[libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
NoOp wrote apache.incubator.ooo.user and documentfoundation.discuss are probably better. Actually I think this would fit better on the Discuss forum. It's not an OpenOffice problem only if you bothered to read the article. It is a bit worrying that they never updated OpenOffice or even considered LibreOffice. This is a LibreOffice problem indeed that it doesn't have the public projection for a city council to even consider it... Especially because LibreOffice is Germany based... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019294.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Improper English hyphenation
It's interesting you have that problem. I have found that Apache OpenOffice does not properly hyphenate US English, but that LibreOffice does. Sorry I don't have a solution for you, but it's interesting that the problem would crop up in LibO. Virgil -Original Message- From: J. Randal Matheny Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:31 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Improper English hyphenation I've used OOo forever, and then jumped to LO, with Brazilian Portuguese and English dictionaries/hyphenation. Recently the English hyphenation has switched, apparently, to Portuguese. I've changed everything to English I can think of, have downloaded and installed the English dictionary etc., done all I know to do. Now I'm at a loss. Any ideas? I'm not so much of a newby, have even edited and published a book in OOo, doing cover and all. Thanks! -- J. Randal Matheny • http://randal.us -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Improper English hyphenation
You said that you downloaded and installed an English dictionary. Not all of the dictionaries out there have the hyphen ability. Where did you get the dictionary from? Are you sure it has the hyphenation ability? This American English extension does have the hyphen ability http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-american-english-dictionary-plus-tech-words-773407-words.oxt You will find British and Canadian versions here. http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/american-british-canadian-spelling-hyphen-thesaurus-dictionaries On 11/18/2012 07:49 AM, VA wrote: It's interesting you have that problem. I have found that Apache OpenOffice does not properly hyphenate US English, but that LibreOffice does. Sorry I don't have a solution for you, but it's interesting that the problem would crop up in LibO. Virgil -Original Message- From: J. Randal Matheny Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:31 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Improper English hyphenation I've used OOo forever, and then jumped to LO, with Brazilian Portuguese and English dictionaries/hyphenation. Recently the English hyphenation has switched, apparently, to Portuguese. I've changed everything to English I can think of, have downloaded and installed the English dictionary etc., done all I know to do. Now I'm at a loss. Any ideas? I'm not so much of a newby, have even edited and published a book in OOo, doing cover and all. Thanks! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
On 11/18/2012 04:24 AM, Pedro wrote: NoOp wrote apache.incubator.ooo.user and documentfoundation.discuss are probably better. Actually I think this would fit better on the Discuss forum. It's not an OpenOffice problem only if you bothered to read the article. If you had only bothered to *read* my response, you might have noticed: *and* *documentfoundation.discuss* Which part of that do you not understand? ... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
NoOp wrote Which part of that do you not understand? This part apache.incubator.ooo.user You are correct that I didn't notice the second option (apologies for that). I wrongly assumed it was another ooo link But redirecting a LibreOffice issue to an ooo forum doesn't make any sense. And this is a LibreOffice issue. So much so that TDF's Director bothered to answer (unfortunately in German) http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/ There are some translations in the comments. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019398.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
I hate to say it, but I think in business MS compatibility is THE paramount concern. When I was working for a large business, I used LibO only for documents I knew I didn't have to share with others. For anything that had to be used by others, I used MS Office. I realize that LibO is highly compatible with MS Office, but highly often isn't enough. In my experience there were enough incompatibilities that it just wasn't worth the hassle of trying to clean up documents sent back and forth between the two office suites. File format compatibility is far more important than similar user interfaces or command structures. I would say file compatibility is the primary reason companies keep buying MS Office. Virgil -Original Message- From: Pedro Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:25 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ? NoOp wrote Which part of that do you not understand? This part apache.incubator.ooo.user You are correct that I didn't notice the second option (apologies for that). I wrongly assumed it was another ooo link But redirecting a LibreOffice issue to an ooo forum doesn't make any sense. And this is a LibreOffice issue. So much so that TDF's Director bothered to answer (unfortunately in German) http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/ There are some translations in the comments. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019398.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.6.3.2 build on Linux fail on dictionaries and help (localize.sdf not found)
Hey, Firstly, thanks for your answer and wasting time with me. The problem is that I'm using a heavily modified NuTyX, so I can't use the binary package. And I want to build my own. (with a modified Pkgfile, the official one uses the download script to download missing packages, which I don't want to use because of connection problems) And so I can't use the RPM or the DEB either, there aren't adapted for my system, and the package manager doesn't handle them (even though I could use rpmextract and build a package this way based on the RPM, but, as you can think, it's ugly and dirty). Actually I want to compile LibreOffice on GNU/Linux. If you would wanted to only use it, I'd have found another way. Yeah but the problem occurs much earlier I can start LibreOffice. It's during the compilation, so I can't download and/or use Extension Manager and/or .oxt. And I want to include french translations and dictionaries directly in the package, or even better, build it separately in a good and clean way, because I'm french and NuTyX is a french(-only, may I affix) The link you posted may describe more or less what the official NuTyX is, but mine is at least a bit different, firstly because I use systemd instead of LFS bootscripts (even if they're also included) for exemple. So, the real answer is : No, I can't use DEB or RPM, I must build it myself from the sources. Thanks in advance for your help. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-3-6-3-2-build-on-Linux-fail-on-dictionaries-and-help-localize-sdf-not-found-tp4018811p4019409.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
I only can use Virgil's word I hate to say it but Virgil is right. File compatibility is very important in our daily business world where we need to exchange editable files within our company and also with external partners. Whenever I need to exchange files with MSO formats, I additionally attach a pdf-file or ask for pdf-file as reference. This is a reduction of productivity - I am willing to take I, but how many others? Although I am aware that it is not an easy task and requires dev work, LibO must achieve more than a high compatibility with MSO formats. I keep fingers crossed. On 2012-11-19 07:37, VA wrote: I hate to say it, but I think in business MS compatibility is THE paramount concern. When I was working for a large business, I used LibO only for documents I knew I didn't have to share with others. For anything that had to be used by others, I used MS Office. I realize that LibO is highly compatible with MS Office, but highly often isn't enough. In my experience there were enough incompatibilities that it just wasn't worth the hassle of trying to clean up documents sent back and forth between the two office suites. File format compatibility is far more important than similar user interfaces or command structures. I would say file compatibility is the primary reason companies keep buying MS Office. Virgil -Original Message- From: Pedro Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:25 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ? NoOp wrote Which part of that do you not understand? This part apache.incubator.ooo.user You are correct that I didn't notice the second option (apologies for that). I wrongly assumed it was another ooo link But redirecting a LibreOffice issue to an ooo forum doesn't make any sense. And this is a LibreOffice issue. So much so that TDF's Director bothered to answer (unfortunately in German) http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/ There are some translations in the comments. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019398.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
In practical use, I would NOT say LO (or OOo) has a high file compatibility with MS Office. Virtually every file I receive from MS Office users has some kind of problem (bullet lists almost NEVER convert correctly, at least from MSO to LO). I'm only an occasional Office suite user so I put up with it (plus I'm on a Mac), but I've never been able to convince others to use LO for this reason alone. And I mostly work with non-profits who, for several reasons, should be avid LO users. I also realize MSO, with it's market share, stands only to gain from keeping it's formatting a moving target. With that in mind, I just can't imagine how a project like LO could hope to keep up and make inroads. Wish I could help with making it work better, but I know nothing about contributing to development. Carl On 11/18/12 7:48 PM, rost52 wrote: I only can use Virgil's word I hate to say it but Virgil is right. File compatibility is very important in our daily business world where we need to exchange editable files within our company and also with external partners. Whenever I need to exchange files with MSO formats, I additionally attach a pdf-file or ask for pdf-file as reference. This is a reduction of productivity - I am willing to take I, but how many others? Although I am aware that it is not an easy task and requires dev work, LibO must achieve more than a high compatibility with MSO formats. I keep fingers crossed. On 2012-11-19 07:37, VA wrote: I hate to say it, but I think in business MS compatibility is THE paramount concern. When I was working for a large business, I used LibO only for documents I knew I didn't have to share with others. For anything that had to be used by others, I used MS Office. I realize that LibO is highly compatible with MS Office, but highly often isn't enough. In my experience there were enough incompatibilities that it just wasn't worth the hassle of trying to clean up documents sent back and forth between the two office suites. File format compatibility is far more important than similar user interfaces or command structures. I would say file compatibility is the primary reason companies keep buying MS Office. Virgil -Original Message- From: Pedro Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:25 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ? NoOp wrote Which part of that do you not understand? This part apache.incubator.ooo.user You are correct that I didn't notice the second option (apologies for that). I wrongly assumed it was another ooo link But redirecting a LibreOffice issue to an ooo forum doesn't make any sense. And this is a LibreOffice issue. So much so that TDF's Director bothered to answer (unfortunately in German) http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/ There are some translations in the comments. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019398.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Carl Paulsen 8 Hamilton Street Dover, NH 03820 (603) 749-2310 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Works for me. How shall we all get started with this? Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:54:22 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org snip I think that maybe we need to skip a comparison chart and just work on a 4 page cheat sheet guidethat new users could use to start learning how to use LO instead of MSO. Something that would give them all the needed points to get started with LO. Make one for Writer, one for Calc, one for Impress, etc., etc.. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
Like Carl. I unfortunately cannot contribute to development work. I would just like to come back to productivity and my own experience: LibO has features which are as good or better than MSO in respect to productivity. What reduces my productivity are bugs (first it takes time to find out is a bug or did I make a mistake; second bug reporting) and corrections of MSO files I receive because they open only open with errors. How can LibO make market shares against MSO? For my feeling shares can be taken with a high productivity of LibO. This can be achieved with many bugs less and full compatibility. MSO doesn' come up with a new format every week, thus our devs have a very good chance to adjust LibO to full compatibility. I am convinced that - a big part of the reasons why the City of Freiburg considers to dump OO are the above mentioned productivity issues (bugs and non-compatibility) - above sketched productivity increase would enable LibO to gain substantial market shares from MSO, - and that the required productivity increase can be released within not too much time. On 2012-11-19 12:04, Carl Paulsen wrote: In practical use, I would NOT say LO (or OOo) has a high file compatibility with MS Office. Virtually every file I receive from MS Office users has some kind of problem (bullet lists almost NEVER convert correctly, at least from MSO to LO). I'm only an occasional Office suite user so I put up with it (plus I'm on a Mac), but I've never been able to convince others to use LO for this reason alone. And I mostly work with non-profits who, for several reasons, should be avid LO users. I also realize MSO, with it's market share, stands only to gain from keeping it's formatting a moving target. With that in mind, I just can't imagine how a project like LO could hope to keep up and make inroads. Wish I could help with making it work better, but I know nothing about contributing to development. Carl On 11/18/12 7:48 PM, rost52 wrote: I only can use Virgil's word I hate to say it but Virgil is right. File compatibility is very important in our daily business world where we need to exchange editable files within our company and also with external partners. Whenever I need to exchange files with MSO formats, I additionally attach a pdf-file or ask for pdf-file as reference. This is a reduction of productivity - I am willing to take I, but how many others? Although I am aware that it is not an easy task and requires dev work, LibO must achieve more than a high compatibility with MSO formats. I keep fingers crossed. On 2012-11-19 07:37, VA wrote: I hate to say it, but I think in business MS compatibility is THE paramount concern. When I was working for a large business, I used LibO only for documents I knew I didn't have to share with others. For anything that had to be used by others, I used MS Office. I realize that LibO is highly compatible with MS Office, but highly often isn't enough. In my experience there were enough incompatibilities that it just wasn't worth the hassle of trying to clean up documents sent back and forth between the two office suites. File format compatibility is far more important than similar user interfaces or command structures. I would say file compatibility is the primary reason companies keep buying MS Office. Virgil -Original Message- From: Pedro Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:25 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ? NoOp wrote Which part of that do you not understand? This part apache.incubator.ooo.user You are correct that I didn't notice the second option (apologies for that). I wrongly assumed it was another ooo link But redirecting a LibreOffice issue to an ooo forum doesn't make any sense. And this is a LibreOffice issue. So much so that TDF's Director bothered to answer (unfortunately in German) http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/ There are some translations in the comments. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019398.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
