RE: [libreoffice-users] specialized HTML generation
I did something like that using WordStar years ago, to make help files of pages that fit on 24 x 80 screens. I also used database reports with markup around the fields that turned the text into RTF when I printed the text to disk. Here are some observations that may give you some ideas: 1. The hard part is the 300-word chunks. If you really mean exactly 300 words (and not the average writing assumption of the space that 300 5-character words take), you need to process the text file in some sort of program that inserts separators of some kind every 300 words. 2. If you mean 300 words on the average, what is considered an average amount of text on a page in a paper, you can set up the document to have pages that fit 300 words of text on the average. Just fiddle with the margins until the right amount is on a page after you load up the text as a document. 3 Then you can experiment with the File | Send > Create HTML Document to see if it will make a set of web pages for you. My experience is that the converter for this is very flaky, but it might work for the text you have if it is simple. 4. Another solution is to get the page size to where it holds 300 words of text and then save it as text (not text encoding, which you can try, but just .text). 5. Then to make separators, you can create page headings and footer that insert something like the literal characters "" at the top of the page and "" at the bottom of the page. (Pray that the Save As ... .text keeps headers and footers.) 6. Rename as .html and look at it in your browser. Most of the extra white space will go away and you'll have those blocks of words as HTML paragraphs. You might be able to load the .html into LibreOffice Writer and resave it as HTML to clean it up. (Warning: If your text has "&", "<", and ">" characters in it, you'll have to do more to prevent them appearing in the HTML in a way that has them be mistaken as markup and treated incorrectly.) - Dennis -Original Message- From: Eric S. Johansson [mailto:e...@harvee.org] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 17:43 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] specialized HTML generation does anybody have an idea if I can use libreoffice to convert and "ordinary document" into 300 word chunks, each chunk in its own HTML page or, preferably, HTML fragment. --- eric -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] specialized HTML generation
On 6/11/2011 10:23 PM, planas wrote: Eric, On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 20:42 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote: does anybody have an idea if I can use libreoffice to convert and "ordinary document" into 300 word chunks, each chunk in its own HTML page or, preferably, HTML fragment. --- eric Writer will save a document in html if you use SAVE AS and select html. I am not sure how easy it would be break up a document into 300 word chunks and get the results you want. You break the document up using page breaks and then copy/paste each page into another document and save the second document as html. I am not sure of how clean the html will be. Most programs insert extra formating that makes understanding what is going on difficult. another way to think of this problem is formatting pages as if you're going to make a paperback book. Once you put in a hard break (which word processor should do automatically), you generate the next page (HTML or paper). I expect one could create the approximate word count by using a stylesheet with a restricted page size. next trick being splitting them into separate pages. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] specialized HTML generation
Eric, On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 20:42 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote: > does anybody have an idea if I can use libreoffice to convert and "ordinary > document" into 300 word chunks, each chunk in its own HTML page or, > preferably, > HTML fragment. > > --- eric > Writer will save a document in html if you use SAVE AS and select html. I am not sure how easy it would be break up a document into 300 word chunks and get the results you want. You break the document up using page breaks and then copy/paste each page into another document and save the second document as html. I am not sure of how clean the html will be. Most programs insert extra formating that makes understanding what is going on difficult. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] removing hyperlinks
Joep, On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 23:19 +0200, Joep L. Blom wrote: > I have a small problem in a master document. > I have written (in various stages of completion) 8 chapters of a book > and use a master document to keep it orderly. > Now for some reason or other chapter 1 and chapter 3 are miraculously > double displayed in the master document regular view in navigator under > Headings. In master view I can see the normal 8 documents (i.e. the > separate files with the texts of the chapters). > How can I get rid if the superfluous displays as they are displayed in > the master document. To make it clear: I see chapter 8 (correct) and > after the end of this chapter I see chapter 1 again (incorrect) and > chapter 3 (incorrect). > I cannot delete these texts from the master document as they are read-only. > I hope there is a solution. > OS: Ubuntu Lucid > LO: 3.2.2.2. > Joep > > P.S I sent this to us...@libreoffice.org but it never reached the list > Sorry for you problem reaching us, on Thursday or Friday all the email addresses were changed to following from destinat...@global.libreoffice.org. (the link is dead). I believe the host was changed. On to the question of removing hyperlinks, you can remove them either deleting them or right clicking on the hyperlink and selecting delete link. The second method leaves the text and might need to reformat it. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Spelling Check doesn't work
Phil On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 10:05 +1200, Phil Jackson wrote: > I have the standard settings (unchanged) for Spelling and Grammar check. > > When I am typing or do a document-wide spelling check - no words are > highlighted or found to be incorrect even if I purposely spell something > incorrectly as a test. > > Do I need to download a dictionary to get this working? > > Cheers > > Phil Jackson > Which version and OS are you using? You should check under TOOLS>>OPTIONS>>LANGUAGE SETTINGS>>WRITING AIDS Make sure a dictionary is selected in the Available Language Modules group Then make sure the Check Spelling as You Type is selected in the Options group. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] specialized HTML generation
does anybody have an idea if I can use libreoffice to convert and "ordinary document" into 300 word chunks, each chunk in its own HTML page or, preferably, HTML fragment. --- eric -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts)
Filed a bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38195, just needs confirmation. steve On 12/06/11 12:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Hmmm, actually font sizes did change weirdly in an xls file i have just been working on. I'm not sure exactly how or why or even if i could reproduce it. I guess i just hadn't noticed the issue before :( Regards from Tom :) - Original Message From: Steve Edmonds To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 0:19:13 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts) Hi. Did you mean the font reducing each copy and paste happens on Ubuntu 10.04 LO 3.3.2 too because this doesn't happen on Suse 11.0 with 3.3.2. steve On 11/06/11 21:45, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) That is expected behaviour. It happens in Ubuntu 10.04 LO 3.3.2 too. Perhaps you wanted a "Paste special" option? Otherwise formatting could be a mixed jumble making the page look quite strange? Regards from Tom :) - Original Message From: Steve Edmonds To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 6:09:09 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts) Hi. Came accross a strange thing today, peculiar to 3.4.0 on OSX, this doesn't happen in 3.3.2 on linux. I opened a new calc, put a number on sheet 1 A3 On sheet 2 I referenced the cell on sheet 1 (=Sheet1.A3), say in cell A1. The font on the sheet 2 was Arial 10 pt. I wanted to copy the formula, so I clicked on sheet2.A1 and copied the formula =Sheet1.A3 from the formula bar. I pasted it into a cell (say sheet2.A3) and the font changed and the size went to 8pt. I click on cell sheet2.A3, copy the formula from the formula bar and past into say sheet2.A5 and the font changes to 6.5pt. It seems the font style is being copied from the gui? Does this happen on linux or windows with 3.4.0. steve -- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) Malware programs often pretend to be registry cleaners so please take care. The registry is really vulnerable, fairly critical and not very well understood. It's best to avoid messing around with it. Experts avoid touching it unless they have to jic. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: David B Teague sr > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 23:17:13 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > On 6/11/2011 5:20 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote: > > That is why there is a "special" uninstaller for Norton AV, that is, or >course, not produced by the Norton folks. It is a "freebie" out there >somewhere. I used it several years ago, but don't remember just exactly where >I >got it. > > Roxy > > > This departs from the topic slightly, so please forgive. > > When faced with recalcitrant application uninstallation, I have resorted to >removing the folder that contains the binary and running a registry cleaner. >(CCleaner seems to work and do no damage.) > > There is no way to be certain every folder belonging to the recalcitrant >application has been removed. > > This is off topic, so please use private communication in responding. > > David Teague > > > -- nil significat nisi oscillat > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts)
Hi :) Hmmm, actually font sizes did change weirdly in an xls file i have just been working on. I'm not sure exactly how or why or even if i could reproduce it. I guess i just hadn't noticed the issue before :( Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Steve Edmonds > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 0:19:13 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts) > > Hi. > Did you mean the font reducing each copy and paste happens on Ubuntu > 10.04 LO 3.3.2 too because > this doesn't happen on Suse 11.0 with 3.3.2. > steve > > On 11/06/11 21:45, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > That is expected behaviour. It happens in Ubuntu 10.04 LO 3.3.2 too. >Perhaps > > > you wanted a "Paste special" option? Otherwise formatting could be a > > mixed > > jumble making the page look quite strange? > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > >> From: Steve Edmonds > >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org > >> Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 6:09:09 > >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts) > >> > >> Hi. > >> Came accross a strange thing today, peculiar to 3.4.0 on OSX, this > >> doesn't happen in 3.3.2 on linux. > >> I opened a new calc, put a number on sheet 1 A3 > >> On sheet 2 I referenced the cell on sheet 1 (=Sheet1.A3), say in cell A1. > >> > >> The font on the sheet 2 was Arial 10 pt. > >> I wanted to copy the formula, so I clicked on sheet2.A1 and copied the > >> formula =Sheet1.A3 from the formula bar. I pasted it into a cell (say > >> sheet2.A3) and the font changed and the size went to 8pt. > >> I click on cell sheet2.A3, copy the formula from the formula bar and > >> past into say sheet2.A5 and the font changes to 6.5pt. > >> > >> It seems the font style is being copied from the gui? Does this happen > >> on linux or windows with 3.4.0. > >> steve > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > >> In case of problems unsubscribing, write to >postmas...@documentfoundation.org > >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > >> deleted > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) One advantage of using a LiveCd before there are problems on your machine is that you have more confidence in having a way of solving problems when they occur in Windows. Also it checks that the hardware works easily by default before getting stuck in the middle of an install. Anyway, if you know about partitioning then it's a fairly safe bet that you know what you are doing with it all. Good luck and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 0:26:57 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > I will probably just wait until I get a chance to add a partition and go > ahead >and install it. I have been fairly happy with Win7 64 so far. My boot time is >just under a minute - a few seconds better than my XP desktop, and WAY better >than my old Vista laptop. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of > installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster >that > way than Windows. > > > Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the > "Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try > it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop >using > the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that > works at surfing a few sites. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get > > >to > >that, too. > > That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it > >perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing >sales?? > > Roxy > > > > > > Hi :) > > The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the >"add" > >bit > > rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs >that > > you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. > > > > There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel >like > >i > > have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work >often > > hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me > >feel > > so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Roxy Robinson > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - > > > Call >for > >a > > >cleaner > > > > > > Tom, > > > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its > defragger. > > >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in > >the > > >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > > >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > > >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, > about > > >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it > >comes > > >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > > >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > > >uninstallers out there to help with it. > > > Roxy > > > > > > > > > Hi :) > > > > > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. > >It's > > > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' > > stick > > > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards > >compatible. > > > > > > > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every >couple > >of > > > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff >and > > >stuff. > > > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard >defrags, > > > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > > >almost > > > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) > which > > > makes a huge difference. > > > > > > > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > > > Thanks and regards from > > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > > From: Roxy Robinson > > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - >Call > >for > > >a > > > >cleaner > > > > > > > >
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
I will probably just wait until I get a chance to add a partition and go ahead and install it. I have been fairly happy with Win7 64 so far. My boot time is just under a minute - a few seconds better than my XP desktop, and WAY better than my old Vista laptop. Roxy Hi :) You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster that way than Windows. Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the "Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop using the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that works at surfing a few sites. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a >cleaner > > I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to >that, too. > That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it >perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing >sales?? > Roxy > > > Hi :) > The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the "add" >bit > rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that > you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. > > There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel like >i > have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often > hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me >feel > so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > Tom, > > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. > >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in >the > >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about > >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it >comes > >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > >uninstallers out there to help with it. > > Roxy > > > > > > Hi :) > > > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. >It's > > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' > stick > > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards >compatible. > > > > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple >of > > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and > >stuff. > > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > >almost > > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > > makes a huge difference. > > > > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > > Thanks and regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Roxy Robinson > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call >for > >a > > >cleaner > > > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > >there > > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few >years. > >If > > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that > >has > > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show >you > >what > > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very > >seldom > > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted >on > my > > >machine. > > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program > >to > > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, >left > > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always >open > >this > > >type file with this program". > > > Just a
Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts)
Hi. Did you mean the font reducing each copy and paste happens on Ubuntu 10.04 LO 3.3.2 too because this doesn't happen on Suse 11.0 with 3.3.2. steve On 11/06/11 21:45, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > That is expected behaviour. It happens in Ubuntu 10.04 LO 3.3.2 too. > Perhaps > you wanted a "Paste special" option? Otherwise formatting could be a mixed > jumble making the page look quite strange? > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > >> From: Steve Edmonds >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 6:09:09 >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts) >> >> Hi. >> Came accross a strange thing today, peculiar to 3.4.0 on OSX, this >> doesn't happen in 3.3.2 on linux. >> I opened a new calc, put a number on sheet 1 A3 >> On sheet 2 I referenced the cell on sheet 1 (=Sheet1.A3), say in cell A1. >> >> The font on the sheet 2 was Arial 10 pt. >> I wanted to copy the formula, so I clicked on sheet2.A1 and copied the >> formula =Sheet1.A3 from the formula bar. I pasted it into a cell (say >> sheet2.A3) and the font changed and the size went to 8pt. >> I click on cell sheet2.A3, copy the formula from the formula bar and >> past into say sheet2.A5 and the font changes to 6.5pt. >> >> It seems the font style is being copied from the gui? Does this happen >> on linux or windows with 3.4.0. >> steve >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >> In case of problems unsubscribing, write to >> postmas...@documentfoundation.org >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> >> >> > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
2011/6/11 Tom Davies : > Hi :) > You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of > installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster > that > way than Windows. Well, it's slow from the CD, so I prefer to make a Live USB stick instead. Much faster, but still not as fast as a native install. But enough about that now, aren't we supposed to discuss LibreOffice here…? :P Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ > > > Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the > "Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try > it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop > using > the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that > works at surfing a few sites. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message >> From: Roxy Robinson >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12 >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for >> a >>cleaner >> >> I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to >>that, too. >> That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it >>perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing >>sales?? >> Roxy >> >> >> Hi :) >> The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent. Plus they also do the "add" >>bit >> rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs >> that >> you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. >> >> There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel >> like >>i >> have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work >> often >> hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me >>feel >> so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message >> > From: Roxy Robinson >> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 >> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call >> > for >>a >> >cleaner >> > >> > Tom, >> > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its > defragger. >> >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in >>the >> >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it >> >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that >> >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, > about >> >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it >>comes >> >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst >> >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV >> >uninstallers out there to help with it. >> > Roxy >> > >> > >> > Hi :) >> > >> > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. >>It's >> > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' >> stick >> > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards >>compatible. >> > >> > >> > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple >>of >> > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and >> >stuff. >> > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard >> > defrags, >> > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them >> >almost >> > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) > which >> > makes a huge difference. >> > >> > >> > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. >> > Thanks and regards from >> > Tom :) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - Original Message >> > > From: Roxy Robinson >> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 >> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - >> > > Call >>for >> >a >> > >cleaner >> > > >> > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, > and >> >there >> > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few >>years. >> >If >> > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the >> > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" > that >> >has >> > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show >>you >> >what >> > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick > and >> > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very >> >seldom >> > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted >>on >> my >> > >machine. >> > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a > program >> >to >> > >"open
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
On 6/11/2011 5:20 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote: That is why there is a "special" uninstaller for Norton AV, that is, or course, not produced by the Norton folks. It is a "freebie" out there somewhere. I used it several years ago, but don't remember just exactly where I got it. Roxy This departs from the topic slightly, so please forgive. When faced with recalcitrant application uninstallation, I have resorted to removing the folder that contains the binary and running a registry cleaner. (CCleaner seems to work and do no damage.) There is no way to be certain every folder belonging to the recalcitrant application has been removed. This is off topic, so please use private communication in responding. David Teague -- nil significat nisi oscillat -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Spelling Check doesn't work
I have the standard settings (unchanged) for Spelling and Grammar check. When I am typing or do a document-wide spelling check - no words are highlighted or found to be incorrect even if I purposely spell something incorrectly as a test. Do I need to download a dictionary to get this working? Cheers Phil Jackson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts)
Hi :) Cor is right, it's a bug. I mis-read the original question. The font in sheet2 should remain the same as it was, not take the font-size from sheet1. LO 3.3.2 in Ubuntu 10.04 behaves properly Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Cor Nouws > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:11:06 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts) > > Hi Steve, > > Sorry that I'm not able to put any time in answering your question below. > But >may I aks you to try to find in Bugzilla if there already is an issue for it? > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi > Summary: font > Product: LIbreOffice > Component: Spreadsheet > > OK > (Maybe some more refinement.) > More info is also here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport > > If someone is able to help with a direct answer, so much the better of > course >:-) > > Kind regards, > Cor > > Steve Edmonds wrote (11-06-11 07:09) > > Hi. > > Came accross a strange thing today, peculiar to 3.4.0 on OSX, this > > doesn't happen in 3.3.2 on linux. > > I opened a new calc, put a number on sheet 1 A3 > > On sheet 2 I referenced the cell on sheet 1 (=Sheet1.A3), say in cell A1. > > > > The font on the sheet 2 was Arial 10 pt. > > I wanted to copy the formula, so I clicked on sheet2.A1 and copied the > > formula =Sheet1.A3 from the formula bar. I pasted it into a cell (say > > sheet2.A3) and the font changed and the size went to 8pt. > > I click on cell sheet2.A3, copy the formula from the formula bar and > > past into say sheet2.A5 and the font changes to 6.5pt. > > > > It seems the font style is being copied from the gui? Does this happen > > on linux or windows with 3.4.0. > > steve > > > > > > > -- - Cor > - http://nl.libreoffice.org > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster that way than Windows. Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the "Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop using the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that works at surfing a few sites. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to > >that, too. > That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it >perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing >sales?? > Roxy > > > Hi :) > The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the "add" >bit > rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that > you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. > > There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel > like >i > have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often > hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me >feel > so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > Tom, > > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. > >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in >the > >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about > >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it >comes > >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > >uninstallers out there to help with it. > > Roxy > > > > > > Hi :) > > > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. >It's > > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' > stick > > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards >compatible. > > > > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple >of > > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and > >stuff. > > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > >almost > > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > > makes a huge difference. > > > > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > > Thanks and regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Roxy Robinson > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - > > > Call >for > >a > > >cleaner > > > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > >there > > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few >years. > >If > > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that > >has > > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show >you > >what > > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very > >seldom > > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted >on > my > > >machine. > > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program > >to > > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, >left > > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always >open > >this > > >type file with this program". > > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no differ
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
That is why there is a "special" uninstaller for Norton AV, that is, or course, not produced by the Norton folks. It is a "freebie" out there somewhere. I used it several years ago, but don't remember just exactly where I got it. Roxy On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 13:09 -0500, Roxy Robinson wrote: > Tom, > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. > Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the > registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about > speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes > very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > uninstallers out there to help with it. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and > stuff. > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > almost > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > makes a huge difference. > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for a > >cleaner > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > > there > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. > >If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that > >has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you > >what > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very > >seldom > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my > >machine. > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open > >this > >type file with this program". > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > > the move > > > > The finish went like this:- > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > > programs > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > > Program folders. > > > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > > "open with". > > > > So its whoever is installed first! > > > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > > LibreOffice. > > > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > > > regards > > > > John B > > > >- > >- > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems > > > especially > >in > > > Windows. > > > > > > > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both > >are > > > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i > >don't > > > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared > > > their > > > reliability or effectiveness. > > > > > > > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled > >within > > > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the > >command-line, > > > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is > > > quite > >
[libreoffice-users] removing hyperlinks
I have a small problem in a master document. I have written (in various stages of completion) 8 chapters of a book and use a master document to keep it orderly. Now for some reason or other chapter 1 and chapter 3 are miraculously double displayed in the master document regular view in navigator under Headings. In master view I can see the normal 8 documents (i.e. the separate files with the texts of the chapters). How can I get rid if the superfluous displays as they are displayed in the master document. To make it clear: I see chapter 8 (correct) and after the end of this chapter I see chapter 1 again (incorrect) and chapter 3 (incorrect). I cannot delete these texts from the master document as they are read-only. I hope there is a solution. OS: Ubuntu Lucid LO: 3.2.2.2. Joep P.S I sent this to us...@libreoffice.org but it never reached the list -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to that, too. That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing sales?? Roxy Hi :) The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the "add" bit rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel like i have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me feel so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a >cleaner > > Tom, > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV >uninstallers out there to help with it. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and >stuff. > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them >almost > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > makes a huge difference. > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and >there > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. >If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that >has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you >what > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very >seldom > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my > >machine. > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program >to > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open >this > >type file with this program". > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > > the move > > > > The finish went like this:- > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > > programs > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > > Program folders. > > > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > > "open with". > > > > So its whoever is installed first! > > > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > > LibreOffice. > > > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > > > regards > > > > John B > > >>- >- > >- > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/0
Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts)
Hi Steve, Sorry that I'm not able to put any time in answering your question below. But may I aks you to try to find in Bugzilla if there already is an issue for it? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi Summary: font Product: LIbreOffice Component: Spreadsheet > OK (Maybe some more refinement.) More info is also here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport If someone is able to help with a direct answer, so much the better of course :-) Kind regards, Cor Steve Edmonds wrote (11-06-11 07:09) Hi. Came accross a strange thing today, peculiar to 3.4.0 on OSX, this doesn't happen in 3.3.2 on linux. I opened a new calc, put a number on sheet 1 A3 On sheet 2 I referenced the cell on sheet 1 (=Sheet1.A3), say in cell A1. The font on the sheet 2 was Arial 10 pt. I wanted to copy the formula, so I clicked on sheet2.A1 and copied the formula =Sheet1.A3 from the formula bar. I pasted it into a cell (say sheet2.A3) and the font changed and the size went to 8pt. I click on cell sheet2.A3, copy the formula from the formula bar and past into say sheet2.A5 and the font changes to 6.5pt. It seems the font style is being copied from the gui? Does this happen on linux or windows with 3.4.0. steve -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 13:09 -0500, Roxy Robinson wrote: > Tom, > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. > Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the > registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it > uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that > recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about > speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes > very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst > programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV > uninstallers out there to help with it. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and > stuff. > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them > almost > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > makes a huge difference. > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for a > >cleaner > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > > there > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. > >If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that > >has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you > >what > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very > >seldom > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my > >machine. > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open > >this > >type file with this program". > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > > the move > > > > The finish went like this:- > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > > programs > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > > Program folders. > > > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > > "open with". > > > > So its whoever is installed first! > > > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > > LibreOffice. > > > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > > > regards > > > > John B > > > >- > >- > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems > > > especially > >in > > > Windows. > > > > > > > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both > >are > > > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i > >don't > > > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared > > > their > > > reliability or effectiveness. > > > > > > > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled > >within > > > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the > >command-line, > > > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is > > > quite > > > high. > > > > > > > > > Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant > >program > > > is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." > >option. > > > > > > Regards from >
Re: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2
I worked for the same corporation for 34 years - about the 2nd half of that in Training & Development. Our corporate "standard" was MS Office Pro, which if we used it at work, we had a free copy at home. Up until about the last year or so of that career I had used everything, except Access. I had just started trying to learn it when I took an excellent early retirement package. And, it has been the same thing with OO & now LO - I still haven't gotten into Base. But from what I knew about Access, you are probably right that putting it into Base is an excellent option at this point. So . . . maybe I'll jump in see what I can do with it. Roxy Hi :) These mails go out to a lot of people and are stored in archives for years but you are all good so far. With 500 people i would move it to a proper database, Base, rather than keep it on spreadsheets. The spreadsheet sheet that you have already can be the main table. Base can read it without doing much to it. Then instead of using a 2nd sheet use a "Query". The formulas are almost exactly the same and it ends up looking like a table anyway. When you are more comfortable with Base then you can do fancy forms and mail-merges, labels and stuff to make a prettier tables, or for letters, "id badges" and stuff. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 18:59:53 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2 > > Tom, > Thanks for your suggestions - I guess I will have to try that since I'm not >getting what I want with what I'm doing. > This is "off" the subject issue, but I come from a very small town. My high >school class - 1961 - was the first to got over 50. We had 60 in the class, >55 >who "walked" on graduation night. The other 5 finished in summer school. The >classes continued to grow after that, though I don't think they ever went over >100; and are probably running around 70-75 now, if not less. > I just finished organizing my class's 50th reunion and am now putting > together >a reunion for the classes of 1955-1964. The total number of students during >that period is, according to my spreadsheet, 500. I dare say, I knew, and >remember about 490 of those, along with quite a few others from the classes >before and after. We were all like one big family - you usually knew whole >families because you knew someone in your class, or within 2 or 3 years of >your >class. Your classmates were, essentially, your group of friends. > Anyway, every class in this group has, in some format, a database of their >classmates and their information. Each class has a few that have gone "missing >in action", but we are all working together to find everyone. This will be the >4th, I think, combined reunion like this over the past 50 years, and this >combined database is something that got started after the first one. But, it >has >not been updated since the last reunion in 1997. Every classmate - there are a >few exceptions - has given there info to freely share with everyone. And >everyone at this reunion will receive a copy of this spreadsheet I'm working >on. > Roxy > > Hi :) > > I did something similar once. It's easier to keep the data intact, in the 3 > separate columns for data entry and for sorting the lists into alphabetical > order and stuff but then use a 2nd worksheet (2nd tab at the bottom) to use > formulas to add the 3 names together. eg > A2 = Sheet1.A2 & " " & Sheet1.B2 & " " & Sheet1.C2 > You might have renamed the worksheet tabs so just swap the new name for >"Sheet1" > but still make sure there is a dot . after it and before the cell address. > > There are issues with "Data Protection" and respecting people's right to >privacy > but if they have given you their addresses and know that it's for sharing with > the whole class then that sort-of implies that they have given you permission. > I'm not sure wheter it's legally enough but it probably gives you a good > position. > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 15:51:55 > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2 > > > > I have a 15 page spreadsheet of classmate addresses, phone numbers, email, >etc. > >I "manipulate" this information in several different ways to give my >classmates > >different kinds of "directories". Anyway, their names are in the first 3 > >columns. This particular spreadsheet is going to include ALL the information >on > >each person, will be printed on legal sized paper in landscape format, so I >need > >a little more room to contain everything on the width of the page. > > So (SEVERAL TIMES) I have merged the cells in the first 3 columns. This > >contains the parts of their names, and allows me to conserve enough room to >get > >everything on the width of the page. But every t
Re: [libreoffice-users] helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 10:39 -0700, upscope wrote: > On Saturday, June 11, 2011 01:35:34 AM Cor Nouws wrote: > > Hi planas, > > > > planas wrote (11-06-11 06:12) > > > > > On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 03:18 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: > > >> That would obviously result in an attitude in which people are not > > >> only pushed back from the 3.4.0 to an older version, nor withhold > > >> explanation about the choice they have to work with one or > > >> another.. Well, each can find his own short or long sentences to > > >> explain :-) > > > > > > I have noticed that 3.4.0 seems to support 2010 docx and xlsx > > > formats better than 3.3.2. I have not had any major issues with > > > 3.4.0, quirky one issue in Calc but not a show stopper. > > > > Indeed. That supports an approach to let people work with the new > > version too. Bugs however, are included. See e.g. > > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/#LO340 > > > > Best, > Can you install both at same time? > > I would like to test 3.4.0 to see if any of the calc problems I have > with 3.3.2 are fixed. > ON Windows were 3.4.0 is no I could not. I have not update Linux from 3.3.2 or installed 3.4.0 along side yet. The wierd part about MSO compatibility is I need both for different reasons. At work our server MS Server 2003 does not understand any MSO format after XP/2003 but a group I work has users who insist that everyone uses MSO200&?2010 even those who have earlier MSO versions. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 12:35:03 PM Tom Davies wrote: > - Original Message > > > From: upscope > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 18:52:12 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice > > - proposal > > > > On Saturday, June 11, 2011 04:55:12 AM Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > > > > Pedro i have to disagree with one of your points although i > > > almost entirely agree with the rest. The 3.4.0 HAD to be > > > released when it was even tho it wasn't ready (as we have seen > > > from the jump in weird problems posted to the users list). > > > > > > Oracle were playing tactical games, rushing out their 1st > > > release > > > > > > since their 3.3.0 and calling it 3.4.0. LibreOffice has had 2 > > > clear > > > > > > releases since their 3.3.0 (the 3.3.1 and the 3.3.2) and were > > > > > > working on the 3rd, due at the time to be called 3.3.4. Some > > > segments of the press were hailing LibreOffice as much faster > > > developing than OOo because LO's 3.3.0 released the day before > > > OOo's 3.3.0. BUT by calling their first release since then the > > > "3.4.0" the public & media's perception would be that Oracle > > > had leap-frogged over LO and regained the lead. (even tho it > > > contained less work and less added functionality than the 3.3.1 > > > (or even than the LO 3.3.0!)). > > > > Tom have to disagree with coming out with a new version just to > > get it out because a competior did something. In my 40+ years in > > the It field I saw many companies do this and lose their > > reputation for good quality products. ( Xerox, Data General, > > Digital Equipment all gone from making main frames, mini's and > > other computer related products). > > > > My thoughts are come out with a good quality product when its > > ready. This does not mean wait forever, but get rid of themajor > > issues, add functionality, test and then release. (Calc is good > > example ,in my mind, of a product with problems, also some in > > writer when dealing with docx). I'm trying to document and bug > > report the ones I see, but some are documents I cannot attach > > because of the information they contain). > > > > I will be glad to test 3.4.0 but I need to keep 3.3.2 running due > > to monthly commitments. I hope to load opensuse 12.0 this week > > and then 3.4.0 with it to test. > > > > Russ > > > > openSUSE 11.4(2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop)|KDE Platform Version 4.6.3 > > (4.6.3) "release 4"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce > > 8400GS (NVIDIA- Linux-x86_64-270.41.06) > > Hi :) > Well the 3.4.1 is going to settle a lot of the issues and it's due > out reasonably soon, unrushed. Until then, or even beyond the, we > have the 3.3.2 beign supported for quite a long time. Otherwise i > would agree with you and i don't entirely disagree now. > Regards from > Tom :) It was just my old age and 2 cents remembering the way we used to release software. Yes I'm using 3.3.2 but that's where my calc problems started. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 20:04 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > These mails go out to a lot of people and are stored in archives for years > but > you are all good so far. With 500 people i would move it to a proper > database, > Base, rather than keep it on spreadsheets. > > > The spreadsheet sheet that you have already can be the main table. Base can > read it without doing much to it. Then instead of using a 2nd sheet use a > "Query". The formulas are almost exactly the same and it ends up looking > like a > table anyway. When you are more comfortable with Base then you can do fancy > forms and mail-merges, labels and stuff to make a prettier tables, or for > letters, "id badges" and stuff. > > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 18:59:53 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2 > > > > Tom, > > Thanks for your suggestions - I guess I will have to try that since I'm > > not > >getting what I want with what I'm doing. > > This is "off" the subject issue, but I come from a very small town. My > > high > >school class - 1961 - was the first to got over 50. We had 60 in the > >class, 55 > >who "walked" on graduation night. The other 5 finished in summer school. > >The > >classes continued to grow after that, though I don't think they ever went > >over > >100; and are probably running around 70-75 now, if not less. > > I just finished organizing my class's 50th reunion and am now putting > > together > >a reunion for the classes of 1955-1964. The total number of students during > >that period is, according to my spreadsheet, 500. I dare say, I knew, and > >remember about 490 of those, along with quite a few others from the classes > >before and after. We were all like one big family - you usually knew whole > >families because you knew someone in your class, or within 2 or 3 years of > >your > >class. Your classmates were, essentially, your group of friends. > > Anyway, every class in this group has, in some format, a database of their > >classmates and their information. Each class has a few that have gone > >"missing > >in action", but we are all working together to find everyone. This will be > >the > >4th, I think, combined reunion like this over the past 50 years, and this > >combined database is something that got started after the first one. But, it > >has > >not been updated since the last reunion in 1997. Every classmate - there are > >a > >few exceptions - has given there info to freely share with everyone. And > >everyone at this reunion will receive a copy of this spreadsheet I'm working > > > >on. > > Roxy > > > > Hi :) > > > > I did something similar once. It's easier to keep the data intact, in the > > 3 > > separate columns for data entry and for sorting the lists into alphabetical > > order and stuff but then use a 2nd worksheet (2nd tab at the bottom) to use > > formulas to add the 3 names together. eg > > A2 = Sheet1.A2 & " " & Sheet1.B2 & " " & Sheet1.C2 > > You might have renamed the worksheet tabs so just swap the new name for > >"Sheet1" > > but still make sure there is a dot . after it and before the cell address. > > > > There are issues with "Data Protection" and respecting people's right to > >privacy > > but if they have given you their addresses and know that it's for sharing > with > > the whole class then that sort-of implies that they have given you > permission. > > I'm not sure wheter it's legally enough but it probably gives you a good > > position. > > Good luck and regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Roxy Robinson > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 15:51:55 > > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2 > > > > > > I have a 15 page spreadsheet of classmate addresses, phone numbers, > > > email, > >etc. > > >I "manipulate" this information in several different ways to give my > >classmates > > >different kinds of "directories". Anyway, their names are in the first 3 > > >columns. This particular spreadsheet is going to include ALL the > > >information > >on > > >each person, will be printed on legal sized paper in landscape format, so > > >I > >need > > >a little more room to contain everything on the width of the page. > > > So (SEVERAL TIMES) I have merged the cells in the first 3 columns. This > > >contains the parts of their names, and allows me to conserve enough room > > >to > >get > > >everything on the width of the page. But every time I close LO, and then > come > > >back to work on this spreadsheet, the cells are no longer "merged". They > will > > >not stay merged. I haven't gotten all the way through the spreadsheet - > > >at > >one > > >time - to merge the cells. Would the "un-merged" ce
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent.Plus they also do the "add" bit rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names. There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel like i have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me feel so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :) Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > Tom, > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV >uninstallers out there to help with it. > Roxy > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. > > > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and >stuff. > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them >almost > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which > makes a huge difference. > > > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call > > for >a > >cleaner > > > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and >there > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. >If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that >has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you >what > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very >seldom > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my > >machine. > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program >to > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open >this > >type file with this program". > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > > Roxy Robinson > > > > > > Thanks for the start: > > > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > > the move > > > > The finish went like this:- > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > > programs > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > > Program folders. > > > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > > "open with". > > > > So its whoever is installed first! > > > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > > LibreOffice. > > > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > > > regards > > > > John B > > >>- >- > >- > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems >especially > >in > > > Windows. > > > > > > > > > There is still often a clash b
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4
Hi :) Is it something to do with the gpg key? If so i have no idea how to get the right one :( Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 13:51:44 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4 > > > What I am wondering about is the meaning of "is not signed"? > I use 64-bit DEBS, but I never got an error saying something about a > archived file not being signed. > > What causes that error message? Is it something to do with a corrupt > file or something to do with the way it was archived? That is the real > issue right now. > > I have not tried 3.4.0 on my systems [Ubuntu 64-bit, and 32-bit, plus > Vista 32-bit]. > > Instead of saying the person should wait for a next version, we need to > figure out what is causing the error that is cropping up. > > I do not know if downloading is the issue, but here are the two we have > on the NA Community DVD. > > These are a direct link to the 64-bit RPM that is on the NA testing > portal - 3.3.2, and then 3.4.0. > > 3.3.2 >http://libreoffice-na.us/English/LibreOffice-Install-Files/Linux%20RPM%20-%2064%20bit/LibO_3.3.2_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz >z > > 3.4.0 >http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/LibreOffice-Install-Files/Linux%20RPM%20-%2064%20bit/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz >z > > > On 06/11/2011 08:33 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > > Or even better (perhaps) wait for a week or 2 and then download the 3.3.3 >after > > initial bugs are ironed out > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message > >> From: Tom Davies > >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org > >> Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 13:28:31 > >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4 > >> > >> Ouch! If it has failed again i would definitely try the 3.3.2 instead of > >> >the > >> 3.4.0. I tend to have more luck with 32bit versions even on my 64bit >machine > >> to > >> > >> the point where i gave-up and installed a 32bit OS (Ubuntu 32bit). > >> > >> The devs mailing list might be more helpful at getting the 64bit 3.4.0 > >> to >work > >> > >> because it's quite an advanced problem so the users list probably hasn't >got > >> anyone that knows this stuff on that level. > >> > >> Apols and regards from > >> Tom :) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message > >>> From: Ben Davis > >>>To: us...@libreoffice.org > >>> Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 3:42:15 > >>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4 > >>> > >>> I tried downloading this file again > >>> (LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz) from mirror server > >>> >http://mirror.learn.ac.lk/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.4.0/rpm/x86_64/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz > > >> z > >>> z > >>> the SHA256 is correct (identical to hash on your > >>> > > website,,,e76e7d60898cf9e085b73c962cc6cb2045449abbe6998a56765b8f4da5600e9d), > >>>so no download corruption > >>> > >>> can you tell me how I can fix this or which forum/email to use to deal > > with > >>> this problem (please). > >>> On 9 June 2011 12:57, Ben Davis wrote: > >>> > hi > I just downloaded 3.4 x64 linux package from your website, and got >this > installation error: > *Package libobasis3.4-en-US-3.4.0-12.x86_64.rpm is not signed* > downloaded aprox 12 noon Malaysian time (5am BST...4AM GMT?) June 9th > Do I need to download again? or can I import signature? > > >>> >thanks > >>> -- > >>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > >>>In case of problems unsubscribing, write to > >> postmas...@documentfoundation.org > >>>Posting guidelines + more: >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > >>> Allmessages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > >> deleted > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
- Original Message > From: upscope > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 18:52:12 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal > > On Saturday, June 11, 2011 04:55:12 AM Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > > > Pedro i have to disagree with one of your points although i almost > > entirely agree with the rest. The 3.4.0 HAD to be released when it > > was even tho it wasn't ready (as we have seen from the jump in weird > > problems posted to the users list). > > > > > > Oracle were playing tactical games, rushing out their 1st release > > since their 3.3.0 and calling it 3.4.0. LibreOffice has had 2 clear > > releases since their 3.3.0 (the 3.3.1 and the 3.3.2) and were > > working on the 3rd, due at the time to be called 3.3.4. Some > > segments of the press were hailing LibreOffice as much faster > > developing than OOo because LO's 3.3.0 released the day before OOo's > > 3.3.0. BUT by calling their first release since then the "3.4.0" > > the public & media's perception would be that Oracle had > > leap-frogged over LO and regained the lead. (even tho it contained > > less work and less added functionality than the 3.3.1 (or even than > > the LO 3.3.0!)). > Tom have to disagree with coming out with a new version just to get it > out because a competior did something. In my 40+ years in the It field I > saw many companies do this and lose their reputation for good quality > products. ( Xerox, Data General, Digital Equipment all gone from making > main frames, mini's and other computer related products). > > My thoughts are come out with a good quality product when its ready. > This does not mean wait forever, but get rid of themajor issues, add > functionality, test and then release. (Calc is good example ,in my mind, > of a product with problems, also some in writer when dealing with docx). > I'm trying to document and bug report the ones I see, but some are > documents I cannot attach because of the information they contain). > > I will be glad to test 3.4.0 but I need to keep 3.3.2 running due to > monthly commitments. I hope to load opensuse 12.0 this week and then > 3.4.0 with it to test. > > Russ > > openSUSE 11.4(2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop)|KDE Platform Version 4.6.3 (4.6.3) > "release 4"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA- > Linux-x86_64-270.41.06) Hi :) Well the 3.4.1 is going to settle a lot of the issues and it's due out reasonably soon, unrushed. Until then, or even beyond the, we have the 3.3.2 beign supported for quite a long time. Otherwise i would agree with you and i don't entirely disagree now. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2
Hi :) These mails go out to a lot of people and are stored in archives for years but you are all good so far. With 500 people i would move it to a proper database, Base, rather than keep it on spreadsheets. The spreadsheet sheet that you have already can be the main table. Base can read it without doing much to it. Then instead of using a 2nd sheet use a "Query". The formulas are almost exactly the same and it ends up looking like a table anyway. When you are more comfortable with Base then you can do fancy forms and mail-merges, labels and stuff to make a prettier tables, or for letters, "id badges" and stuff. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 18:59:53 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2 > > Tom, > Thanks for your suggestions - I guess I will have to try that since I'm not >getting what I want with what I'm doing. > This is "off" the subject issue, but I come from a very small town. My high >school class - 1961 - was the first to got over 50. We had 60 in the class, >55 >who "walked" on graduation night. The other 5 finished in summer school. The >classes continued to grow after that, though I don't think they ever went >over >100; and are probably running around 70-75 now, if not less. > I just finished organizing my class's 50th reunion and am now putting > together >a reunion for the classes of 1955-1964. The total number of students during >that period is, according to my spreadsheet, 500. I dare say, I knew, and >remember about 490 of those, along with quite a few others from the classes >before and after. We were all like one big family - you usually knew whole >families because you knew someone in your class, or within 2 or 3 years of >your >class. Your classmates were, essentially, your group of friends. > Anyway, every class in this group has, in some format, a database of their >classmates and their information. Each class has a few that have gone >"missing >in action", but we are all working together to find everyone. This will be >the >4th, I think, combined reunion like this over the past 50 years, and this >combined database is something that got started after the first one. But, it >has >not been updated since the last reunion in 1997. Every classmate - there are a > >few exceptions - has given there info to freely share with everyone. And >everyone at this reunion will receive a copy of this spreadsheet I'm working >on. > Roxy > > Hi :) > > I did something similar once. It's easier to keep the data intact, in the 3 > separate columns for data entry and for sorting the lists into alphabetical > order and stuff but then use a 2nd worksheet (2nd tab at the bottom) to use > formulas to add the 3 names together. eg > A2 = Sheet1.A2 & " " & Sheet1.B2 & " " & Sheet1.C2 > You might have renamed the worksheet tabs so just swap the new name for >"Sheet1" > but still make sure there is a dot . after it and before the cell address. > > There are issues with "Data Protection" and respecting people's right to >privacy > but if they have given you their addresses and know that it's for sharing with > the whole class then that sort-of implies that they have given you permission. > I'm not sure wheter it's legally enough but it probably gives you a good > position. > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Roxy Robinson > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 15:51:55 > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2 > > > > I have a 15 page spreadsheet of classmate addresses, phone numbers, email, >etc. > >I "manipulate" this information in several different ways to give my >classmates > >different kinds of "directories". Anyway, their names are in the first 3 > >columns. This particular spreadsheet is going to include ALL the > >information >on > >each person, will be printed on legal sized paper in landscape format, so I > > >need > >a little more room to contain everything on the width of the page. > > So (SEVERAL TIMES) I have merged the cells in the first 3 columns. This > >contains the parts of their names, and allows me to conserve enough room > >to >get > >everything on the width of the page. But every time I close LO, and then come > >back to work on this spreadsheet, the cells are no longer "merged". They will > >not stay merged. I haven't gotten all the way through the spreadsheet - at >one > >time - to merge the cells. Would the "un-merged" cells that are left in the 3 > >columns keep the ones above them from staying merged, or am I doing something > >wrong? I just don't understand - time after time - I merge them, come back >and > >they are no long merged?? > > Roxy > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.
Re: [libreoffice-users] helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
Hi :) I'm fairly certain there is a list but i'm not certain of how comprehensive it is. Any release, even alpha releases have merit, extra functionality, reduced size yada yada yada. The 3.4.0 does normally work excellently well and is better at .docX and .xlsX conversions, when it works. The problem is that when weird things go wrong that weren't a problem in 3.3.2 then posting a bug-report and going back to 3.3.2 is the fastest, easiest and most reliable answer. In almost all cases the 3.4.0 is THE one to try first because the chances are that it will work well. However, if people can only download 1 version, say on mobile broadband with a low limit, or on corporate networks where you NEED to only install once then going for the 3.3.2 makes sense even if that means dipping-out on the extra compatibility. There is nothing scary about it. No file corruption or anything outrageous at the very worst, assuming everything goes wrong, all that's needed is a new download and an install of the 3.3.2. Not really a big deal. Many people will still have their old download of a previous release anyway. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Nuno J. Silva > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 13:35:44 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal > > On 2011-06-11, Cor Nouws wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Apparently we find ourselves in an interesting situation. With the > > 3.4.0 release, there are obviously more questions, people stumbling > > over bugs. > > - So to help the users, it is useful to point them to the fact that > > there is a stable 3.3.2 (3.3.3 soon) that they can use with more > > comfort. > > - However ... it is both valuable for the project, when the all do > > some work with the 'early adopter' versions. > > So, I would propose that the regular helping hands on this list, try > > to allow for both interests. Apart from the mentioned arguments, it > > may as well be appealing for quite some people to, to try working with > > relative new features etc etc. > > > > What do you think, would it be possible and useful (of course > > depending on the individual mail) to pay attention to both aspects? > > > > That would obviously result in an attitude in which people are not > > only pushed back from the 3.4.0 to an older version, nor withhold > > explanation about the choice they have to work with one or > > another.. Well, each can find his own short or long sentences to > > explain :-) > > I think I understand, we need a way to say "3.4.0 is expected to have > problems" without scaring the user away. > > I'm afraid some ways of warning about it will just scare the early > adopters, moving them to 3.3.2, without even a bug report about the bug. > > Maybe one should instead focus on saying "if you can't use LibO with > this bug, please try 3.3.2 instead, otherwise you're welcome to continue > using 3.4.0 and report any bugs you find". > > "3.4.0 should be usable, except for bugs like the one you just > found. This release was done exactly to catch hidden bugs." > > Another way of making it less scary could be a list of known issues, so > one can say, by reading the list, if some issue will affect his/her > workflow. Is there such list? (more or less up to date?) > > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter.png > > :-D > > -- > Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) > gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Tom, The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its defragger. Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in the registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere, about speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it comes very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV uninstallers out there to help with it. Roxy Hi :) Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and stuff. I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them almost completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which makes a huge difference. This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. Thanks and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a >cleaner > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > there >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. If >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that has >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you >what >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very seldom >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my >machine. > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open >this >type file with this program". > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > Roxy Robinson > > > Thanks for the start: > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > the move > > The finish went like this:- > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > programs > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > Program folders. > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > "open with". > > So its whoever is installed first! > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > LibreOffice. > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > regards > > John B > >- >- > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems especially >in > > Windows. > > > > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both >are > > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i >don't > > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their > > reliability or effectiveness. > > > > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled >within > > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the >command-line, > > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite > > high. > > > > > > Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant >program > > is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." >option. > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John B > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28 > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" > > > > To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make > > LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there). > >
Re: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2
Tom, Thanks for your suggestions - I guess I will have to try that since I'm not getting what I want with what I'm doing. This is "off" the subject issue, but I come from a very small town. My high school class - 1961 - was the first to got over 50. We had 60 in the class, 55 who "walked" on graduation night. The other 5 finished in summer school. The classes continued to grow after that, though I don't think they ever went over 100; and are probably running around 70-75 now, if not less. I just finished organizing my class's 50th reunion and am now putting together a reunion for the classes of 1955-1964. The total number of students during that period is, according to my spreadsheet, 500. I dare say, I knew, and remember about 490 of those, along with quite a few others from the classes before and after. We were all like one big family - you usually knew whole families because you knew someone in your class, or within 2 or 3 years of your class. Your classmates were, essentially, your group of friends. Anyway, every class in this group has, in some format, a database of their classmates and their information. Each class has a few that have gone "missing in action", but we are all working together to find everyone. This will be the 4th, I think, combined reunion like this over the past 50 years, and this combined database is something that got started after the first one. But, it has not been updated since the last reunion in 1997. Every classmate - there are a few exceptions - has given there info to freely share with everyone. And everyone at this reunion will receive a copy of this spreadsheet I'm working on. Roxy Hi :) I did something similar once. It's easier to keep the data intact, in the 3 separate columns for data entry and for sorting the lists into alphabetical order and stuff but then use a 2nd worksheet (2nd tab at the bottom) to use formulas to add the 3 names together. eg A2 = Sheet1.A2 & " " & Sheet1.B2 & " " & Sheet1.C2 You might have renamed the worksheet tabs so just swap the new name for "Sheet1" but still make sure there is a dot . after it and before the cell address. There are issues with "Data Protection" and respecting people's right to privacy but if they have given you their addresses and know that it's for sharing with the whole class then that sort-of implies that they have given you permission. I'm not sure wheter it's legally enough but it probably gives you a good position. Good luck and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 15:51:55 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2 > > I have a 15 page spreadsheet of classmate addresses, phone numbers, email, > etc. >I "manipulate" this information in several different ways to give my classmates >different kinds of "directories". Anyway, their names are in the first 3 >columns. This particular spreadsheet is going to include ALL the information on >each person, will be printed on legal sized paper in landscape format, so I >need >a little more room to contain everything on the width of the page. > So (SEVERAL TIMES) I have merged the cells in the first 3 columns. This >contains the parts of their names, and allows me to conserve enough room to >get >everything on the width of the page. But every time I close LO, and then come >back to work on this spreadsheet, the cells are no longer "merged". They will >not stay merged. I haven't gotten all the way through the spreadsheet - at one >time - to merge the cells. Would the "un-merged" cells that are left in the 3 >columns keep the ones above them from staying merged, or am I doing something >wrong? I just don't understand - time after time - I merge them, come back and >they are no long merged?? > Roxy > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 04:55:12 AM Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > Pedro i have to disagree with one of your points although i almost > entirely agree with the rest. The 3.4.0 HAD to be released when it > was even tho it wasn't ready (as we have seen from the jump in weird > problems posted to the users list). > > > Oracle were playing tactical games, rushing out their 1st release > since their 3.3.0 and calling it 3.4.0. LibreOffice has had 2 clear > releases since their 3.3.0 (the 3.3.1 and the 3.3.2) and were > working on the 3rd, due at the time to be called 3.3.4. Some > segments of the press were hailing LibreOffice as much faster > developing than OOo because LO's 3.3.0 released the day before OOo's > 3.3.0. BUT by calling their first release since then the "3.4.0" > the public & media's perception would be that Oracle had > leap-frogged over LO and regained the lead. (even tho it contained > less work and less added functionality than the 3.3.1 (or even than > the LO 3.3.0!)). Tom have to disagree with coming out with a new version just to get it out because a competior did something. In my 40+ years in the It field I saw many companies do this and lose their reputation for good quality products. ( Xerox, Data General, Digital Equipment all gone from making main frames, mini's and other computer related products). My thoughts are come out with a good quality product when its ready. This does not mean wait forever, but get rid of themajor issues, add functionality, test and then release. (Calc is good example ,in my mind, of a product with problems, also some in writer when dealing with docx). I'm trying to document and bug report the ones I see, but some are documents I cannot attach because of the information they contain). I will be glad to test 3.4.0 but I need to keep 3.3.2 running due to monthly commitments. I hope to load opensuse 12.0 this week and then 3.4.0 with it to test. Russ openSUSE 11.4(2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop)|KDE Platform Version 4.6.3 (4.6.3) "release 4"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA- Linux-x86_64-270.41.06) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 01:35:34 AM Cor Nouws wrote: > Hi planas, > > planas wrote (11-06-11 06:12) > > > On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 03:18 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: > >> That would obviously result in an attitude in which people are not > >> only pushed back from the 3.4.0 to an older version, nor withhold > >> explanation about the choice they have to work with one or > >> another.. Well, each can find his own short or long sentences to > >> explain :-) > > > > I have noticed that 3.4.0 seems to support 2010 docx and xlsx > > formats better than 3.3.2. I have not had any major issues with > > 3.4.0, quirky one issue in Calc but not a show stopper. > > Indeed. That supports an approach to let people work with the new > version too. Bugs however, are included. See e.g. > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/#LO340 > > Best, Can you install both at same time? I would like to test 3.4.0 to see if any of the calc problems I have with 3.3.2 are fixed. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Hi :) Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind. It's practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to' stick with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards compatible. Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple of years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and stuff. I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags, especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them almost completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file) which makes a huge difference. This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation. Thanks and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for > a >cleaner > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and > there >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. If > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that has > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you >what >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very >seldom >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my >machine. > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open >this >type file with this program". > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. > Roxy Robinson > > > Thanks for the start: > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on > the move > > The finish went like this:- > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 > programs > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the > Program folders. > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with > "open with". > > So its whoever is installed first! > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to > LibreOffice. > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. > > regards > > John B > >- >- > > > > > > On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems > > especially >in > > Windows. > > > > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both >are > > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i >don't > > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their > > reliability or effectiveness. > > > > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled >within > > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the >command-line, > > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite > > high. > > > > > > Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant >program > > is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." >option. > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John B > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28 > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" > > > > To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make > > LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there). > > > > Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate >LibreOffice > > manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice or Writer > > (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the browsing list. > > > > Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs list, whilst > > OpenOffice does and works fine. > > > > > > Windows XP pro sp3 > > Libre Office 3.3& 3.4 > > > > John B > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to >postm
Re: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2
Hi :) I did something similar once. It's easier to keep the data intact, in the 3 separate columns for data entry and for sorting the lists into alphabetical order and stuff but then use a 2nd worksheet (2nd tab at the bottom) to use formulas to add the 3 names together. eg A2 = Sheet1.A2 & " " & Sheet1.B2 & " " & Sheet1.C2 You might have renamed the worksheet tabs so just swap the new name for "Sheet1" but still make sure there is a dot . after it and before the cell address. There are issues with "Data Protection" and respecting people's right to privacy but if they have given you their addresses and know that it's for sharing with the whole class then that sort-of implies that they have given you permission. I'm not sure wheter it's legally enough but it probably gives you a good position. Good luck and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Roxy Robinson > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 15:51:55 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2 > > I have a 15 page spreadsheet of classmate addresses, phone numbers, email, > etc. >I "manipulate" this information in several different ways to give my >classmates >different kinds of "directories". Anyway, their names are in the first 3 >columns. This particular spreadsheet is going to include ALL the information >on >each person, will be printed on legal sized paper in landscape format, so I >need >a little more room to contain everything on the width of the page. > So (SEVERAL TIMES) I have merged the cells in the first 3 columns. This >contains the parts of their names, and allows me to conserve enough room to >get >everything on the width of the page. But every time I close LO, and then come >back to work on this spreadsheet, the cells are no longer "merged". They will >not stay merged. I haven't gotten all the way through the spreadsheet - at one > >time - to merge the cells. Would the "un-merged" cells that are left in the 3 >columns keep the ones above them from staying merged, or am I doing something >wrong? I just don't understand - time after time - I merge them, come back and > >they are no long merged?? > Roxy > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling, and there is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few years. If you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers" that has left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show you what it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick and choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very seldom have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted on my machine. On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a program to "open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom, left hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always open this type file with this program". Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future. Roxy Robinson Thanks for the start: I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on the move The finish went like this:- Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 programs and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the Program folders. Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with "open with". So its whoever is installed first! I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to LibreOffice. BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. regards John B - On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems especially in > Windows. > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both are > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i don't > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their > reliability or effectiveness. > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled > within > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the > command-line, > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite > high. > > > Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant > program > is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." option. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > > From: John B > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" > > To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make > LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there). > > Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate LibreOffice > manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice or Writer > (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the browsing list. > > Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs list, whilst > OpenOffice does and works fine. > > > Windows XP pro sp3 > Libre Office 3.3& 3.4 > > John B > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Can't post through gmane
Posting through gmane is broken. Messages sent can't be delivered since the change to @global.libreoffice.org. Here is the message I get: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: us...@libreoffice.org SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:: host bilbo.documentfoundation.org [178.63.91.70]: 550 5.1.1: Recipient address rejected: User unknown -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. -- Return-path: Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from) id 1QVPNf-0002ht-23 forus...@libreoffice.org; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:41:43 +0200 Received: from 70.64.219.47 ([70.64.219.47]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:41:43 +0200 Received: from larry.gusaas by 70.64.219.47 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:41:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane:http://gmane.org/ To:us...@libreoffice.org From: Larry Gusaas Subject: Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:41:29 -0600 Lines: 20 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Merge cell problem LO3.3.2.2
I have a 15 page spreadsheet of classmate addresses, phone numbers, email, etc. I "manipulate" this information in several different ways to give my classmates different kinds of "directories". Anyway, their names are in the first 3 columns. This particular spreadsheet is going to include ALL the information on each person, will be printed on legal sized paper in landscape format, so I need a little more room to contain everything on the width of the page. So (SEVERAL TIMES) I have merged the cells in the first 3 columns. This contains the parts of their names, and allows me to conserve enough room to get everything on the width of the page. But every time I close LO, and then come back to work on this spreadsheet, the cells are no longer "merged". They will not stay merged. I haven't gotten all the way through the spreadsheet - at one time - to merge the cells. Would the "un-merged" cells that are left in the 3 columns keep the ones above them from staying merged, or am I doing something wrong? I just don't understand - time after time - I merge them, come back and they are no long merged?? Roxy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
On 2011/06/11 5:55 AM Tom Davies wrote concerning "Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal": Oracle were playing tactical games, rushing out their 1st release since their 3.3.0 and calling it 3.4.0. OpenOffice.org 3.4.0 has not been released. OOo 3.3.0 is the last version released in the stable line. In the development line OOo-Dev 3.4.0 Beta 1 is the latest version. There are usually more Betas, then Release Candidates before the final release. There is no tactical game. This is the standard sequence of Dev releases for OOo. Quit making stuff up. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a cleaner
Thanks for the start: I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was on the move The finish went like this:- Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3 programs and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the Program folders. Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open with" Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with" Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with "open with". So its whoever is installed first! I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to LibreOffice. BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing. regards John B - On 10/06/2011 21:15, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems especially in Windows. There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when both are installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but i don't have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared their reliability or effectiveness. Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is enabled within OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the command-line, such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is quite high. Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the relevant program is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with .." option. Regards from Tom :) From: John B To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to make LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there). Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate LibreOffice manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice or Writer (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the browsing list. Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs list, whilst OpenOffice does and works fine. Windows XP pro sp3 Libre Office 3.3& 3.4 John B -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4
What I am wondering about is the meaning of "is not signed"? I use 64-bit DEBS, but I never got an error saying something about a archived file not being signed. What causes that error message? Is it something to do with a corrupt file or something to do with the way it was archived? That is the real issue right now. I have not tried 3.4.0 on my systems [Ubuntu 64-bit, and 32-bit, plus Vista 32-bit]. Instead of saying the person should wait for a next version, we need to figure out what is causing the error that is cropping up. I do not know if downloading is the issue, but here are the two we have on the NA Community DVD. These are a direct link to the 64-bit RPM that is on the NA testing portal - 3.3.2, and then 3.4.0. 3.3.2 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/LibreOffice-Install-Files/Linux%20RPM%20-%2064%20bit/LibO_3.3.2_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz 3.4.0 http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/LibreOffice-Install-Files/Linux%20RPM%20-%2064%20bit/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz On 06/11/2011 08:33 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Or even better (perhaps) wait for a week or 2 and then download the 3.3.3 after initial bugs are ironed out http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan Regards from Tom :) - Original Message From: Tom Davies To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 13:28:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4 Ouch! If it has failed again i would definitely try the 3.3.2 instead of the 3.4.0. I tend to have more luck with 32bit versions even on my 64bit machine to the point where i gave-up and installed a 32bit OS (Ubuntu 32bit). The devs mailing list might be more helpful at getting the 64bit 3.4.0 to work because it's quite an advanced problem so the users list probably hasn't got anyone that knows this stuff on that level. Apols and regards from Tom :) - Original Message From: Ben Davis To: us...@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 3:42:15 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4 I tried downloading this file again (LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz) from mirror server http://mirror.learn.ac.lk/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.4.0/rpm/x86_64/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz z z the SHA256 is correct (identical to hash on your website,,,e76e7d60898cf9e085b73c962cc6cb2045449abbe6998a56765b8f4da5600e9d), so no download corruption can you tell me how I can fix this or which forum/email to use to deal with this problem (please). On 9 June 2011 12:57, Ben Daviswrote: hi I just downloaded 3.4 x64 linux package from your website, and got this installation error: * Package libobasis3.4-en-US-3.4.0-12.x86_64.rpm is not signed* downloaded aprox 12 noon Malaysian time (5am BST...4AM GMT?) June 9th Do I need to download again? or can I import signature? > thanks -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
On 2011-06-11, Cor Nouws wrote: > Hi all, > > Apparently we find ourselves in an interesting situation. With the > 3.4.0 release, there are obviously more questions, people stumbling > over bugs. > - So to help the users, it is useful to point them to the fact that > there is a stable 3.3.2 (3.3.3 soon) that they can use with more > comfort. > - However ... it is both valuable for the project, when the all do > some work with the 'early adopter' versions. > So, I would propose that the regular helping hands on this list, try > to allow for both interests. Apart from the mentioned arguments, it > may as well be appealing for quite some people to, to try working with > relative new features etc etc. > > What do you think, would it be possible and useful (of course > depending on the individual mail) to pay attention to both aspects? > > That would obviously result in an attitude in which people are not > only pushed back from the 3.4.0 to an older version, nor withhold > explanation about the choice they have to work with one or > another.. Well, each can find his own short or long sentences to > explain :-) I think I understand, we need a way to say "3.4.0 is expected to have problems" without scaring the user away. I'm afraid some ways of warning about it will just scare the early adopters, moving them to 3.3.2, without even a bug report about the bug. Maybe one should instead focus on saying "if you can't use LibO with this bug, please try 3.3.2 instead, otherwise you're welcome to continue using 3.4.0 and report any bugs you find". "3.4.0 should be usable, except for bugs like the one you just found. This release was done exactly to catch hidden bugs." Another way of making it less scary could be a list of known issues, so one can say, by reading the list, if some issue will affect his/her workflow. Is there such list? (more or less up to date?) > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter.png :-D -- Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4
Or even better (perhaps) wait for a week or 2 and then download the 3.3.3 after initial bugs are ironed out http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Tom Davies > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 13:28:31 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4 > > Ouch! If it has failed again i would definitely try the 3.3.2 instead of > the > 3.4.0. I tend to have more luck with 32bit versions even on my 64bit > machine >to > > the point where i gave-up and installed a 32bit OS (Ubuntu 32bit). > > The devs mailing list might be more helpful at getting the 64bit 3.4.0 to > work > > because it's quite an advanced problem so the users list probably hasn't got > anyone that knows this stuff on that level. > > Apols and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Ben Davis > > To: us...@libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 3:42:15 > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4 > > > > I tried downloading this file again > > (LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz) from mirror server >>http://mirror.learn.ac.lk/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.4.0/rpm/x86_64/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz >z > >z > > the SHA256 is correct (identical to hash on your > > website,,,e76e7d60898cf9e085b73c962cc6cb2045449abbe6998a56765b8f4da5600e9d), > > so no download corruption > > > > can you tell me how I can fix this or which forum/email to use to deal with > > this problem (please). > > On 9 June 2011 12:57, Ben Daviswrote: > > > > > hi > > > I just downloaded 3.4 x64 linux package from your website, and got this > > > installation error: > > > * Package libobasis3.4-en-US-3.4.0-12.x86_64.rpm is not signed* > > > downloaded aprox 12 noon Malaysian time (5am BST...4AM GMT?) June 9th > > > Do I need to download again? or can I import signature? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to >postmas...@documentfoundation.org > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4
Ouch! If it has failed again i would definitely try the 3.3.2 instead of the 3.4.0. I tend to have more luck with 32bit versions even on my 64bit machine to the point where i gave-up and installed a 32bit OS (Ubuntu 32bit). The devs mailing list might be more helpful at getting the 64bit 3.4.0 to work because it's quite an advanced problem so the users list probably hasn't got anyone that knows this stuff on that level. Apols and regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Ben Davis > To: us...@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 3:42:15 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4 > > I tried downloading this file again > (LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz) from mirror server >http://mirror.learn.ac.lk/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.4.0/rpm/x86_64/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz >z > the SHA256 is correct (identical to hash on your > website,,,e76e7d60898cf9e085b73c962cc6cb2045449abbe6998a56765b8f4da5600e9d), > so no download corruption > > can you tell me how I can fix this or which forum/email to use to deal with > this problem (please). > On 9 June 2011 12:57, Ben Davis wrote: > > > hi > > I just downloaded 3.4 x64 linux package from your website, and got this > > installation error: > > * Package libobasis3.4-en-US-3.4.0-12.x86_64.rpm is not signed* > > downloaded aprox 12 noon Malaysian time (5am BST...4AM GMT?) June 9th > > Do I need to download again? or can I import signature? > > > > thanks > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
Hi :) Pedro i have to disagree with one of your points although i almost entirely agree with the rest. The 3.4.0 HAD to be released when it was even tho it wasn't ready (as we have seen from the jump in weird problems posted to the users list). Oracle were playing tactical games, rushing out their 1st release since their 3.3.0 and calling it 3.4.0. LibreOffice has had 2 clear releases since their 3.3.0 (the 3.3.1 and the 3.3.2) and were working on the 3rd, due at the time to be called 3.3.4. Some segments of the press were hailing LibreOffice as much faster developing than OOo because LO's 3.3.0 released the day before OOo's 3.3.0. BUT by calling their first release since then the "3.4.0" the public & media's perception would be that Oracle had leap-frogged over LO and regained the lead. (even tho it contained less work and less added functionality than the 3.3.1 (or even than the LO 3.3.0!)). TDF showed that it was highly responsive, adaptable and crucially NOT stupid about PR and dirty tricks by changing the name to 3.4.0 and releasing fast. As a result Oracle have "caved in", realising they couldn't hope to compete against TDF. Oddly, despite several communications with them at all levels they didn't reailse they stood to gain a LOT from co-operating with TDF, including the highly profitable side of thing, paid corporate user-support (telephones, forums etc). Hopefully the friendlier Apache Foundation or even TDF might be able to offer that level of support. THere is plenty of room for co-operative competition in that area. I think Oracle took everyone by surprise in caving-in so fast and i would be even more surprised if Oracle didn't try to thro something more damaging at TDF even now. I suspect TDF Steering and Founders are prepared for it. Just now we temporarily have to deal with the fall-out from the easy win. Which is annoying but quite amusing at the same time. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: plino > To: us...@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 12:29:01 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal > > Hi Cour > (none of the following criticisms are directed at you, who are one of the > few (only?) members of the SC who sees this project as a productivity tool > for the users) > > I don't know if you are aware that installing LibO 3.4.0 under Windows > silently uninstalls 3.3 without asking (even if the installer is run in > customized mode). Therefore it is not possible to have both versions > installed under Windows. I know this is possible under Linux but this > project doesn't care a f*ck about Windows users (even though they are the > majority of users, but hey, who cares?) so one can only recommend one > version OR the other. > > Given the degree of regression and bugs added (I totally agree with Tom that > 3.4.0 "sounds more like a beta-release") and that the developers are not too > worried about regressions, in my opinion if someone is using 3.3.2 for work > (and believe me: even if the LO site has a disclaimer about 3.4 being > experimental, all other download sites/mirrors don't, so expect a LOT of > angry users in the near future) I will not recommend 3.4 for anything other > than playing around. > > In my opinion, releasing 3.4.0 as Stable was a major error and a shot on the > foot for this project. > > But the all-mighty Release Schedule as to be met, no matter what comes out > of it... > > Regards, > Pedro > > -- > View this message in context: >http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/helping-Users-and-LibreOffice-proposal-tp3051441p3052293.html > > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
Hi Cour (none of the following criticisms are directed at you, who are one of the few (only?) members of the SC who sees this project as a productivity tool for the users) I don't know if you are aware that installing LibO 3.4.0 under Windows silently uninstalls 3.3 without asking (even if the installer is run in customized mode). Therefore it is not possible to have both versions installed under Windows. I know this is possible under Linux but this project doesn't care a f*ck about Windows users (even though they are the majority of users, but hey, who cares?) so one can only recommend one version OR the other. Given the degree of regression and bugs added (I totally agree with Tom that 3.4.0 "sounds more like a beta-release") and that the developers are not too worried about regressions, in my opinion if someone is using 3.3.2 for work (and believe me: even if the LO site has a disclaimer about 3.4 being experimental, all other download sites/mirrors don't, so expect a LOT of angry users in the near future) I will not recommend 3.4 for anything other than playing around. In my opinion, releasing 3.4.0 as Stable was a major error and a shot on the foot for this project. But the all-mighty Release Schedule as to be met, no matter what comes out of it... Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/helping-Users-and-LibreOffice-proposal-tp3051441p3052293.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
Hi :) People do seem to have had a LOT of strange quirkiness from the 3.4.0 that wasn't in the 3.3.2. The 3.4.0 seems to be a regression and sounds more like a beta-release especially with the disclaimer. However i don't see this as a huge problem because the 3.4.0 is clearly a stepping-stone on the way to very much lighter-weight code-base and we can expect the 3.4.1 to have tidied up trivial issues. "You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs". I like the idea of the 3.3.x being stable branch and the 3.4.x being testing/development. If we can encourage people to use the 3.4.x series, post bug-reports and then switch back to the 3.3.x series for serious use then we have something very useful as long as we promote the 3.3.x series as being the first one to try in corporate deployments. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Steve Edmonds > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 5:58:50 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal > > > > On 11/06/11 16:12, planas wrote: > > Cor > > > > On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 03:18 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Apparently we find ourselves in an interesting situation. With the 3.4.0 > >> release, there are obviously more questions, people stumbling over bugs. > >> - So to help the users, it is useful to point them to the fact that > >> there is a stable 3.3.2 (3.3.3 soon) that they can use with more comfort. > >>- However ... it is both valuable for the project, when the all do > >> some work with the 'early adopter' versions. > >> So, I would propose that the regular helping hands on this list, try to > >> allow for both interests. Apart from the mentioned arguments, it may as > >> well be appealing for quite some people to, to try working with relative > >> new features etc etc. > >> > >> What do you think, would it be possible and useful (of course depending > >> on the individual mail) to pay attention to both aspects? > >> > >> That would obviously result in an attitude in which people are not only > >> pushed back from the 3.4.0 to an older version, nor withhold explanation > >> about the choice they have to work with one or another.. Well, each can > >> find his own short or long sentences to explain :-) > >> > >> some related links: > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport > >> http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/13/announcing-a-new-beta-release/ > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter.png > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> -- > >> - Cor > >>- http://nl.libreoffice.org > >> > > > > I have noticed that 3.4.0 seems to support 2010 docx and xlsx formats > > better >than 3.3.2. I have not had any major issues with 3.4.0, quirky one issue in >Calc but not a show stopper. > > > > > I have 3.4.0 on my laptop trialing it, then to filter to the desktop at > home with 3.3.2 and finally to the office with the most stable version. > I am happy to answer to any version I am using, I think if the person > asking the question is clear what version he is using the answers will > be appropriate. > steve > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts)
Hi :) That is expected behaviour. It happens in Ubuntu 10.04 LO 3.3.2 too. Perhaps you wanted a "Paste special" option? Otherwise formatting could be a mixed jumble making the page look quite strange? Regards from Tom :) - Original Message > From: Steve Edmonds > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 6:09:09 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Copy and paste in 3.4.0 Calc (fonts) > > Hi. > Came accross a strange thing today, peculiar to 3.4.0 on OSX, this > doesn't happen in 3.3.2 on linux. > I opened a new calc, put a number on sheet 1 A3 > On sheet 2 I referenced the cell on sheet 1 (=Sheet1.A3), say in cell A1. > > The font on the sheet 2 was Arial 10 pt. > I wanted to copy the formula, so I clicked on sheet2.A1 and copied the > formula =Sheet1.A3 from the formula bar. I pasted it into a cell (say > sheet2.A3) and the font changed and the size went to 8pt. > I click on cell sheet2.A3, copy the formula from the formula bar and > past into say sheet2.A5 and the font changes to 6.5pt. > > It seems the font style is being copied from the gui? Does this happen > on linux or windows with 3.4.0. > steve > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
Hi planas, planas wrote (11-06-11 06:12) On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 03:18 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: That would obviously result in an attitude in which people are not only pushed back from the 3.4.0 to an older version, nor withhold explanation about the choice they have to work with one or another.. Well, each can find his own short or long sentences to explain :-) I have noticed that 3.4.0 seems to support 2010 docx and xlsx formats better than 3.3.2. I have not had any major issues with 3.4.0, quirky one issue in Calc but not a show stopper. Indeed. That supports an approach to let people work with the new version too. Bugs however, are included. See e.g. http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/#LO340 Best, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4
Hi Ben, Ben Davis wrote (11-06-11 04:42) I tried downloading this file again (LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz) from mirror server http://mirror.learn.ac.lk/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.4.0/rpm/x86_64/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz the SHA256 is correct (identical to hash on your website,,,e76e7d60898cf9e085b73c962cc6cb2045449abbe6998a56765b8f4da5600e9d), so no download corruption can you tell me how I can fix this or which forum/email to use to deal with this problem (please). installation error: * Package libobasis3.4-en-US-3.4.0-12.x86_64.rpm is not signed* Maybe related ?? I recently downloaded 3.3.3rc1 several times. I start my 'installation' with tar -zxvf ... gives a non-archive error. What works is gunzip ... and then tar -xvf However, this is obviously Debian based. Best, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: install problem LibO 3.4
I tried downloading this file again (LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz) from mirror server http://mirror.learn.ac.lk/tdf/libreoffice/stable/3.4.0/rpm/x86_64/LibO_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz the SHA256 is correct (identical to hash on your website,,,e76e7d60898cf9e085b73c962cc6cb2045449abbe6998a56765b8f4da5600e9d), so no download corruption can you tell me how I can fix this or which forum/email to use to deal with this problem (please). On 9 June 2011 12:57, Ben Davis wrote: > hi > I just downloaded 3.4 x64 linux package from your website, and got this > installation error: > * Package libobasis3.4-en-US-3.4.0-12.x86_64.rpm is not signed* > downloaded aprox 12 noon Malaysian time (5am BST...4AM GMT?) June 9th > Do I need to download again? or can I import signature? > > thanks > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
