[libreoffice-users] Re: Message URL seems to be an unsupported one when importing .sdw files

2011-02-24 Thread seppo

Probably its something else because I get the same error with every .sdw file
I try to convert with LibreOffice 3.3.1 (same problem with OpenOffice 3.3.0) 
on Windows XP. The SDW files can be converted without problems on OpenOffice
3.2.1.




NoOp wrote:
 
 On 02/20/2011 02:30 AM, C Evans wrote:
 Somewhere along the development path OO/LO has lost the facility to open 
 StarOffice 1.x .sdw (Writer) files directly.
 
 I have just switched from OO to LO, and have a small number of old sdw 
 files I need to open and update to the .odt file format.
 
 The LO help says to use the file import wizard, but when I tried this on 
 a folder containing (amongst some other files) 5 .sdw files, I hit the 
 error-
 
 BASIC runtime error
 An exception occurred
 type com.sun.start.lang.IllegalArgumentException
 Message URL seems to be an unsupported one
 
 At this point the BASIC window is hung, you can't exit the script 
 because it says it's still running, but the stop button in the macro 
 window is inactive. The only way out is to kill off soffice.bin from the 
 task manager, nasty.
 
 ...
 
 Possibly this bug:
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105810
 [SDW from SO3 having table in footer loops import in OOo3]
 I can open the works.sdw without issue in both OOo and LO, but the
 crashes.sdw loops both  I have to kill soffice.bin to get out.
 
 
 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Marching images

2011-02-24 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 24/02/11 04:31, Simon Cropper a écrit :

Hi Simon,


 What is happening is that the map stays with Page 6.

Yes.

 
 My expectation is that the map stays on the page that the anchor was
 originally attached, so even if new pages are inserted the map moves
 with the page.
 
 Is this expected behaviour or is this a bug?
 

I don't remember now how it was with previous versions of OOo, but I can
confirm that when you anchor an image to a particular page, it gets
stuck to that page. Anything else you insert/add appears to get
positioned around it. I have noticed this with my signature for the
documents I write.

Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't subscibe to the list

2011-02-24 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-23 2:16 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
 On 2/23/2011 11:11 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 02/23/2011 03:39 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
 On 2011-02-23 3:03 AM, James Wilde wrote:
 Not so.  I moderated Mr Sutton's post.

 Is there not a way for moderators to add some kind of 'moderated post'
 header or body tag to these kinds of messages? If not, there should be,
 otherwise how is anyone to know?

 Agree. Something along the lines of:

 If these lists work like the OOo ones, the *only* thing moderators have
 the capability to do is either reject the message or allow it to go to
 the list. They can't affect the subject or content of the message at
 all. Maybe one of the moderators will confirm that this is true for
 these lists, too.

There was a header added that list members could filter on (and look at
if they wanted) to tell which ones were moderated and which ones
weren't. My understanding is these lists don't add that header.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update from 3.3.1-rc-2 to 3.3.1

2011-02-24 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-23 2:26 PM, Luuk wrote:
 The latest version (on Windows) shows:
 LibreOffice 3.3.1
 OOO330m19 (Build:8)
 tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2

Thanks, but what I would like is to see this precise info *on* *the*
*download* *page*.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Update from 3.3.1-rc-2 to 3.3.1

2011-02-24 Thread Luuk
On 24-02-11 13:08, Charles Marcus wrote:
 On 2011-02-23 2:26 PM, Luuk wrote:
 The latest version (on Windows) shows:
 LibreOffice 3.3.1
 OOO330m19 (Build:8)
 tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2
 Thanks, but what I would like is to see this precise info *on* *the*
 *download* *page*.

i agree that this info is missing

But i also have a question about the additional info (OOO330m19
(Build:8) / tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2 )

What use are they to a common user? and why are they presented in the
info screen?

Would a simple LibreOffice 3.3.1, or LibreOffice 3.3.1-rc2  be much
clearer?


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[libreoffice-users] Re: comments are disappearing

2011-02-24 Thread lnvas
Andy convenientpark...@gmail.com wrote (02/24/2011 issue 2886):

 I've been using LibreOffice for a couple months now to grade student's papers,
 to which I append ample comments. I've just discovered that when I save the
 document in Microsoft 2007 format and then open it up again, all the comments
 I've written disappear.
 ...

Hi,

WinXP SP2   LibreOffice 3.3.1  OOO330m19(Build:8)  tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2

Test text sample:

qwerty

File  Properties  Description  Comments:

comment1
 comment2
 comment3

Saved as 'test1.odt'

Closed and re-opened:  all comments OK.

Saved as 'test1_MS-W97.doc'

Closed and re-opened:  all comments OK.

Saved as 'test1_MS-W2007XML.docx'

Closed and re-opened:

File  Properties  Description  Comments:

comment3

(The 3rd comment line retained only!)


Regards,
Lyudmil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill cells with hatched lines/patterns

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Crider
As just a casual user, I haven't seen what I would picture you are 
looking for, but I did run across something this morning that I didn't 
know about and may help you out. When you format cell borders, you have 
the option to turn on diagonal lines through the cell as well as borders 
around the cell.


On 02/23/2011 12:19 PM, Scott Jones wrote:

Is there a way to Fill cells in LO Calc with hatched lines/patterns?



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[libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-24 Thread Juan Carlos y Ermitas

Hola,
Soy Juan Carlos.
Os envío una hoja de cálculo para que comprobéis lo que me pasa.
Agrupo imágenes insertadas. Al desagruparlas desaparecen. ¿Por qué?
Gracias y un saludo

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill cells with hatched lines/patterns

2011-02-24 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi Scott, 

On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:19:43 -0500
Scott Jones srjone...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a way to Fill cells in LO Calc with hatched lines/patterns?

I could have sworn, that there is such a possibility in the Format  Cell menu. 
But when I checked I couldn't find a tab where you can define your own patterns 
(like dashed lines) to put into the background of a cell. 

Maybe I mix it up with another software (very likely). 

You can use your own pictures for the background. So if you need such a 
pattern, why not make it yourself? I have no idea, if this is a good idea at 
all, or how much work it takes... it just crossed my mind. 

Sigrid


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't subscibe to the list

2011-02-24 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/24/2011 5:12 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:

On 2011-02-23 2:16 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:

On 2/23/2011 11:11 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 02/23/2011 03:39 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:

On 2011-02-23 3:03 AM, James Wilde wrote:

Not so.  I moderated Mr Sutton's post.

Is there not a way for moderators to add some kind of 'moderated post'
header or body tag to these kinds of messages? If not, there should be,
otherwise how is anyone to know?

Agree. Something along the lines of:

If these lists work like the OOo ones, the *only* thing moderators have
the capability to do is either reject the message or allow it to go to
the list. They can't affect the subject or content of the message at
all. Maybe one of the moderators will confirm that this is true for
these lists, too.

There was a header added that list members could filter on (and look at
if they wanted) to tell which ones were moderated and which ones
weren't. My understanding is these lists don't add that header.


Right, there is no such header. The Archived-At header was added, perhaps intending to help with 
following the discussion through the archives, but I talked about why this doesn't really work in an 
earlier note on this thread.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-24 Thread Luiz Oliveira
Hi,

 Hola,
 Soy Juan Carlos.
 Os envío una hoja de cálculo para que comprobéis lo que me pasa.
 Agrupo imágenes insertadas. Al desagruparlas desaparecen. ¿Por qué?
 Gracias y un saludo

Messages to this list should be strictly in English!!

Rgds,


Luiz Oliveira

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-24 Thread Glenn

On 2/24/11 12:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Tom  Luis,

I hesitatingly agree.  Spanish is a language used by many people all 
over the world but so is Mandarin;
however, English is the most common language used by int'l businesses 
and many of us are

using OO or LO in a business context.

Therefore, communication on the LibreOffice forum should be in English.
I think the object we would all agree upon is the need for communication 
which has proved invaluable

to me as a new user.

Regards,
Glenn


From: Luiz Oliveiraluizh...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 16:49:15
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

Hi,


Hola,
Soy Juan Carlos.
Os envío una hoja de cálculo para que comprobéis lo que me pasa.
Agrupo imágenes insertadas. Al desagruparlas desaparecen. ¿Por qué?
Gracias y un saludo


Messages to this list should be strictly in English!!

Rgds,


Luiz Oliveira



Hi :)

I think there are different lists for non-english but i do like the occasional
definite reminder that we are a multilingual organisation.
Regards from
Tom :)







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-24 Thread Helmar
Hi folks... I just joined the English users list. I'm a brazilian
memberhttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PT-BR/Colaboradores#Helmar.jpgHelmar_Fernandes
of
the brazilian LibreOffice community.
I agree that English is the most commom language used all around the
businesses world.
As you may notice, my English is terrible (I´ve never had a single English
class in my life) but I can understand you  and express myself due to my
curiosity.
So if our Spanish friend or any other non-English  speaker friend needs help
we are here to try to help you!


Helmar Fernandes
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www.aquahobby.com
www.penguim.net/pocosdecaldas



On 24 February 2011 14:35, Glenn glenns...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2/24/11 12:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Tom  Luis,

 I hesitatingly agree.  Spanish is a language used by many people all over
 the world but so is Mandarin;
 however, English is the most common language used by int'l businesses and
 many of us are
 using OO or LO in a business context.

 Therefore, communication on the LibreOffice forum should be in English.
 I think the object we would all agree upon is the need for communication
 which has proved invaluable
 to me as a new user.

 Regards,
 Glenn

 

 From: Luiz Oliveiraluizh...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 16:49:15
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

 Hi,

 Hola,
 Soy Juan Carlos.
 Os envío una hoja de cálculo para que comprobéis lo que me pasa.
 Agrupo imágenes insertadas. Al desagruparlas desaparecen. ¿Por qué?
 Gracias y un saludo

 Messages to this list should be strictly in English!!

 Rgds,


 Luiz Oliveira



 Hi :)

 I think there are different lists for non-english but i do like the
 occasional
 definite reminder that we are a multilingual organisation.
 Regards from
 Tom :)






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-24 Thread Glenn

Hi Tom and Luis,

I forgot about the many translations of LibreOffice out there.  But I 
don't think there is a version
in Portugese currently available; however, I discussed the issue of 
additional translations

with a friend several days ago - before this issue was even posted.

He said providing a version of s/w in another language was fairly easy: 
you only have to
understand the language you are translating from and the one you want to 
translate to

for verification of the translation.

He tells me that there are packages readily available to automate the 
translation.  He
says that this is probably how other, non-English versions have been 
made available
for LibreOffice.  Some minor editing  may be required and, according to 
him, they are mainly

limited to using abbreviations in order to fit the field.

So there seems to be a solution already available!  That is a good thing!

Regards,
Glenn

On 2/24/11 12:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

English is the only language i understand although sometimes i can understand
american geek too.  Still, there are so many machine translators available that
the need to stick rigorously to 1 single language seems a bit out-dated even for
people like me.  It probably is best to stick with american or English in this
list but accidents happen and they remind us that TDF is greater than we are
normally aware of.  To err is human but feels devine

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Glennglenns...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 17:35:07
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

On 2/24/11 12:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Tom   Luis,

I hesitatingly agree.  Spanish is a language used by many people all
over the world but so is Mandarin;
however, English is the most common language used by int'l businesses
and many of us are
using OO or LO in a business context.

Therefore, communication on the LibreOffice forum should be in English.
I think the object we would all agree upon is the need for communication
which has proved invaluable
to me as a new user.

Regards,
Glenn


From: Luiz Oliveiraluizh...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 16:49:15
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

Hi,


Hola,
Soy Juan Carlos.
Os envío una hoja de cálculo para que comprobéis lo que me pasa.
Agrupo imágenes insertadas. Al desagruparlas desaparecen. ¿Por qué?
Gracias y un saludo


Messages to this list should be strictly in English!!

Rgds,


Luiz Oliveira



Hi :)

I think there are different lists for non-english but i do like the occasional
definite reminder that we are a multilingual organisation.
Regards from
Tom :)









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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-24 Thread Helmar
Helmar Fernandes
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www.aquahobby.com
www.penguim.net/pocosdecaldas



On 24 February 2011 15:42, Glenn glenns...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tom and Luis,

 I forgot about the many translations of LibreOffice out there.  But I don't
 think there is a version
 in Portugese currently available; however, I discussed the issue of
 additional translations
 with a friend several days ago - before this issue was even posted.


I Glenn  yes there is a version of LibreOffice in Portuguese but
if you´re referring to Portuguese from Portugal the answer is I dont know...
I´m talking about Brazilian Portuguese
(PT-BRhttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PT-BR/)
which is different from the PT that refers to all other places where the
portuguese language is spoken...

And I´m proud to say that we are one of the most active LibreOffice
communities all around the world.
If you want you can take a look at our
magazinehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PT-BR/Revista.





 He said providing a version of s/w in another language was fairly easy: you
 only have to
 understand the language you are translating from and the one you want to
 translate to
 for verification of the translation.

 He tells me that there are packages readily available to automate the
 translation.  He
 says that this is probably how other, non-English versions have been made
 available
 for LibreOffice.  Some minor editing  may be required and, according to
 him, they are mainly
 limited to using abbreviations in order to fit the field.

 So there seems to be a solution already available!  That is a good thing!

 Regards,
 Glenn


 On 2/24/11 12:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)

 English is the only language i understand although sometimes i can
 understand
 american geek too.  Still, there are so many machine translators available
 that
 the need to stick rigorously to 1 single language seems a bit out-dated
 even for
 people like me.  It probably is best to stick with american or English in
 this
 list but accidents happen and they remind us that TDF is greater than we
 are
 normally aware of.  To err is human but feels devine

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: Glennglenns...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 17:35:07
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

 On 2/24/11 12:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Tom   Luis,

 I hesitatingly agree.  Spanish is a language used by many people all
 over the world but so is Mandarin;
 however, English is the most common language used by int'l businesses
 and many of us are
 using OO or LO in a business context.

 Therefore, communication on the LibreOffice forum should be in English.
 I think the object we would all agree upon is the need for communication
 which has proved invaluable
 to me as a new user.

 Regards,
 Glenn
 

 From: Luiz Oliveiraluizh...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 16:49:15
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

 Hi,

 Hola,
 Soy Juan Carlos.
 Os envío una hoja de cálculo para que comprobéis lo que me pasa.
 Agrupo imágenes insertadas. Al desagruparlas desaparecen. ¿Por qué?
 Gracias y un saludo

 Messages to this list should be strictly in English!!

 Rgds,


 Luiz Oliveira



 Hi :)

 I think there are different lists for non-english but i do like the
 occasional
 definite reminder that we are a multilingual organisation.
 Regards from
 Tom :)







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[libreoffice-users] Re: Message URL seems to be an unsupported one when importing .sdw files

2011-02-24 Thread NoOp
On 02/24/2011 12:44 AM, seppo wrote:
 
 
 NoOp wrote:
...
 
 Possibly this bug:
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105810
 [SDW from SO3 having table in footer loops import in OOo3]
 I can open the works.sdw without issue in both OOo and LO, but the
 crashes.sdw loops both  I have to kill soffice.bin to get out.

 
 Probably its something else because I get the same error with every .sdw file
 I try to convert with LibreOffice 3.3.1 (same problem with OpenOffice 3.3.0) 
 on Windows XP. The SDW files can be converted without problems on OpenOffice
 3.2.1.
 

Are all of these on Windows? If so you may not have the Legacy Filters
installed. You need to reinstall LO and select 'Custom' and then
'Optional Components':
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/windows/
That link doesn't show the expanded 'Optional Components', but if you
click on it when you get to that screen you will see 'Legacy Filters'.
If there is a red X next to it, click to have it included on the
install/reinstall.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-24 Thread NoOp
On 02/24/2011 07:46 AM, Juan Carlos y Ermitas wrote:
 Hola,
 Soy Juan Carlos.
 Os envío una hoja de cálculo para que comprobéis lo que me pasa.
 Agrupo imágenes insertadas. Al desagruparlas desaparecen. ¿Por qué?
 Gracias y un saludo
 

Juan, you may try a list in your native language, see:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists
[us...@es.libreoffice.org: User support for LibreOffice]

Global mailing list (such as this one) tend to use English (of some form
or another) by default.

Regarding your question:

Spanish to English translation via Google:

 Hello,
 I'm Juan Carlos.
 I send a spreadsheet to prove what I get.
 Grouped images inserted. Ungrouping disappear. Why?
 Thanks and regards

Attachments aren't allowed. You'll need to post the file someplace on
line and provide a link to it.






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[libreoffice-users] Re: Accessing the mailing list

2011-02-24 Thread e-letter
May I suggest to try Eudora open source edition

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[libreoffice-users] Odd files in Help|Contents

2011-02-24 Thread NoOp
In the US English Windows help file (Help|Contents) I get two sections
that appear to be in Hungarian and Danish. Screenshots are here:

http://img607.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp.png/
http://img35.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp2.png/

Help file installed is:
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.3.1/win/x86/LibO_3.3.1_Win_x86_helppack_en-US.exe.mirrorlist

Can anyone else verify the same on a Windows install?

I do not get the same in the linux help file:
http://img132.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelplinux.png/

Speaking of help files; the linux help file order is very different than
the Windows help file order:

Charts...
Macros...
Installation
etc.

vs

Text...
HTML...
Formulas

Why is that?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Accessing the mailing list

2011-02-24 Thread Colin J. Williams
Are you suggesting that Eudora would help the unwilling  subscribers to 
escape?


Colin W.

On 24-Feb-11 18:15 PM, e-letter wrote:

May I suggest to try Eudora open source edition



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[libreoffice-users] [Solved] Re: Odd files in Help|Contents

2011-02-24 Thread NoOp
On 02/24/2011 03:37 PM, NoOp wrote:
 In the US English Windows help file (Help|Contents) I get two sections
 that appear to be in Hungarian and Danish. Screenshots are here:
 
 http://img607.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp.png/
 http://img35.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp2.png/
...
Disregard. I went back and did a reinstall/repair and found that there
were dictionaries installed for just about every language on the planet.
Uninstalled those  only installed English  the Help|Contents no longer
shows those two entries. Sorry for the noise.

Gary


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Odd files in Help|Contents

2011-02-24 Thread Len Philpot
[ From users@libreoffice.org (NoOp) on Thursday, February 24, 2011 ]

 In the US English Windows help file (Help|Contents) I get two sections
 that appear to be in Hungarian and Danish. Screenshots are here:

 http://img607.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp.png/
 http://img35.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp2.png/

 Help file installed is:
 http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.3.1/win/x86/LibO_3.3.1_Win_x86_helppack_en-US.exe.mirrorlist

 Can anyone else verify the same on a Windows install?

Not here, all English AFAICT.

LibreOffice 3.3.1 
OOO330m19 (Build:7)
on Vista

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Solved] Re: Odd files in Help|Contents

2011-02-24 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 00:46, NoOp wrote:
 On 02/24/2011 03:37 PM, NoOp wrote:
 In the US English Windows help file (Help|Contents) I get two sections
 that appear to be in Hungarian and Danish. Screenshots are here:

 http://img607.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp.png/
 http://img35.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp2.png/
 ...
 Disregard. I went back and did a reinstall/repair and found that there
 were dictionaries installed for just about every language on the planet.
 Uninstalled those  only installed English  the Help|Contents no longer
 shows those two entries. Sorry for the noise.

Already reported as →
Bug 33151 - Danish and Hungarian help content, from extensions,
used in other help localizations (Status: NEW)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33151

;-)
mjk

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Odd files in Help|Contents

2011-02-24 Thread Tom Davies






From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 23:37:05
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Odd files in Help|Contents

In the US English Windows help file (Help|Contents) I get two sections
that appear to be in Hungarian and Danish. Screenshots are here:

http://img607.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp.png/
http://img35.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp2.png/

Help file installed is:
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.3.1/win/x86/LibO_3.3.1_Win_x86_helppack_en-US.exe.mirrorlist


Can anyone else verify the same on a Windows install?

I do not get the same in the linux help file:
http://img132.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelplinux.png/

Speaking of help files; the linux help file order is very different than
the Windows help file order:

Charts...
Macros...
Installation
etc.

vs

Text...
HTML...
Formulas

Why is that?


Hi :)
Similar problem in OpenOffice 3.2.  The default install seemed to include 
several languages i don't know but trying to remove them ended up using MORE 
space.  Weird result so i am going to retry next Thursday on that machine, 
maybe.
Regards from
Tom :)



  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

2011-02-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Translations done by humans that understand the target language are really the 
only way to get a useful result.  I would guess that sometimes 
machine-translators help but often MTs generate confusion or amusement rather 
than good answers - even despite recent dramatic steps forwards in MTs.

Luckily this Office Suite has been around for over 10years AND it has a huge 
international, multilingual community.  The Suite has changed names 2 times in 
the last decade with a few people from the community continuing under the old 
name each time.  Even those left behind continue to help this project and TDF 
tries to share good results with them too.

Brazilian-Portuguese has at least 2 fairly massive communities and i think 1 of 
them even gets funding to help with marketing, support, development and 
translations.  German and Italian teams are also strong.  Pardus (one 
government's operating system (a linux desktop distro)) was one of the first 
adopters of LibreOffice.  Most other countries that fund development of their 
own linux desktop distros already have (or soon will (probably)) adopt LO too.

Translations are NOT a trivial issue but LibreOffice has support from several 
large organisations (RedHat, Canonical, Ubuntu-community etc) and even some 
support from various governments.  It does seem that LibreOffice builds a lot 
from voluntary work and highly values even small contributions from volunteers 
but there are other factors bolstering that.  Always good to see someone new 
join, so welcome in :)

I still don't know the original problem but hopefully you have been able to 
copypaste it to an appropriate NL Team's support mailing list.
Good luck and many regards from
Tom :)






From: Helmar tuc...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 19:23:20
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

Helmar Fernandes
===
Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat user
www.aquahobby.com
www.penguim.net/pocosdecaldas



On 24 February 2011 15:42, Glenn glenns...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tom and Luis,

 I forgot about the many translations of LibreOffice out there.  But I don't
 think there is a version
 in Portugese currently available; however, I discussed the issue of
 additional translations
 with a friend several days ago - before this issue was even posted.


I Glenn  yes there is a version of LibreOffice in Portuguese but
if you´re referring to Portuguese from Portugal the answer is I dont know...
I´m talking about Brazilian Portuguese
(PT-BRhttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PT-BR/)
which is different from the PT that refers to all other places where the
portuguese language is spoken...

And I´m proud to say that we are one of the most active LibreOffice
communities all around the world.
If you want you can take a look at our
magazinehttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/PT-BR/Revista.

 He said providing a version of s/w in another language was fairly easy: you
 only have to
 understand the language you are translating from and the one you want to
 translate to
 for verification of the translation.

 He tells me that there are packages readily available to automate the
 translation.  He
 says that this is probably how other, non-English versions have been made
 available
 for LibreOffice.  Some minor editing  may be required and, according to
 him, they are mainly
 limited to using abbreviations in order to fit the field.

 So there seems to be a solution already available!  That is a good thing!

 Regards,
 Glenn


 On 2/24/11 12:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)

 English is the only language i understand although sometimes i can
 understand
 american geek too.  Still, there are so many machine translators available
 that
 the need to stick rigorously to 1 single language seems a bit out-dated
 even for
 people like me.  It probably is best to stick with american or English in
 this
 list but accidents happen and they remind us that TDF is greater than we
 are
 normally aware of.  To err is human but feels devine

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: Glennglenns...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 17:35:07
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problema agrupar-desagrupar datos

 On 2/24/11 12:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Tom   Luis,

 I hesitatingly agree.  Spanish is a language used by many people all
 over the world but so is Mandarin;
 however, English is the most common language used by int'l businesses
 and many of us are
 using OO or LO in a business context.

 Therefore, communication on the LibreOffice forum should be in English.
 I think the object we would all agree upon is the need for communication
 which has proved invaluable
 to me as a new user.

 Regards,
 Glenn
 

 From: Luiz Oliveiraluizh...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 24 February, 2011 16:49:15
 Subject: Re: 

[libreoffice-users] Re: [Solved] Re: Odd files in Help|Contents

2011-02-24 Thread NoOp
On 02/24/2011 04:54 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 00:46, NoOp wrote:
 On 02/24/2011 03:37 PM, NoOp wrote:
 In the US English Windows help file (Help|Contents) I get two sections
 that appear to be in Hungarian and Danish. Screenshots are here:

 http://img607.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp.png/
 http://img35.imageshack.us/f/libreofficehelpwinxp2.png/
 ...
 Disregard. I went back and did a reinstall/repair and found that there
 were dictionaries installed for just about every language on the planet.
 Uninstalled those  only installed English  the Help|Contents no longer
 shows those two entries. Sorry for the noise.
 
 Already reported as →
 Bug 33151 - Danish and Hungarian help content, from extensions,
 used in other help localizations (Status: NEW)
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33151

Ah. Thanks Manfred :-)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill cells with hatched lines/patterns

2011-02-24 Thread Scott Jones
How do I use my own picture as a background?

On Feb 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Sigrid Carrera
sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Scott,

 On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:19:43 -0500
 Scott Jones srjone...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a way to Fill cells in LO Calc with hatched lines/patterns?

 I could have sworn, that there is such a possibility in the Format  Cell 
 menu. But when I checked I couldn't find a tab where you can define your own 
 patterns (like dashed lines) to put into the background of a cell.

 Maybe I mix it up with another software (very likely).

 You can use your own pictures for the background. So if you need such a 
 pattern, why not make it yourself? I have no idea, if this is a good idea at 
 all, or how much work it takes... it just crossed my mind.

 Sigrid


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Re: [libreoffice-users] comments are disappearing

2011-02-24 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from John McAtee jlm_connect...@yahoo.com on Wed, 23
Feb 2011 18:56:53 -0800 (PST)

Comments at end.

 List
  
 I created a file in LO called TEST with a comment and saved as xlsx.
  
 I used 7zip to unzip the TEST.xlsx file and found that it created a folder
 called test with three folders inside one of which is called xl.  In the xl
 folder there is an xml document called comments1.  When I opened the file in
 my browser it had the xml code that listed the cell reference and comment
 associated with that cell.
  
 That seems to answer the question. I certainly hope this helps because I too
 use Calc spreadsheets as a grade book for students and understand the panic
 this problem could create.
  
 John McAtee
 
 
 From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Cc: Andy convenientpark...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] comments are disappearing
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 Andy wrote (23-02-11 21:59)
  I've been using LibreOffice for a couple months now to grade student's 
  papers,
  to which I append ample comments. I've just discovered that when I save the
  document in Microsoft 2007 format and then open it up again, all the 
  comments
  I've written disappear. I know now to not use this format any more, but 
  I've now
  lost comments for about 25 papers. Is there any way to retrieve them?
 
 When you worked on the document for some time, sure there will be a backup in
 the original .odt format? (Saving as .doc does not replace the .odt).
 
 That would be the best solution, IMO.
 
 Best regards,
 Cor

I've just tried it with LO 3.3.1 and the comments are saved in both cases,
i.e. saving as .ods or as .xlsx. I did find that I had to save the
spreadsheet after adding/editing comments or they would not be saved. Of
course that is to be expected, but I verified it so am mentioning it here.

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[libreoffice-users] Calc trumps Excel

2011-02-24 Thread T. R. Valentine
Thought I'd share an interesting experience.

I've been trying to use Office 2007 at my new job. (It is a bit of a
struggle. I'd rather use Office 2003.)

I imported a tab-delimited file into Excel without a problem. One of
the fields was in MM/DD/ HH:MM tt format. I wanted to divide the
one field into a -MM-DD field and an H:MM field. Excel could NOT
do it. It could separate the fields, but Excel *insisted* they had to
be text fields (with the apostrophe mark in front). Neither the VALUE
nor the DATEVALUE fields worked.

After several minutes of being stymied, I installed LO and launched
Calc. The same formulas that didn't work in Excel, worked in Calc just
as I wanted.

So score one for Calc being able to do the job when Excel failed miserably.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Accessing the mailing list

2011-02-24 Thread Ken Springer

On 2011-02-24 16:15:03 -0700, e-letter said:


May I suggest to try Eudora open source edition


I've been using Eudora OSE for 3-4 months.  But editing the orignal 
message when replying isn't all that easy, things are erased that you 
don't expect or want to erase.  So, you have to back up.


When I was a Windows user, Eudora was my favorite email client, and 
then Qualcomm dropped further development.  I switched to Outlook.


So, now I'm trying Thunderbird, primarily because I can use it as a 
newsgroup reader.  But, I've not decided to go or stay with Tbird as of 
yet.



Ken



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