Re: GUI IDE need.

2020-03-31 Thread Carlos Rovira
Yes, as Alex said Flex was before, and was really the opposite. JavaFX was
inspired in the success of Flex

thanks

El mar., 31 mar. 2020 a las 9:19, Alex Harui ()
escribió:

> I don't know anything about SceneBuilder.  You are welcome to try it
> yourself or recruit others to do it.  I'm still a fan of live-editing.
>
> FWIW, I didn't think Flex was inspired from JavaFX.  Flex shipped before
> JavaFX, IIRC.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 3/30/20, 11:36 PM, "Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek" 
> wrote:
>
> I found this project which is for JavaFX and FXML. Since Flex was
> inspired from JavaFx and that
> almost all the components in JavaFx are also available in Flex how
> about we use the SceneBuilder
> for UI Design and then make a transpilation to MXML source code. Does
> this sound viable or not?
>
>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgluonhq.com%2Fproducts%2Fscene-builder%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3476b592ba6641be8afe08d7d53dd7bb%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637212333898302214sdata=y1DbmF0eaE3wQgQIZ%2BIAiYjy8ADTYGG%2BZa8D4Fy3pXM%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> 16.03.2020, 18:16, "Alex Harui" :
> > Hi Ramazan,
> >
> > It would be awesome if you actually tested these technologies you
> linked to in order to verify their compliance and separate fact from
> fiction. In a quick look, some of these projects seem to not be current.
> IMO, it would be a better use of time to integrate an existing browser into
> an IDE than to try to integrate, update and maintain these other libraries.
> But I'm probably not going to be doing the work. So thanks for pointing out
> these other libraries and maybe someone or you will validate them.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 3/16/20, 6:10 AM, "Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek" 
> wrote:
> >
> > I also found out that there is a possibility to "It should be
> possible to manually parse HTML and convert it into valid FTE content, or
> perhaps an alternative choice would be to build the FTE content directly."
> >
> > based on what Josh Tynjala shared on
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.starling-framework.org%2Fd%2F10408-textblockrenderer-html-support%2F4data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3476b592ba6641be8afe08d7d53dd7bb%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637212333898312209sdata=YWPTZXuCVMAP5SCFpyLRE2clFxeyLHGzl7b19gvxV2Y%3Dreserved=0
> >
> > 16.03.2020, 13:54, "Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek"  >:
> > > Thank you Alex for your feedback.
> > >
> > > Concerning HTML/CSS implementation in Actionscript I found out
> that it is not totally true.
> > > Searching led me to this discoveries:
> > >
> > >
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.as3gamegears.com%2Fmisc%2Fhtmlwrapper%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3476b592ba6641be8afe08d7d53dd7bb%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637212333898312209sdata=YoR%2BhFsjh92wz2e%2BiY3kPECvYO%2FPND4UPPstdYPAYsk%3Dreserved=0
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> 

Re: GUI IDE need.

2020-03-31 Thread Alex Harui
I don't know anything about SceneBuilder.  You are welcome to try it yourself 
or recruit others to do it.  I'm still a fan of live-editing.

FWIW, I didn't think Flex was inspired from JavaFX.  Flex shipped before 
JavaFX, IIRC.

-Alex

On 3/30/20, 11:36 PM, "Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek"  wrote:

I found this project which is for JavaFX and FXML. Since Flex was inspired 
from JavaFx and that
almost all the components in JavaFx are also available in Flex how about we 
use the SceneBuilder
for UI Design and then make a transpilation to MXML source code. Does this 
sound viable or not?


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16.03.2020, 18:16, "Alex Harui" :
> Hi Ramazan,
>
> It would be awesome if you actually tested these technologies you linked 
to in order to verify their compliance and separate fact from fiction. In a 
quick look, some of these projects seem to not be current. IMO, it would be a 
better use of time to integrate an existing browser into an IDE than to try to 
integrate, update and maintain these other libraries. But I'm probably not 
going to be doing the work. So thanks for pointing out these other libraries 
and maybe someone or you will validate them.
>
> Thanks
> -Alex
>
> On 3/16/20, 6:10 AM, "Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek"  wrote:
>
> I also found out that there is a possibility to "It should be 
possible to manually parse HTML and convert it into valid FTE content, or 
perhaps an alternative choice would be to build the FTE content directly."
>
> based on what Josh Tynjala shared on 
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.starling-framework.org%2Fd%2F10408-textblockrenderer-html-support%2F4data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3476b592ba6641be8afe08d7d53dd7bb%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637212333898312209sdata=YWPTZXuCVMAP5SCFpyLRE2clFxeyLHGzl7b19gvxV2Y%3Dreserved=0
>
> 16.03.2020, 13:54, "Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek" :
> > Thank you Alex for your feedback.
> >
> > Concerning HTML/CSS implementation in Actionscript I found out that 
it is not totally true.
> > Searching led me to this discoveries:
> >
> > 
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.as3gamegears.com%2Fmisc%2Fhtmlwrapper%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C3476b592ba6641be8afe08d7d53dd7bb%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637212333898312209sdata=YoR%2BhFsjh92wz2e%2BiY3kPECvYO%2FPND4UPPstdYPAYsk%3Dreserved=0
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> > I 

Re: GUI IDE need.

2020-03-31 Thread Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek
I found this project which is for JavaFX and FXML. Since Flex was inspired from 
JavaFx and that
almost all the components in JavaFx are also available in Flex how about we use 
the SceneBuilder
for UI Design and then make a transpilation to MXML source code. Does this 
sound viable or not?

https://gluonhq.com/products/scene-builder/


16.03.2020, 18:16, "Alex Harui" :
> Hi Ramazan,
>
> It would be awesome if you actually tested these technologies you linked to 
> in order to verify their compliance and separate fact from fiction. In a 
> quick look, some of these projects seem to not be current. IMO, it would be a 
> better use of time to integrate an existing browser into an IDE than to try 
> to integrate, update and maintain these other libraries. But I'm probably not 
> going to be doing the work. So thanks for pointing out these other libraries 
> and maybe someone or you will validate them.
>
> Thanks
> -Alex
>
> On 3/16/20, 6:10 AM, "Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek"  wrote:
>
> I also found out that there is a possibility to "It should be possible to 
> manually parse HTML and convert it into valid FTE content, or perhaps an 
> alternative choice would be to build the FTE content directly."
>
> based on what Josh Tynjala shared on 
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.starling-framework.org%2Fd%2F10408-textblockrenderer-html-support%2F4data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C6af59ebca87b462808ee08d7c9ab6d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637199610420131693sdata=92APRTysURIcIQyUbVee4UgzGQxqAdAmUwTpaUyNzbI%3Dreserved=0
>
> 16.03.2020, 13:54, "Ramazan Ergüder Bekrek" :
> > Thank you Alex for your feedback.
> >
> > Concerning HTML/CSS implementation in Actionscript I found out that it 
> is not totally true.
> > Searching led me to this discoveries:
> >
> > 
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.as3gamegears.com%2Fmisc%2Fhtmlwrapper%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C6af59ebca87b462808ee08d7c9ab6d48%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637199610420141688sdata=f7KpzYFT49TPK6OI31L98vScvcu56QXCaW1LRu7tFF4%3Dreserved=0
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> > I hope that this can help to clear out and help us to make the 
> difference what is fact from what is fiction.
> >
> > Best Regards