date:20111125


On 11/25/2011 05:56 PM, Aleksey Rukhlenko wrote:

Jay Lozier wrote:


What OS, browser are you using?


OS: OpenSUSE 11.4 64 bit

Backward scrolling fails both in standalone flash player and in firefox.

Flash player: 11.1.102.55 (64 bit)
Firefox: 8.0 (Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102)

Does it work normally for you?



No, it does not. I suspect your problem is a Flash problem.
Presentations viewed under a presentation viewer are treated like a
slide show.

Checking Impress SAVE AS options I noticed that you can save to a
*.pps(x) format. Could this work better for you?


*.pps(x) are opened via LO or MS Office. As far as I understand it's the same 
as to save in ppt/odp. The sense of saving in Flash is to be able to play 
presentation without any
offices installed on computer...



As if on a web page, you do only need to make Flash is enabled.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process


25/11/2011 22:23, sgrìobh Tom Davies:

Hi :)
I keep thinking that it's 'got to be' something to do with the permissions in 
Win7.  But it's weird that you are not having the same problem with other 
programs, just with LO.  Have you installed other OpenSource programs such as 
Firefox and Gimp.

Firefox, Thunderbird, VLC, Filezilla... you name it.

What antivirus environment? If your realtime antivirus detects a false
positive in the unpacking / running of the installation, this is the
behavior I have seen. Disable the antivirus / unload the realtime
scanner.

Ah, that worked, I temporarily disabled Panda Internet Security and that 
solved the problem. Dunno if it's of interest but OO wouldn't install 
either. That was very good advice thank you all very much, feel much 
better now :)
And a million other impediments built in by M$ into Windows7. 
Oh yes, 2 Win 7 machines, one XP, d' ya think any but the server pc can 
see the shared printers? Harrr


But then neither Linux nor MacOS are all they're cracked up to be... 
they all have aspects which drive their respective users insane! And 
before you ask, I *detest* the way Linux forces the UI language of an 
application to the language you set in your locale settings. The most 
dimwitted bit of Linux I've seen to date, as if people never mix 
languages on their hardware :)


Thanks again for all your help!

Mike



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process

2011-11-25 Thread V Stuart Foote

Michael,
 
See if this helps...
 
UAC under Windows 7 can bite you at strange times.  So one of the first things 
I do on a new Windows 7 install is to activate the true Administrator account:
 
launch a command window "Run as Administrator" and enter
 
net user Administrator /Active:yes
 
(note capital A's and single space before slash)
 
then run lusrmgr.msc and set a password for the now active Administrator 
account.
 
Log off and onto the Administrator account and try your installation there, 
move you day-to-day account out of the Administrators group keeping just the 
Administrator for installs and sysadmin.
 
Stuart



From: Michael Bauer [mailto:f...@akerbeltz.org]
Sent: Fri 11/25/2011 3:29 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process



Hi again
> Is there an older LO or OOo edition on the machine previously? I have
> seen some reports the Windows uninstaller may leave behind debris that
> confuses the installer.
Hardly, since I only bought the system at lunchtime ;)

25/11/2011 20:50, sgrìobh V Stuart Foote:
> Next step would be as Jay suggested to run a conservative registry cleaner 
> and continuity checker, like CCleaner, or a more aggressive removal tool like 
>  Revo-Uninstaller.
>
> I know it is a new load for you, but you've had a couple of attempts now.
>
> I had a similar experiences on upgrade to 3.4.2 following uninstall 3.4.1 
> without clean-up between.
Done, there was nothing that looked LO related but I told CC to clean up
anyway, problem persists. o.O

Michael


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Scrolling back slides in SWF-exported presentation

2011-11-25 Thread Aleksey Rukhlenko

Jay Lozier wrote:

>>> What OS, browser are you using?
>>>
>> OS: OpenSUSE 11.4 64 bit
>>
>> Backward scrolling fails both in standalone flash player and in firefox.
>>
>> Flash player: 11.1.102.55 (64 bit)
>> Firefox: 8.0 (Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102)
>>
>> Does it work normally for you?
>>
>>
> No, it does not. I suspect your problem is a Flash problem.
> Presentations viewed under a presentation viewer are treated like a
> slide show.
> 
> Checking Impress SAVE AS options I noticed that you can save to a
> *.pps(x) format. Could this work better for you?
> 

*.pps(x) are opened via LO or MS Office. As far as I understand it's the same 
as to save in ppt/odp. The sense of saving in Flash is to be able to play 
presentation without any 
offices installed on computer...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process

2011-11-25 Thread David S. Crampton


Mike,

What antivirus environment? If your realtime antivirus detects a false  
positive in the unpacking / running of the installation, this is the  
behavior I have seen. Disable the antivirus / unload the realtime scanner.


And a million other impediments built in by M$ into Windows7.
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:33:48 -0800, Michael Bauer   
wrote:



Hi ppl,

My motherboard died on me this morning so I was forced to move on to Win  
7 (shudders). Anyway, when I re-downloaded LO (x86), my install process  
got as far as unpacking, then moved onto the C++ process and then  
stopped. The window disappeared and nothing happened. Running the .exe  
or .msi got me an error message saying the setup process was running.  
After shutting that down in Task Manager, didn't get any further than  
before. Tried a reboot, no change either. Tried 3.4.3 - same problem.


I'm flummoxed - any ideas?

Cheers

Mike (the gd localization team)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process

Hi :)
I keep thinking that it's 'got to be' something to do with the permissions in 
Win7.  But it's weird that you are not having the same problem with other 
programs, just with LO.  Have you installed other OpenSource programs such as 
Firefox and Gimp.  

I have not heard of other people having troubles with installing LibreOffice on 
Win7.  It is usually a great success.  But that doesn't help because it just 
means there is no standard approach for when things do go wrong.  

I've really got to stop using "But" at the beginning of sentences.  It's quite 
grating.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 25/11/11, Jay Lozier  wrote:

From: Jay Lozier 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 25 November, 2011, 20:12

On 11/25/2011 01:33 PM, Michael Bauer wrote:
> Hi ppl,
> 
> My motherboard died on me this morning so I was forced to move on to Win 7 
> (shudders). Anyway, when I re-downloaded LO (x86), my install process got as 
> far as unpacking, then moved onto the C++ process and then stopped. The 
> window disappeared and nothing happened. Running the .exe or .msi got me an 
> error message saying the setup process was running. After shutting that down 
> in Task Manager, didn't get any further than before. Tried a reboot, no 
> change either. Tried 3.4.3 - same problem.
> 
> I'm flummoxed - any ideas?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mike (the gd localization team)
> 
> 
> 
Is there an older LO or OOo edition on the machine previously? I have seen some 
reports the Windows uninstaller may leave behind debris that confuses the 
installer.

I would suggest trying to run CCleaner to clean up the registry and then try 
again.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process


Hi again
Is there an older LO or OOo edition on the machine previously? I have 
seen some reports the Windows uninstaller may leave behind debris that 
confuses the installer. 

Hardly, since I only bought the system at lunchtime ;)

25/11/2011 20:50, sgrìobh V Stuart Foote:

Next step would be as Jay suggested to run a conservative registry cleaner and 
continuity checker, like CCleaner, or a more aggressive removal tool like  
Revo-Uninstaller.

I know it is a new load for you, but you've had a couple of attempts now.

I had a similar experiences on upgrade to 3.4.2 following uninstall 3.4.1 
without clean-up between.
Done, there was nothing that looked LO related but I told CC to clean up 
anyway, problem persists. o.O


Michael


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process

2011-11-25 Thread V Stuart Foote

Michael,
 
Actually, Tom's suggestion would be my first as well. Can't tell you how many 
times folks have sworn they have a valid download of an install package--only 
to find they don't when they actually check it.
 
You're HASH values are correct.
 
Next step would be as Jay suggested to run a conservative registry cleaner and 
continuity checker, like CCleaner, or a more aggressive removal tool like  
Revo-Uninstaller.
 
I know it is a new load for you, but you've had a couple of attempts now.
 
I had a similar experiences on upgrade to 3.4.2 following uninstall 3.4.1 
without clean-up between.
 
Stuart



From: Michael Bauer [mailto:f...@akerbeltz.org]
Sent: Fri 11/25/2011 1:23 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process



Hi Tom,

On Windows, you got to be kidding! ;) Bitser says
Checksums for: LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
MD5: c58ad36704e27d6b603d12aa9cebb910
SHA-1: 0898a91d560904454a07cf5e089ed65c828bfe08
SHA-256: f60dd94c317e86dc7df12a5d1ad724a35dcae2d76c6b7e29196c19b46033b53f

And yes, I'm admin, been installing software all afternoon.

Salude

Michael

25/11/2011 18:37, sgrìobh Tom Davies:
> Hi:)
> Have you used md5sum or SHA to check the download?  Are you sure you have 
> administrator privileges on your machine when you try installing?
> Regards from
> Tom:)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Video output from Impress

2011-11-25 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


On 11/25/2011 12:57 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Sorry for the very slow response!  I thought that
File - "Save As..."
could save in a wide variety of movie formats? 
Regards from

Tom :)
Check the FILE >> EXPORT options. I know Flash is there but I am not 
sure about others.


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From: rod
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Video output from Impress
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 20 November, 2011, 7:54

I have just spent quite a bit of time making a slide show in Impress and what
I want to do is to write the presentation to a DVD that can be played on a
standard DVD player.  Is there any way that I can output in some video
format? I would appreciate any assistance in this matter as I would rather
not have to start over in some other package.
Thanks in advance
Rod

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office



The big reason to use LibreOffice 3.4.4 over OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 is 
that LO reads/writes ".docx" files better that OOo's offering.  It had 
come a long way from its OOo roots about a year ago.


So LO 3.4.4 should be looked at as the better product.

That is the real reason to try LO now.

As for an "older person" dealing with this question, well try it.  As an 
older person myself, I have switched and I like it.



On 11/24/2011 02:37 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Lol, it was all very exciting and a bit turgid at the same time.  Still is, even tho things have calmed down a lot now apparently. 

The basic up-shot is that you don't need to change.  OpenOffice faded like the moon wanes and then waxes.  Hopefully under Apache it will wax towards being full again. 

You can choose to "jump ship" now and join the much more exciting and better developed LibreOffice now or you could choose to stick-it-out a bit longer and then choose to change (or not) at some point later on. 


Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 24/11/11, Regina Henschel  wrote:

From: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 24 November, 2011, 19:18

Hi John,

John Gregson schrieb:

I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open Office
3.3; on Win 7.
Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading
away.

When Oracle bought Sun it got the rights on OpenOffice.org among other things. But Oracle had no 
interest to develop OpenOffice.org. It shuts down the development department and dismissed the 
developers. Oracle gave Apache the possibility to do further work on OpenOffice.org. But parts of 
OpenOffice.org are not compatible with the Apache license. So the current work is to identify those 
parts and replace them with Apache license compatible solutions. In addition, OpenOffice.org was 
not only a product but had a lot of infrastructure around like Wiki, Bugzilla, mailinglists and 
forums, which Apache tries to migrate to the way Apache works. So it will last some time till the 
next release will appear and it will no longer be an "OpenOffice.org" but an "Apache 
OpenOffice". For more information see for example 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/OpenOffice.org+Migration+Status

Apache is not an enterprise but a foundation and does not employs developers 
but the work is done by volunteers. In this aspect it is similar with The 
Document Foundation and LibreOffice. There are enterprises which pay some 
developers (including some of the old stuff) to work full time on the Apache 
OpenOffice. That is similar to the situation here, where some enterprises pay 
developers to work full time on LibreOffice. The latter had worked already on 
the OpenOffice.org code for a long time and LibreOffice gets all of their 
know-how. The fact, that lot of the volunteers of OpenOffice.org work now on 
LibreOffice has been told already.


In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files are
compatible with Libre Office. Should I start using Libre Office
immediately? Please keep abbreviations to a minimum., or at least
explain the abbreviation.

You can start immediately with LibreOffice. There are some versions available 
parallel. The version with the higher second number has got new features but 
might contain some more bugs. The version with the smaller second number does 
not have the latest features but has got a lot of bug fixes already and is in 
use a long time by many users.

Kind regards
Regina





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process


On 11/25/2011 01:33 PM, Michael Bauer wrote:

Hi ppl,

My motherboard died on me this morning so I was forced to move on to 
Win 7 (shudders). Anyway, when I re-downloaded LO (x86), my install 
process got as far as unpacking, then moved onto the C++ process and 
then stopped. The window disappeared and nothing happened. Running the 
.exe or .msi got me an error message saying the setup process was 
running. After shutting that down in Task Manager, didn't get any 
further than before. Tried a reboot, no change either. Tried 3.4.3 - 
same problem.


I'm flummoxed - any ideas?

Cheers

Mike (the gd localization team)



Is there an older LO or OOo edition on the machine previously? I have 
seen some reports the Windows uninstaller may leave behind debris that 
confuses the installer.


I would suggest trying to run CCleaner to clean up the registry and then 
try again.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Scrolling back slides in SWF-exported presentation


On 11/25/2011 02:25 PM, Aleksey Rukhlenko wrote:

Jay Lozier wrote:


On 11/25/2011 06:16 AM, Aleksey Rukhlenko wrote:

Greetings!

When I export the presentation into SWF (flash) it runs fine, but I can't
understand how to scroll back slides?

Best regards, Aleksey.



I assume you want to scroll backwards in the flash presentation. It may
be a problem with flash, plug-in is not able to easily scroll backwards.

What OS, browser are you using?


OS: OpenSUSE 11.4 64 bit

Backward scrolling fails both in standalone flash player and in firefox.

Flash player: 11.1.102.55 (64 bit)
Firefox: 8.0 (Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102)

Does it work normally for you?


No, it does not. I suspect your problem is a Flash problem. 
Presentations viewed under a presentation viewer are treated like a 
slide show.


Checking Impress SAVE AS options I noticed that you can save to a 
*.pps(x) format. Could this work better for you?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office

2011-11-25 Thread Adam Tauno Williams


Quoting John Gregson :
I am an older person, with limited computer knowledge, using Open  
Office 3.3; on Win 7.

Would some Kind Soul please explain why Open Office seems to be fading away.


"Why" doesn't really matter to the end-user.  It is all about  
corporate stupidity.  LibreOffice is the now, OpenOffice is the then.


In Open office, I use Writer and Calc; I assume that the OOo files  
are compatible with Libre Office.


Yes, completely.  And the application will be comfortably the same


Should I start using Libre Office immediately?


Yes.  LibreOffice has more developers and just more bugfixes.  It is  
the same, just better.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Styles not saving

2011-11-25 Thread Tom

Hi :)
Have you tried the normal documentation about styles and templates: 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice
GS Ch3 and/or 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
Writer Guide Chapters 6, 7, 10.

Errr or is this question already solved?
Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Scrolling back slides in SWF-exported presentation

2011-11-25 Thread Aleksey Rukhlenko

Jay Lozier wrote:

> On 11/25/2011 06:16 AM, Aleksey Rukhlenko wrote:
>> Greetings!
>>
>> When I export the presentation into SWF (flash) it runs fine, but I can't
>> understand how to scroll back slides?
>>
>> Best regards, Aleksey.
>>
>>
> I assume you want to scroll backwards in the flash presentation. It may
> be a problem with flash, plug-in is not able to easily scroll backwards.
> 
> What OS, browser are you using?
> 

OS: OpenSUSE 11.4 64 bit

Backward scrolling fails both in standalone flash player and in firefox.

Flash player: 11.1.102.55 (64 bit)
Firefox: 8.0 (Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102)

Does it work normally for you?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process


Hi Tom,

On Windows, you got to be kidding! ;) Bitser says
Checksums for: LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
MD5: c58ad36704e27d6b603d12aa9cebb910
SHA-1: 0898a91d560904454a07cf5e089ed65c828bfe08
SHA-256: f60dd94c317e86dc7df12a5d1ad724a35dcae2d76c6b7e29196c19b46033b53f

And yes, I'm admin, been installing software all afternoon.

Salude

Michael

25/11/2011 18:37, sgrìobh Tom Davies:

Hi:)
Have you used md5sum or SHA to check the download?  Are you sure you have administrator privileges on your machine when you try installing? 
Regards from

Tom:)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process

Hi :)
Have you used md5sum or SHA to check the download?  Are you sure you have 
administrator privileges on your machine when you try installing?  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 25/11/11, Michael Bauer  wrote:

From: Michael Bauer 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 25 November, 2011, 18:33

Hi ppl,

My motherboard died on me this morning so I was forced to move on to Win 7 
(shudders). Anyway, when I re-downloaded LO (x86), my install process got as 
far as unpacking, then moved onto the C++ process and then stopped. The window 
disappeared and nothing happened. Running the .exe or .msi got me an error 
message saying the setup process was running. After shutting that down in Task 
Manager, didn't get any further than before. Tried a reboot, no change either. 
Tried 3.4.3 - same problem.

I'm flummoxed - any ideas?

Cheers

Mike (the gd localization team)



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[libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process


Hi ppl,

My motherboard died on me this morning so I was forced to move on to Win 
7 (shudders). Anyway, when I re-downloaded LO (x86), my install process 
got as far as unpacking, then moved onto the C++ process and then 
stopped. The window disappeared and nothing happened. Running the .exe 
or .msi got me an error message saying the setup process was running. 
After shutting that down in Task Manager, didn't get any further than 
before. Tried a reboot, no change either. Tried 3.4.3 - same problem.


I'm flummoxed - any ideas?

Cheers

Mike (the gd localization team)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Images get smaller and deformed in .doc

Hi :)
The Doc format and DocX are both a bit limiting for moving images around.  I 
can't remember the default "Anchor point" but i think Word only offers a couple 
of options whereas Writer has 4 and then lots of "Wrap" options too.  Your 
option of "Anchor to character" should be ok as i am fairly sure it is 
supported in both.  

I found that starting again with a new document created in Writer solved a lot 
of the problems i had been having with one document.  Previously i had been 
just opening the old one that had originally been created in Word and then 
modifying it a little.  Modifying the one created in Writer works well but the 
Word one always has weird errors.  

Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 22/11/11, José Antonio Moray Serrano  wrote:

From: José Antonio Moray Serrano 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Images get smaller and deformed in .doc
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
Date: Tuesday, 22 November, 2011, 8:28

Yes, that is what happens. But I never added a border but when I look the 
image properties, it's not supposed to be any border. Anyway, when I 
select "No borders", the image gets OK again. But this is strange, and I can't 
do this with every image everytime I open a document.

I don't know if LibreOffice team read this messages, but I think this is a bug 
and they would need to know this in order to fix it. And, of 
course, I need to know if there's any way I can solve this.

Thanks!
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4

Hi :)
The 3.4.3 release brings together the advantages of both branches.  It's the 
first of the 3.4.x line that really settled into being stable but it has the 
improved MS .docX (etc) compatibility that the 3.3.x branch lacks a little.  

I am on 3.4.3 on Windows but 3.3.2 on Ubuntu and i am quite happy with both 
although i probably don't push them as much as you need to.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sun, 20/11/11, Onyeibo Oku  wrote:

From: Onyeibo Oku 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
To: "Libre, Users" 
Date: Sunday, 20 November, 2011, 7:50

It will be interesting to know what constitutes a regression in this case. I 
use 3.4.x on my business machines.

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-Original Message-
From: Steve Edmonds 
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:11:04 
To: 
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4



On 19/11/11 01:06, Martin Jungowski wrote:
> Recently, we've started the second phase of our company-wide migration
> from OpenOffice.org 3.2 to 3.3 and have encountered massive problems
> on our Linux terminal servers. They were so big that we've decided to
> put the project on hold for now and start looking for alternatives.
> Obviously, LibreOffice is our #1 choice here. However, even though
> I've been browsing the LO website for two days now I am unable to
> decide whether 3.3 or 3.4 would be better for us. As far as I can see
> they are both recommended for enterprise use in production
> environments but what I'm missing is a clear marketing-bubble free
> technical comparison. Does that exist? Or maybe an overview over what
> (enterprise-related) features 3.4 might have that 3.3 doesn't?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>  Martin
>
I run 3.3.4 on all our business machines and latest production 3.4 line
on my laptop for testing. To date I am not confident to roll out the 3.4
line. Although MSX compatibility is improved the regressions are too
much of a detriment. This might all change in a month or so, and it
might not. So I keep monitoring what is important in our business.
Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Video output from Impress

Hi :)
Sorry for the very slow response!  I thought that 
File - "Save As..." 
could save in a wide variety of movie formats?  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sun, 20/11/11, rod  wrote:

From: rod 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Video output from Impress
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 20 November, 2011, 7:54

I have just spent quite a bit of time making a slide show in Impress and what
I want to do is to write the presentation to a DVD that can be played on a
standard DVD player.  Is there any way that I can output in some video
format? I would appreciate any assistance in this matter as I would rather
not have to start over in some other package.
Thanks in advance
Rod

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How do I go to a specific line number in a document?

2011-11-25 Thread Onyeibo Oku

Are you on Linux? Use gedit to open it. Make sure linenumbers are enabled on 
gedit preferences.  On windows open with notepad and do likewise
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-Original Message-
From: Andy Hatchett 
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:15:31 
To: 
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How do I go to a specific line number in a 
document?

I'm a genealogist and an error log from my program tells me there is an error
in line 33801 of a GEDCOM that I recently imported.

The problem is that the GEDCOM doesn't have line numbers as it is a text
document. I've put it into Libre and turned on line numbering but see no way
to go directly to a specific line number. The only way I see to get to a
line number is to scroll thru the document.

Since there are 300,000+  lines in the document this is getting on my
nerves.

Any help appreciated.

Andy Hatchett

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[libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf

2011-11-25 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 11/25/11 11:01 AM, e-letter wrote:

> What exactly is being assumed? Better informed about what? The
> original statement is merely a declaration of personal interest; a
> preference that limited time spent resolving "compatibility" is
> instead spent improving native odf.

Well, if is a declaration of personal interest, please state this.

> Review the bug reports and the mailing list posts; it can be seen that
> users do not appreciate the strategic error in using LO to create m$
> documents.

Of course, bug reports and mailing lists reflect the more vocal people,
who seems to be biased towards going face to face against Microsoft.

Unfortunately (for you and the people who share the same idea), history
shows that going face to face against Microsoft is the wrong strategy.

OOXML has been approved in his rotten version because there have been
people (and companies) going face to face against Microsoft instead of
adopting a different strategy. With Microsoft, you have to play "David
against Goliath", because in any other way Microsoft is going to
outpower any other company (including IBM), just because they have got
the IBM lesson (FUD and lobby) and made it better.

Again, history has demonstrated that guerrilla marketing strategies are
more effective than traditional ones. You are free to choose war, but we
are not going to follow you (at least until we have been elected
directors of the foundation by the members).

> See comment above. Without forcing novice users to either pay m$ or
> use a free(dom) alternative, odf usage will remain low.

I have written exactly the opposite of what you understand (I am not a
native English speaker, so is my fault). I have written that users who
know the advantages of ODF should become evangelists of the format and
suggest to other users to use ODF, because MS Office reads and writes
ODF (although in a limited way).

Pissing off users by sending them formats that they are not able to read
(most users do not even know the concept of file formats), will not
achieve any result other than alienating the reputation of the software
used to produce the unreadable formats.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Support Required

2011-11-25 Thread Vidya

Hi Regina Henschel ,

My goals are as follows:

1).  Able to view Microsoft documents (Word,excel,powerpoint , etc..) from 
within application
2).  Able to edit Microsoft documents (Word,excel,powerpoint , etc..) from 
within application
3).  Keep the code purely managed.
4).  Keep the document viewer / editor as light weight as possible.
5).  Migrate doc to docx.
6).  Not interfere with other applications running that use Microsoft
Word (such as Outlook).
7).  The application will use the WPF (Windows Presentation Foundation) 
technology.

I am redesigning a current application that uses the DSO Framer.  Although the 
DSO Framer has given me some of the items above.

Could you please suggest me how to use libre office to achieve the above goals.


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[libreoffice-users] How do I go to a specific line number in a document?

2011-11-25 Thread Andy Hatchett

I'm a genealogist and an error log from my program tells me there is an error
in line 33801 of a GEDCOM that I recently imported.

The problem is that the GEDCOM doesn't have line numbers as it is a text
document. I've put it into Libre and turned on line numbering but see no way
to go directly to a specific line number. The only way I see to get to a
line number is to scroll thru the document.

Since there are 300,000+  lines in the document this is getting on my
nerves.

Any help appreciated.

Andy Hatchett



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Scrolling back slides in SWF-exported presentation


On 11/25/2011 06:16 AM, Aleksey Rukhlenko wrote:

Greetings!

When I export the presentation into SWF (flash) it runs fine, but I can't 
understand how to scroll back slides?

Best regards, Aleksey.


I assume you want to scroll backwards in the flash presentation. It may 
be a problem with flash, plug-in is not able to easily scroll backwards.


What OS, browser are you using?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office

Hi :)
Good points!  Quite a few Extensions written for OpenOffice got pulled into the 
main install of LibreOffice.  So if there is a missing Extension don't worry, 
just check to see if you can still do the thing you wanted to do.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 25/11/11, toki  wrote:

From: toki 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 25 November, 2011, 14:33

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On 24/11/11 17:44, John Gregson wrote:

> Should I start using Libre Office immediately?

Which extensions do you use?

There are some extensions that can't be installed in LibO, but can be
installed in OOo.
There are some extensions that can't be installed in OOo, but can be
installed in LibO.  (I do not have a comprehensive list of which
extensions install in which program.)

What type of content, and documents do you create?

Whilst the two are approximately par for all types of content, and all
document formats, the minor differences between the two make some types
of content creation easier with one program, than with the other:
* Calc in LibO offers slightly better functionality that Calc in OOo.
Howver, by installing the appropriate extensions, most of the
distinctions are lost;
* Presentation in LibO is marginally better than in OOo, but by
installing the appropriate extensions, the remaining differences won't
be noticed by anybody except an 'extreme power user";
* Write in OOo is slightly better than Write in LibO.  However, those
differences are minimal. The installed, and installable extensions are
what makes the difference between the two.
* I don't use Draw, so I don't know how different the two are;
* Math: I always install dMath, and go from there. IMNSHO, dMath should
be part of included build, and not an extension;

* Legacy desktop file formats (formats from prior to circa 2005) and
mobile device file formats are being switched to extensions for the user
to install;
* eBook file formats (ePub, LIT, FB, DAISY) are only available as
extensions. These tend to be platform specific. Those that have been
adapted for LibO tend to have better support, and fewer bugs. (The
preference here seems to be to support the Windows Operating
System,rather than Linux.);


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I go to a specific line number in a document?

On 11/25/2011 09:59 AM, Pedro wrote:

Andy Hatchett wrote

I'm a genealogist and an error log from my program tells me there is an
error in line 33801 of a GEDCOM that I recently imported.

The problem is that the GEDCOM doesn't have line numbers as it is a text
document. I've put it into Libre and turned on line numbering but see no
way to go directly to a specific line number. The only way I see to get to
a line number is to scroll thru the document.

You may want to use a program such as Gramps that handles GEDCOM files
natively. I know Gramps allows exporting to different file formats. The
csv format is compatible with LO as well as many other programs.

The error report is typical of database applications, noting there was a
problem with the data is a specific row. In a database, you might be
able to search on an id number that is the same as the line number - if
the database has such an id number in each record.

I am not aware that it is possible to jump to a specific line in a
LibreOffice Write (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)
I believe you are correct, the FIND/REPLACE searches on the text
supplied not a specific location.

I think that a GEDCOM file is a plain text file, so I would recommend
getting a plain text editor such as Notepad2-mod
(there are many others, this is my favorite) from
http://code.google.com/p/notepad2-mod/

Install it or simply get the zipped version, check the View, Line Numbers
option (just to have a visual confirmation) and then press Ctrl+G or click
on Edit, Goto and type the line number.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I go to a specific line number in a document?

2011-11-25 Thread Gene Young


On 11/25/2011 9:59 AM, Pedro wrote:


Andy Hatchett wrote


I'm a genealogist and an error log from my program tells me there is an
error in line 33801 of a GEDCOM that I recently imported.

The problem is that the GEDCOM doesn't have line numbers as it is a text
document. I've put it into Libre and turned on line numbering but see no
way to go directly to a specific line number. The only way I see to get to
a line number is to scroll thru the document.





Since a gedcom is a straightforward text file, download the fee NoteTab 
Lite text editor.  Once it is installed, open your gedcom, hit 
ctrl-shift-l, enter 33801 and ENTER.  You are trying to drive a tack 
with a sledgehammer.  NoteTab is an excellent tack hammer.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I go to a specific line number in a document?

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro


Andy Hatchett wrote
> 
> I'm a genealogist and an error log from my program tells me there is an
> error in line 33801 of a GEDCOM that I recently imported.
> 
> The problem is that the GEDCOM doesn't have line numbers as it is a text
> document. I've put it into Libre and turned on line numbering but see no
> way to go directly to a specific line number. The only way I see to get to
> a line number is to scroll thru the document.
> 

I am not aware that it is possible to jump to a specific line in a
LibreOffice Write  (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)

I think that a GEDCOM file is a plain text file, so I would recommend
getting a plain text editor such as Notepad2-mod
(there are many others, this is my favorite) from
http://code.google.com/p/notepad2-mod/

Install it or simply get the zipped version, check the View, Line Numbers
option  (just to have a visual confirmation) and then press Ctrl+G or click
on Edit, Goto and type the line number.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office

2011-11-25 Thread toki

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On 24/11/11 17:44, John Gregson wrote:

> Should I start using Libre Office immediately?

Which extensions do you use?

There are some extensions that can't be installed in LibO, but can be
installed in OOo.
There are some extensions that can't be installed in OOo, but can be
installed in LibO.  (I do not have a comprehensive list of which
extensions install in which program.)

What type of content, and documents do you create?

Whilst the two are approximately par for all types of content, and all
document formats, the minor differences between the two make some types
of content creation easier with one program, than with the other:
* Calc in LibO offers slightly better functionality that Calc in OOo.
Howver, by installing the appropriate extensions, most of the
distinctions are lost;
* Presentation in LibO is marginally better than in OOo, but by
installing the appropriate extensions, the remaining differences won't
be noticed by anybody except an 'extreme power user";
* Write in OOo is slightly better than Write in LibO.  However, those
differences are minimal. The installed, and installable extensions are
what makes the difference between the two.
* I don't use Draw, so I don't know how different the two are;
* Math: I always install dMath, and go from there. IMNSHO, dMath should
be part of included build, and not an extension;

* Legacy desktop file formats (formats from prior to circa 2005) and
mobile device file formats are being switched to extensions for the user
to install;
* eBook file formats (ePub, LIT, FB, DAISY) are only available as
extensions. These tend to be platform specific. Those that have been
adapted for LibO tend to have better support, and fewer bugs. (The
preference here seems to be to support the Windows Operating
System,rather than Linux.);


jonathon
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Setting the default save folder system-wide (Ubuntu 11.10)

Hi :)

Tools - Options - Paths

Lets you know where documents are saved by default and lets you edit the 
default location.  Again, once you have set-up all the settings it might be 
possible to copy the entire user-profile to all the users on all the machines.  
The user profile is also shown in the Paths place.  It's something like 
 ~ .libreoffice/3/user
I would copy the entire ~/libreoffice folder.  

This guide shows the typical defaults but you might have already changed this 
quite significantly.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile

Sorry this reply is so late!  I was hoping for something really clever.  I 
think Julien's answer is pretty smart but assumes you are using unix-based 
platforms for the desktop clients.  There are some guides for corporate 
deployments in OpenOffice and they work much the same in LibreOffice too.  The 
best guides i have links to are here
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Corporate_Users
but i think you have already seen those.

Apols and regards from
Tom :)


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From: julien2412 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Setting the default save folder system-wide 
(Ubuntu 11.10)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 24 November, 2011, 12:56

Hello,

I'm not in front of my personal machine but I thought about this :
- in a machine set the default save folder for LO
- grep the default save folder in LO profile to find which file and which
command allows this.
- create a patch that you'll apply after LO install for the system-wide
install.

Julien.

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[libreoffice-users] Scrolling back slides in SWF-exported presentation

2011-11-25 Thread Aleksey Rukhlenko

Greetings!

When I export the presentation into SWF (flash) it runs fine, but I can't 
understand how to scroll back slides?

Best regards, Aleksey.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf