Re: [libreoffice-users] Compute difference

[John B]

Thanks Tom

Dear Dave

It does work - you have to format the input  cells as stated.

b4 is formatted to Date, 31/Dec
c4 is text "to"
d4 is formatted to Date, 31/dec

then in

E4 =days360(b4,d4,3)

then input your 2 dates into b4 and d4 as in just type:-  01/07/2011 and
22/07/2011

and the answer in E4 is 21

you might want to add +1 to the E4 formula depending on if you decide 
the answer in E4 should be 22


I note that 1/7/2011 is the same as 01/07/2011, as is just 1/7 (as it 
auto inputs this year)


regards

John B

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On 22/07/2011 20:41, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think John's answer was mostly so you could copy&paste into the right places!


To do the formatting in the first part of his answer click on the cell and then
look up at the menus at the top of the LibreOffice window.  The menus should be
something like

File  ..  View ... Edit ... (err i can't remember) ... Format ... (more i can't
remember) ... Window ... Help
So, click on the "Format" menu, choose  "Cell" and a pop-up box should appear
with lots of "tabs" at the top.  Choose the first one, "General" (or
something).  Somewhere on the left should be an option for "Date" which then
gives you various sub-options.

Hope this helps but there is a guide with screen-shots somewhere that might help
so don't worry if it's not obvious.  See Chapter 5

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Dave Douglas
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 22 July, 2011 20:06:33
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Compute difference

Thanks, but I am not a programmer.  I have troubles being understood in
English.  Is there a way of doing it through the menus?

Feeling unworthy,
Dave


-Original Message- From: John B
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:00 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Compute difference

Try this

b4 is formatted to Date, 31/Dec
c4 is text "to"
d4 is formatted to Date, 31/dec

E4 = ((-B4+D4)/7 +(1/7)

f4= Trunc(e4)

g4= (+e4-F4)*7


then type in your 2 dates into b4 and d4 as in  01/07/2011 and
22/07/2011


regards

John B







On 22/07/2011 15:15, Jérôme Fenal wrote:

Hi all,

I need to do a difference in days between two dates, _without_ taking into
account leap years (e.g. considering all years are 365 days long).

The right way to do that would be to use function
DAYS360(date1;date2;method) using method = 3 as in other financial
functions, but it does seems to be implemented (only 0&   non 0 are
meaningful for this function currently).

Does anybody know how to still do this without ressorting to a procedural
language ?

Regards,

J.

PS: I'll be digging into BZ to see if there is already a request for such an
enhancement to DAYS360().




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Given up spellchecking?

[Mark Stanton]

Hi Both ("all" in fact)

This seems to be the crux of it.

> On my system
> Ubuntu/Pinguy 11.04, LO 3.4.1) the spell checker is Hundspell. 

Hunspell isn't appearing in the list of "Available language modules", 
whereas it does on my Windoze setup.  It looks like it's been vaped. But 
how do I get it back?  I've been wandering around the filesystem looking 
for something that sounds like spelling, but I can't find it.

The "edit" option on that dialogue edits the available modules.  Those are 
the ones that insist in being in "English (US)" even when I change them to 
"English (UK)".

?

Regards
Mark Stanton
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[libreoffice-users] How to import a txt file into an existing Calc sheet?

[George R . Kasica]

Hello:

I have a currently existing Excel 2007 sheet that I can do a (In
Excel) Refresh All for \\APOLLO\e\WeatherLink\JACW3\download.txt which
is a test file in the format of:

  Temp HiLow   Out WindWind Hi
Hi   Wind   Heat  THSWRain  Solar Solar Hi
Solar UVHi HeatCoolIn InIn In In
In Air  Soil 1   SoilLeaf  Wind  WindISS Arc.
  DateTime Out   Temp   Temp   HumDew Speed   Dir   Run
Speed   Dir  Chill  IndexTHW  Index   BarRain  Rate   Rad.
EnergyRad.UV   Dose   UV D-D D-DTemp   HumDew
HeatEMC Density ET   Moist.  Temp 1  Wet 1  Samp   Tx   Recept
Int.
--
 7/22/11   0:01   75.6   75.6   75.669   64.7   1.0   WNW  0.02
1.0   WNW   75.6   77.3   77.3   75.1  1009.5  0.00  0.00 0 0.00
0 0.0  0.00   0.0   0.000   0.007   79.546   56.9 79.3   8.46
.07220.00015369.0 15  91 39.1 1 
 7/22/11   0:02   75.6   75.6   75.669   64.7   2.0   WNW  0.03
3.0   WNW   75.6   77.3   77.3   75.1  1009.5  0.00  0.00 0 0.00
0 0.0  0.00   0.0   0.000   0.007   79.547   57.5 79.3   8.66
.07220.00015369.0 15 201 87.0 1 
 7/22/11   0:03   75.6   75.6   75.669   64.7   1.0   WNW  0.02
2.0   WNW   75.6   77.3   77.3   75.1  1009.5  0.00  0.00 0 0.00
0 0.0  0.00   0.0   0.000   0.007   79.547   57.5 79.3   8.66
.07220.00015369.0 15 221 95.7 1 
 7/22/11   0:04   75.6   75.6   75.669   64.7   1.0   WNW  0.02
3.0   WNW   75.6   77.3   77.3   75.1  1009.5  0.00  0.00 0 0.00
0 0.0  0.00   0.0   0.000   0.007   79.548   58.1 79.4   8.86
.07210.00015369.0 15 211 91.3 1 
 7/22/11   0:05   75.6   75.6   75.669   64.7   1.0   WNW  0.02
3.0   WNW   75.6   77.3   77.3   75.1  1009.5  0.00  0.00 0 0.00
0 0.0  0.00   0.0   0.000   0.007   79.548   58.1 79.4   8.86
.07210.00015369.0 15 211 91.3 1 

and is properly formatted automatically by a Text-To Colums setup
already in the MS Excel sheet so all I need to do each day is Refresh
All and select the filename and it pulls in the data in the proper
column.

For the life of me I cannot see how to do this in Calc...and opening
the existing sheet gets the right format, but I'm at a loss of how to
get new data into it without redoing the whole text to columns every
time (not an option due to time constraints here each day when this
has to happen...data is available at 59 past the hour and needs to jut
come in to be used by 15 past the next hour.

Can anyone help with this? As of right now its the one thing keeping
me from dumping the Office 2007 suite.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to import a txt file into an existing Calc sheet?

[Brian Barker]

At 07:48 23/07/2011 -0500, George R. Kasica wrote:
I have a currently existing Excel 2007 sheet that I can do a (In 
Excel) Refresh All for \\APOLLO\e\WeatherLink\JACW3\download.txt ...


So that's a file available to your system?

... which is a te[x]t file in the format of: [...] and is properly 
formatted automatically by a Text-To-Columns setup already in the MS 
Excel sheet so all I need to do each day is Refresh All and select 
the filename and it pulls in the data in the proper column.


For the life of me I cannot see how to do this in Calc...and opening 
the existing sheet gets the right format, but I'm at a loss of how 
to get new data into it without redoing the whole text to columns 
every time ...


Try this:
o  Go to Insert | Sheet From File..., browse to your .txt file, and 
click Insert.
o  In the Text Import dialogue, under "Separator options", select 
"Separated by", "Space", and "Merge delimiters".

o  Click OK.
o  In the Insert Sheet dialogue, select the position of your new 
sheet and - crucially - tick Link.

o  Click OK.

Each time you open this spreadsheet, you will have the option to 
update this new sheet; alternatively, you can go to Edit | Links... 
and click Update.  Note that, since the entire sheet is updated, any 
calculations you perform on that sheet will be lost - so you will 
have to move your calculations to other sheets.


If this data is downloaded from the web, you may prefer instead to 
use Insert | Link to External Data... and import directly from the web page.


... (not an option due to time constraints here each day when this 
has to happen...data is available at 59 past the hour and needs to 
just come in to be used by 15 past the next hour.


You can do a lot in sixteen minutes!

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Given up spellchecking?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Just open the package manager and search for hunspell in there.  Actually i did 
a search for libreoffice and hunspell appeared in my package manager.  I don't 
know how to acess the package manager in Fedora.  I use Synaptic in Ubuntu and 
i 
have a funny feeling that fedora also uses Synaptic but i could easily be 
wrong.  The package manager is usually in your "System" menu or in "Tools" or 
"Utilities".  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Mark Stanton 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 23 July, 2011 12:29:37
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Given up spellchecking?

Hi Both ("all" in fact)

This seems to be the crux of it.

> On my system
> Ubuntu/Pinguy 11.04, LO 3.4.1) the spell checker is Hundspell. 

Hunspell isn't appearing in the list of "Available language modules", 
whereas it does on my Windoze setup.  It looks like it's been vaped. But 
how do I get it back?  I've been wandering around the filesystem looking 
for something that sounds like spelling, but I can't find it.

The "edit" option on that dialogue edits the available modules.  Those are 
the ones that insist in being in "English (US)" even when I change them to 
"English (UK)".

?

Regards
Mark Stanton
One small step for mankind...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] help recovering?

[David B Teague sr]

On 7/22/2011 8:26 PM, planas wrote:

Sorry about the problem. One idea I have is make copy of the file and
change the extension to txt. My idea is that the formatting data would
then be ignored when you open the copy. If it works you may get some
formatting gibberish included with the text.

-- Jay Lozier
odt files are zip archives. Changing the extension to txt is almost 
guaranteed to get you nowhere. If you make a copy and change the 
extension to .zip, and if you succeed in unzipping it, you will find 
interesting things in there.


The file Content.xml contains your text with xml stuff, but if you work 
at it you may be able to extract your data. There may be extractor 
programs that will do this for you.


The downside in all this is that if the odt file is damaged, the zip 
archiver may not be able to open it.


I wish you all the luck in the world.

David Teague

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[libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[JeepNut]

On 7/22/2011 8:26 PM, planas wrote:
> Sorry about the problem. One idea I have is make copy of the file and
> change the extension to txt. My idea is that the formatting data would
> then be ignored when you open the copy. If it works you may get some
> formatting gibberish included with the text.
>
> -- Jay Lozier
odt files are zip archives. Changing the extension to txt is almost 
guaranteed to get you nowhere. If you make a copy and change the 
extension to .zip, and if you succeed in unzipping it, you will find 
interesting things in there.

The file Content.xml contains your text with xml stuff, but if you work 
at it you may be able to extract your data. There may be extractor 
programs that will do this for you.

The downside in all this is that if the odt file is damaged, the zip 
archiver may not be able to open it.

David Teague

Thaks David / Jay,
Indeed the .txt file test yields no help, just gibberish with no
intellegible text.
.zip extenstion shows nothing but a blank when I try to open that with  Ark.
Content.xml file? ... isn't this "windows" related?  I did a search on the
file and there don't appear to be any file called that on the system.  

I do appreciate the effort at help though...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[JeepNut]

On 07/22/2011 09:42 AM, JeepNut wrote:
> Hoping for some good news here.
> Am using the openSuSE branded version of LibreOffice 3.3.3 OOO330m19
> (Build:301) tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1 on openSuSE 11.3 and KDE 4.4.4-1.5.
> 
> Was editing a document that is pretty important (to me at least) and
> during
> the process had tried to add a footnote.
> I was editing the text in the footnote and almost immediately there was
> some
> flashing of the screen and LibreOffice crashed, locking up the entire PC. 
> No mouse control, no keyboard control, nothing.
> So I had to "reset" the PC.
> Now the document is fubar.  When I try to open it, LibreOffice attempts to
> recover but fails.
> Then it tries to repair the file but opens only a blank page.
> I've tried to open it without an extension and get a list of a variety of
> application types to attempt any modicum of recovery, but no matter what I
> try to open it with it either fails, or opens in a file of unreadable
> gibberish.
> I'd be THRILLED if someone would be able to actually recover this document
> for me.
> Nothing secret in it, I'd be happy to email it to anyone who'd like to
> give
> it a try.  Even just to get back the text out of it  so that I could
> rebuild
> would be fabulous.
> 
> Any chance at all to recover?
...
Open it with archive manager and see if there is any info in
content.xml. Any surviable text should be in that file.

BTW: Do you by chance have an intel graphics card in your system?



Nope.  XFX GEForce 6800 GS 256Mb,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[Tom Davies]

.zip extenstion shows nothing but a blank when I try to open that with  Ark.
Content.xml file? ... isn't this "windows" related?  I did a search on the
file and there don't appear to be any file called that on the system.  

I do appreciate the effort at help though...


Hi :)
What is the size of the file?  Do you have a version that you emailed to 
someone, backed-up, pu on usb-stick to share with someone or uploaded somewhere?
Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[JeepNut]

Thanks Tom.  I understand and that's part of the mystery here.  The longer
story is that I've been having problems with the system "spontaneously
resetting" or just freezing up like this for several months.  At first, like
many, I cried to myself in my personal system log about the upgrade to 11.3
being the problem, then about KDE being the problem, then about LibreOffice
being the problem, but started to finally realize it cannot be that all the
software suddenly became "buggy".  I kind of have to do that.  I log my
gripes rather than take them to a forum.  After I've read and re-read my
inane whining, I come to other conclusions. 

One of them was the perhaps a memory had failed.
So I bought 2 new sticks about a month ago.
Problems with Firefox have disappeared, it no longer crashes constantly and
the same for several other "unstable" apps I had trouble with.  Big
improvement, but I still have trouble keeping specifically LibreOffice
running for some reason and still have this freezing of the machine. 
Although the spontaneous reboots have not recurred.

So I am intrigued with the idea that maybe the video card causes this.
I'm going to pull the box open and try reseating it and see what happens
afterward.  Of course to know if that works will take some time.  And it
won't fix the immediate issue with this specific file, but maybe no further
problems afterward.
I haven't had luck with it so I'll send that along to you off list and hope
for the best.

BTW the cautions you give are well taken. But I'm an intermediate level hack
w/ the PC.  Been a PC hardware/software junkie since Kaypro 486 days and DOS
2.2.  But that was before I saw the light and jumped on the Linux wagon. 
I've built several PC's over the years, this PC from scratch about 4 or 5
years ago and it's been very reliable and worked great until just recently.
The graphics card in this one is  XFX GEForce 6800 GS 256Mb  and isn't very
old.  Maybe one year or less. 
I keep the dust off things internally about 2 or 3 times a year as the PC is
in a clear arcylic case so it's easy to see when she's dirtied up.  So the
card fan can be observed functional and not terribly dusty at this time but
it may benefit from being reseated.  I'll do that and see what happens going
forward.
Thanks for that suggestion.



Tom Davies wrote:
> 
> Hi :)
> It's also not likely that a single app would crash the whole machine like
> that.  
> One of the top 3 priorities of Gnu&Linux is that individual processes can
> fail 
> without affecting the rest of the system.  Hence no Bsods.  Is your
> machine 
> overheating severly?  Are you using a laptop or something with inadequate 
> cooling?  Is your graphics card not pushed in properly or getting
> extremely 
> hot?  Ram-sticks or cpu?  My money would be on the graphics chips
> over-heating 
> or wobbly graphics card.  
> 
> 
> If it is a desktop machine are you confident enough about opening the case
> and 
> getting rid of some of the dust without touching any of the components or
> the 
> mbord or anything?  Which country are you in?  In England the normal 3 pin
> mains 
> earths the case so even though you would still need to turn off the
> machine at 
> the back and at the wall you could remove static from your hands at that
> point 
> by touching the case.  In the US it could be dangerous to touch the case
> even 
> with the power off.  The static on your fingers and the oily grease even
> on 
> carefully washed hands is enough to damage some components inside the
> machine so 
> take care!  
> 
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: JeepNut 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Fri, 22 July, 2011 17:42:36
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] help recovering?
> 
> Hoping for some good news here.
> Am using the openSuSE branded version of LibreOffice 3.3.3 OOO330m19
> (Build:301) tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1 on openSuSE 11.3 and KDE 4.4.4-1.5.
> 
> Was editing a document that is pretty important (to me at least) and
> during
> the process had tried to add a footnote.
> I was editing the text in the footnote and almost immediately there was
> some
> flashing of the screen and LibreOffice crashed, locking up the entire PC. 
> No mouse control, no keyboard control, nothing.
> So I had to "reset" the PC.
> Now the document is fubar.  When I try to open it, LibreOffice attempts to
> recover but fails.
> Then it tries to repair the file but opens only a blank page.
> I've tried to open it without an extension and get a list of a variety of
> application types to attempt any modicum of recovery, but no matter what I
> try to open it with it either fails, or opens in a file of unreadable
> gibberish.
> I'd be THRILLED if someone would be able to actually recover this document
> for me.
> Nothing secret in it, I'd be happy to email it to anyone who'd like to
> give
> it a try.  Even just to get back the text out of it  so that I could
> rebuild
> would be fabulous.
> 

[libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[JeepNut]

Thanks John.  
Officeviewers seems "Windows" related, no such stuff on my systems here. 
I've declared it illegal to have in my home.
Didn't have any luck w/ visioo-writer.  Could not make it compile.
But I apprecate the idea.

Thanks!



John B-2 wrote:
> 
> I do not know if this will help, but viewers can be more forgiving than 
> editors.
> 
> Try
> 
> http://www.officeviewers.com/
> 
> or
> 
> http://visioo-writer.tuxfamily.org/EN/index_3.html
> 
> if it does - you will have to copy & paste back into LO again
> 
> you might have to google a few more until you find one that works.
> 
> regards
> 
> John B
> 
> --
> 
> 
> On 22/07/2011 17:42, JeepNut wrote:
>> Hoping for some good news here.
>> Am using the openSuSE branded version of LibreOffice 3.3.3 OOO330m19
>> (Build:301) tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1 on openSuSE 11.3 and KDE 4.4.4-1.5.
>>
>> Was editing a document that is pretty important (to me at least) and
>> during
>> the process had tried to add a footnote.
>> I was editing the text in the footnote and almost immediately there was
>> some
>> flashing of the screen and LibreOffice crashed, locking up the entire PC.
>> No mouse control, no keyboard control, nothing.
>> So I had to "reset" the PC.
>> Now the document is fubar.  When I try to open it, LibreOffice attempts
>> to
>> recover but fails.
>> Then it tries to repair the file but opens only a blank page.
>> I've tried to open it without an extension and get a list of a variety of
>> application types to attempt any modicum of recovery, but no matter what
>> I
>> try to open it with it either fails, or opens in a file of unreadable
>> gibberish.
>> I'd be THRILLED if someone would be able to actually recover this
>> document
>> for me.
>> Nothing secret in it, I'd be happy to email it to anyone who'd like to
>> give
>> it a try.  Even just to get back the text out of it  so that I could
>> rebuild
>> would be fabulous.
>>
>> Any chance at all to recover?
>>
>>
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[libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[JeepNut]

Thanks for making a stab at this Tom.

Here is the file.  Was saved as a common text file originally with 
Kwrite so it had no file extension.
Subsequently I got more complex with it and started edit it in 
LibreOffice.  So I have to assume it saved as an .odt file, but the 
extension was never shown.

Steve (aka JeepNut)



On 07/22/2011 02:00 PM, Tom Davies [via Document Foundation Mail 
Archive] wrote:
> Hi :)
> If it's saved in odt or docX then you could try opening the file with 
> an archive
> manager.  I might be able to have a look in Ubuntu using LibreOffice 
> 3.3.2 if
> you send me the attachment off-list.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> 
> From: John B <[hidden email] 
> >
> To: [hidden email] 
> Sent: Fri, 22 July, 2011 18:37:22
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] help recovering?
>
> I do not know if this will help, but viewers can be more forgiving than
> editors.
>
> Try
>
> http://www.officeviewers.com/
>
> or
>
> http://visioo-writer.tuxfamily.org/EN/index_3.html
>
> if it does - you will have to copy & paste back into LO again
>
> you might have to google a few more until you find one that works.
>
> regards
>
> John B
>
> --
>
>
> On 22/07/2011 17:42, JeepNut wrote:
>
> > Hoping for some good news here.
> > Am using the openSuSE branded version of LibreOffice 3.3.3 OOO330m19
> > (Build:301) tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1 on openSuSE 11.3 and KDE 4.4.4-1.5.
> >
> > Was editing a document that is pretty important (to me at least) and 
> during
> > the process had tried to add a footnote.
> > I was editing the text in the footnote and almost immediately there 
> was some
> > flashing of the screen and LibreOffice crashed, locking up the 
> entire PC.
> > No mouse control, no keyboard control, nothing.
> > So I had to "reset" the PC.
> > Now the document is fubar.  When I try to open it, LibreOffice 
> attempts to
> > recover but fails.
> > Then it tries to repair the file but opens only a blank page.
> > I've tried to open it without an extension and get a list of a 
> variety of
> > application types to attempt any modicum of recovery, but no matter 
> what I
> > try to open it with it either fails, or opens in a file of unreadable
> > gibberish.
> > I'd be THRILLED if someone would be able to actually recover this 
> document
> > for me.
> > Nothing secret in it, I'd be happy to email it to anyone who'd like 
> to give
> > it a try.  Even just to get back the text out of it  so that I could 
> rebuild
> > would be fabulous.
> >
> > Any chance at all to recover?
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The archive manager uses other archive utilities to actually manipulate 
archives.

Try using 7zip directly if that is on your system.

It has a test option.  It will test the document for integrity and also report 
on what files are in it.

*Inside* of the document package there will be a content.xml file.  If that 
file is present and is reported to be correct, you can extract it.  

7zip has a command line operation (named 7z or 7za).

Here's an example using a command line and 7za.exe in a Windows console session:

C:\command>7za t OOo-CustomProp-Export-2011-07-21-1613.odt

7-Zip (A) 4.42  Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Igor Pavlov  2006-05-14

Processing archive: OOo-CustomProp-Export-2011-07-21-1613.odt

Testing mimetype
Testing Configurations2\statusbar
Testing Configurations2\accelerator\current.xml
Testing Configurations2\floater
Testing Configurations2\popupmenu
Testing Configurations2\progressbar
Testing Configurations2\toolpanel
Testing Configurations2\menubar
Testing Configurations2\toolbar
Testing Configurations2\images\Bitmaps
Testing content.xml
Testing manifest.rdf
Testing styles.xml
Testing meta.xml
Testing Thumbnails\thumbnail.png
Testing settings.xml
Testing META-INF\manifest.xml

Everything is Ok

C:\command>7za e OOo-CustomProp-Export-2011-07-21-1613.odt content.xml

7-Zip (A) 4.42  Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Igor Pavlov  2006-05-14

Processing archive: OOo-CustomProp-Export-2011-07-21-1613.odt

Extracting  content.xml

Everything is Ok

C:\command>

The content.xml file will be in XML markup format.  There is a *lot* of markup. 
 it is tricky to remove the markup and leave just the text.  

If a Zip utility will not access the document, or reports that it is corrupt, 
you may need to track down a Zip repair utility.  I have no experience with 
those and can make no recommendation.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: JeepNut [mailto:jeep...@zoho.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 17:50
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?


On 07/22/2011 09:42 AM, JeepNut wrote:
> Hoping for some good news here.
> Am using the openSuSE branded version of LibreOffice 3.3.3 OOO330m19
> (Build:301) tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1 on openSuSE 11.3 and KDE 4.4.4-1.5.
> 
> Was editing a document that is pretty important (to me at least) and
> during
> the process had tried to add a footnote.
> I was editing the text in the footnote and almost immediately there was
> some
> flashing of the screen and LibreOffice crashed, locking up the entire PC. 
> No mouse control, no keyboard control, nothing.
> So I had to "reset" the PC.
> Now the document is fubar.  When I try to open it, LibreOffice attempts to
> recover but fails.
> Then it tries to repair the file but opens only a blank page.
> I've tried to open it without an extension and get a list of a variety of
> application types to attempt any modicum of recovery, but no matter what I
> try to open it with it either fails, or opens in a file of unreadable
> gibberish.
> I'd be THRILLED if someone would be able to actually recover this document
> for me.
> Nothing secret in it, I'd be happy to email it to anyone who'd like to
> give
> it a try.  Even just to get back the text out of it  so that I could
> rebuild
> would be fabulous.
> 
> Any chance at all to recover?
...
Open it with archive manager and see if there is any info in
content.xml. Any surviable text should be in that file.

BTW: Do you by chance have an intel graphics card in your system?



Nope.  XFX GEForce 6800 GS 256Mb,

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Oh wait,

I have a bad feeling about this.  

You don't still have the Kwrite file?  You took the Kwrite file into 
LibreOffice and started to edit it?  Did it ever get save as a different file, 
or did you save it atop the Kwrite file, with the original no-file-extension 
name?

I'd like to see that too.

The list won't transfer attachments.  But you can send it as an attachment to 
me directly.  I am very curious what beast that is.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: JeepNut [mailto:jeep...@zoho.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 18:21
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

Thanks for making a stab at this Tom.

Here is the file.  Was saved as a common text file originally with 
Kwrite so it had no file extension.
Subsequently I got more complex with it and started edit it in 
LibreOffice.  So I have to assume it saved as an .odt file, but the 
extension was never shown.

Steve (aka JeepNut)



On 07/22/2011 02:00 PM, Tom Davies [via Document Foundation Mail 
Archive] wrote:
> Hi :)
> If it's saved in odt or docX then you could try opening the file with 
> an archive
> manager.  I might be able to have a look in Ubuntu using LibreOffice 
> 3.3.2 if
> you send me the attachment off-list.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> 
> From: John B <[hidden email] 
> >
> To: [hidden email] 
> Sent: Fri, 22 July, 2011 18:37:22
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] help recovering?
>
> I do not know if this will help, but viewers can be more forgiving than
> editors.
>
> Try
>
> http://www.officeviewers.com/
>
> or
>
> http://visioo-writer.tuxfamily.org/EN/index_3.html
>
> if it does - you will have to copy & paste back into LO again
>
> you might have to google a few more until you find one that works.
>
> regards
>
> John B
>
> --
>
>
> On 22/07/2011 17:42, JeepNut wrote:
>
> > Hoping for some good news here.
> > Am using the openSuSE branded version of LibreOffice 3.3.3 OOO330m19
> > (Build:301) tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1 on openSuSE 11.3 and KDE 4.4.4-1.5.
> >
> > Was editing a document that is pretty important (to me at least) and 
> during
> > the process had tried to add a footnote.
> > I was editing the text in the footnote and almost immediately there 
> was some
> > flashing of the screen and LibreOffice crashed, locking up the 
> entire PC.
> > No mouse control, no keyboard control, nothing.
> > So I had to "reset" the PC.
> > Now the document is fubar.  When I try to open it, LibreOffice 
> attempts to
> > recover but fails.
> > Then it tries to repair the file but opens only a blank page.
> > I've tried to open it without an extension and get a list of a 
> variety of
> > application types to attempt any modicum of recovery, but no matter 
> what I
> > try to open it with it either fails, or opens in a file of unreadable
> > gibberish.
> > I'd be THRILLED if someone would be able to actually recover this 
> document
> > for me.
> > Nothing secret in it, I'd be happy to email it to anyone who'd like 
> to give
> > it a try.  Even just to get back the text out of it  so that I could 
> rebuild
> > would be fabulous.
> >
> > Any chance at all to recover?
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/help-recovering-tp3191906p3191906.html
> > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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> 07/22/11
> >10:32:00
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> >
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

There should be a system log some place that provides any error codes and 
information that led to a spontaneous reboot.  Perhaps even for a freeze, but 
less likely.

I have the screen flash reboot from time to time and in my case it appears to 
be either USB faults (related to the Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, I think) or 
a PCI error which I am pretty sure is related to my graphics card (ATI HD 5900 
series).  Those have become rare, so my system seems to have stabilized 
(fingers-crossed).

You should see if there is a GeForce diagnostic test for the 6800 GS.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: JeepNut [mailto:jeep...@zoho.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 18:13
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

Thanks Tom.  I understand and that's part of the mystery here.  The longer
story is that I've been having problems with the system "spontaneously
resetting" or just freezing up like this for several months.  At first, like
many, I cried to myself in my personal system log about the upgrade to 11.3
being the problem, then about KDE being the problem, then about LibreOffice
being the problem, but started to finally realize it cannot be that all the
software suddenly became "buggy".  I kind of have to do that.  I log my
gripes rather than take them to a forum.  After I've read and re-read my
inane whining, I come to other conclusions. 

One of them was the perhaps a memory had failed.
So I bought 2 new sticks about a month ago.
Problems with Firefox have disappeared, it no longer crashes constantly and
the same for several other "unstable" apps I had trouble with.  Big
improvement, but I still have trouble keeping specifically LibreOffice
running for some reason and still have this freezing of the machine. 
Although the spontaneous reboots have not recurred.

So I am intrigued with the idea that maybe the video card causes this.
I'm going to pull the box open and try reseating it and see what happens
afterward.  Of course to know if that works will take some time.  And it
won't fix the immediate issue with this specific file, but maybe no further
problems afterward.
I haven't had luck with it so I'll send that along to you off list and hope
for the best.

BTW the cautions you give are well taken. But I'm an intermediate level hack
w/ the PC.  Been a PC hardware/software junkie since Kaypro 486 days and DOS
2.2.  But that was before I saw the light and jumped on the Linux wagon. 
I've built several PC's over the years, this PC from scratch about 4 or 5
years ago and it's been very reliable and worked great until just recently.
The graphics card in this one is  XFX GEForce 6800 GS 256Mb  and isn't very
old.  Maybe one year or less. 
I keep the dust off things internally about 2 or 3 times a year as the PC is
in a clear arcylic case so it's easy to see when she's dirtied up.  So the
card fan can be observed functional and not terribly dusty at this time but
it may benefit from being reseated.  I'll do that and see what happens going
forward.
Thanks for that suggestion.



Tom Davies wrote:
> 
> Hi :)
> It's also not likely that a single app would crash the whole machine like
> that.  
> One of the top 3 priorities of Gnu&Linux is that individual processes can
> fail 
> without affecting the rest of the system.  Hence no Bsods.  Is your
> machine 
> overheating severly?  Are you using a laptop or something with inadequate 
> cooling?  Is your graphics card not pushed in properly or getting
> extremely 
> hot?  Ram-sticks or cpu?  My money would be on the graphics chips
> over-heating 
> or wobbly graphics card.  
> 
> 
> If it is a desktop machine are you confident enough about opening the case
> and 
> getting rid of some of the dust without touching any of the components or
> the 
> mbord or anything?  Which country are you in?  In England the normal 3 pin
> mains 
> earths the case so even though you would still need to turn off the
> machine at 
> the back and at the wall you could remove static from your hands at that
> point 
> by touching the case.  In the US it could be dangerous to touch the case
> even 
> with the power off.  The static on your fingers and the oily grease even
> on 
> carefully washed hands is enough to damage some components inside the
> machine so 
> take care!  
> 
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: JeepNut 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Fri, 22 July, 2011 17:42:36
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] help recovering?
> 
> Hoping for some good news here.
> Am using the openSuSE branded version of LibreOffice 3.3.3 OOO330m19
> (Build:301) tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1 on openSuSE 11.3 and KDE 4.4.4-1.5.
> 
> Was editing a document that is pretty important (to me at least) and
> during
> the process had tried to add a footnote.
> I was editing the text in the footnote and almost immediately there was
> some
> flashing of the screen and LibreOffice crashed, locking u

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Hmmm.  If the graphics card has been there for about a year then that's 
probably 
not the issue.  If it was older then maybe it's fan might have stopped working 
and the machine shuts down when the gpu overheats.  If the crashes had been 
happening ever since putting the new card in then wobbly card might make sense. 
 
Reseating the card might fix the issue but it's not as likely to be the problem 
as i first thought given that it's about a year or so since you put the card 
in.  


When you boot into openSUSE do you get a boot menu with choices such as 
mem-test 
and "recovery mode".  Recovery mode has a few house-keeping type clean-up tools 
such as clearing temp folders and caches and checking dependencies.  Mem-test 
keeps running if given a chance but just 1 or 2 tests and a single pass should 
be enough.  Press Esc to reboot rather than let it run too long.  I don't think 
those are the problems but it's probably worth checking.  


I think the best chance is to use something like GPartEd to check the 
partitions 
and to create a new partition large enough to put a fresh install of openSUSE 
or 
another distro on.  Then see if the new fresh install has the same problem with 
crashing.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: JeepNut 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 24 July, 2011 2:12:39
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

Thanks Tom.  I understand and that's part of the mystery here.  The longer
story is that I've been having problems with the system "spontaneously
resetting" or just freezing up like this for several months.  At first, like
many, I cried to myself in my personal system log about the upgrade to 11.3
being the problem, then about KDE being the problem, then about LibreOffice
being the problem, but started to finally realize it cannot be that all the
software suddenly became "buggy".  I kind of have to do that.  I log my
gripes rather than take them to a forum.  After I've read and re-read my
inane whining, I come to other conclusions. 

One of them was the perhaps a memory had failed.
So I bought 2 new sticks about a month ago.
Problems with Firefox have disappeared, it no longer crashes constantly and
the same for several other "unstable" apps I had trouble with.  Big
improvement, but I still have trouble keeping specifically LibreOffice
running for some reason and still have this freezing of the machine. 
Although the spontaneous reboots have not recurred.

So I am intrigued with the idea that maybe the video card causes this.
I'm going to pull the box open and try reseating it and see what happens
afterward.  Of course to know if that works will take some time.  And it
won't fix the immediate issue with this specific file, but maybe no further
problems afterward.
I haven't had luck with it so I'll send that along to you off list and hope
for the best.

BTW the cautions you give are well taken. But I'm an intermediate level hack
w/ the PC.  Been a PC hardware/software junkie since Kaypro 486 days and DOS
2.2.  But that was before I saw the light and jumped on the Linux wagon. 
I've built several PC's over the years, this PC from scratch about 4 or 5
years ago and it's been very reliable and worked great until just recently.
The graphics card in this one is  XFX GEForce 6800 GS 256Mb  and isn't very
old.  Maybe one year or less. 
I keep the dust off things internally about 2 or 3 times a year as the PC is
in a clear arcylic case so it's easy to see when she's dirtied up.  So the
card fan can be observed functional and not terribly dusty at this time but
it may benefit from being reseated.  I'll do that and see what happens going
forward.
Thanks for that suggestion.



Tom Davies wrote:
> 
> Hi :)
> It's also not likely that a single app would crash the whole machine like
> that.  
> One of the top 3 priorities of Gnu&Linux is that individual processes can
> fail 
> without affecting the rest of the system.  Hence no Bsods.  Is your
> machine 
> overheating severly?  Are you using a laptop or something with inadequate 
> cooling?  Is your graphics card not pushed in properly or getting
> extremely 
> hot?  Ram-sticks or cpu?  My money would be on the graphics chips
> over-heating 
> or wobbly graphics card.  
> 
> 
> If it is a desktop machine are you confident enough about opening the case
> and 
> getting rid of some of the dust without touching any of the components or
> the 
> mbord or anything?  Which country are you in?  In England the normal 3 pin
> mains 
> earths the case so even though you would still need to turn off the
> machine at 
> the back and at the wall you could remove static from your hands at that
> point 
> by touching the case.  In the US it could be dangerous to touch the case
> even 
> with the power off.  The static on your fingers and the oily grease even
> on 
> carefully washed hands is enough to damage some components inside the
> machine so 
> take care!  
> 
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Thanks for sending me the file.

WinZip confirmed that the file is damaged and not usable.  

I looked at it in a hex editor and confirmed that it is indeed an ODF Text 
(.odt) file.  The initial part of the Zip is there, and then suddenly the data 
is all zeros starting in the middle of a PNG image that is part of the 
document.  The file is completely 00 bytes until nearly the end, where a part 
of the file entry for META-INF/manifest.xml appears.  Even that appears to be 
damaged and the end of the file may have been truncated or not produced yet.

There is no recoverable information of any value whatsoever in the file.

Sorry,

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 18:57
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: 'JeepNut'
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

Oh wait,

I have a bad feeling about this.  

You don't still have the Kwrite file?  You took the Kwrite file into 
LibreOffice and started to edit it?  Did it ever get save as a different file, 
or did you save it atop the Kwrite file, with the original no-file-extension 
name?

I'd like to see that too.

The list won't transfer attachments.  But you can send it as an attachment to 
me directly.  I am very curious what beast that is.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: JeepNut [mailto:jeep...@zoho.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 18:21
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: help recovering?

Thanks for making a stab at this Tom.

Here is the file.  Was saved as a common text file originally with 
Kwrite so it had no file extension.
Subsequently I got more complex with it and started edit it in 
LibreOffice.  So I have to assume it saved as an .odt file, but the 
extension was never shown.

Steve (aka JeepNut)



On 07/22/2011 02:00 PM, Tom Davies [via Document Foundation Mail 
Archive] wrote:
> Hi :)
> If it's saved in odt or docX then you could try opening the file with 
> an archive
> manager.  I might be able to have a look in Ubuntu using LibreOffice 
> 3.3.2 if
> you send me the attachment off-list.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> 
> From: John B <[hidden email] 
> >
> To: [hidden email] 
> Sent: Fri, 22 July, 2011 18:37:22
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] help recovering?
>
> I do not know if this will help, but viewers can be more forgiving than
> editors.
>
> Try
>
> http://www.officeviewers.com/
>
> or
>
> http://visioo-writer.tuxfamily.org/EN/index_3.html
>
> if it does - you will have to copy & paste back into LO again
>
> you might have to google a few more until you find one that works.
>
> regards
>
> John B
>
> --
>
>
> On 22/07/2011 17:42, JeepNut wrote:
>
> > Hoping for some good news here.
> > Am using the openSuSE branded version of LibreOffice 3.3.3 OOO330m19
> > (Build:301) tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1 on openSuSE 11.3 and KDE 4.4.4-1.5.
> >
> > Was editing a document that is pretty important (to me at least) and 
> during
> > the process had tried to add a footnote.
> > I was editing the text in the footnote and almost immediately there 
> was some
> > flashing of the screen and LibreOffice crashed, locking up the 
> entire PC.
> > No mouse control, no keyboard control, nothing.
> > So I had to "reset" the PC.
> > Now the document is fubar.  When I try to open it, LibreOffice 
> attempts to
> > recover but fails.
> > Then it tries to repair the file but opens only a blank page.
> > I've tried to open it without an extension and get a list of a 
> variety of
> > application types to attempt any modicum of recovery, but no matter 
> what I
> > try to open it with it either fails, or opens in a file of unreadable
> > gibberish.
> > I'd be THRILLED if someone would be able to actually recover this 
> document
> > for me.
> > Nothing secret in it, I'd be happy to email it to anyone who'd like 
> to give
> > it a try.  Even just to get back the text out of it  so that I could 
> rebuild
> > would be fabulous.
> >
> > Any chance at all to recover?
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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