- I am sure that Jesus would use a command prompt. Hello? Ten Commandments?? - Tighe_L on /.
Re: Problems building libintl
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:08:23AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : Yup. You posted the emails to users-command@ instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Odd. I thought I used an alias, so I don't know where 'command' came from. : If you see strings like /usr/release/... then you caught the bug. I'll check it out later. : Re-bootstrapping pkgsrc (manually, not from the broken ISO) should : fix it. Actually, I followed the wiki instructions. pkgsrc wasn't part of the build, AFAICT. Joerg said I need to get pkgsrc from *his* site, which I assume is the uni-rostok.de URL. jm -- I am sure that Jesus would use a command prompt. Hello? Ten Commandments?? - Tighe_L on /.
Re: Panic enabling wi0 fixed yet?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 02:33:44PM +0100, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: : Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : : I know I asked last week if this issue was dealt with, and the answer was : 'yes, it is fixed in HEAD.' : : Does this mean it will be fixed in RELEASE as well? My laptop is pretty : useless running DFly if I can't get online. ;-) : : Just download the latest snapshot iso and try. If it still fails please : let us know so we can fix it. The NIC works great, thanks! On to pkgsrc... I *thought* it would be in this snapshot, but I just bootstrapped it, no problem. Are the packages on uni-rostock.de building? Because trying to install xorg broke on finding the xorg-libs package it needed. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Panic enabling wi0 fixed yet?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 09:35:37AM -0800, walt wrote: : Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : : [...] : Because trying to install xorg broke on finding the xorg-libs package it : needed. : : That sentence doesn't seem to parse correctly. I just finished : upgrading most of the parts of xorg on my DF machine and all : went well, including the xorg-libraries. What breakage are : you seeing? I *believe* I caught the libs while they were being built. After a wait, they seem to install fine. Now I'm trying to figure out how to install xfce4. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Meta port for xfce4?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 06:54:47PM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: : On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 05:37:07PM +, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : : Is there a meta port that installs most or all of xfce4? I can't tell which : pkg I need to do this. : : xfce4? I am *so* embarrassed. I was looking all over misc, x11, wm, and forgot there *is* a meta directory. Sits in corner, reaches for tall, cone-shaped hat. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Panic with current snapshot
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:27:14PM +0800, Sepherosa Ziehau wrote: : Please try HEAD, : If it still paniks, please post the back trace if you can get it. I installed the Dec 17 snapshot, and I can't update the source tree without wi0 working. But I can't get wi0 working without updating the source tree? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Panic with current snapshot
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:28:17AM -0800, Joseph Garcia wrote: : Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:27:14PM +0800, Sepherosa Ziehau wrote: : : Please try HEAD, : : If it still paniks, please post the back trace if you can get it. : : I installed the Dec 17 snapshot, and I can't update the source tree without : wi0 working. But I can't get wi0 working without updating the source tree? : : : Jonathon McKitrick : -- : My other computer is your Windows box. : : Sounds like a chicken and egg problem. :p Exactly. : Can you stick another NIC in the box? This is only a problem with certain NICs, then? I might have lost the connector from the NIC I don't use anymore. Maybe I'm better off waiting for a newer snapshot, or RELEASE. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: DP performance
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 11:07:08AM +0100, Raphael Marmier wrote: : Danial Thom wrote: : : What do you think my word is? My only point was : that I use the usage level at which a machine : starts dropping packets to determine its point of : capacity. I don't see how I can be wrong about : anything, since its hard to argue against that What OS do you choose to run that comes closest to meeting your standards? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Overall usability in 1.4?
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:53:15AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : I don't know if its the same problem, have your timer issues gone away : with the recent fixes? Well, I had to run FBSD for the time being, so I'm not sure. But the interchange you had with Stefan suggested I might be able to fix the problem by using a plain vanilla console when I start, before starting X. But the symptoms he described were the same as mine. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box.
Re: Timer issues
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 09:04:44AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : Is ACPI enabled? It should be using the ACPI timer instead of : the 8254 if ACPI is turned on. I don't boot with ACPI because shutdown -p doesn't work with it, last time I tried it. But I'll try it again. -- jm 'Let it never be said I was untrue. I never found a home inside of you.' - The Ubiquitious Mr. Lovegrove
Unix/BSD jobs in the Greater Philly area?
Hi all, I lost my position as software engineer today and I'm looking to make a transition into Unix/BSD development. I have a B.S. in progress from NJIT, and extensive knowledge of C/C++, Python, Lisp, VB, and a few other languages as well. If anyone has any leads, I would greatly appreciate them. -- jm 'Let it never be said I was untrue. I never found a home inside of you.' - The Ubiquitious Mr. Lovegrove
Re: ld looking for libc.so.1
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:01:20PM +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: : On 18.10.2005, at 01:04, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : On DFly, executing : the binary gives me 'libc.so.1 not found.' : : What does `ldd binary' and `objdump -x shared-object' tell you about : needed shared objects? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/exp/aclient ldd tc tc: ELF interpreter /usr/lib/libc.so.1 not found tc: signal 6 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/exp/aclient The output for objdump is larger. What am I looking for in that output? jm -- 'What's good for the goose is good for the gander. What the hell is a gander, anyway?' - George Costanza
Re: ld looking for libc.so.1
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 11:07:29PM +0800, Sepherosa Ziehau wrote: : On 10/18/05, Jonathon McKitrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:01:20PM +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: : : On 18.10.2005, at 01:04, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: : : On DFly, executing : : the binary gives me 'libc.so.1 not found.' : : : : What does `ldd binary' and `objdump -x shared-object' tell you about : : needed shared objects? : : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/exp/aclient ldd tc : tc: : ELF interpreter /usr/lib/libc.so.1 not found : tc: signal 6 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/exp/aclient : : The output for objdump is larger. What am I looking for in that output? : : try `readelf -d binary | grep NEEDED' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/exp readelf -d aclient/tc|grep NEEDED 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libalib.so] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/exp readelf -d alib/libalib.so |grep NEEDED [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/exp jm -- 'What's good for the goose is good for the gander. What the hell is a gander, anyway?' - George Costanza
Obfuscating asm code
Are there any good ways to obfuscate asm code that would work in a library? I know there are things like encryption of binaries and such, but it seems these really only work in the Win32 world. What are some good ways to hide/obfuscate asm routines in a typical BSD executable or library? jm -- 'What's good for the goose is good for the gander. What the hell is a gander, anyway?' - George Costanza
Re: Obfuscating asm code
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 08:44:59PM +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: OK, here come the questions :-) : Obfuscation is not easy. The best stuff I've seen was a combination of : intra-command jumps (all over, every second command or such) with So here you mean something like: mov eax,ebx jmp .next dw 0xc705 .next .. Right? So then disassembling sees the 'dw' value as an instruction, and garbles the rest of the disassembly, right? : self-modifying code (close-reach for pipeline tricks and out of pipeline 1. You have to modify the binary to allowing writing to the executable area, right? 2. Won't pipeline tricks run differently on different CPUs? : range) and doubly used commands (depending on how it was jumped to). If So the same series of bytes does 2 different things depending on where you jump into it? Ouch. : this stuff is all over the binary it can be a really tedious work to : figure out how it works. Oh and sprinkle the code with function calls : that never return (breaking common execution flow) and with This is harder to follow than call/ret or jmps? jm -- 'What's good for the goose is good for the gander. What the hell is a gander, anyway?' - George Costanza
mmap versus malloc
If I want to write an assembly language program without using libc, is it ok to use mmap and a file descriptor of -1 to allocate memory? jm -- What's good for the goose is good for the gander. What the hell is a gander, anyway?
Accessing 'hidden' sectors on hard drives
I was reading recently about a copy protection scheme that stores data in sector 32, which is apparently right after the partition info, correct? The scheme I am looking at claims to defeat Norton Ghost and yet survive a format... probably not low-level. However, they will not reveal the details of where the license info is, except to say it is not 'in the filesystem.' Do these unused, reserved, or 'system' sectors exist on a UFS/FFS hard disk? If I am 'dangerously dedicated,' does that extra space go away? Is there any way a copy protection scheme could be devised under FreeBSD that could access that area, or another area beyond the reach of the filesystem? Jonathon McKitrick -- Hoppiness is a good beer.
