[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-24 Thread Ken Springer

On 4/24/11 3:40 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I would like to add this to the North American Community DVD in our
Documentation page[s].

http://libreoffice-na.us/ opening page for project

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html Win/Mac/Linux DVD
documentation page
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/documentation.html Windows only
DVD documentation page


I've tried for the last two hours, and get a server connection reset in 
FireFox, as well as Safari.  :-(



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Re: [libreoffice-users] menu items with ~

2011-04-24 Thread Wayne Borean
Have you tried installing a different language pack to confirm then, say
German since it's very closer to Dutch in form and syntax than English. And
since the problem doesn't seem to exist in English - it does sound like you
are right and it's a language pack issue.

Which shouldn't be a huge problem to fix. I think the language packs can be
edited using LO itself, and the updated language pack submitted to the
project as a fix.

Wayne



On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Guy Voets  wrote:

> Hi Wayne,
>
> I changed the screen resolution to 1024x768, even to 680x400, but the
> tildes remain.
> Could it be because of the Dutch version I use? ... checking ... Yes
> it is a bug (or feature?) in the Dutch LangPack... Si I'll post this
> at the NL list.
> Thanks for helping me find out.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cursor focus on reopening file

2011-04-24 Thread Libre User

Jean-Francois,

Thank you very much indeed.

I filled in the name fields in the personal 
information. Closed the file I was working on and 
closed LO.  Reopened LO and reopened the file and 
voila, it reopen the file at the saved location.


This certainly is not obvious and I don't think I 
would have ever made the connection.


Thank you again.

Jerry

 At 03:09 PM 4/24/2011, you wrote:


Hi,

Le 24/04/2011 21:28, Libre User a écrit :


Help! Is the problem with my OS settings? (I can't be sure that the Win7
settings are the same on both Win7 computers.) Something different
between HP Win7 and Dell Win7? Or is it something in my configuration of
LO? If so, is there a configuration setting I can change? Or was there
an upgrade to LO that was somehow installed on my computer?

Current LO version is listed as:

LibreOffice 3.3.0
OOO330m19 (Build:6)
tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4


Did you set you personal information in the Options dialog?

This is known to generate the behaviour you're meeting when they are not set.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office

2011-04-24 Thread planas
On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 17:57 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote: 

> On 04/24/2011 02:21 PM, Twayne wrote:
> > The OP here sounds like no more than sour grapes to me based on his mostly
> > wanting a free copy of MSO. LiberOffice is new and is NOT meant to simply
> > replace MS Office.
> I call LibreOffice an alternative to MSO, not a direct replacement.  
> Just like laptops are used at times instead of desktops, but there are 
> very few laptops that have the power and graphics [and heat 
> displacement] to replace most modern desktops.  So we need to use 
> "alternative to" instead of "replacement for" when we describe 
> LibreOffice and MSO.
> 
> 
> > There also seems to be a lot of pressure albeit indirect,
> > to dispense with OO and LO meaning a myopic view of the world of office
> ??? dispense with both OO and LO ???  I think that OO will die on its 
> own with Oracle dropping out of developing and supporting it.  The key 
> will be if they sell the OOo name and trademark to some greedy company 
> or turn it over to the community that supports OOo.  This Oracle 
> "dropping out" is one of the big reasons for LibreOffice being created 
> in the first place.
> > suites, or a very staunch of MS. All those are fine but his stated views are
> > pretty mixed up meaning he should take a step back and get a look at the
> > forests instead of a few individual trees.  MSOffice # OOo or LO. MSO is
> > simply a large target area for LO/OO.
> >
> > In news:BANLkTi=o7YGpy03DyY8b+7K1sh_ao3A=3...@mail.gmail.com,
> > e-letter  typed:
>  A business that receives profits from customers that
>  demand to use M$
> >>> software should simply pay the licences to meet their
> >>> customers' demands and consider it a cost of doing
> >>> business.
> > Software does not "pay the license" in any way you could look at it.
> > Licenses are for users to know what can/cannot be done with the software.
> > Those are choices the OP must live with as they won't be written to
> > accomodate only him.
> >
> >>> I can't tell which of the following statements you mean:
> > ...
> >>> position, and use Microsoft products;
> >>>
> >> None, the example scenario is a customer (in any
> >> business, not necessarily IT) sends a document in m$ word
> >> and the recipient decides
> >> to use LO but finds that there is (minor?) loss of
> >> formatting (e.g. a table width greater than the body text
> >> margin), then writes to LO mailing list to complain that
> >> LO writer is not good enough for their needs. In this
> >> scenario, the business using LO should pay for an m$
> >> licence to use m$ software in their business and not use
> >> LO at all.
> > Yes. It's a matter of using what fits one's own specific needs and wants. If
> > the OP is in a position where he must make such decisions, he needs to be
> > asking for a transfer from the sound of it.
> >
> >> LO should concentrate on the scenario that both a
> >> business customer
> >> and supplier are _both_ using LO software and when
> >> documents are exchanged, the documents produced and
> >> received using LO software are found to be of good
> >> quality (i.e. no bugs).
> > LO should concentrate on whatever path appears to be the most lucrative
> > based on what is viewed as the desired future for the product. As in, read
> > their Mission Statement for such information; it'll clarify better than can
> > be done here.
> >
> >> It is not fair for LO to be expected to be an exact clone
> >> of m$ products.
> > Exactly! Nor is it expected to be an exact clone of any other product such
> > as the WordPerfect capabilities, PDF, and a host of others. The expectation
> > is to meet or exceed the needs of the largest set of users as is possible.
> > Being a clone of MSO would not accomplish that.
> >
>  Any business using open source software to generate a
>  private profit should put their money where their mouth
>  is;
> > That's a senseless and meaningless paragraph that only the OP is likely
> > aware of what it means.
> >
> >>> a) Do you know how many employees the "average" business
> >>> in the united states has?
> > That's irrelevant.
> >
> >> Don't understand the significance.
> >>
> >>> b) Do you have any idea how difficult it was for non-Sun
> >>> clients to get features and functions added to OOo?
> > Well, if you were contributing to the development and marketing of OOo or LO
> > in any meaningful way, you would understand that better. YOUR wants&  needs
> > are not necessarily even close to what the majority needs/wants. You seem to
> > have taken a completely personal, egotistical approach to things here and
> > it's not helping whatever point it is you wish to make.
> >
> >> No, but presumably this justifies the creation of LO.
> >>
> >>> c) Do you have any idea what the learning curve involved
> >>> in knowing how to code for OOo was/is?
> > I have a smattering of a feeling for it. Some parts are trivial, some are
> > complex, and some are bugg

Re: [libreoffice-users] Cursor focus on reopening file

2011-04-24 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker


Hi,

Le 24/04/2011 21:28, Libre User a écrit :


Help! Is the problem with my OS settings? (I can't be sure that the Win7
settings are the same on both Win7 computers.) Something different
between HP Win7 and Dell Win7? Or is it something in my configuration of
LO? If so, is there a configuration setting I can change? Or was there
an upgrade to LO that was somehow installed on my computer?

Current LO version is listed as:

LibreOffice 3.3.0
OOO330m19 (Build:6)
tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4



Did you set you personal information in the Options dialog?

This is known to generate the behaviour you're meeting when they are not 
set.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office

2011-04-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 04/24/2011 02:21 PM, Twayne wrote:

The OP here sounds like no more than sour grapes to me based on his mostly
wanting a free copy of MSO. LiberOffice is new and is NOT meant to simply
replace MS Office.
I call LibreOffice an alternative to MSO, not a direct replacement.  
Just like laptops are used at times instead of desktops, but there are 
very few laptops that have the power and graphics [and heat 
displacement] to replace most modern desktops.  So we need to use 
"alternative to" instead of "replacement for" when we describe 
LibreOffice and MSO.




There also seems to be a lot of pressure albeit indirect,
to dispense with OO and LO meaning a myopic view of the world of office
??? dispense with both OO and LO ???  I think that OO will die on its 
own with Oracle dropping out of developing and supporting it.  The key 
will be if they sell the OOo name and trademark to some greedy company 
or turn it over to the community that supports OOo.  This Oracle 
"dropping out" is one of the big reasons for LibreOffice being created 
in the first place.

suites, or a very staunch of MS. All those are fine but his stated views are
pretty mixed up meaning he should take a step back and get a look at the
forests instead of a few individual trees.  MSOffice # OOo or LO. MSO is
simply a large target area for LO/OO.

In news:BANLkTi=o7YGpy03DyY8b+7K1sh_ao3A=3...@mail.gmail.com,
e-letter  typed:

A business that receives profits from customers that
demand to use M$

software should simply pay the licences to meet their
customers' demands and consider it a cost of doing
business.

Software does not "pay the license" in any way you could look at it.
Licenses are for users to know what can/cannot be done with the software.
Those are choices the OP must live with as they won't be written to
accomodate only him.


I can't tell which of the following statements you mean:

...

position, and use Microsoft products;


None, the example scenario is a customer (in any
business, not necessarily IT) sends a document in m$ word
and the recipient decides
to use LO but finds that there is (minor?) loss of
formatting (e.g. a table width greater than the body text
margin), then writes to LO mailing list to complain that
LO writer is not good enough for their needs. In this
scenario, the business using LO should pay for an m$
licence to use m$ software in their business and not use
LO at all.

Yes. It's a matter of using what fits one's own specific needs and wants. If
the OP is in a position where he must make such decisions, he needs to be
asking for a transfer from the sound of it.


LO should concentrate on the scenario that both a
business customer
and supplier are _both_ using LO software and when
documents are exchanged, the documents produced and
received using LO software are found to be of good
quality (i.e. no bugs).

LO should concentrate on whatever path appears to be the most lucrative
based on what is viewed as the desired future for the product. As in, read
their Mission Statement for such information; it'll clarify better than can
be done here.


It is not fair for LO to be expected to be an exact clone
of m$ products.

Exactly! Nor is it expected to be an exact clone of any other product such
as the WordPerfect capabilities, PDF, and a host of others. The expectation
is to meet or exceed the needs of the largest set of users as is possible.
Being a clone of MSO would not accomplish that.


Any business using open source software to generate a
private profit should put their money where their mouth
is;

That's a senseless and meaningless paragraph that only the OP is likely
aware of what it means.


a) Do you know how many employees the "average" business
in the united states has?

That's irrelevant.


Don't understand the significance.


b) Do you have any idea how difficult it was for non-Sun
clients to get features and functions added to OOo?

Well, if you were contributing to the development and marketing of OOo or LO
in any meaningful way, you would understand that better. YOUR wants&  needs
are not necessarily even close to what the majority needs/wants. You seem to
have taken a completely personal, egotistical approach to things here and
it's not helping whatever point it is you wish to make.


No, but presumably this justifies the creation of LO.


c) Do you have any idea what the learning curve involved
in knowing how to code for OOo was/is?

I have a smattering of a feeling for it. Some parts are trivial, some are
complex, and some are buggy. I would assume that anyone taking on a coder
would mean that coder already has the needed background on his own or he's
not going to be taken very seriously. LO is not a learn-to-code project,
it's something entirely different. This is one of the advantages of open
source; the many can contrubute and the best chosen as the way to go.


No, not qualified to comment.


Those three factors mitigated against organizations that
were not in the IT industry from even consi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 04/24/2011 12:30 AM, parichaycomputer wrote:

Dear Documentation Team,
i already finish the writer tutorial for novice to advance learners. I have
an alfresco account. Please guide me about the following points:

a) Can i upload it in alfresco account? Is it visible to all?
b) How can i get the valuable suggestions from libreoffice documentation
team about my tutorial.
c) How can i know that the tutorials are accepted by the libreoffice?

Thank you for reading my letter with patience.

With Regards,
Parichay Chakrabarti

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I would like to add this to the North American Community DVD in our 
Documentation page[s].


http://libreoffice-na.us/  opening page for project

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation.html  Win/Mac/Linux DVD 
documentation page
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-Windows/documentation.html  Windows 
only DVD documentation page


http://libreoffice-na.us/Spanish/index.html  Spanish 
version - Win/Mac/Linux pages
http://libreoffice-na.us/Spanish-Windows/index.htmlSpanish version - 
Windows only pages




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[libreoffice-users] Cursor focus on reopening file

2011-04-24 Thread Libre User

I have a problem that I hope this group can help me with.

Simply stated, I work with very large documents, some in excess of 
100 pages.  They are either created in odt format or converted from 
doc or docx to odt when I get them.  While working with these 
documents, if I save the file and then close it, it reopens at the 
beginning of the file, not at point in the document where I stopped 
working and saved it.  To find my previous stopping point, I 
generally insert a string of "x's" so that I can find my stopping 
point but sometimes I forget.  LO did not do this on 2 other 
computers that I used previously.  OO did not do this originally 
either but the problem appeared with v. 3.


I have recently had to move to a new laptop computer. This problem 
did not happen with LO installations on my 2 previous laptops.  The 
first one, an HP running MS Vista and the second, an HP running 
Windows 7.  The Vista laptop had this problem with OO v. 3 but it 
disappeared with the initial installation of LO. When the HP Vista 
laptop failed, LO was installed on a new HP laptop running Win7 and 
it always opened my files at the previous save point.  LO was 
installed clean (from the same saved installation file that I used on 
the Vista computer) on the Win7 laptop and the problem did not 
occur.  That new Win7 laptop was unsatisfactory, it was returned and 
replaced with the current Dell Win7 and again LO was installed from 
the original LO download.  Now the odt files no longer open at the 
previous save point.



Help!  Is the problem with my OS settings? (I can't be sure that the 
Win7 settings are the same on both Win7 computers.)  Something 
different between HP Win7 and Dell Win7? Or is it something in my 
configuration of LO? If so, is there a configuration setting I can 
change? Or was there an upgrade to LO that was somehow installed on 
my computer?


Current LO version is listed as:

LibreOffice 3.3.0
OOO330m19 (Build:6)
tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4

Jerry 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-24 Thread David Nelson
Hi Wayne, :-)

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 19:34, Wayne Borean  wrote:
> It's nice that you answered his questions in the Documentation mailing list,
> however us users also have an interest.

Oh, sure, OK. You can read the thread at [1]. Please feel free to ask
any questions you want.

[1] 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/application-for-document-writer-td2831277.html

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: ODF format validity

2011-04-24 Thread Carlo Strata



Il 24/04/2011 20:04, NoOp ha scritto:

On 04/24/2011 01:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:

Le 23/04/2011 11:00, Milos Sramek a écrit :

Dňa 22.04.2011 23:44, Wayne Borean  wrote / napísal(a):

What file?

Send copy as attachment.

It looks like that all tests, presented at
http://www.officeshots.org/galleries, fail because of a single issue. It
can be seen also in the attached file a. odf. This is the log from
http://tools.odftoolkit.org/odfvalidator/:


 Result for a.odt

This file is NOT valid

Result details:

upload:///a.odt:Info:ODF Version: 1.2


Perhaps the problem is there : change default ODF version used by your
LibreOffice and try again.
Menu Tools>  Options>  Load/Save>  General


I ran a few tests as well at http://tools.odftoolkit.org/odfvalidator/
I created a single document with LO 3.3.2, Ubuntu OOo 3.2, Standard OOo
3.3.0, and Standard OOo-Dev (3.4.0). All failed with 1.2 extended with
the exception of OOo-Dev (3.4.0).

With OOo-Dev 3.4.0:
ODF Validator Result Page
Result for OOoDev34_odftTest.odt

This file is valid

Errors whith LO 3.3.2, Ubuntu OOo 3.2, and Standard OOo 3.3.0, were
consistent 'Error:element "manifest:manifest" is missing "version"
attribute':

upload:///LO332_odfTest.odt/META-INF/manifest.xml[2,88]:Error:element
"manifest:manifest" is missing "version" attribute
upload:///LO332_odfTest.odt:Info:Generator: LibreOffice/3.3$Linux
LibreOffice_project/330m19$Build-202
Result details:

upload:///SOOo330_odfTest.odt/META-INF/manifest.xml[2,88]:Error:element
"manifest:manifest" is missing "version" attribute
upload:///SOOo330_odfTest.odt:Info:Generator: OpenOffice.org/3.3$Linux
OpenOffice.org_project/330m20$Build-9567

When changing the format to 1.0/1.1:
ODF Validator Result Page
Result for LO332_odfTest_ODF1.odt

This file is valid

and

ODF Validator Result Page
Result for SOOo330_odfTest_ODF1.odt

This file is valid


Note:

1.2 (not extended) fails on all as well - with the exception of OOo-Dev
(3.4.0). Also, I first tested a Word97 document that I'd used in a bug
report (saved as odt) and that doc carries over a style that the odf
test doesn't like:
upload:///Word97Test_wLO.odt/META-INF/manifest.xml[2,88]:Error:element
"manifest:manifest" is missing "version" attribute
upload:///Word97Test_wLO.odt/styles.xml[2,12196]:Error:unexpected
attribute "style:layout-grid-snap-to-characters"
upload:///Word97Test_wLO.odt:Info:Generator: LibreOffice/3.3$Linux
LibreOffice_project/330m19$Build-202

This file is NOT valid

Result details:

upload:///Word97Test_OOoDev.odt/styles.xml[2,12124]:Error:unexpected
attribute "style:layout-grid-snap-to-characters"
upload:///Word97Test_OOoDev.odt:Info:Generator: OOo-dev/3.4$Linux
OpenOffice.org_project/340m0$Build-9583

so I recommend testing using just a cleanly generated file (like I did
afterwards) for the tests.




Very interesting results... we have to deal with them as soon as possible...

If Libò 3.4.0 will be merged again with the last OOo 3.4.0 commits 
without loosing all the code cleaning (Code Hacks) efforts we could have 
the same "The file is valid" also for Libò 3.4.0.


Happy Easter evening,

Carlo

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice VS MS Office

2011-04-24 Thread Twayne
The OP here sounds like no more than sour grapes to me based on his mostly 
wanting a free copy of MSO. LiberOffice is new and is NOT meant to simply 
replace MS Office. There also seems to be a lot of pressure albeit indirect, 
to dispense with OO and LO meaning a myopic view of the world of office 
suites, or a very staunch of MS. All those are fine but his stated views are 
pretty mixed up meaning he should take a step back and get a look at the 
forests instead of a few individual trees.  MSOffice # OOo or LO. MSO is 
simply a large target area for LO/OO.

In news:BANLkTi=o7YGpy03DyY8b+7K1sh_ao3A=3...@mail.gmail.com,
e-letter  typed:
>>> A business that receives profits from customers that
>>> demand to use M$
>> software should simply pay the licences to meet their
>> customers' demands and consider it a cost of doing
>> business.

Software does not "pay the license" in any way you could look at it. 
Licenses are for users to know what can/cannot be done with the software. 
Those are choices the OP must live with as they won't be written to 
accomodate only him.

>>
>> I can't tell which of the following statements you mean:

...
>> position, and use Microsoft products;
>>
>
> None, the example scenario is a customer (in any
> business, not necessarily IT) sends a document in m$ word
> and the recipient decides
> to use LO but finds that there is (minor?) loss of
> formatting (e.g. a table width greater than the body text
> margin), then writes to LO mailing list to complain that
> LO writer is not good enough for their needs. In this
> scenario, the business using LO should pay for an m$
> licence to use m$ software in their business and not use
> LO at all.

Yes. It's a matter of using what fits one's own specific needs and wants. If 
the OP is in a position where he must make such decisions, he needs to be 
asking for a transfer from the sound of it.

>
> LO should concentrate on the scenario that both a
> business customer
> and supplier are _both_ using LO software and when
> documents are exchanged, the documents produced and
> received using LO software are found to be of good
> quality (i.e. no bugs).

LO should concentrate on whatever path appears to be the most lucrative 
based on what is viewed as the desired future for the product. As in, read 
their Mission Statement for such information; it'll clarify better than can 
be done here.

>
> It is not fair for LO to be expected to be an exact clone
> of m$ products.

Exactly! Nor is it expected to be an exact clone of any other product such 
as the WordPerfect capabilities, PDF, and a host of others. The expectation 
is to meet or exceed the needs of the largest set of users as is possible. 
Being a clone of MSO would not accomplish that.

>
>>> Any business using open source software to generate a
>>> private profit should put their money where their mouth
>>> is;

That's a senseless and meaningless paragraph that only the OP is likely 
aware of what it means.

>>
>> a) Do you know how many employees the "average" business
>> in the united states has?

That's irrelevant.

>
> Don't understand the significance.
>
>> b) Do you have any idea how difficult it was for non-Sun
>> clients to get features and functions added to OOo?

Well, if you were contributing to the development and marketing of OOo or LO 
in any meaningful way, you would understand that better. YOUR wants & needs 
are not necessarily even close to what the majority needs/wants. You seem to 
have taken a completely personal, egotistical approach to things here and 
it's not helping whatever point it is you wish to make.

>
> No, but presumably this justifies the creation of LO.
>
>> c) Do you have any idea what the learning curve involved
>> in knowing how to code for OOo was/is?

I have a smattering of a feeling for it. Some parts are trivial, some are 
complex, and some are buggy. I would assume that anyone taking on a coder 
would mean that coder already has the needed background on his own or he's 
not going to be taken very seriously. LO is not a learn-to-code project, 
it's something entirely different. This is one of the advantages of open 
source; the many can contrubute and the best chosen as the way to go.

>>
>
> No, not qualified to comment.
>
>> Those three factors mitigated against organizations that
>> were not in the IT industry from even considering
>> customizations of OOo, much less paying for them.

This is irrelevant to the development of OOo/LO and those three factors have 
so little to do with it that it almost makes me laugh. I certainly had to 
smile smugly at this post when I first read the misinformative little rage.

>>
>
> Is it not true that organisations are not able to get
> customisations
> of m$o unless they pay m$ and/or m$ partners to make such
> changes?

I believe that is true, and it takes deep pockets for the most part to 
create such unique and specialized ware. Usually changes are going to be 
made by third parties as the originators are

[libreoffice-users] Re: ODF format validity

2011-04-24 Thread NoOp
On 04/24/2011 01:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> Le 23/04/2011 11:00, Milos Sramek a écrit :
>> Dňa 22.04.2011 23:44, Wayne Borean  wrote / napísal(a):
>>> What file?
>>>
>>> Send copy as attachment.
>> It looks like that all tests, presented at
>> http://www.officeshots.org/galleries, fail because of a single issue. It
>> can be seen also in the attached file a. odf. This is the log from
>> http://tools.odftoolkit.org/odfvalidator/:
>> 
>> 
>> Result for a.odt
>> 
>> This file is NOT valid
>> 
>> Result details:
>> 
>> upload:///a.odt:Info:ODF Version: 1.2
> 
> Perhaps the problem is there : change default ODF version used by your
> LibreOffice and try again.
> Menu Tools > Options > Load/Save > General

I ran a few tests as well at http://tools.odftoolkit.org/odfvalidator/
I created a single document with LO 3.3.2, Ubuntu OOo 3.2, Standard OOo
3.3.0, and Standard OOo-Dev (3.4.0). All failed with 1.2 extended with
the exception of OOo-Dev (3.4.0).

With OOo-Dev 3.4.0:
ODF Validator Result Page
Result for OOoDev34_odftTest.odt

This file is valid

Errors whith LO 3.3.2, Ubuntu OOo 3.2, and Standard OOo 3.3.0, were
consistent 'Error:element "manifest:manifest" is missing "version"
attribute':

upload:///LO332_odfTest.odt/META-INF/manifest.xml[2,88]:Error:element
"manifest:manifest" is missing "version" attribute
upload:///LO332_odfTest.odt:Info:Generator: LibreOffice/3.3$Linux
LibreOffice_project/330m19$Build-202
Result details:

upload:///SOOo330_odfTest.odt/META-INF/manifest.xml[2,88]:Error:element
"manifest:manifest" is missing "version" attribute
upload:///SOOo330_odfTest.odt:Info:Generator: OpenOffice.org/3.3$Linux
OpenOffice.org_project/330m20$Build-9567

When changing the format to 1.0/1.1:
ODF Validator Result Page
Result for LO332_odfTest_ODF1.odt

This file is valid

and

ODF Validator Result Page
Result for SOOo330_odfTest_ODF1.odt

This file is valid


Note:

1.2 (not extended) fails on all as well - with the exception of OOo-Dev
(3.4.0). Also, I first tested a Word97 document that I'd used in a bug
report (saved as odt) and that doc carries over a style that the odf
test doesn't like:
upload:///Word97Test_wLO.odt/META-INF/manifest.xml[2,88]:Error:element
"manifest:manifest" is missing "version" attribute
upload:///Word97Test_wLO.odt/styles.xml[2,12196]:Error:unexpected
attribute "style:layout-grid-snap-to-characters"
upload:///Word97Test_wLO.odt:Info:Generator: LibreOffice/3.3$Linux
LibreOffice_project/330m19$Build-202

This file is NOT valid

Result details:

upload:///Word97Test_OOoDev.odt/styles.xml[2,12124]:Error:unexpected
attribute "style:layout-grid-snap-to-characters"
upload:///Word97Test_OOoDev.odt:Info:Generator: OOo-dev/3.4$Linux
OpenOffice.org_project/340m0$Build-9583

so I recommend testing using just a cleanly generated file (like I did
afterwards) for the tests.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Difficulty with Page Up, Page Down, and scrolling

2011-04-24 Thread Libre User
I have been using a Logitech Trackball without problems with both 
OpenOffice and then with LibreOffice.


My suggestion is that first you go to the Logitech web site and 
download the latest drivers for the trackball.  After installing the 
new driver, go to Control Panel --->Mouse Settings.  You should be 
able to select what operation you want each button and the wheel to 
do.  My wife's computer has XP and when she installed a Logitech 
Wheel Mouse, we had to reset the operation of the wheel so that it 
did not scroll an entire page with each click of the wheel.


Jerry


At 10:15 PM 4/23/2011, you wrote:

Hi --
I switched from OpenOffice to LibreOffice  when I read the 
claim that Libre code seems better and tighter than Open.
I had some favorite pointer devices (called Felix (Latin for 
"cat") rather than mouse -- but these got worn out. Then someone 
gave me a used Logitech trackball, which I can also use without 
destroying my wrists.


With LibreOffice 3.3.0 and the three-button trackball, the 
Writer program rather quickly became non-functional. If I clicked 
on the Page Up or Page Down, or with the trackball, the program 
would not jump to the new position. Instead, it would "scroll" one 
line a second, keeping the rest of the computer paralyzed, until it 
had moved by a whole page. Clicking in the "elevator" to go up or 
down on the page similarly scrolled in this impaired slow motion. I 
can't work -- write papers -- under such conditions.


I have no idea how to go about fixing this problem. I can't 
write or edit papers with LibreOffice, with this problem -- which 
leaves me using Microsoft Word (which I would rather not do).


My operating system: Windows XP Professional (or UberStudent 
distribution of Ubuntu Linux, which I have little skill in using, so far.)
I don't know just what other information someone better with 
computers than I might want.


Please tell/show me how to fix this problem.
Andy Hilgartner

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Re: [libreoffice-users] menu items with ~

2011-04-24 Thread Guy Voets
Hi Wayne,

I changed the screen resolution to 1024x768, even to 680x400, but the
tildes remain.
Could it be because of the Dutch version I use? ... checking ... Yes
it is a bug (or feature?) in the Dutch LangPack... Si I'll post this
at the NL list.
Thanks for helping me find out.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-24 Thread Ken Springer

On 4/24/11 2:08 AM, David Nelson wrote:

Hi Parichay, :-)

I answered these questions in your message on the documentation mailing list.

David Nelson


On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:30, parichaycomputer  wrote:

Dear Documentation Team,
i already finish the writer tutorial for novice to advance learners. I have
an alfresco account. Please guide me about the following points:

a) Can i upload it in alfresco account? Is it visible to all?
b) How can i get the valuable suggestions from libreoffice documentation
team about my tutorial.
c) How can i know that the tutorials are accepted by the libreoffice?

Thank you for reading my letter with patience.

With Regards,
Parichay Chakrabarti





I have to agree with Wayne's post about the manual.  I'd download it in 
a heart beat if I knew where to find it.


I've got the OO manual, and at best I was disappointed in it.  For me, 
it was mostly useless.  :-(



I'd appreciate it if you would post a link to it.


There is a Mac customized version of Open Office called NeoOffice.  A 
couple of users created a manual for NeoOffice, and it's better IMO than 
the Open Office manual.  It can be found here: 
http://neowiki.neooffice.org/index.php/Documentation_and_Related_Resources 
 The page talks a lot about the manual being for version 2, but when 
you download it, the title page says it's been updated for version 3.


It's still not as comprehensive as I would like to see.

This was my first office package on my Mac, other than iWork that came 
with the system, and my first exposure to Open Office and others.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-24 Thread Wayne Borean
David,

It's nice that you answered his questions in the Documentation mailing list,
however us users also have an interest. Documentation was always one of
OpenOffice's weak points. It supposedly existed. Trying to find it on the
website was an exercise in frustration. In fact I got a hell of a lot more
help out of Google than I ever got out o the OO.ORG site.

That this discussion was taking place here where the users could see it, was
damned useful. At least we knew someone was working on something, and I was
going to write a short (100 word) blurb about it and link to it when it went
live. Do it in the Documentation list, which I don't follow (I can only
follow so many lists per day) and that won't happen.

So think. Do you want to have the discussion where no one will see it, and
post the documentation where now one will know where it is?

Wayne



On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 4:08 AM, David Nelson wrote:

> Hi Parichay, :-)
>
> I answered these questions in your message on the documentation mailing
> list.
>
> David Nelson
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:30, parichaycomputer 
> wrote:
> > Dear Documentation Team,
> > i already finish the writer tutorial for novice to advance learners. I
> have
> > an alfresco account. Please guide me about the following points:
> >
> > a) Can i upload it in alfresco account? Is it visible to all?
> > b) How can i get the valuable suggestions from libreoffice documentation
> > team about my tutorial.
> > c) How can i know that the tutorials are accepted by the libreoffice?
> >
> > Thank you for reading my letter with patience.
> >
> > With Regards,
> > Parichay Chakrabarti
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] ODF format validity

2011-04-24 Thread Wayne Borean
JBF,

Change it to what?

Version 1? Version 1.1? Version 0.9?

Be specific.

Wayne


On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:

> Le 23/04/2011 11:00, Milos Sramek a écrit :
> > Dňa 22.04.2011 23:44, Wayne Borean  wrote / napísal(a):
> >> What file?
> >>
> >> Send copy as attachment.
> > It looks like that all tests, presented at
> > http://www.officeshots.org/galleries, fail because of a single issue. It
> > can be seen also in the attached file a. odf. This is the log from
> > http://tools.odftoolkit.org/odfvalidator/:
> >
> >
> > Result for a.odt
> >
> > This file is NOT valid
> >
> > Result details:
> >
> > upload:///a.odt:Info:ODF Version: 1.2
>
> Perhaps the problem is there : change default ODF version used by your
> LibreOffice and try again.
> Menu Tools > Options > Load/Save > General
>
>
> Best regards
> JBF
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Re: [libreoffice-users] menu items with ~

2011-04-24 Thread Wayne Borean
Guy,

Beta 2, OS X 10.6.7, current patches, and I'm not seeing tildes on any
menus. I specifically checked the ones you mentioned, and don't see them.

The only difference is I have a 13" MacBook Pro, so my display size is a lot
smaller than yours. I wonder if that is part of the explanation. Could you
change your screen resolution to something stupidly low like 1024x768 and
see if the Tildes disappear?

Wayne



On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Guy Voets  wrote:

> )Hello,
>
> I installed the 2nd beta for LibO 3.4.0 (DEV300m103 (Build:2) on my
> Intel iMac with OSX 10.6.7.
> This version seems to work OK, contary to the 1st beta that wouldn't even
> start.
>
> What I found, is that menu items like OK, Annul are now sometimes
> preceeded by a til or tilde (~).
> Is this a bug or has it a function? The ~ appears e.g. in the Paste
> Special dialog, Insert Table dialog, Word Count dialog...
> but not in others as Save As, Speller...
>
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[libreoffice-users] menu items with ~

2011-04-24 Thread Guy Voets
)Hello,

I installed the 2nd beta for LibO 3.4.0 (DEV300m103 (Build:2) on my
Intel iMac with OSX 10.6.7.
This version seems to work OK, contary to the 1st beta that wouldn't even start.

What I found, is that menu items like OK, Annul are now sometimes
preceeded by a til or tilde (~).
Is this a bug or has it a function? The ~ appears e.g. in the Paste
Special dialog, Insert Table dialog, Word Count dialog...
but not in others as Save As, Speller...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] ODF format validity

2011-04-24 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 23/04/2011 11:00, Milos Sramek a écrit :
> Dňa 22.04.2011 23:44, Wayne Borean  wrote / napísal(a):
>> What file?
>>
>> Send copy as attachment.
> It looks like that all tests, presented at
> http://www.officeshots.org/galleries, fail because of a single issue. It
> can be seen also in the attached file a. odf. This is the log from
> http://tools.odftoolkit.org/odfvalidator/:
> 
> 
> Result for a.odt
> 
> This file is NOT valid
> 
> Result details:
> 
> upload:///a.odt:Info:ODF Version: 1.2

Perhaps the problem is there : change default ODF version used by your
LibreOffice and try again.
Menu Tools > Options > Load/Save > General


Best regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-24 Thread David Nelson
Hi Parichay, :-)

I answered these questions in your message on the documentation mailing list.

David Nelson


On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:30, parichaycomputer  wrote:
> Dear Documentation Team,
> i already finish the writer tutorial for novice to advance learners. I have
> an alfresco account. Please guide me about the following points:
>
> a) Can i upload it in alfresco account? Is it visible to all?
> b) How can i get the valuable suggestions from libreoffice documentation
> team about my tutorial.
> c) How can i know that the tutorials are accepted by the libreoffice?
>
> Thank you for reading my letter with patience.
>
> With Regards,
> Parichay Chakrabarti

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