Re: [libreoffice-users] Read-only fields

2012-06-26 Thread Mark McDougall
On 26/06/2012 2:59 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

 If might try editing the odt file instead of the doc file.

I am editing the odt. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] latest java update has broken my install ofLibre Office.

2012-06-26 Thread Jude DaShiell
So, I'm not the only one that got eaten by the java monster.  
Specifically I tried enabling accessibility too and the archives of this 
list have a few messages to that effect as well.  I think the proper 
term for that is vindication.

On Tue, 26 Jun 2012, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 I think this is the way forwards.  We used to keep older versions of java 
 back in the LO 3.3.x line because any version of java more recent than about 
 4 versions old seemed to break LO.  We stopped doing that because various 
 users complained that older java meant more vulnerable and there were also 
 some concerns about copyright.  If anyone is able to get the right version of 
 6_31 to you then let us know but just don't tell us who.
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 --- On Tue, 26/6/12, Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 From: Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] latest java update has broken my install 
 ofLibre Office.
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 4:20
 
 Thank you very much for this, this has at least fixed it so L.O. will at 
 least start up again so that is half the battle.  I am still going to have to 
 install java 631 once I actually find it because L.O. definitely does not 
 like this java 7 update.  If I try to enable accessibility it says that this 
 JRE is defective.  Fortunately I may have the old installer laying around 
 somewhere.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 Tom
 
 -Original Message- From: Bj?rn K Nilssen
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:52 AM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] latest java update has broken my install 
 ofLibre Office.
 
 P? Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:24:03 +0200, skrev Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net:
 
  Hi all.
  Well the subject pretty much says it, I got a notification there was an 
  update to Java, I believe it is java 7 update five.  Once I did the update 
  my install
  of Libre Office no longer works.  As soon as I try to start the program  I 
  get the standard windows 7 message about a problem has caused libre office 
  to stop working,  Windows will close
  the program, blah blah blah.  I have tried repairing the install and  when 
  that did not do anything I went so far as to remove the whole  install and 
  re-
  install Libre Office.  Still no joy.
  I am not sure if this is an accessibility problem or not, I do know that 
  the java update did totally screw my install of access bridge as well  and I
  had to re-install that too.  This is the first time I?ve ever had a java 
  update screw things up this way.
  Needless to say I am not a happy camper, I depend on this program to do 
  paperwork for work here at home.  Has anyone else had this happen with this 
  java update?  I am
  running the 32-bit version of windows 7.  I have posted this to the 
  accessibility list too but am posting it here in case it is not related to 
  the
  accessibility settings and is a general problem.
  
  One user on the accessibility list suggested that I try putting the java 
  631 version back on the system and see if that solves the problem.  I know 
  the java folks don?t recommend you do things like this but I?m frankly 
  willing to if it will get this fixed for now.  If anyone has any other 
  ideas on how to fix this or if you need more info just let me know.
  Thanks in advance.
 
 I had the same problem here, running jre 7 on XP and installing the newest
 LibreOffice.
 The problem was fixed by removing javasettings_Windows_x86.xml (I actually
 just renamed it to javasettings_Windows_x86.xm0) and then when I started
 LibreOffice a new and correct version was created. The old xml file
 contained info about the jre6, which was not there any longer.
 Apparently LO 3.5.4.2 didn't detect the correct Java version when
 upgrading from LO 3.4.xx.
 That xml file was located inside \LibreOffice\3\user\config\ inside the
 user\AppData folder
 
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[SOLVED] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.4.2/Writer] CTRL-P shortcut freezes LiBo V 3_5_4_2

2012-06-26 Thread henri

On 25/06/2012 23:34, Andreas Säger wrote:
Because [Esc] takes you back to the edit window, I think that the print dialog 
is active but its position is out of visible bounds.
Alt+Space_Key might open the window-menu for the active but hidden dialog. 
There you might find some way to move it by means of arrow keys. I don't use 
Windows right now, so I can not test.






On 26/06/2012 00:58, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think on Windows and on GnuLinux yiou can right-clcik on it's button (if it has one) in the 
taskbar/panel (= that strip along the bottom of the screen in Xp that has the Start button 
and the clock on it).  If you right-click on the button there you get a choice to Move.  
Don't press any key or button just move the mouse back into the screen.  I found it almost impossible 
not to left-click to drag.

It might be easier to change the resolution of the montior to something really 
tiny and unreadable.  That might make it easier to drag the window into the 
right area and then reset your resolution. ;)
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)



Am I red-faced!
You are totally right about the invisible PRINT dialog: because I have 2 
monitors (the 2nd one not being on all the time) the PRINT dialog was indeed 
opening in the 2nd monitor which was not turned on at the time. I have now 
placed the dialog on the main monitor.
So Thank you ,Andreas, and  Tom , very much for pointing out that possibility 
(and how to resolve it) which turned out to be right and  for taking the time to 
reply.Now I shall just write a 100 times : I will always check my second monitor

Cheers
Henri







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[libreoffice-users] Impress: Text animation in a master slide

2012-06-26 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
I want to set a text animation in the master slide. With this animation I want 
all slides based on
this master slide to show text by the first outline level.

Does someone know how to do this? (Searching the manual did not reveal required 
information.)

I am using LO 3.5.4.2

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.4.2/Writer] CTRL-P shortcut freezes LiBo V 3_5_4_2

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Lol, i am sure we have all done similar things.  I am just impressed that 
Andreas spots these things despite also being good with complicated answers.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Tue, 26/6/12, henri 4321henri1...@orange.fr wrote:

snip /

Am I red-faced!
You are totally right about the invisible PRINT dialog: because I have 2 
monitors (the 2nd one not being on all the time) the PRINT dialog was indeed 
opening in the 2nd monitor which was not turned on at the time. I have now 
placed the dialog on the main monitor.
So Thank you ,Andreas, and  Tom , very much for pointing out that possibility 
(and how to resolve it) which turned out to be right and  for taking the time 
to reply.Now I shall just write a 100 times : I will always check my second 
monitor
Cheers
Henri







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Read-only fields

2012-06-26 Thread Felmon Davis

On Tue, 26 Jun 2012, Mark McDougall wrote:


On 26/06/2012 2:59 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:


If might try editing the odt file instead of the doc file.


I am editing the odt. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Regards,





I ran across this the other day but with OpenOffice. assuming the same 
fix, you have to go to the 'section' under 'format' and turn off 
'write protection' and maybe turn on 'editable in read-only document'.


sorry if this doesn't apply to LO but hope this might yield a clue.

(I am having trouble installing LO and cannot afford too much foolin' 
around with the system until I get back from abroad.)


F.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [SOLVED] Re: Re: [3.5.4.2/Writer] CTRL-P shortcut freezes LiBo V 3_5_4_2

2012-06-26 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 26.06.2012 10:21, henri wrote:

.Now I shall just write a 100 times : I will always check my second
monitor


Copy that sentence with a line break.
Paste into some text editor which can show line numbers and hold Ctrl+V 
until line 100 is reached.



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[libreoffice-users] .odt - default package being Okular not LO

2012-06-26 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


A little while back, during one of the installs of LO on my Ubuntu 10.04 
system, for some reason the .odt file extension/mime was transfered to 
Okular.  I do not remember when this happened, but it must have been 
when I removed LO from my system to install the next line.


The wonder I have is why .odt did not go back to using LO as its default 
package.


Got any ideas why that would happen?  Why all the other ODF extension 
would default to LO and .odt staying with Ukular?


I have changed this so LO is the default, but why did LO not make .odt 
one if its extensions/mimes?


Actually, I think it happened when I went to 3.5.4 from 3.4.6. I do not 
remember it being that way before that, but my memory is a little off 
right now.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt - default package being Okular not LO

2012-06-26 Thread Gabriel Risterucci
File association on Linux are usually managed by the desktop environment,
and as usual settings are first taken from individual user configuration,
then from system wide default.
The package installation probably set the system wide default, but packages
can't change individual user settings.
If okular took default when lo was removed, it's in user settings, which
can't be overriden by packages...
Le 26 juin 2012 16:14, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
a écrit :


 A little while back, during one of the installs of LO on my Ubuntu 10.04
 system, for some reason the .odt file extension/mime was transfered to
 Okular.  I do not remember when this happened, but it must have been when I
 removed LO from my system to install the next line.

 The wonder I have is why .odt did not go back to using LO as its default
 package.

 Got any ideas why that would happen?  Why all the other ODF extension
 would default to LO and .odt staying with Ukular?

 I have changed this so LO is the default, but why did LO not make .odt one
 if its extensions/mimes?

 Actually, I think it happened when I went to 3.5.4 from 3.4.6. I do not
 remember it being that way before that, but my memory is a little off right
 now.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt - default package being Okular not LO

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
On Windows you could fix this by trying to reinstall LO.  Choose the repair 
option and somewhere you get the install page that lets you select LO to be the 
default app that opens the appropriate file-types.  At a guess it's possibly 
the same in GnuLinux but if you have solved it already it's all good :)
Regards from
Tom :)  


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From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] .odt - default package being Okular not LO
To: LibreO - Users Global users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 15:13


A little while back, during one of the installs of LO on my Ubuntu 10.04 
system, for some reason the .odt file extension/mime was transfered to Okular.  
I do not remember when this happened, but it must have been when I removed LO 
from my system to install the next line.

The wonder I have is why .odt did not go back to using LO as its default 
package.

Got any ideas why that would happen?  Why all the other ODF extension would 
default to LO and .odt staying with Ukular?

I have changed this so LO is the default, but why did LO not make .odt one if 
its extensions/mimes?

Actually, I think it happened when I went to 3.5.4 from 3.4.6. I do not 
remember it being that way before that, but my memory is a little off right now.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [SOLVED] Re: Re: [3.5.4.2/Writer] CTRL-P shortcut freezes LiBo V 3_5_4_2

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
If only they had had this on blackboards a few decades ago [sighs]
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Tue, 26/6/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [SOLVED] Re: Re: [3.5.4.2/Writer] CTRL-P 
shortcut freezes LiBo V 3_5_4_2
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 13:32

Am 26.06.2012 10:21, henri wrote:
 .Now I shall just write a 100 times : I will always check my second
 monitor

Copy that sentence with a line break.
Paste into some text editor which can show line numbers and hold Ctrl+V until 
line 100 is reached.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] .odt - default package being Okular not LO

2012-06-26 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


Tom, I have changed the default package back to LO, but my wonder is why 
.odt did not go to LO when it what changed.


Okular does not read them properly at all, the only time I allowed it to 
open a .odt file, or at least that was my memory.


It is just weird that LO did not take all of its mimes associations 
back.  It tends to be that the newly installed package who uses the 
mime/extension get it over the one that had it before.  Then you have to 
change the properties of the extensions to give it back to the package 
of your choice. It seems to be that way with the audio/video packages I 
install on Ubuntu, so why not .odt going to LO when it was installed?  I 
think that Okular was installed by Ubuntu and not me.  I do not need 
that package so I would not have installed it.


By the way, as an install option for LO, I do like the part where I am 
asked if LO was going to be for just me or any user on the computer.  
I do not know if it is part of the OS install process, but I have seen 
it with the installation of extensions as well. For a multi-user 
computer, that is an interesting option.



On 06/26/2012 10:44 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
On Windows you could fix this by trying to reinstall LO.  Choose the repair option 
and somewhere you get the install page that lets you select LO to be the default 
app that opens the appropriate file-types.  At a guess it's possibly the same in 
GnuLinux but if you have solved it already it's all good :)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 26/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] .odt - default package being Okular not LO
To: LibreO - Users Global users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 15:13


A little while back, during one of the installs of LO on my Ubuntu 10.04 
system, for some reason the .odt file extension/mime was transfered to Okular.  
I do not remember when this happened, but it must have been when I removed LO 
from my system to install the next line.

The wonder I have is why .odt did not go back to using LO as its default 
package.

Got any ideas why that would happen?  Why all the other ODF extension would 
default to LO and .odt staying with Ukular?

I have changed this so LO is the default, but why did LO not make .odt one if 
its extensions/mimes?

Actually, I think it happened when I went to 3.5.4 from 3.4.6. I do not 
remember it being that way before that, but my memory is a little off right now.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: latest java update has broken my install of Libre Office.

2012-06-26 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

Java based programs on a Windows OS are frustratingly unstable when multiple
Java Runtime Environments are present because of the way program
configurations are pointed to the version of Java to call--registry entries,
user environment variables, system environment variables.  

For stability, run with just one JRE--but don't allow it to update until
convenient for you to monitor changes.

You could jump in and immediately uninstall all things Java based (NVDA,
Dolphin, JAB)  and LibreOffice--and clean the registry. And then reinstall
everything so configuration files are correct.

But one simple option for additional troubleshooting  would be to create a
new user account on the computer. Login to it--and test your Java
components. If JAB based utilities run, then check them in LibreOffice.  And
if while using the new account, JAB based programs fail (and they may),  you
probably will need to uninstall and reinstall.   But if all is good for the
new user account, the problem *is* configuration issue for you normal
account, and you will need to dig into your Windows user profile.


An uninstall, reinstall will fix either case but is tedious and error prone
-- so use an uninstaller ( I prefer the VSRevo products with moderate
registry clean-up, the free version is fine for 32-bit, but would need the
Pro for 64-bit--has a modest license fee to use beyond trial period -- find
them here:

freeware 32-bit only  --
http://www.revouninstaller.com/start_freeware_download.html
pro version 32/64 -bit trial  --
http://www.revouninstaller.com/download-professional-version.php )
 
Then reload these Windows programs in order:
JRE 1.7u5 (this would now be the ONLY Java runtime on the system, with fresh
configuration laid down)
Java Access Bridge (use Jamal Mazrui's JWin installer from
http://empowermentzone.com/JWin.htm )
Dolphin or NVDA (or both) (test that they're working)
LibreOffice 3.5.4  (select the JRE, and activate  Accessibility -- assistive
technology tools)

Obviously once Dolphin or NVDA come off you are likely to need some sighted
assistance with the interface, but it should be brief and by running through
the clean up this way--you will be more likely to have a stable and fully
functioning system as an outcome.

Stuart

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: latest java update has broken my install of Libre Office.

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Randall

Hi Stuart, thanks for this info this gives me some options to look at.

I do not routinely have sighted assistance around to do this kind of thing 
so completely losing my screen reader is not really an option at this point 
however I can definitely look into some of these things later on, for 
instance I will set up a test account and see how it goes probably later on 
today when I get home from work.


Thanks.

Tom

-Original Message- 
From: V Stuart Foote

Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:09 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: latest java update has broken my install of 
Libre Office.


Tom,

Java based programs on a Windows OS are frustratingly unstable when multiple
Java Runtime Environments are present because of the way program
configurations are pointed to the version of Java to call--registry entries,
user environment variables, system environment variables.

For stability, run with just one JRE--but don't allow it to update until
convenient for you to monitor changes.

You could jump in and immediately uninstall all things Java based (NVDA,
Dolphin, JAB)  and LibreOffice--and clean the registry. And then reinstall
everything so configuration files are correct.

But one simple option for additional troubleshooting  would be to create a
new user account on the computer. Login to it--and test your Java
components. If JAB based utilities run, then check them in LibreOffice.  And
if while using the new account, JAB based programs fail (and they may),  you
probably will need to uninstall and reinstall.   But if all is good for the
new user account, the problem *is* configuration issue for you normal
account, and you will need to dig into your Windows user profile.


An uninstall, reinstall will fix either case but is tedious and error prone
-- so use an uninstaller ( I prefer the VSRevo products with moderate
registry clean-up, the free version is fine for 32-bit, but would need the
Pro for 64-bit--has a modest license fee to use beyond trial period -- find
them here:

freeware 32-bit only  --
http://www.revouninstaller.com/start_freeware_download.html
pro version 32/64 -bit trial  --
http://www.revouninstaller.com/download-professional-version.php )

Then reload these Windows programs in order:
JRE 1.7u5 (this would now be the ONLY Java runtime on the system, with fresh
configuration laid down)
Java Access Bridge (use Jamal Mazrui's JWin installer from
http://empowermentzone.com/JWin.htm )
Dolphin or NVDA (or both) (test that they're working)
LibreOffice 3.5.4  (select the JRE, and activate  Accessibility -- assistive
technology tools)

Obviously once Dolphin or NVDA come off you are likely to need some sighted
assistance with the interface, but it should be brief and by running through
the clean up this way--you will be more likely to have a stable and fully
functioning system as an outcome.

Stuart

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [SOLVED] Re: Re: [3.5.4.2/Writer] CTRL-P shortcut freezes LiBo V 3_5_4_2

2012-06-26 Thread henri

I agree LOL
Henri


On 26/06/2012 16:47, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
+1
If only they had had this on blackboards a few decades ago [sighs]
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [SOLVED] Re: Re: [3.5.4.2/Writer] CTRL-P 
shortcut freezes LiBo V 3_5_4_2
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 13:32

Am 26.06.2012 10:21, henri wrote:

.Now I shall just write a 100 times : I will always check my second
monitor

Copy that sentence with a line break.
Paste into some text editor which can show line numbers and hold Ctrl+V until 
line 100 is reached.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice

2012-06-26 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


Version 5 of the 3.5.4 NA-DVD is online at

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

It just appeared today on that page, along with my version 1 ISO file.

It is 4 GB in size, where version 1 was a little larger at 4.1 GB.

With the updates and the edits, I was able to cut it down just a bit.



On 06/25/2012 06:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


Any day now it will show up here, hopefully, instead of version #1.  
All of the updates for version 5 are online at the online version of 
the DVD.  Mostly it has updated extras like; documentation, updated 
foreign language spell checkers, etc..


http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

I wanted to have the #5 updated version online for 3.5.4, and hope to 
have some more updates when I upload a 3.5.5 version of the DVD.  It 
may be near the end of July before I get 3.5.5 DVD created, since I 
have been sick and there are a lot of things that need to be done that 
are needed A.S.A.P. or before mid July.




On 06/25/2012 04:59 PM, John Kennedy wrote:

Will you send an email to the list when version 5 is available. I would
definitely burn it to give to friends and family...
John

John Kennedy


On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:41 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


Hi Dave.  I run the Libreoffice-na.us site.  It is not an official
download path, but a site for a DVD project with it accessible 
online as

well as on a physical media.

I found that the problems I had with downloading from LO's site due 
to a

problem with the mirror system of downloading.
When you download a file from there, you are actually downloading it 
from
one of the many mirrors available.  I would be one, buy my hosting 
company

will not allow that to happen.

Sometimes there are problems with the chosen mirror.

If you go to the info part of the green button to download the 
file,
and click there, you will be given a list of mirrors to choose from 
instead

of the downloading system to make that choice for you.

So you may be either having an issue with the default mirror,
OR
your dial-up company could be limiting the size of file being
downloaded.  I know that some do from experience.

So, here are your option, as I see it.

1)  try one of the mirrors and start the download before you go to bed.
  If it goes, you should have it by morning.

2)  have your son download the install files [install and help] and 
have

him send it to you on a CD.

3)  have you son download my DVD and send it to you.
 [version 5 of the 3.5.4 DVD .iso file will be available in a 
few days

- version 1 is online but not as good]

4)  I might be able to send you a copy of my DVD via post, but I do not
know how much the post office charges anymore.

If you want to talk to me  off the list, you can do so by either my

webmas...@krackedpress.com [default for the lists]
or
webmas...@libreoffice-na.us [default for the DVD project]

I help dial-up people locally from time to time.  I am in central 
New York
State along the Pennsylvania border.  I still have a laptop or two 
that has
a dial-up modem, but most modern ones do not, it seems.  I do not 
have them
set up for dial-up anymore, but I have a friend that uses a free 
dial-up
service that limits to 10 hours of work per month.  I understand 
that their

paid service also has a limiting factor on how large of a file you can
download.  It is not stated anywhere I have seen, but he has seen it 
happen
with others with that service.  If he needs to download large, 
either I do

it or he comes to my place to access my home/office network's Internet
access.  I also share that access via a private wireless system with
several people in my apartment building.  This secured network is 
part of
my own network with a separate router for their use and will not 
access my
part of the network due to the IP addresses from one network are 
different

from the other and you cannot access one part from the other.

So, hopefully it would be the mirror that is chosen for you. 
Otherwise you
will need to have someone send you the install files on a CD or a 
DVD if

you want more than just the basic installs.

Check out this link to see what my DVD has beyond the basic 
installs.  You

can find these files other places, but I gathered them into one place.
  Also I have the largest American English spell checking dictionary 
for LO,

or as far as I know and have been told.  There are in the dictionary
section of the DVD's web site  with kpp in the titles.

http://libreoffice-na.us/**English-3.5-installs/index.**htmlhttp://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/index.html 




On 06/25/2012 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi Dave :)

Errr, that was your 1st post to the list!  I can guess at your 
original

question which appears to have been lost in the ether.

There are a lot of possible different reasons why downloading doesn't
work.  The easiest work-around might be to get yoru son to download
LibreOffice onto 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Blimey!!  When you said it would be there in a few days i thought you meant a 
week or few!

Nicely done chap!
Regards from
Tom :)  



--- On Tue, 26/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 18:27


Version 5 of the 3.5.4 NA-DVD is online at

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

It just appeared today on that page, along with my version 1 ISO file.

It is 4 GB in size, where version 1 was a little larger at 4.1 GB.

With the updates and the edits, I was able to cut it down just a bit.



On 06/25/2012 06:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
 Any day now it will show up here, hopefully, instead of version #1.  All of 
 the updates for version 5 are online at the online version of the DVD.  
 Mostly it has updated extras like; documentation, updated foreign language 
 spell checkers, etc..
 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4
 
 I wanted to have the #5 updated version online for 3.5.4, and hope to have 
 some more updates when I upload a 3.5.5 version of the DVD.  It may be near 
 the end of July before I get 3.5.5 DVD created, since I have been sick and 
 there are a lot of things that need to be done that are needed A.S.A.P. or 
 before mid July.
 
 
 
 On 06/25/2012 04:59 PM, John Kennedy wrote:
 Will you send an email to the list when version 5 is available. I would
 definitely burn it to give to friends and family...
 John
 
 John Kennedy
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:41 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dave.  I run the Libreoffice-na.us site.  It is not an official
 download path, but a site for a DVD project with it accessible online as
 well as on a physical media.
 
 I found that the problems I had with downloading from LO's site due to a
 problem with the mirror system of downloading.
 When you download a file from there, you are actually downloading it from
 one of the many mirrors available.  I would be one, buy my hosting company
 will not allow that to happen.
 
 Sometimes there are problems with the chosen mirror.
 
 If you go to the info part of the green button to download the file,
 and click there, you will be given a list of mirrors to choose from instead
 of the downloading system to make that choice for you.
 
 So you may be either having an issue with the default mirror,
 OR
 your dial-up company could be limiting the size of file being
 downloaded.  I know that some do from experience.
 
 So, here are your option, as I see it.
 
 1)  try one of the mirrors and start the download before you go to bed.
   If it goes, you should have it by morning.
 
 2)  have your son download the install files [install and help] and have
 him send it to you on a CD.
 
 3)  have you son download my DVD and send it to you.
      [version 5 of the 3.5.4 DVD .iso file will be available in a few days
 - version 1 is online but not as good]
 
 4)  I might be able to send you a copy of my DVD via post, but I do not
 know how much the post office charges anymore.
 
 If you want to talk to me  off the list, you can do so by either my
 
     webmas...@krackedpress.com [default for the lists]
 or
     webmas...@libreoffice-na.us [default for the DVD project]
 
 I help dial-up people locally from time to time.  I am in central New York
 State along the Pennsylvania border.  I still have a laptop or two that has
 a dial-up modem, but most modern ones do not, it seems.  I do not have them
 set up for dial-up anymore, but I have a friend that uses a free dial-up
 service that limits to 10 hours of work per month.  I understand that their
 paid service also has a limiting factor on how large of a file you can
 download.  It is not stated anywhere I have seen, but he has seen it happen
 with others with that service.  If he needs to download large, either I do
 it or he comes to my place to access my home/office network's Internet
 access.  I also share that access via a private wireless system with
 several people in my apartment building.  This secured network is part of
 my own network with a separate router for their use and will not access my
 part of the network due to the IP addresses from one network are different
 from the other and you cannot access one part from the other.
 
 So, hopefully it would be the mirror that is chosen for you. Otherwise you
 will need to have someone send you the install files on a CD or a DVD if
 you want more than just the basic installs.
 
 Check out this link to see what my DVD has beyond the basic installs.  You
 can find these files other places, but I gathered them into one place.
   Also I have the largest American English spell checking dictionary for LO,
 or as far as I know and have been told.  There are in the dictionary
 section of the DVD's web site  with kpp in the titles.
 
 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice

2012-06-26 Thread John Kennedy
Thanks...Downloading now...
John

John Kennedy



On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


 Version 5 of the 3.5.4 NA-DVD is online at

 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

 It just appeared today on that page, along with my version 1 ISO file.

 It is 4 GB in size, where version 1 was a little larger at 4.1 GB.

 With the updates and the edits, I was able to cut it down just a bit.



 On 06/25/2012 06:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


 Any day now it will show up here, hopefully, instead of version #1.  All
 of the updates for version 5 are online at the online version of the DVD.
 Mostly it has updated extras like; documentation, updated foreign language
 spell checkers, etc..

 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

 I wanted to have the #5 updated version online for 3.5.4, and hope to have
 some more updates when I upload a 3.5.5 version of the DVD.  It may be near
 the end of July before I get 3.5.5 DVD created, since I have been sick and
 there are a lot of things that need to be done that are needed A.S.A.P. or
 before mid July.



 On 06/25/2012 04:59 PM, John Kennedy wrote:

 Will you send an email to the list when version 5 is available. I would
 definitely burn it to give to friends and family...
 John

 John Kennedy


 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:41 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 Hi Dave.  I run the Libreoffice-na.us site.  It is not an official
 download path, but a site for a DVD project with it accessible online as
 well as on a physical media.

 I found that the problems I had with downloading from LO's site due to a
 problem with the mirror system of downloading.
 When you download a file from there, you are actually downloading it from
 one of the many mirrors available.  I would be one, buy my hosting company
 will not allow that to happen.

 Sometimes there are problems with the chosen mirror.

 If you go to the info part of the green button to download the file,
 and click there, you will be given a list of mirrors to choose from
 instead
 of the downloading system to make that choice for you.

 So you may be either having an issue with the default mirror,
 OR
 your dial-up company could be limiting the size of file being
 downloaded.  I know that some do from experience.

 So, here are your option, as I see it.

 1)  try one of the mirrors and start the download before you go to bed.
   If it goes, you should have it by morning.

 2)  have your son download the install files [install and help] and have
 him send it to you on a CD.

 3)  have you son download my DVD and send it to you.
  [version 5 of the 3.5.4 DVD .iso file will be available in a few days
 - version 1 is online but not as good]

 4)  I might be able to send you a copy of my DVD via post, but I do not
 know how much the post office charges anymore.

 If you want to talk to me  off the list, you can do so by either my

 webmas...@krackedpress.com [default for the lists]
 or
 webmas...@libreoffice-na.us [default for the DVD project]

 I help dial-up people locally from time to time.  I am in central New York
 State along the Pennsylvania border.  I still have a laptop or two that
 has
 a dial-up modem, but most modern ones do not, it seems.  I do not have
 them
 set up for dial-up anymore, but I have a friend that uses a free dial-up
 service that limits to 10 hours of work per month.  I understand that
 their
 paid service also has a limiting factor on how large of a file you can
 download.  It is not stated anywhere I have seen, but he has seen it
 happen
 with others with that service.  If he needs to download large, either I do
 it or he comes to my place to access my home/office network's Internet
 access.  I also share that access via a private wireless system with
 several people in my apartment building.  This secured network is part of
 my own network with a separate router for their use and will not access my
 part of the network due to the IP addresses from one network are different
 from the other and you cannot access one part from the other.

 So, hopefully it would be the mirror that is chosen for you. Otherwise you
 will need to have someone send you the install files on a CD or a DVD if
 you want more than just the basic installs.

 Check out this link to see what my DVD has beyond the basic installs.  You
 can find these files other places, but I gathered them into one place.
   Also I have the largest American English spell checking dictionary for
 LO,
 or as far as I know and have been told.  There are in the dictionary
 section of the DVD's web site  with kpp in the titles.

 http://libreoffice-na.us/**English-3.5-installs/index.**html
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/index.htmlhttp://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/index.html


 On 06/25/2012 02:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi Dave :)

 Errr, that was your 1st post to the list!  I can 

Re: Form filling, was Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I thought Draw was the one to use for forms like that?  OCR?  
Sry, i have probably got a bit muddled but i just found this post in my spam 
folder
Regards from
Tom :)  


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From: jkedar prema...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Form filling, was  Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a 
questionnaire...
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 24 June, 2012, 19:58

Hi, 
Copy paste picture in Calc - Arrange to Background allows data entry into
cells. Couldn't this be a form ? 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] New brothers printer does not appear to print Landscape.

2012-06-26 Thread upscope
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 05:07:47 PM Thomas Taylor wrote:
 On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:13 +1200
 Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote about Re:
 [libreoffice-users] New
 brothers printer does not appear to print Landscape.:
  I have to print to pdf and then print the PDF to get around this on
  my Brother, printing is ok on my HP. Must be something to do with
  the brother driver because Firefox won't print in landscaqpe
  either. steve
  
  On 2012-06-22 00:55, upscope wrote:
   LibreOffice 3.5.3.2
   Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)
   
   Has printer administration been removed or the name changed in
   version 3.5.3?
   
   KDE applications print good with CUPS and LPR.
   
   
   
   Russ
   openSUSE 12.1(3.1.10-1.9-desktop x86_64)|KDE Platform Version
   4.8.3 (4.8.3) release 504|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB
   DDR3|GeForce 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53)
 
 Printing from FF has been a known problem for some time.
 
 Tom
 
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Now have most of my issues solved. Printer prints from L.O. Ok, Okular 
ok and sveral other application. Did find some problems in the install 
instructions for both printer and scanner. installed brscan4 and brscan-
skey. Looks like it is a command line tool with intervention needed on 
printer. 

XSANE scans, ok. Also found errors with YaSt handling of scanner 
install. Manual install worked with corrected commands. Not sure if 
scanner install with yast is openSUSE 12.1 bug or Brothers. Next step is 
to install on 12.2 Beta2.

Thanks for your help. 

Is there a brothers trouble ticket where I can add comments or should I 
just start a new one?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] different X-Displays

2012-06-26 Thread Walther Koehler
Hi,
our scenario:
several clients use via ssh the same user-account and run a common prog
client1$ ssh -X user@server prog
client2$ ssh -X user@server prog
...
Every client starts its own instance of prog and get the output on the clients 
screen.

However

client1$ ssh [-X] user@server libreoffice3.4 --display client1:0 --writer

will output on the server screen only.
What should I do?

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to export the bibliography DB to Zotero?

2012-06-26 Thread e-letter
On 25/06/2012, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hi

 I have a database of ~3000 entries that I would like to export to Zotero.


Is this an OO bibliography?

 What would be the recommended way of doing this? I can't seem to find
 such information in Zotero forums. I thought I'd ask here as I know my
 way around LibreOffice better than Zotero.


Have you tried jabref, to import from OO to jabref and then export
from jabref to zotero?

 This seems like a similar problem although it describes importing from
 the bibliography *text*, not the OOo/LibO database:
 http://www.zotero.org/support/kb/importing_formatted_bibliographies

 At ~3000 entries, it's impractical to create a new document with *all*
 entries, not to mention (most possible) data missing when reimporting that.

 A friend mentioned using RDF as an intermediary format, or .bib, but
 again I would have to have a document with all my references (this
 doesn't import all refs from the database AFAIK):
 http://www.estm.co.uk/blog/software/export-openoffice-writer-bibliography-to-zotero.html


You should re-consider using LO; LaTeX is _far_ superior.

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[libreoffice-users] Problem installing LibreOffice

2012-06-26 Thread David Trott
I have tried several
times to install LibreOffice.I have downloaded it more than
once.I use Windows 7 Ultimate and have 8Gb of internal ram.My laptop is 
relatively new and is high specification with
plenty of free space.I have had no problem loading other
software that I can recall.I enclose an attachment showing the error 
message.It appears
part way through the install process.I emphasise that I have
no previous version running or indeed any version of LibreOffice
3.5 already installed and I am attempting to install as a single
user.I cannot understand why this message constantly
appears.Once I close the dialogue box, it immediately goes to
the final dialogue box, but contains a warning that it has not
installed.Finally, I have checked msconfig and no process or service is
operating.In Programs and Features, there is no reference to
LibreOffice.I hope you can identify the problem and I hope to hear from 
you
soon.RegardsDavid Trott
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice

2012-06-26 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


I was just waiting for the file to migrate to all the mirrors and then 
they would have the file shown on the download page.  It can take a day 
or four, depending on how long the mirrors take to sync up.


So I uploaded it, waited for it to be placed in the mirrored folder[s], 
and waited for the system to show it.  My only part is the uploading.  
Everything else is depending on others and their systems.


The week or few was the fact that I had it ready but between bandwidth 
commitments and being sick, I could not upload it for about a week after 
I created it.  It does take over 9 hours to upload these DVDs, with my 
limit of 120 +/- KB/s uploading.  My download speeds can be over 10 
MB/s.  I am paying for 1 MB/s uploading, but the building would need to 
replace all of the cables that were poured in concrete walls in 1975-76 
in order to get that, or so I suspect.  Even the telephone lines would 
have problems with dealing with half the DSL speeds that I would be 
paying for if I went that route.  So, it takes a day or night to do the 
uploading and committing all my bandwidth to that cause, since even 
browsing need some uploading of returned data for the packet queries.




On 06/26/2012 01:40 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Blimey!!  When you said it would be there in a few days i thought you meant a 
week or few!

Nicely done chap!
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Tue, 26/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 18:27


Version 5 of the 3.5.4 NA-DVD is online at

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

It just appeared today on that page, along with my version 1 ISO file.

It is 4 GB in size, where version 1 was a little larger at 4.1 GB.

With the updates and the edits, I was able to cut it down just a bit.



On 06/25/2012 06:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

Any day now it will show up here, hopefully, instead of version #1.  All of the 
updates for version 5 are online at the online version of the DVD.  Mostly it 
has updated extras like; documentation, updated foreign language spell 
checkers, etc..

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

I wanted to have the #5 updated version online for 3.5.4, and hope to have some 
more updates when I upload a 3.5.5 version of the DVD.  It may be near the end 
of July before I get 3.5.5 DVD created, since I have been sick and there are a 
lot of things that need to be done that are needed A.S.A.P. or before mid July.



On 06/25/2012 04:59 PM, John Kennedy wrote:

Will you send an email to the list when version 5 is available. I would
definitely burn it to give to friends and family...
John

John Kennedy


On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:41 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


Hi Dave.  I run the Libreoffice-na.us site.  It is not an official
download path, but a site for a DVD project with it accessible online as
well as on a physical media.

I found that the problems I had with downloading from LO's site due to a
problem with the mirror system of downloading.
When you download a file from there, you are actually downloading it from
one of the many mirrors available.  I would be one, buy my hosting company
will not allow that to happen.

Sometimes there are problems with the chosen mirror.

If you go to the info part of the green button to download the file,
and click there, you will be given a list of mirrors to choose from instead
of the downloading system to make that choice for you.

So you may be either having an issue with the default mirror,
OR
your dial-up company could be limiting the size of file being
downloaded.  I know that some do from experience.

So, here are your option, as I see it.

1)  try one of the mirrors and start the download before you go to bed.
If it goes, you should have it by morning.

2)  have your son download the install files [install and help] and have
him send it to you on a CD.

3)  have you son download my DVD and send it to you.
   [version 5 of the 3.5.4 DVD .iso file will be available in a few days
- version 1 is online but not as good]

4)  I might be able to send you a copy of my DVD via post, but I do not
know how much the post office charges anymore.

If you want to talk to me  off the list, you can do so by either my

  webmas...@krackedpress.com [default for the lists]
or
  webmas...@libreoffice-na.us [default for the DVD project]

I help dial-up people locally from time to time.  I am in central New York
State along the Pennsylvania border.  I still have a laptop or two that has
a dial-up modem, but most modern ones do not, it seems.  I do not have them
set up for dial-up anymore, but I have a friend that uses a free dial-up
service that limits to 10 hours of work per month.  I understand that their
paid service also has a limiting 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem installing LibreOffice

2012-06-26 Thread Jay Lozier
On 06/26/2012 04:57 PM, David Trott wrote:
 I have tried several
 times to install LibreOffice.I have downloaded it more than
 once.I use Windows 7 Ultimate and have 8Gb of internal ram.My laptop 
 is relatively new and is high specification with
 plenty of free space.I have had no problem loading other
 software that I can recall.I enclose an attachment showing the error 
 message.It appears
 part way through the install process.I emphasise that I have
 no previous version running or indeed any version of LibreOffice
 3.5 already installed and I am attempting to install as a single
 user.I cannot understand why this message constantly
 appears.Once I close the dialogue box, it immediately goes to
 the final dialogue box, but contains a warning that it has not
 installed.Finally, I have checked msconfig and no process or service 
 is
 operating.In Programs and Features, there is no reference to
 LibreOffice.I hope you can identify the problem and I hope to hear 
 from you
 soon.RegardsDavid Trott
Do you have Open Office installed? Check to see if you have soffice.exe
running in the background (CNTL-ALT-DEL and select TaskManager). This
the AOO/OOo/LO quickstarter and if it is open LO will not install.

What is the text of the error message?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
No, on 25th June (ie yday) you (Tim) said

        [version 5 of the 3.5.4 DVD .iso file will be available in a few 
days

One day later you tell us it's ready!  Fantastic!  Sure, we expect a delay 
between the official LO release date and it appearing in repos and on tailored 
Dvds because we know a lot of work goes into preparing these sorts of things.

My repos for Ubuntu 10.04 are still giving me 3.4.6 (which i am still very 
happy with).  Your Dvds are  ahead of one of the largest community-based 
projects that have tons of people working on these sorts of things 
(hopefully).  Just accept the compliment!  You've earned it :)  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 26/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 22:04


I was just waiting for the file to migrate to all the mirrors and then 
they would have the file shown on the download page.  It can take a day 
or four, depending on how long the mirrors take to sync up.

So I uploaded it, waited for it to be placed in the mirrored folder[s], 
and waited for the system to show it.  My only part is the uploading.  
Everything else is depending on others and their systems.

The week or few was the fact that I had it ready but between bandwidth 
commitments and being sick, I could not upload it for about a week after 
I created it.  It does take over 9 hours to upload these DVDs, with my 
limit of 120 +/- KB/s uploading.  My download speeds can be over 10 
MB/s.  I am paying for 1 MB/s uploading, but the building would need to 
replace all of the cables that were poured in concrete walls in 1975-76 
in order to get that, or so I suspect.  Even the telephone lines would 
have problems with dealing with half the DSL speeds that I would be 
paying for if I went that route.  So, it takes a day or night to do the 
uploading and committing all my bandwidth to that cause, since even 
browsing need some uploading of returned data for the packet queries.



On 06/26/2012 01:40 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Blimey!!  When you said it would be there in a few days i thought you meant a 
 week or few!

 Nicely done chap!
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 --- On Tue, 26/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 18:27


 Version 5 of the 3.5.4 NA-DVD is online at

 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

 It just appeared today on that page, along with my version 1 ISO file.

 It is 4 GB in size, where version 1 was a little larger at 4.1 GB.

 With the updates and the edits, I was able to cut it down just a bit.



 On 06/25/2012 06:07 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 Any day now it will show up here, hopefully, instead of version #1.  All of 
 the updates for version 5 are online at the online version of the DVD.  
 Mostly it has updated extras like; documentation, updated foreign language 
 spell checkers, etc..

 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.4

 I wanted to have the #5 updated version online for 3.5.4, and hope to have 
 some more updates when I upload a 3.5.5 version of the DVD.  It may be near 
 the end of July before I get 3.5.5 DVD created, since I have been sick and 
 there are a lot of things that need to be done that are needed A.S.A.P. or 
 before mid July.



 On 06/25/2012 04:59 PM, John Kennedy wrote:
 Will you send an email to the list when version 5 is available. I would
 definitely burn it to give to friends and family...
 John

 John Kennedy


 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:41 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 Hi Dave.  I run the Libreoffice-na.us site.  It is not an official
 download path, but a site for a DVD project with it accessible online as
 well as on a physical media.

 I found that the problems I had with downloading from LO's site due to a
 problem with the mirror system of downloading.
 When you download a file from there, you are actually downloading it from
 one of the many mirrors available.  I would be one, buy my hosting company
 will not allow that to happen.

 Sometimes there are problems with the chosen mirror.

 If you go to the info part of the green button to download the file,
 and click there, you will be given a list of mirrors to choose from instead
 of the downloading system to make that choice for you.

 So you may be either having an issue with the default mirror,
 OR
 your dial-up company could be limiting the size of file being
 downloaded.  I know that some do from experience.

 So, here are your option, as I see it.

 1)  try one of the mirrors and start the download before you go to bed.
     If it goes, you should have it by morning.

 2)  have your son 

[libreoffice-users] page refresh to populate dropdown list with newly added data HELP!!! Need ideas !

2012-06-26 Thread Beth Lesko
I've created a program using base. Users enter data into an .odt file. I
have a button that opens another form, so the user can add data to the
database, but when they return to the prior document, they have to refresh
the database in order to see the newly entered data in a dropdown list. My
users are elderly, so I need this process to be super easy.

What I've done, is added a button to the second form - Return to___
naming the form they started from. This activates the document, but I still
need a way for the refresh to happen automatically. I either need the first
form to close when the second one opens, so the data is available when the
return to is clicked, or, when the first form is activated, it needs
to automatically refresh via a macro or something.

Any thoughts? I would really appreciate your assistance.

Thank you,

Beth

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice

2012-06-26 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


Yesterday, I was told that the upload will be going to the mirrors, but 
not given any idea about how long it would take. I stated a few days 
since it took that long with my last upload.


For me, I need to wait a few days after the 3.5.5 comes out, before I go 
after the 99 items and 2.1 gig of files for it, if you also get a 
3.5.5 portable version[s] as well.  So I do not go after it the first 
few days when the mirrors might be more busy.  But it will then take a 
bit to edit the DVD[s] to go to 3.5.5 from 3.5.4, but less time than it 
would be to go from 3.4.6.


I run Ubuntu 10.04/GNOME and 12.04 [with MATE], along with a few windows 
system.  I wish 10.04 would go to the newer LO line as 12.04 does.  It 
would be easier to do the updating then.


The real thing about my DVD is that you can take it and then redue it to 
be more towards your needs.  The real part of the plan was to have a 
single disc that includes almost everything that a new user might need 
with his/her install of LO, including every dictionary, thesaurus, etc. 
extension in every language version found.  Then there are the templates 
and gallery extensions.  Then all of the documentation files - now with 
3.3, 3.4, and/or 3.5 version when available.  Then there was the extras 
like Firefox and Thunderbird, plus a few other packages that might be 
useful to the users.  So, you get 2.1 GB is all the install files, 
including help/language files in 8 languages.  Then the rest of the 
[now] 4.0 GB DVD [except the internal needs of the DVD web pages] is all 
the other extras, 1.8 GB worth of files [over 600 of them].


At least I do not need to update all of that for every update of LO.  
But, as more 3.4 and 3.5 docs are available, I can remove the 3.3 
versions to save space.  As I find that the non-English dictionaries 
have updates, I will work on updating them.  I believe I did French 
[4?], German [4?], Spanish [20], plus a few more dictionary updating.  
Then I found a few updates to the extensions I had listed.  Thunderbird 
and Firefox got updated.  Though I do not own a Mac, I try to see if 
there are any Mac versions/updates of the extra packages I list in 
that page.  I cannot run those version, like I do with Windows and 
Ubuntu version, but I will list it anyway for our MacOSX PPC and 
Intel/x86 users.


I do a little at a time.

Just ask Tom about the redesign of my Install and Documentation pages 
in this version 5 of the DVD.  I may have a completely new theme of 
the pages by the time I release my first 3.6 line DVD, which may not be 
till 3.6.3 or 3.6.4. But, if I do it slowly and one page at a time, it 
is easier. There are still pages that have not changed since the 3.3.x 
DVD versions.  There was not real need, but may in a few months.


On 06/26/2012 05:53 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
No, on 25th June (ie yday) you (Tim) said


 [version 5 of the 3.5.4 DVD .iso file will be available in a few days


One day later you tell us it's ready!  Fantastic!  Sure, we expect a delay 
between the official LO release date and it appearing in repos and on tailored 
Dvds because we know a lot of work goes into preparing these sorts of things.

My repos for Ubuntu 10.04 are still giving me 3.4.6 (which i am still very 
happy with).  Your Dvds are  ahead of one of the largest community-based 
projects that have tons of people working on these sorts of things (hopefully). 
 Just accept the compliment!  You've earned it :)

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 26/6/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading LibreOffice
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 26 June, 2012, 22:04


I was just waiting for the file to migrate to all the mirrors and then
they would have the file shown on the download page.  It can take a day
or four, depending on how long the mirrors take to sync up.

So I uploaded it, waited for it to be placed in the mirrored folder[s],
and waited for the system to show it.  My only part is the uploading.
Everything else is depending on others and their systems.

The week or few was the fact that I had it ready but between bandwidth
commitments and being sick, I could not upload it for about a week after
I created it.  It does take over 9 hours to upload these DVDs, with my
limit of 120 +/- KB/s uploading.  My download speeds can be over 10
MB/s.  I am paying for 1 MB/s uploading, but the building would need to
replace all of the cables that were poured in concrete walls in 1975-76
in order to get that, or so I suspect.  Even the telephone lines would
have problems with dealing with half the DSL speeds that I would be
paying for if I went that route.  So, it takes a day or night to do the
uploading and committing all my bandwidth to that cause, since even
browsing need some uploading of returned data for the packet queries.



On 06/26/2012 01:40 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Blimey!! 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Read-only fields

2012-06-26 Thread Mark McDougall
On 26/06/2012 9:49 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

 I ran across this the other day but with OpenOffice. assuming the same
 fix, you have to go to the 'section' under 'format' and turn off 'write
 protection' and maybe turn on 'editable in read-only document'.

'Format-Sections' isn't enabled in this document.

Thanks anyway.

Surely someone else has had this problem???

Regards,

-- 
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Virtual Logic Pty Ltd, http://www.vl.com.au
21-25 King St, Rockdale, 2216
Ph: +612-9599-3255 Fax: +612-9599-3266



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: latest java update has broken my install of Libre Office.

2012-06-26 Thread Tom Randall

Hi all.

Ok well I have done as complete an uninstall and registry cleaning as I can 
reasonably do at this point.  After uninstalling all java related things 
including L.O. I cleaned the registry and there were in fact some errors 
that were corrected.  So I then re-installed the programs in the order that 
Stuart suggested.  However, when I run L.O. and try to enable accessibility 
I get this error message.


LibreOffice requires a Java runtime environment (JRE) to perform this task. 
The selected JRE
is defective. Please select another version or install a new JRE and select 
it under Tools -

Options - LibreOffice - Java.
OK

So, this is where I am at this point.  I hope to hell somebody figures out 
what is going on with this since I am apparently not the only person having 
this problem.  Fortunately my Mac version of L.O. is still working so I can 
use it to actually get work done because I cannot afford to keep frakking 
around with this all week.


I'm done ranting for now, I do appreciate you guys trying to help out and I 
am sure we will get this figured out eventually.


Best regards,

Tom
-Original Message- 
From: V Stuart Foote

Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:09 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: latest java update has broken my install of 
Libre Office.


Tom,

Java based programs on a Windows OS are frustratingly unstable when multiple
Java Runtime Environments are present because of the way program
configurations are pointed to the version of Java to call--registry entries,
user environment variables, system environment variables.

For stability, run with just one JRE--but don't allow it to update until
convenient for you to monitor changes.

You could jump in and immediately uninstall all things Java based (NVDA,
Dolphin, JAB)  and LibreOffice--and clean the registry. And then reinstall
everything so configuration files are correct.

But one simple option for additional troubleshooting  would be to create a
new user account on the computer. Login to it--and test your Java
components. If JAB based utilities run, then check them in LibreOffice.  And
if while using the new account, JAB based programs fail (and they may),  you
probably will need to uninstall and reinstall.   But if all is good for the
new user account, the problem *is* configuration issue for you normal
account, and you will need to dig into your Windows user profile.


An uninstall, reinstall will fix either case but is tedious and error prone
-- so use an uninstaller ( I prefer the VSRevo products with moderate
registry clean-up, the free version is fine for 32-bit, but would need the
Pro for 64-bit--has a modest license fee to use beyond trial period -- find
them here:

freeware 32-bit only  --
http://www.revouninstaller.com/start_freeware_download.html
pro version 32/64 -bit trial  --
http://www.revouninstaller.com/download-professional-version.php )

Then reload these Windows programs in order:
JRE 1.7u5 (this would now be the ONLY Java runtime on the system, with fresh
configuration laid down)
Java Access Bridge (use Jamal Mazrui's JWin installer from
http://empowermentzone.com/JWin.htm )
Dolphin or NVDA (or both) (test that they're working)
LibreOffice 3.5.4  (select the JRE, and activate  Accessibility -- assistive
technology tools)

Obviously once Dolphin or NVDA come off you are likely to need some sighted
assistance with the interface, but it should be brief and by running through
the clean up this way--you will be more likely to have a stable and fully
functioning system as an outcome.

Stuart

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: latest java update has broken my installof Libre Office.

2012-06-26 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,
 
But the Java Access Bridge, v 2.02 did load against JRE 1.7u5--correct?  Are 
you back up with your NVDA, and or Dolphin screen reader?
 
Did you delete (or rename)  your LibreOffice user profile following the 
uninstall prior to launching LibreOffice after reload?  That would be the 
entire C:\Users\your user name\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice folder.
 
Any difference working with a newly created user account?
 
Stuart
 



From: Tom Randall [mailto:kf6...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tue 6/26/2012 11:10 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: latest java update has broken my installof 
Libre Office.



Hi all.

Ok well I have done as complete an uninstall and registry cleaning as I can
reasonably do at this point.  After uninstalling all java related things
including L.O. I cleaned the registry and there were in fact some errors
that were corrected.  So I then re-installed the programs in the order that
Stuart suggested.  However, when I run L.O. and try to enable accessibility
I get this error message.

LibreOffice requires a Java runtime environment (JRE) to perform this task.
The selected JRE
is defective. Please select another version or install a new JRE and select
it under Tools -
Options - LibreOffice - Java.
OK

So, this is where I am at this point.  I hope to hell somebody figures out
what is going on with this since I am apparently not the only person having
this problem.  Fortunately my Mac version of L.O. is still working so I can
use it to actually get work done because I cannot afford to keep frakking
around with this all week.

I'm done ranting for now, I do appreciate you guys trying to help out and I
am sure we will get this figured out eventually.

Best regards,

Tom



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