Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
On Tue, April 4, 2006 6:03 pm, walt wrote: > Perhaps wiki.dragonflybsd.org would be a good place to put > helpful information for linux users who want to learn about > DragonFly. If I get any (basic!) linux-->BSD questions > I could start a new section there. Don't wait for someone else to ask! Write down what you've learned already.
Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
MARCINISZYN Laurent wrote: > I agree with Walt about the off-list questions and the restitution to > the list if that can help others DragonFly newbies. Perhaps wiki.dragonflybsd.org would be a good place to put helpful information for linux users who want to learn about DragonFly. If I get any (basic!) linux-->BSD questions I could start a new section there.
Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
walt a écrit : Thomas Schlesinger wrote: Simon, I'm coming from Gentoo, so I'm a rookie on *BSD and pkgsrc. First, I must get familiar with the new stuff ;-) Welcome, Thomas! I'm a fan of Gentoo and DragonFly also, and I may be able to answer some newbie-type questions for you. The DragonFlyMeisters are busy making the operating system better for all of us -- so they may not have the time to answer basic *BSD questions for you. I will be happy to answer really basic questions for you off-list (this is a real email address) but I may choose to cross-post any of my answers to this list if I think they may benefit other DragonFly users (not likely ;o) Hello Thomas, hello Walt, Like Thomas, I am a Gentoo user (and a fan of Gentoo) and I'm very interested by DFBSD. I am also a newbie in *BSD (except some basic installations of FreeBSD)... I agree with Walt about the off-list questions and the restitution to the list if that can help others DragonFly newbies. Laurent. mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
Thomas Schlesinger wrote: > Simon, > > I'm coming from Gentoo, so I'm a rookie on *BSD and pkgsrc. First, I must get > familiar with the new stuff ;-) Welcome, Thomas! I'm a fan of Gentoo and DragonFly also, and I may be able to answer some newbie-type questions for you. The DragonFlyMeisters are busy making the operating system better for all of us -- so they may not have the time to answer basic *BSD questions for you. I will be happy to answer really basic questions for you off-list (this is a real email address) but I may choose to cross-post any of my answers to this list if I think they may benefit other DragonFly users (not likely ;o)
Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
Am Montag, 3. April 2006 00:16 schrieb Simon 'corecode' Schubert: > On 02.04.2006, at 22:37, Thomas Schlesinger wrote: > > it would be very nice, if the documentation would be upgraded before > > the next > > one tapping into this trap ;-) > > I think that's barely possible. I could imagine people hitting this > issue almost every time, and writing up new stuff in such a small > period of time isn't possible. If I'm not making sense here, ignore > this. > > The central problem is that we are quite few people only working on > DragonFly, and even less working on docs (Justin is doing a great deal > now again, but yet). You could help out by rewriting these chapters to > fit pkgsrc (or at least help with writing them). > > cheers >simon Simon, I'm coming from Gentoo, so I'm a rookie on *BSD and pkgsrc. First, I must get familiar with the new stuff ;-) Thomas
Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
On Sun, April 2, 2006 6:16 pm, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: > On 02.04.2006, at 22:37, Thomas Schlesinger wrote: >> it would be very nice, if the documentation would be upgraded before >> the next >> one tapping into this trap ;-) > > I think that's barely possible. I could imagine people hitting this > issue almost every time, and writing up new stuff in such a small > period of time isn't possible. If I'm not making sense here, ignore > this. Removing the now totally irrelevant ports section and putting in a "look at pkgsrc.org" note shouldn't take too long, and it's what I intend to do in the next day or two. But, yeah, if someone wanted to write up something more involved on pkgsrc, I'd be thrilled.
Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
On 02.04.2006, at 22:37, Thomas Schlesinger wrote: it would be very nice, if the documentation would be upgraded before the next one tapping into this trap ;-) I think that's barely possible. I could imagine people hitting this issue almost every time, and writing up new stuff in such a small period of time isn't possible. If I'm not making sense here, ignore this. The central problem is that we are quite few people only working on DragonFly, and even less working on docs (Justin is doing a great deal now again, but yet). You could help out by rewriting these chapters to fit pkgsrc (or at least help with writing them). cheers simon -- Serve - BSD +++ RENT this banner advert +++ASCII Ribbon /"\ Work - Mac +++ space for low €€€ NOW!1 +++ Campaign \ / Party Enjoy Relax | http://dragonflybsd.org Against HTML \ Dude 2c 2 the max ! http://golden-apple.biz Mail + News / \ PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
Am Sonntag, 2. April 2006 19:29 schrieb Justin C. Sherrill: > I've installed DragonFlyBSD successfully, but I'm not able to install > software > with pkg_add. I've tried out to build the lsof-packages, following the > Handbook > (http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~justin/handbook/packages-using.html). The Handbook is out of date; we're using pkgsrc (pkgsrc.org) now. Early releases of DragonFly used FreeBSD ports, but it worked less and less well over time as FreeBSD and DragonFly diverged paths. Justin, thank you for your help, it would be very nice, if the documentation would be upgraded before the next one tapping into this trap ;-) Thomas
Re: Newbie-question: Ports and Packages
On Sun, April 2, 2006 11:54 am, Thomas Schlesinger wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a Gentoo Linux user and want to try out DragonFlyBSD, so I'm a *BSD > rookie. > > I've installed DragonFlyBSD successfully, but I'm not able to install > software > with pkg_add. I've tried out to build the lsof-packages, following the > Handbook > (http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~justin/handbook/packages-using.html). The Handbook is out of date; we're using pkgsrc (pkgsrc.org) now. Early releases of DragonFly used FreeBSD ports, but it worked less and less well over time as FreeBSD and DragonFly diverged paths. The quickest way to get to installing things: (as root, may be wrapped) setenv PKG_PATH ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/1.4.0-RELEASE/i386/All pkg_add name_of_package For instance: pkg_add xorg; pkg_add xfce4; pkg_add firefox That downloads premade binaries from the above URL. (http://www.pkgsrc.se is a good place to go look for descriptive info on packages.) A few big packages don't completely work on DragonFly yet, like the completed KDE 3, though most parts of it will install. If you've been using Gentoo, you will probably find binary package installation gratifyingly fast. You may want to check the errata page for a few things that got missed; you may need to do this first so that pkg_add will show in your path, for instance: http://www.dragonflybsd.org/main/errata1_4.cgi The wiki has a HOWTO that goes into more detail about pkgsrc: http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.php/Set_up_and_use_pkgsrc Ripping ports out of the Handbook and replacing with something about pkgsrc just became higher priority for me...
