Re: educational software development
Thanks for the details, everyone. I'm still looking into all these suggestions. Dennis On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Carlos Velasco carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at Uriana (https://www.assembla.com/spaces/uriana/wiki). It's not gone away, but being built and upgraded right now and it also helps with mobile based complex applications. In case you are interested, feel free to ask any doubts about Uriana and how to use it at your projects. Cheers, Carlos. 2013/7/11 Scott Matheson smathe...@intralinks.com Hi I have been developing the same educational app units of sound in a HyperCard type tool ToolBook for the past 16 years, 3 years ago we started the process to move this app to flex, I have no regrets so far, however I know I may have to recode in to HTML5 in the next 3-5 years depending on how flex develops, I hope I do not have to do this, if I was starting today,I think I would have gone down the HTML5 road, HTML 5 and the supporting frameworks have come on a lot in the past 3 years Unlike commercial software, educational software is not a highly profitable product, so we have a small team In this market you must have a tablet version of you product, I hope to save a lot of time with the flex AIR / Tablet I found design the hardest part of the project, until adobe gave up with flex you had so many way of approaching you project and no clear winner, now most if not all of these frameworks have gone/ past away, the road is clear, KISS, use simple MVC and stay within the simple flex frame work you can The other big help in FLEX is the 1000's of example of how to do X Y Z on the web, and the support from this group Scott PS launch of units of sound UK English q4, US English Q1 CY 14' yes us Brits are coming to the US to teach you how to read :) Sent from my iPad On 11 Jul 2013, at 05:22, Thiago Maia a...@a00s.com wrote: I using Flex/AIR+Blazeds+Tomcat+Java+MySQL in eclipse. I just press play and everithing start to work. Then to convert do AIR I just press Convert to AIR, and again everithing work (this case not including java that will run on the server). I really looking for to move to IntelliJ but I couldnt make all this work together. In the intellij website have a tutorial but didnt help to put all together. Do you know any tutorial about that? thanks Dennis, I think IntelliJ is the best IDE( much better than FlashBuilder) for Flash/Flex development, and I admire you have C/C++ experience, because FlasCC can complile C/C++ into Flash App, which is a killer feature. -Gary On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, haseeb ahmed lalama...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for interruption. haxe.org provides equally good workflow and IMHO, its more future proof. 99% similar to as3 stuff. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Dennis Raddle dennis.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Is Flash Builder a good tool for ActionScript development, or is there something better? I don't want to pay for more than one tool. I'm a C++/Python programmer so I'm comfortable working in code. Dennis On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Young flashflex...@gmail.com wrote: My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary -- regards, lala Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
Re: educational software development
Hi I have been developing the same educational app units of sound in a HyperCard type tool ToolBook for the past 16 years, 3 years ago we started the process to move this app to flex, I have no regrets so far, however I know I may have to recode in to HTML5 in the next 3-5 years depending on how flex develops, I hope I do not have to do this, if I was starting today,I think I would have gone down the HTML5 road, HTML 5 and the supporting frameworks have come on a lot in the past 3 years Unlike commercial software, educational software is not a highly profitable product, so we have a small team In this market you must have a tablet version of you product, I hope to save a lot of time with the flex AIR / Tablet I found design the hardest part of the project, until adobe gave up with flex you had so many way of approaching you project and no clear winner, now most if not all of these frameworks have gone/ past away, the road is clear, KISS, use simple MVC and stay within the simple flex frame work you can The other big help in FLEX is the 1000's of example of how to do X Y Z on the web, and the support from this group Scott PS launch of units of sound UK English q4, US English Q1 CY 14' yes us Brits are coming to the US to teach you how to read :) Sent from my iPad On 11 Jul 2013, at 05:22, Thiago Maia a...@a00s.com wrote: I using Flex/AIR+Blazeds+Tomcat+Java+MySQL in eclipse. I just press play and everithing start to work. Then to convert do AIR I just press Convert to AIR, and again everithing work (this case not including java that will run on the server). I really looking for to move to IntelliJ but I couldnt make all this work together. In the intellij website have a tutorial but didnt help to put all together. Do you know any tutorial about that? thanks Dennis, I think IntelliJ is the best IDE( much better than FlashBuilder) for Flash/Flex development, and I admire you have C/C++ experience, because FlasCC can complile C/C++ into Flash App, which is a killer feature. -Gary On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, haseeb ahmed lalama...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for interruption. haxe.org provides equally good workflow and IMHO, its more future proof. 99% similar to as3 stuff. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Dennis Raddle dennis.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Is Flash Builder a good tool for ActionScript development, or is there something better? I don't want to pay for more than one tool. I'm a C++/Python programmer so I'm comfortable working in code. Dennis On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Young flashflex...@gmail.com wrote: My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary -- regards, lala Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
Re: educational software development
Take a look at Uriana (https://www.assembla.com/spaces/uriana/wiki). It's not gone away, but being built and upgraded right now and it also helps with mobile based complex applications. In case you are interested, feel free to ask any doubts about Uriana and how to use it at your projects. Cheers, Carlos. 2013/7/11 Scott Matheson smathe...@intralinks.com Hi I have been developing the same educational app units of sound in a HyperCard type tool ToolBook for the past 16 years, 3 years ago we started the process to move this app to flex, I have no regrets so far, however I know I may have to recode in to HTML5 in the next 3-5 years depending on how flex develops, I hope I do not have to do this, if I was starting today,I think I would have gone down the HTML5 road, HTML 5 and the supporting frameworks have come on a lot in the past 3 years Unlike commercial software, educational software is not a highly profitable product, so we have a small team In this market you must have a tablet version of you product, I hope to save a lot of time with the flex AIR / Tablet I found design the hardest part of the project, until adobe gave up with flex you had so many way of approaching you project and no clear winner, now most if not all of these frameworks have gone/ past away, the road is clear, KISS, use simple MVC and stay within the simple flex frame work you can The other big help in FLEX is the 1000's of example of how to do X Y Z on the web, and the support from this group Scott PS launch of units of sound UK English q4, US English Q1 CY 14' yes us Brits are coming to the US to teach you how to read :) Sent from my iPad On 11 Jul 2013, at 05:22, Thiago Maia a...@a00s.com wrote: I using Flex/AIR+Blazeds+Tomcat+Java+MySQL in eclipse. I just press play and everithing start to work. Then to convert do AIR I just press Convert to AIR, and again everithing work (this case not including java that will run on the server). I really looking for to move to IntelliJ but I couldnt make all this work together. In the intellij website have a tutorial but didnt help to put all together. Do you know any tutorial about that? thanks Dennis, I think IntelliJ is the best IDE( much better than FlashBuilder) for Flash/Flex development, and I admire you have C/C++ experience, because FlasCC can complile C/C++ into Flash App, which is a killer feature. -Gary On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, haseeb ahmed lalama...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for interruption. haxe.org provides equally good workflow and IMHO, its more future proof. 99% similar to as3 stuff. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Dennis Raddle dennis.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Is Flash Builder a good tool for ActionScript development, or is there something better? I don't want to pay for more than one tool. I'm a C++/Python programmer so I'm comfortable working in code. Dennis On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Young flashflex...@gmail.com wrote: My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary -- regards, lala Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
Re: educational software development
My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Dennis Raddle dennis.rad...@gmail.comwrote: I know very little about Flex, ActionScript, Flash, or AIR. I'm taking some educational software I developed in Python/Qt on Windows, and I want to rewrite it with Adobe's stuff so it can run on iOS and Android. I'm trying to get a feel for which tools will be useful to me. Right now I'm working with the book Flex 4.5 Fundamentals: Training From the Source. I notice that the examples in the book are geared toward RIA's, while my software will not have any Internet features to speak of. It's more like a very simple game (some 2D animation, drawings, fonts) on a desktop. At this point I'm not sure if Flex is even useful to me, or if I will end up writing this purely in ActionScript. I don't know if Flash Builder will be useful to me for that. So, given that my app uses fonts, some simple graphics and 2D animation, and given that I want it to run on iOS and Android, which of the Adobe tools do you think I'll end up using? Dennis
Re: educational software development
Is Flash Builder a good tool for ActionScript development, or is there something better? I don't want to pay for more than one tool. I'm a C++/Python programmer so I'm comfortable working in code. Dennis On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Young flashflex...@gmail.com wrote: My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary
Re: educational software development
sorry for interruption. haxe.org provides equally good workflow and IMHO, its more future proof. 99% similar to as3 stuff. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Dennis Raddle dennis.rad...@gmail.comwrote: Is Flash Builder a good tool for ActionScript development, or is there something better? I don't want to pay for more than one tool. I'm a C++/Python programmer so I'm comfortable working in code. Dennis On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Young flashflex...@gmail.com wrote: My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary -- regards, lala
Re: educational software development
Dennis, I think IntelliJ is the best IDE( much better than FlashBuilder) for Flash/Flex development, and I admire you have C/C++ experience, because FlasCC can complile C/C++ into Flash App, which is a killer feature. -Gary On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, haseeb ahmed lalama...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for interruption. haxe.org provides equally good workflow and IMHO, its more future proof. 99% similar to as3 stuff. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Dennis Raddle dennis.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Is Flash Builder a good tool for ActionScript development, or is there something better? I don't want to pay for more than one tool. I'm a C++/Python programmer so I'm comfortable working in code. Dennis On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Young flashflex...@gmail.com wrote: My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary -- regards, lala
Re: educational software development
Marmalade (http://www.madewithmarmalade.com/sdk) might be worth a look if you're C++ savvy. I havent used it but sounds like it has potential (for graphical projects at least) On 11/07/2013 04:18, Gary Young wrote: Dennis, I think IntelliJ is the best IDE( much better than FlashBuilder) for Flash/Flex development, and I admire you have C/C++ experience, because FlasCC can complile C/C++ into Flash App, which is a killer feature. -Gary On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, haseeb ahmed lalama...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for interruption. haxe.org provides equally good workflow and IMHO, its more future proof. 99% similar to as3 stuff. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Dennis Raddle dennis.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Is Flash Builder a good tool for ActionScript development, or is there something better? I don't want to pay for more than one tool. I'm a C++/Python programmer so I'm comfortable working in code. Dennis On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Young flashflex...@gmail.com wrote: My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary -- regards, lala -- Lee Burrows ActionScripter
Re: educational software development
I using Flex/AIR+Blazeds+Tomcat+Java+MySQL in eclipse. I just press play and everithing start to work. Then to convert do AIR I just press Convert to AIR, and again everithing work (this case not including java that will run on the server). I really looking for to move to IntelliJ but I couldnt make all this work together. In the intellij website have a tutorial but didnt help to put all together. Do you know any tutorial about that? thanks Dennis, I think IntelliJ is the best IDE( much better than FlashBuilder) for Flash/Flex development, and I admire you have C/C++ experience, because FlasCC can complile C/C++ into Flash App, which is a killer feature. -Gary On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM, haseeb ahmed lalama...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for interruption. haxe.org provides equally good workflow and IMHO, its more future proof. 99% similar to as3 stuff. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Dennis Raddle dennis.rad...@gmail.com wrote: Is Flash Builder a good tool for ActionScript development, or is there something better? I don't want to pay for more than one tool. I'm a C++/Python programmer so I'm comfortable working in code. Dennis On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Young flashflex...@gmail.com wrote: My answer is YES, Flash Platform is the only one can cross most desktop browsers and Android/IOS apps, others are just fake. Use Flex when 1) your app will use a lot of standard components; 2) your app has highly complex user interactions. -Gary -- regards, lala
