[libreoffice-users] Re: insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-07-31 03:33, Grant a écrit :

I'm using Libreoffice Writer on Gentoo Linux and I'm getting an error
telling me I have insufficient user rights when I try to save a
document to any filename other than the default Untitled 1 which
saves fine.  Does anyone know what could be causing this?

- Grant



Could you be trying to save in a file folder where you do not have the 
rights to save to? Try saving in your Home or Document folder to see 
if this is the problem.


Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's very weird that it allows one specific file-name but not others.  Perhaps 
the particular file-name that is NOT working is the name of a protected file in 
that folder?  
Regards from
Tom :)  


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From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: insufficient user rights if I change the 
filename
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 1 August, 2012, 7:51

Le 2012-07-31 03:33, Grant a écrit :
 I'm using Libreoffice Writer on Gentoo Linux and I'm getting an error
 telling me I have insufficient user rights when I try to save a
 document to any filename other than the default Untitled 1 which
 saves fine.  Does anyone know what could be causing this?
 
 - Grant
 

Could you be trying to save in a file folder where you do not have the rights 
to save to? Try saving in your Home or Document folder to see if this is 
the problem.

Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-07-31 10:33 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

are you perchance clicking on 'save' rather than 'save as'?

I don't know why the 'save' is there;-)


Obviously it is so that you can easily save changes to a file that has 
already been saved/named, without having to save it to an ever different 
name...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread anne-ology
   if that was the reason for 'save' then it would save in the same
folder,
  rather than some temp [?] folder with some strange name where
it's not findable  ;-)

   I think this same un-findable folder is used for saving when the
program auto-saves;
  for that reason, I always turn off the auto-save ... [I think I'm
capable of knowing when  where to save ;-) ]
 [it's so frustrating since it always seems to happen right
when I'm in the middle of thinking through a thought I'm writing ;-) ]



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

On 2012-07-31 10:33 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

 are you perchance clicking on 'save' rather than 'save as'?

 I don't know why the 'save' is there;-)


 Obviously it is so that you can easily save changes to a file that has
 already been saved/named, without having to save it to an ever different
 name...



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[libreoffice-users] Re: insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 31.07.2012 09:33, Grant wrote:

I'm using Libreoffice Writer on Gentoo Linux and I'm getting an error
telling me I have insufficient user rights when I try to save a
document to any filename other than the default Untitled 1 which
saves fine.  Does anyone know what could be causing this?

- Grant



Is it really that difficult to tell us everything about your file 
system, the path of the file, the file itself?


Your Linux file system is documented perfectly well in various man 
pages, tutorials, books throughout the internet.


cd /tmp
mkdir test
touch test/file
chmod -w test
cd test
mv file file2
mv: Verschieben von »file“ nach »file2“ nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung
[mv: Moving file to file2 impossible: insufficient  user rights]
ls -ld .
dr-xr-xr-x 2 andreas andreas 4096 Aug  1 15:09 .
ls -l file
-rw-rw-r-- 1 andreas andreas 0 Aug  1 15:09 file




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[libreoffice-users] Forcing a paragraph onto odd numbered pages

2012-08-01 Thread rob wood
Hi,

I can't seem to see how to get a paragraph (or page) to only be on odd (or
even) pages i.e each chapter should start on an odd page, if the page is
even, it needs to insert a page break before the style starts so it becomes
an odd numbered page.

Is this impossible or am I just missing something obvious?

Nb This needs to be automatic so that if the number of pages change, I
don't have to remember to go through checking what page the chapters are
all starting on.

Thanks for your help.

rob

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Forcing a paragraph onto odd numbered pages

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 08/01/2012 09:37 AM, rob wood wrote:

Hi,

I can't seem to see how to get a paragraph (or page) to only be on odd (or
even) pages i.e each chapter should start on an odd page, if the page is
even, it needs to insert a page break before the style starts so it becomes
an odd numbered page.

Is this impossible or am I just missing something obvious?

Nb This needs to be automatic so that if the number of pages change, I
don't have to remember to go through checking what page the chapters are
all starting on.

Thanks for your help.

rob



If your primary concern is that a chapter starts on a left or right 
page I do this with page styles. I have a style called 
chapter_first_page, which is always a left page. The next page style 
is set to be chapter_following. When I start a new chapter, I insert a 
page break and set the next page style as chapter_first_page.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Forcing a paragraph onto odd numbered pages

2012-08-01 Thread rob wood
 I can't seem to see how to get a paragraph (or page) to only be on odd (or
 even) pages


 If your primary concern is that a chapter starts on a left or right
 page I do this with page styles. I have a style called
 chapter_first_page, which is always a left page.


Thanks for the reply, but the problem is that I don't see how to set the
page style to be always a left page? Am I just missing a check box
somewhere?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Forcing a paragraph onto odd numbered pages

2012-08-01 Thread rob wood
Ahh got it.

Page Style - Page - Layout Settings - Page Layout - Only Left

Thanks

On 1 August 2012 14:55, rob wood r...@pangolin.org.uk wrote:


 I can't seem to see how to get a paragraph (or page) to only be on odd (or
 even) pages


 If your primary concern is that a chapter starts on a left or right
 page I do this with page styles. I have a style called
 chapter_first_page, which is always a left page.


 Thanks for the reply, but the problem is that I don't see how to set the
 page style to be always a left page? Am I just missing a check box
 somewhere?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Forcing a paragraph onto odd numbered pages

2012-08-01 Thread Dan

rob wood wrote:

I can't seem to see how to get a paragraph (or page) to only be on odd (or

even) pages



If your primary concern is that a chapter starts on a left or right 
page I do
this with page styles. I have a style called , which is always a
left page.



Thanks for the reply, but the problem is that I don't see how to set the page 
style to
be always a left page? Am I just missing a check box somewhere?


 Two of the included page styles in LO are: Left Page, and Right page. The first will 
always result in a Left page creating a blank page in front of it if necessary. Similarly, 
the second will always result in a right page creating a blank page if necessary.
 What Rob has done is to create a new page style, chapter_first_page, from the Left 
Page style. To do this, Right click on Left Page style and select New from the context 
menu. Name the new page style and add any other properties you want the style to have 
(header, footer, etc.). Also select what page style you want to use following the 
chapter_first_page style.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I change the default autosave time to something fairly long, around 1 hour or 
so.  So, if i do accidentally spend a lot tooo long making a cuppa tea then at 
least my work gets saved.  

I think the default is fairly annoying but it depends on the person.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 1/8/12, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the 
filename
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 1 August, 2012, 14:09

       if that was the reason for 'save' then it would save in the same
folder,
          rather than some temp [?] folder with some strange name where
it's not findable  ;-)

       I think this same un-findable folder is used for saving when the
program auto-saves;
          for that reason, I always turn off the auto-save ... [I think I'm
capable of knowing when  where to save ;-) ]
             [it's so frustrating since it always seems to happen right
when I'm in the middle of thinking through a thought I'm writing ;-) ]



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

On 2012-07-31 10:33 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

 are you perchance clicking on 'save' rather than 'save as'?

 I don't know why the 'save' is there;-)


 Obviously it is so that you can easily save changes to a file that has
 already been saved/named, without having to save it to an ever different
 name...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Brager
As a forced Windoze user with nearly daily machine crashes (Blue 
Screen of Frustration anyone?) with a high loss record, I have my 
autosave set for every 5 minutes.  I can live with the 3 second pauses.  
Well worth the potential loss of an hours worth of work that would be 
impossible to recreate.


On 8/1/2012 8:16 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I change the default autosave time to something fairly long, around 1 hour or 
so.  So, if i do accidentally spend a lot tooo long making a cuppa tea then at 
least my work gets saved.

I think the default is fairly annoying but it depends on the person.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 1/8/12, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the 
filename
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 1 August, 2012, 14:09

if that was the reason for 'save' then it would save in the same
folder,
   rather than some temp [?] folder with some strange name where
it's not findable  ;-)

I think this same un-findable folder is used for saving when the
program auto-saves;
   for that reason, I always turn off the auto-save ... [I think I'm
capable of knowing when  where to save ;-) ]
  [it's so frustrating since it always seems to happen right
when I'm in the middle of thinking through a thought I'm writing ;-) ]



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

On 2012-07-31 10:33 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

are you perchance clicking on 'save' rather than 'save as'?

I don't know why the 'save' is there;-)


Obviously it is so that you can easily save changes to a file that has
already been saved/named, without having to save it to an ever different
name...





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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Not even a virtual machine nor the Wubi would save you from the BSODs.  Thqanks 
for reminding me how lucky i am :D 
Regards from
Tom :)  


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From: Andrew Brager apb3...@bak.rr.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the 
filename
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 1 August, 2012, 16:39

As a forced Windoze user with nearly daily machine crashes (Blue 
Screen of Frustration anyone?) with a high loss record, I have my 
autosave set for every 5 minutes.  I can live with the 3 second pauses.  
Well worth the potential loss of an hours worth of work that would be 
impossible to recreate.

On 8/1/2012 8:16 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I change the default autosave time to something fairly long, around 1 hour or 
 so.  So, if i do accidentally spend a lot tooo long making a cuppa tea then 
 at least my work gets saved.

 I think the default is fairly annoying but it depends on the person.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 --- On Wed, 1/8/12, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the 
 filename
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 1 August, 2012, 14:09

         if that was the reason for 'save' then it would save in the same
 folder,
            rather than some temp [?] folder with some strange name where
 it's not findable  ;-)

         I think this same un-findable folder is used for saving when the
 program auto-saves;
            for that reason, I always turn off the auto-save ... [I think I'm
 capable of knowing when  where to save ;-) ]
               [it's so frustrating since it always seems to happen right
 when I'm in the middle of thinking through a thought I'm writing ;-) ]



 On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 On 2012-07-31 10:33 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:
 are you perchance clicking on 'save' rather than 'save as'?

 I don't know why the 'save' is there;-)

 Obviously it is so that you can easily save changes to a file that has
 already been saved/named, without having to save it to an ever different
 name...




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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Doug

On 08/01/2012 11:39 AM, Andrew Brager wrote:
As a forced Windoze user with nearly daily machine crashes (Blue 
Screen of Frustration anyone?) with a high loss record, I have my 
autosave set for every 5 minutes.  I can live with the 3 second 
pauses.  Well worth the potential loss of an hours worth of work that 
would be impossible to recreate. 
Unless the machine only crashes on LO, I think there's something very 
much unkosher in your system, and you should find it and get it fixed.  
I used XP Pro and Win7 Pro  quite a bit,
and NEVER saw a BSOD!  BSODs stopped with Windows98, as far as I know.  
(Never used W2000 or Vista.)


--doug

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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Spencer Graves
I've had BSODs and similar events with Windows 7, Vista, XP, Windows 98, 
... .  I don't know, but I suspect that some of these may be hardware 
not software.  Spencer



On 8/1/2012 11:14 AM, Doug wrote:

On 08/01/2012 11:39 AM, Andrew Brager wrote:
As a forced Windoze user with nearly daily machine crashes (Blue 
Screen of Frustration anyone?) with a high loss record, I have my 
autosave set for every 5 minutes. I can live with the 3 second 
pauses.  Well worth the potential loss of an hours worth of work that 
would be impossible to recreate. 
Unless the machine only crashes on LO, I think there's something very 
much unkosher in your system, and you should find it and get it 
fixed.  I used XP Pro and Win7 Pro  quite a bit,
and NEVER saw a BSOD!  BSODs stopped with Windows98, as far as I 
know.  (Never used W2000 or Vista.)


--doug




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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Jay Lozier

On 08/01/2012 02:14 PM, Doug wrote:

On 08/01/2012 11:39 AM, Andrew Brager wrote:
As a forced Windoze user with nearly daily machine crashes (Blue 
Screen of Frustration anyone?) with a high loss record, I have my 
autosave set for every 5 minutes. I can live with the 3 second 
pauses.  Well worth the potential loss of an hours worth of work that 
would be impossible to recreate. 
Unless the machine only crashes on LO, I think there's something very 
much unkosher in your system, and you should find it and get it 
fixed.  I used XP Pro and Win7 Pro  quite a bit,
and NEVER saw a BSOD!  BSODs stopped with Windows98, as far as I 
know.  (Never used W2000 or Vista.)


--doug

I have seen a couple BSOD on Win XP and 7 but with much less frequency 
than with Win 98. I never determined the actual cause because they 
appeared more or less randomly.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 01.08.2012 08:51, Marc Paré wrote:


Could you be trying to save in a file folder where you do not have the
rights to save to? Try saving in your Home or Document folder to see
if this is the problem.

Cheers,

Marc




This thread is symptomatic for the whole mailing list. Nobody has the 
most fundamental knowledge to solve a simple problem but dozends of 
people have to say something completely off topic.
You are on the right track. You may remove the write flag from a file so 
you can not modify the file anymore. A directory is a file which 
contains a list of regular files. When you remove write flag from a 
directory, you can not modify the list of files.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Forcing a paragraph onto odd numbered pages

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 08/01/2012 09:55 AM, rob wood wrote:

I can't seem to see how to get a paragraph (or page) to only be on odd (or

even) pages



If your primary concern is that a chapter starts on a left or right
page I do this with page styles. I have a style called
chapter_first_page, which is always a left page.


Thanks for the reply, but the problem is that I don't see how to set the
page style to be always a left page? Am I just missing a check box
somewhere?

I created my own page styles. As is pointed out by Dan, there is already 
a Left and Right page style directly, so you can just use that, but I 
fear that it does NOT do what you want. For example,


Use F11 to toggle the Styles and Formatting pane open and close. When it 
is open. Click on the Page styles icon along the top of the pane.


Right click on the Left page style and choose Modify. Now, select the 
Organizer tab. This shows you that the next page style is Left. This 
means that when a page formatted with the Left page style is finished, 
the next page style that is used is Left. Sadly, this means that you 
will have one left page after another.


If you click on the Page tab and look in the lower left corner you will 
see that this page style is ONLY usable on left pages.


So, you can do something like this With all those other dialogs 
closed, right click on the Default page style (it is named Default) and 
select New.


On the organizer tab, change the name to something like 
first_page_in_chapter. For the Next style, set it to Default. That 
means that the second page in the chapter will use the Default style.


Select the Page tab and set the Page Layout to be Left page.

There, you can save it and use it.

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[libreoffice-users] Default style list

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Brager


Most of the time when I create a new document I want to set the Title 
style on the first line/paragraph.  So, I go to the little dropdown box 
at the top on the left, where common styles are selected (what I'm 
calling the default style selection list - for lack of a better known 
alternative) and Title is not there.  So, I click on more  This 
brings up the Styles  Formatting dialog with 20 (Paragraph) styles 
listed.  None of them are Title.


From there, I have a choice, I can click on the drop down menu at the 
bottom of that dialog followed by clicking on hierarchical, head down 
to Headings and choose Title underneath.


My other option is to click on one of the icons at the top of the Styles 
 Formatting dialog and then click back to the Paragraph icon, at which 
point it displays an extended list of styles, perhaps 100... and if I 
scroll down that list nearly to the bottom Title is listed and I can 
select it.


Once I select Title it gets added to the first dropdown box I mentioned 
(top left) and from then on for the life of that session I can select 
Title from that drop down box.


Whenever I open a new document, I have to start that process all over 
again.  Considering that I pretty much always use Title, I'd like to 
know if there's a way to make it stay in that dropdown box between 
sessions (i.e. forever).


Thank you in advance.

LO 3.5.5.3

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Default style list

2012-08-01 Thread Dan

Andrew Brager wrote:


Most of the time when I create a new document I want to set the Title style on 
the first
line/paragraph.  So, I go to the little dropdown box at the top on the left, 
where
common styles are selected (what I'm calling the default style selection 
list - for
lack of a better known alternative) and Title is not there.  So, I click on 
more
This brings up the Styles  Formatting dialog with 20 (Paragraph) styles 
listed.  None of
them are Title.

 From there, I have a choice, I can click on the drop down menu at the bottom 
of that
dialog followed by clicking on hierarchical, head down to Headings and choose 
Title
underneath.

My other option is to click on one of the icons at the top of the Styles  
Formatting
dialog and then click back to the Paragraph icon, at which point it displays an 
extended
list of styles, perhaps 100... and if I scroll down that list nearly to the 
bottom Title
is listed and I can select it.

Once I select Title it gets added to the first dropdown box I mentioned (top 
left) and
from then on for the life of that session I can select Title from that drop 
down box.

Whenever I open a new document, I have to start that process all over again.  
Considering
that I pretty much always use Title, I'd like to know if there's a way to make 
it stay in
that dropdown box between sessions (i.e. forever).

Thank you in advance.

LO 3.5.5.3


 I think your subject points to what you want: the term Default. You need a default 
template with the styles you use regularly.
  What you need to do is to create a Writer document with the styles that you want to 
use. You will need to use an empty line for each paragraph style you want and apply a 
style on each line.
 You also need to look at Tools  Options  LibreOffice  Paths. There Templates has 
two paths listed separated by a semi-colon. The latter is the path where you want to save 
your document as a template.
 Then save the document as a template using the second template path. (*.ott This is one 
of the formats available when saving a file.)
 File  Templates  Organize Templates. Double click the My Templates folder to open 
it. Your template should appear under My Templates folder. If not, right click My 
Templates and select, Import Templates. Browse to where you saved your template, and 
select it. Now it should be visible. Now, right click your template. Select Set as 
Default. Close LO. Any time you open Writer, you will be using the template you have just 
created. Title will be available all the time.


--Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] insufficient user rights if I change the filename

2012-08-01 Thread Brian Barker

At 08:09 01/08/2012 -0500, Anne Noname wrote:
if that was the reason for 'save' then it would save in the same 
folder, rather than some temp [?] folder with some strange name 
where it's not findable  ;-)


No application does that.  Save in any application will save the 
revised document over the existing file - in the same folder.  If the 
document has not been saved, Save will give you the Save As 
functionality instead, landing you initially in whatever default 
folder you have configured (or some default if you haven't).


What you may be doing is opening attachments from received e-mail 
messages.  Such a document will not so far have been saved by you on 
your system, so it may indeed be held in some difficult-to-find 
temporary folder and Save will save your carefully edited version 
in a folder which will be confusing and hard to find.  But the 
solution is simple, of course: you should save the document where you 
want it to reside before you start editing.  Then Save will do 
exactly what you need and expect.


I think this same un-findable folder is used for saving when the 
program auto-saves; ...


No: that will be a different place!  The first folder is governed by 
your e-mail application, but this one by LibreOffice.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Forcing a paragraph onto odd numbered pages

2012-08-01 Thread Brian Barker

At 09:47 01/08/2012 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
I do this with page styles. I have a style called 
chapter_first_page, which is always a left page.


Is it worth mentioning that this is the opposite of the usual 
convention?  In left-to-right languages, if any convention is 
followed, it is that chapters are made to start on a recto - a 
right-hand, odd-numbered page.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Forcing a paragraph onto odd numbered pages

2012-08-01 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 08/01/2012 10:48 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 09:47 01/08/2012 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
I do this with page styles. I have a style called 
chapter_first_page, which is always a left page.


Is it worth mentioning that this is the opposite of the usual 
convention?  In left-to-right languages, if any convention is 
followed, it is that chapters are made to start on a recto - a 
right-hand, odd-numbered page.


Brian Barker



Yes, of course :-)

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