Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade information

[webmaster-Kracked_P_P]

Yes, 3.4.6 will replace 3.4.4 without any issues.

I do not know about the more from 3.4.6 to 3.5.2.

If you are a "power user", or business user, I would stick with 3.4.6.
If you want the more cutting edge version, go ahead and install 3.5.2 as 
the "upgrade".


I have not upgraded my Windows laptops from 3.4.5 yet.  I run Ubuntu and 
still run 3.4.5.


IF you want 3.4.5, you can get it.  But 3.4.6 is the last of that line 
and may be better.



On 04/05/2012 06:38 PM, Libre User wrote:

I am currently running LO 3.4.4.

I want to upgrade to LO 3.5.2.

Release notes say that "For Windows users that have LibreOffice prior 
to version 3.4.5 installed, either uninstall that beforehand, or 
upgrade to 3.4.5. Otherwise, the upgrade to 3.5.2 may fail."


Am I correct in thinking that upgrade means "install directly over 
previous version without uninstalling previous version"?


Therefore, I can install 3.4.6 (3.4.5 is not available) directly over 
3.4.4 and then install 3.5.2 directly over 3.4.6 and all my setting 
will remain.


Jerry 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Figure Numbering disrupted in Master Document (LO 3.5)

[NoOp]

On 04/05/2012 02:57 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> 
> WE NEED THIS STRESSED on the web site.
> 
> The 3.5.x line is still the "cutting edge" version and is not ready for 
> the needs of business user, and the personal user that must have as few 
> issues as possible.

Ummm... right.

3.5.2 is the default when you click the 'Download' button:
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/

So now lets check the release notes:
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/

LibreOffice 3.5.2 Final (2012-04-05)

This is the third release from the 3.5 branch of LibreOffice.
It contains many exciting new features, and is the recommended version
for private users and small enterprises.


But wait... there's more:

LibreOffice 3.4.6 Final (2012-03-22)

This is the seventh release of the LibreOffice 3.4 code line.
LibreOffice 3.4.6 fixes the most-important bugs identified by users in
the previous version, as well as a potential security issue. It is of
course safe to be deployed for production needs.
LibreOffice 3.4 contains lots of new features compared to 3.3.


As a "user", particularly a new "user", which version would you choose?
I suggest you take this up on the discuss list.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Convert multi-sheet ods to csv files

[NoOp]

On 04/05/2012 03:43 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 05.04.2012 23:43, NoOp wrote:
>>
>> Why not just install Python6? You can have multiple versions installed
>> (I have both 5&  6).
>>
> 
> The Python runtime with the UNO module needs to be compiled with the 
> exact same compiler as the office suite.
>> http://www.openoffice.org/udk/python/python-bridge.html

Ah. Got it. Thanks Andreas.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Convert multi-sheet ods to csv files

[Andreas Säger]

Am 05.04.2012 23:43, NoOp wrote:


Why not just install Python6? You can have multiple versions installed
(I have both 5&  6).



The Python runtime with the UNO module needs to be compiled with the 
exact same compiler as the office suite.

http://www.openoffice.org/udk/python/python-bridge.html




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[libreoffice-users] Upgrade information

[Libre User]

I am currently running LO 3.4.4.

I want to upgrade to LO 3.5.2.

Release notes say that "For Windows users that have LibreOffice prior 
to version 3.4.5 installed, either uninstall that beforehand, or 
upgrade to 3.4.5. Otherwise, the upgrade to 3.5.2 may fail."


Am I correct in thinking that upgrade means "install directly over 
previous version without uninstalling previous version"?


Therefore, I can install 3.4.6 (3.4.5 is not available) directly over 
3.4.4 and then install 3.5.2 directly over 3.4.6 and all my setting 
will remain.


Jerry 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Convert multi-sheet ods to csv files

[NoOp]

On 04/02/2012 07:49 AM, Pedro wrote:
> 
> Andreas Säger wrote
>> 
>> IMHO, this indicates that you are not running the LibO Python which 
>> certainly has the module named uno. Each and every extension and macro 
>> imports uno.
>> 
> 
> Excellent tip.  In fact it was running another Python version needed for
> ArcGis. I just removed it but the Python version included with LibreOffice
> fails to execute. It reports "This application has failed to start because
> python26.dll was not Found. Re-installing the application may fix this
> problem."

Why not just install Python6? You can have multiple versions installed
(I have both 5 & 6).

> 
> In fact i can only find python.exe.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled LO
> 3.5.2rc2 but it still doesn't work.

...


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Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: [libreoffice-users] Page breaks never get really deleted, bug shows when saving as docx.

[Joachim Otahal (privat)]

MiguelAngel schrieb:

El 05/04/12 22:21, Joachim Otahal (privat) escribió:

Tom Davies schrieb:

Hi :)
Again a bug-report seems like a good plan. DocX is apparently not
properly supported in MS Office and there are differences between the
way it is implemented in MSO 2007 and MSO 2010.
This sort of problem is one of the reasons that people here recommend
keeping an original in Odt format and only save a copy in some other
format when you need to share the document with someone else that
can't or won't install LibreOffice or OpenOffice or any of the other
office suites or programs that do support the OpenDocument Format.
People are quite happy to install all sorts of extra programs to read
Pdfs but then suddenly object to installing something to read Odfs.
This will change as the format is becoming more popular.

Regards from
Tom :)


Well, it is not really my choice. I do have mixed environments, at work
it is MS-office and some LO. At home it is LO only. Since the work
environment has a higer priority any documents which are related to work
have to be .doc or .docx.

But: In this case it looks like an .odt bug too, the page break gets
saved even after it was deleted, I saw it in the source of the document.
I just have to extract it to make a usable bug report. It simply does
not show up if you repoen the .odt document.

Jou



I can't reproduce it in LibreOffice 3.5.2RC2 Win7x64.
Maybe something in default template or in the user profile.
Miguel Ángel



I deleted the appdata\libreoffice again, deleted the reg keys, and 
checked for openoffice remains and killed them too.


The problem still appears..

The relevant parts extracted from the odt..

This is the one with the normal five page breaks (content.xml):


style:parent-style-name="Standard">







text:name="Illustration"/>





1

2

3

4

5






This is the one with the page breaks "removed", or rather hidden:


style:parent-style-name="Standard" style:master-page-name="">
fo:break-before="auto" fo:break-after="auto"/>


style:parent-style-name="Standard" style:master-page-name="">
fo:break-before="auto" fo:break-after="auto"/>


style:parent-style-name="Standard" style:master-page-name="">
fo:break-before="auto" fo:break-after="auto"/>


style:parent-style-name="Standard" style:master-page-name="">
fo:break-before="auto" fo:break-after="auto"/>






text:name="Illustration"/>





1

2

3

4

5






This is the way after the merry go round through word 2010 and re-save 
it as .odt, now the page breaks are REALLY removed:



style:parent-style-name="Standard">







text:name="Illustration"/>





1

2

3

4

5






Jou

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Using OOoPython

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 05/04/12 22:31, Glenn Ramsey a écrit :

Hi Glenn,
> 

> 
> Is there a way to automatically set this up, or do I have to write
> something in my script to discover and configure the path? I would like
> this to work on Linux, Windows and OSX.
> 
Best to ask your question on the dev list, they'd know better about
bootstrapping pythonOOo, especially on Mac, which has always been a bit
of a PITA.

If you do, I will follow the answers given, out of personal interest,
because I'd like to develop something in Python with LO that I can use
cross-platform too.

Alex



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page breaks never get really deleted, bug shows when saving as docx.

[MiguelAngel]

El 05/04/12 22:21, Joachim Otahal (privat) escribió:

Tom Davies schrieb:

Hi :)
Again a bug-report seems like a good plan. DocX is apparently not
properly supported in MS Office and there are differences between the
way it is implemented in MSO 2007 and MSO 2010.
This sort of problem is one of the reasons that people here recommend
keeping an original in Odt format and only save a copy in some other
format when you need to share the document with someone else that
can't or won't install LibreOffice or OpenOffice or any of the other
office suites or programs that do support the OpenDocument Format.
People are quite happy to install all sorts of extra programs to read
Pdfs but then suddenly object to installing something to read Odfs.
This will change as the format is becoming more popular.

Regards from
Tom :)


Well, it is not really my choice. I do have mixed environments, at work
it is MS-office and some LO. At home it is LO only. Since the work
environment has a higer priority any documents which are related to work
have to be .doc or .docx.

But: In this case it looks like an .odt bug too, the page break gets
saved even after it was deleted, I saw it in the source of the document.
I just have to extract it to make a usable bug report. It simply does
not show up if you repoen the .odt document.

Jou



I can't reproduce it in LibreOffice 3.5.2RC2 Win7x64.
Maybe something in default template or in the user profile.
Miguel Ángel

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[libreoffice-users] Using OOoPython

[Glenn Ramsey]

Hi All,

I am wanting to call LibreOffice from a Python script, using uno, to
convert some files. Because of version incompatibilities between the system
Python and the version distributed with LO (OOoPython) it seems that the
only way that "import uno" will work reliably is when it is done from
OOoPython. Because of this I am planning to have a system Python script run
OOoPython via subprocess.call(...) to do the conversion. By playing around
with OOoPython on the command line (in OSX 10.6) I discovered that the
PYTHONPATH needs to be set up properly before uno can be successfully
imported.

Is there a way to automatically set this up, or do I have to write
something in my script to discover and configure the path? I would like
this to work on Linux, Windows and OSX.

Glenn

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page breaks never get really deleted, bug shows when saving as docx.

[Joachim Otahal (privat)]

Tom Davies schrieb:

Hi :)
Again a bug-report seems like a good plan.  DocX is apparently not properly supported in MS Office and there are differences between the way it is implemented in MSO 2007 and MSO 2010. 


This sort of problem is one of the reasons that people here recommend keeping 
an original in Odt format and only save a copy in some other format when you 
need to share the document with someone else that can't or won't install 
LibreOffice or OpenOffice or any of the other office suites or programs that do 
support the OpenDocument Format.  People are quite happy to install all sorts 
of extra programs to read Pdfs but then suddenly object to installing something 
to read Odfs.  This will change as the format is becoming more popular.

Regards from
Tom :)


Well, it is not really my choice. I do have mixed environments, at work 
it is MS-office and some LO. At home it is LO only. Since the work 
environment has a higer priority any documents which are related to work 
have to be .doc or .docx.


But: In this case it looks like an .odt bug too, the page break gets 
saved even after it was deleted, I saw it in the source of the document. 
I just have to extract it to make a usable bug report. It simply does 
not show up if you repoen the .odt document.


Jou


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug: missing in new document.docx

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Sorry, i should have remembered that.  LibreOffice develops fast but somehow i 
doubt the issues you have pin-pointed would have been affected.  I don't think 
you need to race into testing it on the 3.5.2 unless the devs ask.  They 
probably have more idea about whether it's been cleared up already or not.
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Thu, 5/4/12, Joachim Otahal (privat)  wrote:

From: Joachim Otahal (privat) 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug: missing  in new document.docx
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 20:46

Tom Davies schrieb:
> Hi :)
> It is a good idea to ask the Users List first but it looks like you need to 
> post this as a proper bug-report.

Great, AFTER I submit the bug report LO 3.5.2 is released. Now I have to test 
again for this bug. Perfect timing, hm?

Jou


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page breaks never get really deleted, bug shows when saving as docx.

[Joachim Otahal (privat)]

Jay Lozier schrieb:

Joachim,

On 04/05/2012 03:02 PM, Joachim Otahal (privat) wrote:

You make a document.
You add page breaks.
You remove page breaks.
You save it (as .odt).
Open it.
The document appears to be correct.

Open the document, save as .docx.
Open the .docx.
All the page breaks which you deleted are back.
You remove the page breaks again.
Save as .docx.
Open the .docx.
All the page breaks which you deleted are back.
Repeat until you lose your mind.

You can also open the docx, correct the page breaks, save as .odt, 
document looks fine. You open again as .docx, the page breaks are 
back again.
Did save over the original docx with the revised docx? Saving to odt 
will not automatically update the original docx file; it will be 
unchanged unless you save to it..


The .odt and .docx are separate documents, of course the .docx does not 
get updated when saving the odt *g*.

A funny question, like asking for my sanity *g*.




Copy paste into a new document does not fix.

If you open the .docx document in Office 2010 it looks the way it is 
supposed to look, the page breaks are gone.

You save it as docx in Office 2010.
You open it in LO again, and finally the page breaks are gone, you 
can even save it again, and the page breaks STAY gone, as it should 
have been with LO in first place.




I did this

1. Create document with manual page breaks
2. Saved documents in odt
3. Deleted page breaks
4. Saved revised document with new name (/name-1/) in odt
5. Saved revised document as docx
6. Closed document
7. Opened odt and docx versions and did have any page breaks.


You use a strange wording here. "did" and "any" don't match in my 
English parser, were they gone or not?


Try to reproduce it this way:
new document, type "1" in the line and hit CR, then add a manual page break.
type "2" in a line and add a manual page break.
Repeat until you reach 5.
Save the document as .odt.
Close LO.
Open the document.
Remove the page breaks (using the symbol which appears between the pages 
when you hover there).

Save as .odt.
Close LO.
Open the .odt, everything looks fine.
Do "file" "save as" "microsoft office 2007/2010 docx".
Close LO.
Open the .docx you just saved.
Your page breaks which you removed before saving as .odt are back again.



I am using LO 3.5.1 (LibreOffice 3.5.1.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:102)) 
with Linux Mint 12


What version of LO are you using? And is your OS Windows?



Was using: 3.5.1 during the first mail, now using 3.5.2, Win7 x64. Could 
you check again with the exact procedure I described above?


Jou

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug: missing in new document.docx

[Joachim Otahal (privat)]

Tom Davies schrieb:

Hi :)
It is a good idea to ask the Users List first but it looks like you need to 
post this as a proper bug-report.


Great, AFTER I submit the bug report LO 3.5.2 is released. Now I have to 
test again for this bug. Perfect timing, hm?


Jou


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page breaks never get really deleted, bug shows when saving as docx.

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Again a bug-report seems like a good plan.  DocX is apparently not properly 
supported in MS Office and there are differences between the way it is 
implemented in MSO 2007 and MSO 2010.  

This sort of problem is one of the reasons that people here recommend keeping 
an original in Odt format and only save a copy in some other format when you 
need to share the document with someone else that can't or won't install 
LibreOffice or OpenOffice or any of the other office suites or programs that do 
support the OpenDocument Format.  People are quite happy to install all sorts 
of extra programs to read Pdfs but then suddenly object to installing something 
to read Odfs.  This will change as the format is becoming more popular.

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 5/4/12, Joachim Otahal (privat)  wrote:

From: Joachim Otahal (privat) 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Page breaks never get really deleted, bug shows 
when saving as docx.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 20:02

You make a document.
You add page breaks.
You remove page breaks.
You save it (as .odt).
Open it.
The document appears to be correct.

Open the document, save as .docx.
Open the .docx.
All the page breaks which you deleted are back.
You remove the page breaks again.
Save as .docx.
Open the .docx.
All the page breaks which you deleted are back.
Repeat until you lose your mind.

You can also open the docx, correct the page breaks, save as .odt, document 
looks fine. You open again as .docx, the page breaks are back again.

Copy paste into a new document does not fix.

If you open the .docx document in Office 2010 it looks the way it is supposed 
to look, the page breaks are gone.
You save it as docx in Office 2010.
You open it in LO again, and finally the page breaks are gone, you can even 
save it again, and the page breaks STAY gone, as it should have been with LO in 
first place.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page breaks never get really deleted, bug shows when saving as docx.

[Jay Lozier]

Joachim,

On 04/05/2012 03:02 PM, Joachim Otahal (privat) wrote:

You make a document.
You add page breaks.
You remove page breaks.
You save it (as .odt).
Open it.
The document appears to be correct.

Open the document, save as .docx.
Open the .docx.
All the page breaks which you deleted are back.
You remove the page breaks again.
Save as .docx.
Open the .docx.
All the page breaks which you deleted are back.
Repeat until you lose your mind.

You can also open the docx, correct the page breaks, save as .odt, 
document looks fine. You open again as .docx, the page breaks are back 
again.
Did save over the original docx with the revised docx? Saving to odt 
will not automatically update the original docx file; it will be 
unchanged unless you save to it..


Copy paste into a new document does not fix.

If you open the .docx document in Office 2010 it looks the way it is 
supposed to look, the page breaks are gone.

You save it as docx in Office 2010.
You open it in LO again, and finally the page breaks are gone, you can 
even save it again, and the page breaks STAY gone, as it should have 
been with LO in first place.




I did this

1. Create document with manual page breaks
2. Saved documents in odt
3. Deleted page breaks
4. Saved revised document with new name (/name-1/) in odt
5. Saved revised document as docx
6. Closed document
7. Opened odt and docx versions and did have any page breaks.

I am using LO 3.5.1 (LibreOffice 3.5.1.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:102)) 
with Linux Mint 12


What version of LO are you using? And is your OS Windows?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug: missing in new document.docx

[Joachim Otahal (privat)]

Tom Davies schrieb:

Hi :)
It is a good idea to ask the Users List first but it looks like you need to 
post this as a proper bug-report.  Either link ends up with about the same 
result but you'll probably fidn the 1st one easier to work with
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
Thanks for letting people know!
Regards from
Tom :)



I'll submit it.
Thanks for the hint.

Jou

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[libreoffice-users] Page breaks never get really deleted, bug shows when saving as docx.

[Joachim Otahal (privat)]

You make a document.
You add page breaks.
You remove page breaks.
You save it (as .odt).
Open it.
The document appears to be correct.

Open the document, save as .docx.
Open the .docx.
All the page breaks which you deleted are back.
You remove the page breaks again.
Save as .docx.
Open the .docx.
All the page breaks which you deleted are back.
Repeat until you lose your mind.

You can also open the docx, correct the page breaks, save as .odt, 
document looks fine. You open again as .docx, the page breaks are back 
again.


Copy paste into a new document does not fix.

If you open the .docx document in Office 2010 it looks the way it is 
supposed to look, the page breaks are gone.

You save it as docx in Office 2010.
You open it in LO again, and finally the page breaks are gone, you can 
even save it again, and the page breaks STAY gone, as it should have 
been with LO in first place.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug: missing in new document.docx

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
It is a good idea to ask the Users List first but it looks like you need to 
post this as a proper bug-report.  Either link ends up with about the same 
result but you'll probably fidn the 1st one easier to work with
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
Thanks for letting people know!
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 5/4/12, Joachim Otahal (privat)  wrote:

From: Joachim Otahal (privat) 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Bug: missing  
in new document.docx
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 18:50

Bug: missing  in new document(s), save a 
new document as docx, opening in word 2010 has an extra line after each 
paragraph.

Seems to be a bug in LO 3.5.1, in this email I refer to TEST1/TEST2 etc to make 
a distinction between the various documents I did for testing to reproduce:

Steps to reproduce:
New document in LO Writer 3.5.1.
Type a few lines with hitting return at the end.
Save as "office 2007/2010" document TEST1.
Open the document in Office 2010, and an extra empty line is added.
Save the document in Office 2010 as TEST2.
Open in Libreoffice shows the same as office 2010.

Fixing the document in Office 2010: Open TEST3 hit CTRL+A use "Abstand nach dem 
Absatz entfernen" which should be something like "remove space after each 
paragraph" in English, save as TEST3. Open in LO, add extra lines and save as 
TEST4, the extra lines will have the right spacing even when opening in office 
2010 again.
Fixing the document in Libreoffice 3.5.1: Open TEST3 hit CTRL+A, right click, 
paragraph, Intents & Spacing, Below the paragraph, set to 0.0, save as TEST5.

It doesn't matter which you use for fixing, it works in both cases.

Once the document is "fixed" that way you can add extra lines with Libre Office 
and it will correctly use  for each new 
line (see TEST4).

The bug is that LO 3.5.1 doesn't save the spacing in first place for "new 
document.docx", although it is 0.00 for a new document. To make LO save the 
right paragraph spacing you have to change it to 0.1 once (hit OK) and change 
it to 0.0 again, save as TEST6. LO will save it the way it should in first 
place.

Document source difference boils down to:

TEST1.docx\word\document.xml (shorted to the important lines)








1



TEST6.docx (new document, with changes to 0.1, hit OK and then back to 0.0 + 
hit OK)









1






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug: missing in new document.docx

[Joachim Otahal (privat)]

Joachim Otahal (privat) schrieb:


Fixing the document in Office 2010: Open TEST3 hit CTRL+A use "Abstand 
nach dem Absatz entfernen" which should be something like "remove 
space after each paragraph" in English, save as TEST3. Open in LO, add 
extra lines and save as TEST4, the extra lines will have the right 
spacing even when opening in office 2010 again.
Fixing the document in Libreoffice 3.5.1: Open TEST3 hit CTRL+A, right 
click, paragraph, Intents & Spacing, Below the paragraph, set to 0.0, 
save as TEST5.


Typo in this part, it should read "Open TEST2" instead of "Open TEST3" 
in both cases.


Jou

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[libreoffice-users] Bug: missing in new document.docx

[Joachim Otahal (privat)]

Bug: missing  in new document(s), 
save a new document as docx, opening in word 2010 has an extra line 
after each paragraph.


Seems to be a bug in LO 3.5.1, in this email I refer to TEST1/TEST2 etc 
to make a distinction between the various documents I did for testing to 
reproduce:


Steps to reproduce:
New document in LO Writer 3.5.1.
Type a few lines with hitting return at the end.
Save as "office 2007/2010" document TEST1.
Open the document in Office 2010, and an extra empty line is added.
Save the document in Office 2010 as TEST2.
Open in Libreoffice shows the same as office 2010.

Fixing the document in Office 2010: Open TEST3 hit CTRL+A use "Abstand 
nach dem Absatz entfernen" which should be something like "remove space 
after each paragraph" in English, save as TEST3. Open in LO, add extra 
lines and save as TEST4, the extra lines will have the right spacing 
even when opening in office 2010 again.
Fixing the document in Libreoffice 3.5.1: Open TEST3 hit CTRL+A, right 
click, paragraph, Intents & Spacing, Below the paragraph, set to 0.0, 
save as TEST5.


It doesn't matter which you use for fixing, it works in both cases.

Once the document is "fixed" that way you can add extra lines with Libre 
Office and it will correctly use  
for each new line (see TEST4).


The bug is that LO 3.5.1 doesn't save the spacing in first place for 
"new document.docx", although it is 0.00 for a new document. To make LO 
save the right paragraph spacing you have to change it to 0.1 once (hit 
OK) and change it to 0.0 again, save as TEST6. LO will save it the way 
it should in first place.


Document source difference boils down to:

TEST1.docx\word\document.xml (shorted to the important lines)








1



TEST6.docx (new document, with changes to 0.1, hit OK and then back to 
0.0 + hit OK)










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Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access

[Dan Lewis]

 What difference does it make whether Oracle is supported or not?
The choice belongs to each individual as to what back end they want to
use and why when LO is used as the front end. What matters most is
whether a program works well or not.

--Dan

On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 12:52 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> MariaDb could presumably be used instead of MySql or is it important to 
> support Oracle?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Dan Lewis  wrote:
> 
> From: Dan Lewis 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 12:33
> 
> On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 09:13 +0100, Tony Sumner wrote:
> > On Apr 05, 2012, Mark wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > One method is to find a decent back end such as MySQL and move
> > >   your table across, while temporarily maintaining your front end in
> > >   Access. MySQL has a migration assistant which may help here.
> > 
> > I have developed a scheme for migrating an Access database to MySQL.
> > Briefly
> >   1. mdb-export generates a CSV file
> >   2. run a program to convert this into a shell script consisting of
> > a set of 'insert into' statements
> >   3. run this in MySQL
> > There are some small details on the way. I can post the script and program
> > if you think it would be helpful
> > 
> > Tony
> 
>  MySQL uses the command LOAD DATA to insert data from a text file.
> It must be tab deliminated and have \n for each null value. Can this be
> done with what you are describing?
> 
> --Dan
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access

[jomali]

Not if you're using a Mac.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> MariaDb could presumably be used instead of MySql or is it important to
> support Oracle?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Dan Lewis  wrote:
>
> From: Dan Lewis 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 12:33
>
> On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 09:13 +0100, Tony Sumner wrote:
> > On Apr 05, 2012, Mark wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > One method is to find a decent back end such as MySQL and move
> > >   your table across, while temporarily maintaining your front end
> in
> > >   Access. MySQL has a migration assistant which may help here.
> >
> > I have developed a scheme for migrating an Access database to MySQL.
> > Briefly
> >   1. mdb-export generates a CSV file
> >   2. run a program to convert this into a shell script consisting of
> > a set of 'insert into' statements
> >   3. run this in MySQL
> > There are some small details on the way. I can post the script and
> program
> > if you think it would be helpful
> >
> > Tony
>
>  MySQL uses the command LOAD DATA to insert data from a text file.
> It must be tab deliminated and have \n for each null value. Can this be
> done with what you are describing?
>
> --Dan
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs

[webmaster-Kracked_P_P]

When things like that happen, I Export to PDF and then use the default 
PDF viewer to print the document.


I use 3.4.5 with Ubuntu 64-bit.

Do you have the Printer Administration listed in you menu of LO module 
list?  I find that there are a lot more options listed there for my 
printers, than in the print menus.


Each printer I have, HP PSC-1410 inkjet, Epson Artisan 810 inkjet, HP 
Color Laserjet 2600n, and the HP Laserjet 2300dn, seem to have different 
print options than I get with printing via the "default Viewer" using 
the Export to PDF document instead of the printing via Writer directly.


LO will not get my Epson Artisan 810 inkjet printer to duplex, but it 
will for my b/w HP 2300 workgroup printer.  I have not used the HP 
2300dn for even a week, since it came on Monday, so I have not tested 
all the differences, BUT it really seems that LO does not work with all 
the printer's options like it should.


Then there is the fact that if you print a document with the option of 
more than 1 copies, LO prints out each copy as its own job, while the 
"default Viewer" will print the copies as copies and not as separate 
jobs.  LO takes 20-30 seconds for each job to process on the printer, 
while the PDF processes one job and each copy comes out as soon as the 
previous one lands in the output tray.




On 04/05/2012 09:59 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:

I wonder if I could revisit this issue again.


I have been experimenting a bit more and
LibreOffice doesn't show all the options
the printer has available.


For example:- ( With LO 3.5.n and openSuse 12.1)
In the system printer dialog my Ricoh MPC 5000
has 4 trays and a bypass. In LO it only show the 4 trays


Also it has paper types of Thick, Thick2 and Thick3 for
different weights of paper. The LO dialog only has Thick
which is a bit of a problem as some types of iron on
paper we use has to go through the printer at Thick 2 or
Thick 3


If I use something like Gimp or Chrome and print a page it shows all
the options ( 21 types of paper and 5 trays  ) LO only shows
13 types of paper and 4 trays.


Where is LO getting it's information from and why is it wrong
on some printers? ( our old HP 4250's are correct but they are
pretty simple souls at the best of times ) Also, is there some
way to tell LO to get it's information from the system?


Many thanks


Mal





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[libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs

[Malcolm Moore]

I wonder if I could revisit this issue again.


I have been experimenting a bit more and 
LibreOffice doesn't show all the options 
the printer has available.


For example:- ( With LO 3.5.n and openSuse 12.1)
In the system printer dialog my Ricoh MPC 5000
has 4 trays and a bypass. In LO it only show the 4 trays


Also it has paper types of Thick, Thick2 and Thick3 for 
different weights of paper. The LO dialog only has Thick
which is a bit of a problem as some types of iron on 
paper we use has to go through the printer at Thick 2 or
Thick 3


If I use something like Gimp or Chrome and print a page it shows all
the options ( 21 types of paper and 5 trays  ) LO only shows
13 types of paper and 4 trays.


Where is LO getting it's information from and why is it wrong
on some printers? ( our old HP 4250's are correct but they are
pretty simple souls at the best of times ) Also, is there some
way to tell LO to get it's information from the system?


Many thanks


Mal


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[libreoffice-users] Re: links as filed on a Database (BASE)

[Andreas Säger]

Am 05.04.2012 11:52, Haruka Akiko wrote:

The links may point both to phisical places in my hardisk and to places
in the web (say web sites or documents stored in a web space). It'd seem
simple, but I have just little knowledge of Base and I'm wondering if,
in a report of data extracted from this hypothetical database, I 'll be
able to obtain clickable links...What type of data is the best for this
kind of field? I hope my problem is clear. Anyway Thank you
Akiko




Hi,
There are no hyperlink controls for input forms nor reports.
You can link database content to spreadsheet cells. This is very similar 
to a report. Then you can attach a calculated field with HYPERLINK 
formulas to that import range.


[Tutorial] Using registered datasources in Calc:

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=18511


Register the DB, drag your query or table into a sheet, call 
Data>Define...button "More Options". Set the additional properties about 
formatting and insertion of cells.
Add your formatting, hyperlinks, charts and use Data>Refresh to update 
the report.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access

[Jay Lozier]

On 04/05/2012 07:33 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 09:13 +0100, Tony Sumner wrote:

On Apr 05, 2012, Mark wrote:


One method is to find a decent back end such as MySQL and move
   your table across, while temporarily maintaining your front end in
   Access. MySQL has a migration assistant which may help here.

I have developed a scheme for migrating an Access database to MySQL.
Briefly
   1. mdb-export generates a CSV file
   2. run a program to convert this into a shell script consisting of
 a set of 'insert into' statements
   3. run this in MySQL
There are some small details on the way. I can post the script and program
if you think it would be helpful

Tony

  MySQL uses the command LOAD DATA to insert data from a text file.
It must be tab deliminated and have \n for each null value. Can this be
done with what you are describing?
If you check the MySQL documentation you can specify the field separator 
using FIELD TERMINATED BY ';' for example for a ; separator.


If the file is on your computer the command is LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE 
'filename'.


See http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/load-data.html for more 
details about LOAD DATA. and the various options.





--Dan





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Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
MariaDb could presumably be used instead of MySql or is it important to support 
Oracle?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 5/4/12, Dan Lewis  wrote:

From: Dan Lewis 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 12:33

On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 09:13 +0100, Tony Sumner wrote:
> On Apr 05, 2012, Mark wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > One method is to find a decent back end such as MySQL and move
> >       your table across, while temporarily maintaining your front end in
> >       Access. MySQL has a migration assistant which may help here.
> 
> I have developed a scheme for migrating an Access database to MySQL.
> Briefly
>   1. mdb-export generates a CSV file
>   2. run a program to convert this into a shell script consisting of
>         a set of 'insert into' statements
>   3. run this in MySQL
> There are some small details on the way. I can post the script and program
> if you think it would be helpful
> 
> Tony

     MySQL uses the command LOAD DATA to insert data from a text file.
It must be tab deliminated and have \n for each null value. Can this be
done with what you are describing?

--Dan


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Fw: Re: [libreoffice-users] Figure Numbering disrupted in Master Document (LO 3.5)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
There 'must' be a good reason why the main downloads page is forcing people 
into using the 'newer' branch that is still rife with problems (as seen from 
the numbers and types of problems being raised on the Users List).  I doubt it 
is deliberately aiming to dissuade people from continuing to use LibreOffice 
even though that seems to be the result.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 5/4/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P  wrote:
Date: Thursday, 5 April, 2012, 10:57


WE NEED THIS STRESSED on the web site.

The 3.5.x line is still the "cutting edge" version and is not ready for the 
needs of business user, and the personal user that must have as few issues as 
possible.

If we had this on the web site on the page where it "recommends" 3.5.x instead 
of the 3.4.x line for all things, we will get more people who need LO working 
with virtually no issues.  Right now, this person would not have updated to 
3.5.x for his "very important work" without dealing with any issues involved 
with the first few version of a new line.  If there was a statement that 3.4.x 
"recommended for the business user" and 3.5.x "recommended for the personal 
user on the cutting edge",  may be people who need a very stable version of LO 
will not have issues like this person did.

I know we must have people using the 3.5.x line and reporting bugs and issues, 
but do we really want to hear from business users that downloaded the 3.5.x 
"recommended" line and then they or their people starting having a lot of "work 
stoppage" issues?  LO will get a bad "rep" fast that way.

I wish this person well with his dissertation, but if there was a statement 
next to the 3.4.x and 3.5.x lines telling people which is best for their needs, 
we should/would not see people with "must not fail" usage needs for their 
office suite have "work stoppage" issues like this one.

For a dissertation, I would not recommend the 3.5.x line, YET.  The same should 
go for any business user, or even students, that need to have the most stable 
version of LO working for them.

Remember, people here stated that our users used the 3.3.x line till 3.4.x went 
to 3.4.3 or 3.4.4.  Why are we recommending 3.5.0, or 3.5.1 for every user 
now?  That is what the download page is doing.  Sure there are some new and 
better features for 3.5.x, but we do not want to get known for pushing a 
version of LO to the business user that is not as stable as it needs to be for 
their use.

For the people I deal with locally, including all of the people I hand out DVDs 
to, I have not recommended them to go to 3.5.x, yet.  I do not want "my" 
business users to update from 3.4.x to 3.5.x till it is ready.  I do not want 
them to come back on me about why they are now having issues that 3.4.x did 
not.  I did not start handing out 3.4.x DVDs to my business users till it was 
at 3.4.3.


On 04/05/2012 03:42 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Yes, stick with the 3.4.x version that is working.  Perhaps post a bug-report 
> if you have time.  Both the links give much the same end result.  You might 
> find the 2nd link easier to use
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
> Good luck and regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> --- On Wed, 4/4/12, e-letter  wrote:
> 
> From: e-letter
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Figure Numbering disrupted in Master 
> Document (LO 3.5)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Wednesday, 4 April, 2012, 8:54
> 
> On 27/03/2012, nik  wrote:
>> Dear all, I'm writing a long dissertation and therefore I'm using a master
>> document. In LB3.4 the master document was working fine, with 3.5 instead
>> the figure numbering went crazy - the figure fields showed "no sources
>> found" or something similar. I rolled back to 3.4 and everything is ok at
>> the moment. I was wondering if this is a bug of 3.5. Any help is much
>> appreciated.
>> 
> For something as important as a dissertation document, you would be
> crazy to use new, untested, latest software versions such as LO35.
> Always read the bug reports, QA test results etc. before.
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access

[Dan Lewis]

On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 09:13 +0100, Tony Sumner wrote:
> On Apr 05, 2012, Mark wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > One method is to find a decent back end such as MySQL and move
> >   your table across, while temporarily maintaining your front end in
> >   Access. MySQL has a migration assistant which may help here.
> 
> I have developed a scheme for migrating an Access database to MySQL.
> Briefly
>   1. mdb-export generates a CSV file
>   2. run a program to convert this into a shell script consisting of
> a set of 'insert into' statements
>   3. run this in MySQL
> There are some small details on the way. I can post the script and program
> if you think it would be helpful
> 
> Tony

 MySQL uses the command LOAD DATA to insert data from a text file.
It must be tab deliminated and have \n for each null value. Can this be
done with what you are describing?

--Dan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] CAB error on new version of LibreOffice

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I think it might be good to post a bug-report about this issue.  Either link is 
good.  The 2nd link is supposedly easier but you might find the 1st link better
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

Also could you try the 32bit version of LibreOffice?  Tbh i didn't know there 
was a 64bit version.
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Tue, 3/4/12, Andrew Brown  wrote:

From: Andrew Brown 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] CAB error on new version of LibreOffice
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 3 April, 2012, 16:03

Hi There

I've used LibreOffice succesfully now for the last two years (I think), ever 
since I found out OpenOffice was being managed and taken over by Oracle. I also 
migrated to it under Windows due to it becoming the standard in Ubuntu Linux, 
may main O/S of choice.

No problems to date until today, I downloaded the latest version for my 
language along with the ZA Help pack - LibO_3.5.1_Win_x86_install_multi for 
Windows 7 64bit. I start the installation process as normal, and select and 
deselect the features I want and don't want, and 1/3 of the install in, I get a 
failed .CAB error, see supplied screen grabs. I've stopped my malware, I 
checked and cleaned my system and I've downloaded the file three times, one of 
the downloads done at a friends house an hour away from my home this morning. 
All with the same results, also my friend's system produces the same resulting 
errors upon attempting an install, so I think there is a damaged file on the 
servers.

If I "Abort" the programs rolls back and shuts down, "Retry" just ends up 
coming back to the error screen, and if "Ignore" then another screen appears, 
as below with an error code. I would appreciate it if you could look at this.







Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Figure Numbering disrupted in Master Document (LO 3.5)

[webmaster-Kracked_P_P]

WE NEED THIS STRESSED on the web site.

The 3.5.x line is still the "cutting edge" version and is not ready for 
the needs of business user, and the personal user that must have as few 
issues as possible.


If we had this on the web site on the page where it "recommends" 3.5.x 
instead of the 3.4.x line for all things, we will get more people who 
need LO working with virtually no issues.  Right now, this person would 
not have updated to 3.5.x for his "very important work" without dealing 
with any issues involved with the first few version of a new line.  If 
there was a statement that 3.4.x "recommended for the business user" and 
3.5.x "recommended for the personal user on the cutting edge",  may be 
people who need a very stable version of LO will not have issues like 
this person did.


I know we must have people using the 3.5.x line and reporting bugs and 
issues, but do we really want to hear from business users that 
downloaded the 3.5.x "recommended" line and then they or their people 
starting having a lot of "work stoppage" issues?  LO will get a bad 
"rep" fast that way.


I wish this person well with his dissertation, but if there was a 
statement next to the 3.4.x and 3.5.x lines telling people which is best 
for their needs, we should/would not see people with "must not fail" 
usage needs for their office suite have "work stoppage" issues like this 
one.


For a dissertation, I would not recommend the 3.5.x line, YET.  The same 
should go for any business user, or even students, that need to have the 
most stable version of LO working for them.


Remember, people here stated that our user use the 3.3.x line till 3.4.x 
went to 3.4.3 or 3.4.4.  Why are we recommending 3.5.0, or 3.5.1 for 
every user now?  That is what the download page is doing.  Sure there 
are some new and better features for 3.5.x, but we do not want to get 
known for pushing a version of LO to the business user that is not as 
stable as it needs to be for their use.


For the people I deal with locally, including all of the people I hand 
out DVDs to, I have not recommended them to go to 3.5.x, yet.  I do not 
want "my" business users to update from 3.4.x to 3.5.x till it is 
ready.  I do not want them to come back on me about why they are now 
having issues that 3.4.x did not.  I did not start handing out 3.4.x 
DVDs to my business users till it was at 3.4.3.



On 04/05/2012 03:42 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Yes, stick with the 3.4.x version that is working.  Perhaps post a bug-report 
if you have time.  Both the links give much the same end result.  You might 
find the 2nd link easier to use
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 4/4/12, e-letter  wrote:

From: e-letter
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Figure Numbering disrupted in Master Document 
(LO 3.5)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 4 April, 2012, 8:54

On 27/03/2012, nik  wrote:

Dear all, I'm writing a long dissertation and therefore I'm using a master
document. In LB3.4 the master document was working fine, with 3.5 instead
the figure numbering went crazy - the figure fields showed "no sources
found" or something similar. I rolled back to 3.4 and everything is ok at
the moment. I was wondering if this is a bug of 3.5. Any help is much
appreciated.


For something as important as a dissertation document, you would be
crazy to use new, untested, latest software versions such as LO35.
Always read the bug reports, QA test results etc. before.




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[libreoffice-users] links as filed on a Database (BASE)

[Haruka Akiko]

Hallo all,
I need to create a very simple database that would contain a list of
links tied to a set of ids.
For example for the item of id 20 and name "name" I have to insert ( and
find in in subesequent research) XX links.
The links may point both to phisical places in my hardisk and to places
in the web (say web sites or documents stored in a web space). It'd seem
simple, but I have just little knowledge of Base and I'm wondering if,
in a report of data extracted from this hypothetical database, I 'll be
able to obtain clickable links...What type of data is the best for this
kind of field? I hope my problem is clear. Anyway Thank you
Akiko


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Re: [libreoffice-users] libre office and microsoft office access

[Tony Sumner]

On Apr 05, 2012, Mark wrote:
> 
> 
> One method is to find a decent back end such as MySQL and move
>   your table across, while temporarily maintaining your front end in
>   Access. MySQL has a migration assistant which may help here.

I have developed a scheme for migrating an Access database to MySQL.
Briefly
  1. mdb-export generates a CSV file
  2. run a program to convert this into a shell script consisting of
a set of 'insert into' statements
  3. run this in MySQL
There are some small details on the way. I can post the script and program
if you think it would be helpful

Tony

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Figure Numbering disrupted in Master Document (LO 3.5)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Yes, stick with the 3.4.x version that is working.  Perhaps post a bug-report 
if you have time.  Both the links give much the same end result.  You might 
find the 2nd link easier to use
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 4/4/12, e-letter  wrote:

From: e-letter 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Figure Numbering disrupted in Master Document 
(LO 3.5)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 4 April, 2012, 8:54

On 27/03/2012, nik  wrote:
> Dear all, I'm writing a long dissertation and therefore I'm using a master
> document. In LB3.4 the master document was working fine, with 3.5 instead
> the figure numbering went crazy - the figure fields showed "no sources
> found" or something similar. I rolled back to 3.4 and everything is ok at
> the moment. I was wondering if this is a bug of 3.5. Any help is much
> appreciated.
>

For something as important as a dissertation document, you would be
crazy to use new, untested, latest software versions such as LO35.
Always read the bug reports, QA test results etc. before.

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