[libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf
Hi :) As far as i can see the only list that disputes the idea of supporting MS formats is the Users List. The rest of the project does such good work at supporting MS formats that sometimes it ends up being closer to MS's specs than MS's products. Of course that is one of the problems and the LO devs then try to make LO's support as quirky as MSO's to compensate. So far supporting MS formats seems to be going quite well. Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/can-I-make-Libre-default-to-save-as-rtf-tp3527035p3534743.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
Hi :) Lol, it was all very exciting and a bit turgid at the same time. Still is, even tho things have calmed down a lot now apparently. The basic up-shot is that you don't need to change. OpenOffice faded like the moon wanes and then waxes. Hopefully under Apache it will wax towards being full again. You can choose to "jump ship" now and join the much more exciting and better developed LibreOffice now or you could choose to stick-it-out a bit longer and then choose to change (or not) at some point later on. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 24/11/11, Regina Henschel wrote: From: Regina Henschel Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 24 November, 2011, 19:18 Hi John, John Gregson schrieb: > I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open Office > 3.3; on Win 7. > Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading > away. When Oracle bought Sun it got the rights on OpenOffice.org among other things. But Oracle had no interest to develop OpenOffice.org. It shuts down the development department and dismissed the developers. Oracle gave Apache the possibility to do further work on OpenOffice.org. But parts of OpenOffice.org are not compatible with the Apache license. So the current work is to identify those parts and replace them with Apache license compatible solutions. In addition, OpenOffice.org was not only a product but had a lot of infrastructure around like Wiki, Bugzilla, mailinglists and forums, which Apache tries to migrate to the way Apache works. So it will last some time till the next release will appear and it will no longer be an "OpenOffice.org" but an "Apache OpenOffice". For more information see for example https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/OpenOffice.org+Migration+Status Apache is not an enterprise but a foundation and does not employs developers but the work is done by volunteers. In this aspect it is similar with The Document Foundation and LibreOffice. There are enterprises which pay some developers (including some of the old stuff) to work full time on the Apache OpenOffice. That is similar to the situation here, where some enterprises pay developers to work full time on LibreOffice. The latter had worked already on the OpenOffice.org code for a long time and LibreOffice gets all of their know-how. The fact, that lot of the volunteers of OpenOffice.org work now on LibreOffice has been told already. > In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are > compatible with Libre Office. Should I start using Libre Office > immediately? Please keep abbreviations to a minimum., or at least > explain the abbreviation. You can start immediately with LibreOffice. There are some versions available parallel. The version with the higher second number has got new features but might contain some more bugs. The version with the smaller second number does not have the latest features but has got a lot of bug fixes already and is in use a long time by many users. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
Hi :) It wasn't that bad. Also although OpenOffice seems to be fading away right now t6hat could be just a temporary phase. Oracle are in the process of giving OpenOffice to the Apache Foundation at the urging of IBM apparently. When Apache take on a project they have a process to convert it to their style of working. OOo is quite different from most of their projects so it's taking a lot to re-organise it. Once they do get going they are likely to get code dumps from IBM to give them a bit of a boost. About a decade ago, when OpenOffice first forked from Star Office there was a plan to eventually move it into an independent Foundation. Somehow a decade slipped by with OOo staying under Sun's management. When Oracle took over Sun's assets it seemed a good time to implement the plan that had been developed during the decade. Oracle didn't seem keen to develop OOo anyway, at least not until after The Document Foundation had been up-and-running for a while. That was about when Oracle seemed to start getting a bit petulant and childish imo. Then a few months later we had the race to get the 3.4.0 out and TDF won by miles purely because there is so much momentum behind LO and a great team of devs and more. LibreOffice continues to be a "drop-in replacement" for OpenOffice and OpenOffice is not dead. It's just "resting" (well actually working quite hard in a 'behind the scenes way'). So, it's ok to stick with OpenOffice for now and change over later if you want. Both use the same formats as do quite a number of other programs. Just to completely contradict that i would recommend moving to LO but only because i think it's prettier and nicer and does more and has a vitality and excitement about it. So, its a personal recommendation based on aesthetics more than practicalities really. It is possible to have both on a single system but they are too similar so it's not trivial. This guide can help if you fancy trying that http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel It is really designed for multiple copies of LibreOffice but a bit of imagination can twist it around a bit :) Again it's not really important to do that just as it's not important to change to LibreOffice just yet if you don't want to. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 24/11/11, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: "John Gregson" Date: Thursday, 24 November, 2011, 18:14 In brief, over a year ago, most of the primary contributors to the Open Office project became so offended by what they perceived as inappropriate actions by Oracle that they forked the project. Their fork became LibreOffice. The original fork has apparently had very few contributions since. For more, see Wikipedia, "LibreOffice" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice). The divorce from Oracle was not amiable, but LibeOffice seems to be thriving while Open Office is not. I started using LibreOffice early this year. I noticed a few bugs that seemed not to be present in the then-current version of Open Office. However, I think those bugs have been fixed with many others in subsequent releases of LibreOffice. Spencer Graves On 11/24/2011 9:44 AM, John Gregson wrote: > I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open Office 3.3; > on Win 7. > Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading away. > In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are > compatible > with Libre Office. > Should I start using Libre Office immediately? > Please keep abbreviations to a minimum., or at least explain the abbreviation. > > Thanks in advance. > > John. > > John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San José, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
Hi John, John Gregson schrieb: I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open Office 3.3; on Win 7. Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading away. When Oracle bought Sun it got the rights on OpenOffice.org among other things. But Oracle had no interest to develop OpenOffice.org. It shuts down the development department and dismissed the developers. Oracle gave Apache the possibility to do further work on OpenOffice.org. But parts of OpenOffice.org are not compatible with the Apache license. So the current work is to identify those parts and replace them with Apache license compatible solutions. In addition, OpenOffice.org was not only a product but had a lot of infrastructure around like Wiki, Bugzilla, mailinglists and forums, which Apache tries to migrate to the way Apache works. So it will last some time till the next release will appear and it will no longer be an "OpenOffice.org" but an "Apache OpenOffice". For more information see for example https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/OpenOffice.org+Migration+Status Apache is not an enterprise but a foundation and does not employs developers but the work is done by volunteers. In this aspect it is similar with The Document Foundation and LibreOffice. There are enterprises which pay some developers (including some of the old stuff) to work full time on the Apache OpenOffice. That is similar to the situation here, where some enterprises pay developers to work full time on LibreOffice. The latter had worked already on the OpenOffice.org code for a long time and LibreOffice gets all of their know-how. The fact, that lot of the volunteers of OpenOffice.org work now on LibreOffice has been told already. In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are compatible with Libre Office. Should I start using Libre Office immediately? Please keep abbreviations to a minimum., or at least explain the abbreviation. You can start immediately with LibreOffice. There are some versions available parallel. The version with the higher second number has got new features but might contain some more bugs. The version with the smaller second number does not have the latest features but has got a lot of bug fixes already and is in use a long time by many users. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
On 11/24/2011 12:44 PM, John Gregson wrote: I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open Office 3.3; on Win 7. Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading away. In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are compatible with Libre Office. Should I start using Libre Office immediately? Please keep abbreviations to a minimum., or at least explain the abbreviation. Thanks in advance. John. John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca You could probably use OO forever, and there is still some activity in that camp, but the Linux people decided to support the fork of OO called LibreOffice for various reasons, many of them political. In practical terms, LO is going to have the most work done on it (AFAICS), so in regard to cleaning up the old bugs, etc., LO is the way to go. (They have already cleaned up a bug in Calc. In OO and even Symphony, some spreadsheets made on MS software printed with extra boxes above the main spreadsheet; LO seems to have fixed that.) Now if only the LO people would import some of the polish that Symphony has. . . . --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Loading and Saving in Calc is too slow
Hi :) At 4Mb the file sounds quite large. Perhaps ramp-up some of the values in Tools - Options - Memory Is java involved at all? Is Calc doing read/writes to a database? If you look in Tools - Options - Java and check which version of java you are using that can sometimes make a difference. The 6u21 was the best. After that the versions were increasingly problematic for LibreOffice. Java is written by a competitor. Well, they seem to see themselves as competitors. The _20 and _22 were quite good but _21 was/is the best. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 24/11/11, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Loading and Saving in Calc is too slow To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 24 November, 2011, 18:16 2011/11/23 : > Hello, > > > > I use various excel files (around 4mb in size), that open instantly in > excel, but when converted to ods file format, Calc takes too much time to > open/saving these same files. > > The reason I converted the files to ods, is because I need that those file > are shared by various users who use calc (this function doesn't seem to be > available in Calc using the xls file format). > > > > Is there a way to speedup the loading/saving time of large soreadsheets in > Calc? The ODS file format is by nature slower than that very old Excel format. XLS files are binary files, kind of like a memory dump, which is very fast but has other disadvantages. An ODF (ods, odt and more) on the other hand, is a zip file containing a few XML files, folders and things like that. So every time you need to save or load the document, it will first be extracted, then all the different files is explored and so on. I guess those things take quite a lot more time than just reading or writing a binary file. So the only thing you can do about it is probably to get a faster computer and things like that… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ > > > Im using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Windows XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 Pro machines. > > > > Thanks, > > Pedro Nunes > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Loading and Saving in Calc is too slow
2011/11/23 : > Hello, > > > > I use various excel files (around 4mb in size), that open instantly in > excel, but when converted to ods file format, Calc takes too much time to > open/saving these same files. > > The reason I converted the files to ods, is because I need that those file > are shared by various users who use calc (this function doesn't seem to be > available in Calc using the xls file format). > > > > Is there a way to speedup the loading/saving time of large soreadsheets in > Calc? The ODS file format is by nature slower than that very old Excel format. XLS files are binary files, kind of like a memory dump, which is very fast but has other disadvantages. An ODF (ods, odt and more) on the other hand, is a zip file containing a few XML files, folders and things like that. So every time you need to save or load the document, it will first be extracted, then all the different files is explored and so on. I guess those things take quite a lot more time than just reading or writing a binary file. So the only thing you can do about it is probably to get a faster computer and things like that… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ > > > Im using LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Windows XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 Pro machines. > > > > Thanks, > > Pedro Nunes > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
In brief, over a year ago, most of the primary contributors to the Open Office project became so offended by what they perceived as inappropriate actions by Oracle that they forked the project. Their fork became LibreOffice. The original fork has apparently had very few contributions since. For more, see Wikipedia, "LibreOffice" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice). The divorce from Oracle was not amiable, but LibeOffice seems to be thriving while Open Office is not. I started using LibreOffice early this year. I noticed a few bugs that seemed not to be present in the then-current version of Open Office. However, I think those bugs have been fixed with many others in subsequent releases of LibreOffice. Spencer Graves On 11/24/2011 9:44 AM, John Gregson wrote: I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open Office 3.3; on Win 7. Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading away. In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are compatible with Libre Office. Should I start using Libre Office immediately? Please keep abbreviations to a minimum., or at least explain the abbreviation. Thanks in advance. John. John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San José, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
On 24 November 2011 11:44, John Gregson wrote: > Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading away. In one word: politics. OpenOffice.org was part of a purchase by a company with a poor record towards open source software like OpenOffice.org -- so most of the people who worked on it formed a separate group and began producing LibreOffice. > In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are > compatible > with Libre Office. Yes, > Should I start using Libre Office immediately? That is, of course, entirely up to you. I switched and have not had any regrets. -- T. R. Valentine Your friends will argue with you. Your enemies don't care. 'When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.' -- Erasmus -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
Hi John, * I'm another "older person" who previously used OpenOffice and now uses LibreOffice. * You can see a partial answer to your question at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libreoffice, under the heading "Initial release". * Yes, I would advise you to start using LibreOffice immediately. - Regards, Steve Anderson *=== John Gregson (jfgreg...@shaw.ca) wrote*: Date: Thu, Nov 24, 10:44 AM Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open Office 3.3; on Win 7. Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading away. In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are compatible with Libre Office. Should I start using Libre Office immediately? Please keep abbreviations to a minimum., or at least explain the abbreviation. Thanks in advance. John. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open Office 3.3; on Win 7. Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading away. In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are compatible with Libre Office. Should I start using Libre Office immediately? Please keep abbreviations to a minimum., or at least explain the abbreviation. Thanks in advance. John. John. jfgreg...@shaw.ca -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf
italovignoli wrote > > I am a TDF Director and one of the official spokespersons. > > Apologies for the formatting mess of the previous message, but Nabble > seems to decide on its own how to manage quotes. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@.libreoffice > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/can-I-make-Libre-default-to-save-as-rtf-tp3527035p3533780.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf
I am a TDF Director and one of the official spokespersons. e-letter wrote > > >> In other words, do not waste LO programmers' time to resolve your desire >> to use LO as a free m$o clone. > > You are assuming something completely wrong here. In the future, please > avoid such statements, and - even more important - please listen to people > on this mailing list who seem to be better informed than you are. > > TDF developers are working hard to improve the level of interoperability > with many file formats, because we want LibreOffice to be both the best > implementation of ODF (a format that we want to be the standard for > electronic documents) and the most interoperable office suite. > > Users are free to use LibreOffice to read and write RTF and DOC/XLS/PPT > files (and even DOCX/XLSX/PPTX files), although they should understand > that only ODF will provide the best level of document interoperability, as > it is the native LibreOffice file format and it is also supported by the > latest versions of MS Office for Windows. > > Of course, users should also understand that proprietary formats like RTF > and legacy MS Office formats have been developed in order to lock them in > into using MS Office, and should avoid the formats not because they are > intrinsically bad (although they often are) but because they intentionally > reduce their freedom. > > Although user habits could let many user think that MS Office legacy > formats are the most practical for interoperability, they should not > overlook the fact that by sticking to MS Office legacy format they > perpetuate their lock in into Microsoft products. > > TDF is actively promoting ODF, which is the format of choice for all > actual and future versions of LibreOffice. ODF is not only open and > standard, but is also easier to implement than other ISO standard formats. > For instance, OOXML has been approved as ISO standard in 2008, but after > almost four years is still implemented in the non standard "transitional" > version even by Microsoft (the company behind the original format) because > of the incredible complexity of the format (confirmed by the length of the > documentation of over 7.200 pages, i.e. almost six times as many as the > ODF documentation). > > This incredible complexity is a new form of lock in, as it makes extremely > difficult to reproduce the file format. LibreOffice, on the other way, > represents the best third party implementation of OOXML. > >> If you want to contribute towards reaching a future when "most of the >> world" are at least _aware_ of odf, you should: >> (a) send documents in pdf to view or odf to edit and tell your recipients >> about your use of LO to produce your documents >> in pdf & odf; > (b) send documents in odf and tell your recipients that >> such documents will be visible in m$o but the >> quality will be poor, otherwise recommend use of LO to view/edit document >> to high quality. > > I think that LibreOffice advocates should promote ODF by suggesting them > to install LibreOffice, in order to get all the benefits of a truly open > and standard format as ODF, but should also respect the choice of people > who are not willing to change their office suite. Of course, if these > people are still using MS Office 2003, it is easy to explain that > LibreOffice provides a very similar user experience while offering a large > number of new features and security updates. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@.libreoffice > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/can-I-make-Libre-default-to-save-as-rtf-tp3527035p3533757.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
