[libreoffice-users] Variables in Libre Office
Hi All Very interesting article on using variables in LO that I just came across. Worth a read http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/three-great-ways-to-use-variables-in-libreoffice-and-openoffice/4446?tag=nl.e101s_cid=e101ttag=e101ftag= IanW Pretoria RSA -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
All, I am working on a research paper. The required page layout puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin. It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside the right margin and closer to the top of the page. http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html How can this be done in LO Writer? Thanks, -Bill -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Libreoffice 4.0.4 OS X - Gatekeeper - missing Developer Signature
Le 23/06/13 11:37, Volker Guelke a écrit : Hi Volke, There has been an update of the DMG files to the server, so the download should now contain a signed app. Haven't tried it though. LO 4.0.4 doesn't interest me personally for various problems that it has with databases, so I am holding off on installing it. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Runtime Error 57 when using Open
Supplement ... This minimal example throws the described error at me: ---8--- Dim oSheet As Object Dim iNumber As Integer outFile = C:\test.xml iNumber = Freefile Open outFile For Output As #iNumber write #iNumber, oSheet.getCellByPosition(0,0).String ---8--- Regards Frederik On 26 June 2013 11:12, Frederik Schwarzer schwar...@kde.org wrote: Hi, I am trying to write something to a file when I press a button (first-time LO Basic usere here :)). There I had problems when using Open. A message box appears telling me that there was a runtime error: Geräte-E/A-Fehler (German for something like Device I/O Error). Strange thing is that I also get this error when just copying the example from LO Help. Any idea where to look for the cause of the problem? Version is 4.0.4.2. Thanks and regards Frederik -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Runtime Error 57 when using Open
Hi, I am trying to write something to a file when I press a button (first-time LO Basic usere here :)). There I had problems when using Open. A message box appears telling me that there was a runtime error: Geräte-E/A-Fehler (German for something like Device I/O Error). Strange thing is that I also get this error when just copying the example from LO Help. Any idea where to look for the cause of the problem? Version is 4.0.4.2. Thanks and regards Frederik -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Runtime Error 57 when using Open
Hi, On 26 June 2013 13:17, Fernand Vanrie wrote: Frederik Schwarzer wrote: There I had problems when using Open. A message box appears telling me that there was a runtime error: Geräte-E/A-Fehler (German for something like Device I/O Error). is a problem when opening or saving a file ( no file or no rights...) give me the code i can have a closer look you are right. When using the user's standard path C:\Users\MyUser\test.xml, it works fine. Sub Export Dim oSheet As Object Dim iNumber As Integer Dim outFile As String oSheet = ThisComponent.CurrentController.ActiveSheet outFile = C:\Users\MyUser\test.xml iNumber = Freefile Open outFile For Output As #iNumber write #iNumber, oSheet.getCellByPosition(0,0).String End Sub Thanks for that hint. :) Regards Frederik On 26 June 2013 13:17, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote: Frederik Schwarzer wrote: Hi, I am trying to write something to a file when I press a button (first-time LO Basic usere here :)). There I had problems when using Open. A message box appears telling me that there was a runtime error: Geräte-E/A-Fehler (German for something like Device I/O Error). is a problem when opening or saving a file ( no file or no rights...) give me the code i can have a closer look Strange thing is that I also get this error when just copying the example from LO Help. Any idea where to look for the cause of the problem? Version is 4.0.4.2. Thanks and regards Frederik -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
William, Your document would use page styles. The page style for the first page would not have any headers. Then the page style for the subsequent pages would have a header. You can then format the lines (paragraphs) within the header to any left and right margin you would like. (To have margins extend beyond the normal page margin, use negative numbers in your paragraph indent settings.) To get to the page styles, make sure you're styles list is showing (press F11 if it isn't). Then, at the top of the list are icons for (from left to right) paragraph styles, character styles, frame styles, and then page styles (it looks like a sheet of paper). Click on that icon to see a list of the page styles available for your document. You can then right click on any one of them to modify them or create new ones. At this point, it would be best for you to experiment with the page styles yourself, creating new ones or modifying existing ones to get the result that you want. Take careful note of the option on the organizer tab for next style as it will show what page style will be used for the following page. Sometimes this can cause some frustration. Also, there is an option in the header tab to set left and right margins. It may not allow negative margin settings here (I just tried it and it ignored me), so you may need to set negative margins at the paragraph indent level rather than the header margin level. It's all about learning to use styles, paragraph styles for paragraph level formatting and page styles for page level formatting. It's a pain to learn, and while you're learning you want to cuss out the LO developers, but once you learn it, you'll bless them as you'll be able to make your documents sing. The only way I know to learn is to experiment and play with them, creating your own styles along the way. I know its frustrating when all you want to do is finish the current project, but the more you learn now, the more you'll be able to apply to future projects to make your work so much quicker, automated, and consistent. It really is worth the effort. What I find most interesting is the dark ages style of formatting papers that you've been handed, with paragraph indents measured in spaces and lines in terms of single double and triple spacing. Is this an Underwood we're using or a computer? As long as we remain entrenched in a typewriter mentality (even though many of us have never typed a single letter on a typewriter), we will never learn the advanced capabilities of our computers, which act more like printing presses than typewriters. Virgil -Original Message- From: William Drago Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:01 AM To: LibreOffice List Subject: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin All, I am working on a research paper. The required page layout puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin. It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside the right margin and closer to the top of the page. http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html How can this be done in LO Writer? Thanks, -Bill -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.4win32 download link hacked or problems
On 06/25/2013 03:07 PM, J Weaver wrote: Today, I downloaded libreoffice4.0.4.win32.exe twice. The first time I used the big download link from the libroffice.org webpage (which first linked to the donation page). I couldn't find the md5 hash on the libreoffice.org website, though I eventually found the md5 hash for the experimental 64bit version (and downloaded it and found the checksum matched that new download). So I googled to the 32 bit version hash, and found links which all gave a very different checksum beginning f21..., although the download from the libreoffice.org website said it completed and gave a checksum of 3645B0ACFD2E6A7CA380804723D0C94A. Turns out the download through somthing like nexxus was less than 2 mb. I of course deleted the file as possible malware, but thought you should know. And suggest that checksums be made available easily on the libreoffice.org for 32bit versions, not just experimental or 64bit versions. Freeware sites are often targets for malware, as I found out long ago downloading xbmc. The file name should be LibreOffice_4.0.4_Win_x86.msi not libreoffice4.0.4.win32.exe. Here is a direct link http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Win_x86.msi I tend to download the files from this page. http://www.libreoffice.org/download-more/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Horizontal lines (rules) disappeared from Insert menu
I have to insert a horizontal rule to separate document content - but the horizontal rule disappeared from menu. I checked in Help file and it should go like this: Insert Horizontal rule ( plain), but there is no Horizontal rule under Insert menu. Probably doing something wrong... Debian Squeeze, LO 4.0.4.2 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Horizontal lines (rules) disappeared from Insert menu
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Krunoslav Šebetić kruno0...@gmail.comwrote: I have to insert a horizontal rule to separate document content - but the horizontal rule disappeared from menu. I checked in Help file and it should go like this: Insert Horizontal rule ( plain), but there is no Horizontal rule under Insert menu. Probably doing something wrong... Debian Squeeze, LO 4.0.4.2 No, the command is missing in 4.0.4. Instead, just type ---enter John snip -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Horizontal lines (rules) disappeared from Insert menu
The Insert -- Horizontal Rule feature was removed at the 4.0.0 release, including its gallery of graphics objects. And it was not replaced. There is an active bug fdo#60858 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60858 , and discussion in the UX-Advise http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/How-to-provide-horizontal-rule-paragraph-separators-tt4061353.html functional design forum. For now, working in Writer, only capability is the manual insertion of a graphic as separator, or using text entry to format the paragraph style to include a paragraph boundary marking on the bottom edge. That is done, while completing a paragraph, by immediate keyboard entry of a triplet of: - (dash), _ (underscore), = (equal), * (asterisk) , ~ (tilde) or # (hash). And each will apply direct formatting creating a bottom edge border for the paragraph. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Horizontal-lines-rules-disappeared-from-Insert-menu-tp4063114p4063122.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Horizontal lines (rules) disappeared from Insert menu
On 06/26/2013 04:56 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote: The Insert -- Horizontal Rule feature was removed at the 4.0.0 release, including its gallery of graphics objects. And it was not replaced. There is an active bug fdo#60858 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60858 , and discussion in the UX-Advise http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/How-to-provide-horizontal-rule-paragraph-separators-tt4061353.html functional design forum. For now, working in Writer, only capability is the manual insertion of a graphic as separator, or using text entry to format the paragraph style to include a paragraph boundary marking on the bottom edge. That is done, while completing a paragraph, by immediate keyboard entry of a triplet of: - (dash), _ (underscore), = (equal), * (asterisk) , ~ (tilde) or # (hash). And each will apply direct formatting creating a bottom edge border for the paragraph. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Horizontal-lines-rules-disappeared-from-Insert-menu-tp4063114p4063122.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. No, the command is missing in 4.0.4. Instead, just type ---enter John Thanks for answers, should checked bugs.freedesktop.org first. I was thinking about downgrading to 3.6, but since it can be done with asterisk and dash, I'll bare with 4.0.4. Kruno -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] styles for plays?
Helen wrote:
I've volunteered to edit a one-time publication of a collection of plays.
The plays came to me
in different styles -- three of the plays came to me with all the
characters's speaking lines
centered -- the characters's names centered a line above.
Some of the writers seem to have centered the names with a centering code
-- I can
highlight the name and use the left margin code to move the name to left
margin. Others
seem to have centered by spacing over! (yes) and I have to backspace until
I get the name
to the left margin.
None used a colon after the speaker, and the publisher wants it. I've made
some progress with
Search Replace -- Search for all incidents of TOM and replace with TOM
colon space. But the
most tedious part is moving TOM from center to left and bring his speaking
lines up to begin
on the same line. Is there any way I can put these plays into a style
sheet and save this work, or
would creating the style sheet take as long as what I'm doing? I've never
used styles. And this is a one-time
job so if I have to do it all by hand, at least it's only once.
Thanks for any advice,
Helen
Not sure this is helpful ... Things are so context dependent ... Let me
preface my remarks with:
(1) send a sample file to me (off line, if you like) and I could take a
look at it and see what I might be able to do?
(2) depends on the results of step 1
And so, on to what I have thought of so far ...
First I thought Macro (which I don't do anything with, so no help there)
Second I thought gawk ... and I played with that with some degree of
success ...
Steps:
(1) save document as (plain) txt (no encoding)
(2) in a terminal window, apply this command to the *.txt file ...
awk '{gsub(/^[ \t]+|[ \t]+$/,)};1' filename.txt newfilename.txt
... this removes all leading (and trailing) white space, and everything
is left justified. It takes out spaces, tabs, and centering, and the
result would look like this ...
Tom
said one
Tom
said two
Tom
said three
... and LibreOffice can open and edit the new *.txt file.
That doesn't get the speaker's line adjoined or insert the necessary :
either, but depending upon context something might be made to do the job?
Regards
Fred James
PS: credit where credit is due: I found that little one-liner at
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
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[libreoffice-users] Re: styles for plays?
Helen, Interesting issue. The manual centering is simply multiple tabs ,\t, or multiple space characters. Replace the multiple occurrences with nothing to remove it and bring all text to left margin. Get all the formatting removed so you are left with just the text. The key to your effort is to remove the direct styling from the text, and apply document wide styling to paragraphs. Choose from existing styles, or create new style sto apply against paragraphs, fonts, pages of each play as you'd like. If you are comfortable extracting the XML text component--content.xml-- from the .odt container you can flush it through the stream editor--sed. Or gawk, or perl, or python, etc. to make editing corrections (removing white space and joining actor to their lines with a colon). Then return the edited content.xml back to the .odt container, and then apply consistent styles from LibreOffice. However, working within Writer--you can accomplish much of the text clean up using the find-replace GUI widget. Open the + other options panel, and select the regular expression checkbox. LibreOffice regular expressions are described here: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/List_of_Regular_Expressions with a bit more detailed instruction here (panels are a bit different between LibreOffice and OpenOffice): http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Regular_Expressions_in_Writer The other approach, would be to open the document and copy all contents out to a text file, then edit that with sed, gawk, perl or python--and insert the now consistent text into a new LibreOffice document and then apply styles to the text. Stuart -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/styles-for-plays-tp4063106p4063138.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Style Question (Similar to Helen's, for Plays)
Helen's query reminded me of one I tried to post but at the time the list server decided my mail server was a spammer (the drawbacks to shared servers). Mine's a little more complex, though. I belong to a radio theater group and often serve as director, which means I'm responsible for the scripts for those shows. There are some standard requirements for the script format, and I haven't been able to figure out how to make them happen automagically through formatting or styles. Would appreciate any help. Here is what I need: 1. Header on every page. No problem with that by itself, but see #2. 2. Every line numbered. Problem I've had here is (a) headers get the numbers, too, and (b) numbering needs to start over on each page. 3. Need a hanging indent, for spoken lines that don't fit on one physical line, but need a tab within the indent (between the line number and the text) so the character's name can be inserted. Don't remember the exact problem I've had with this, but it might not be one if item #2 can be resolved. As I say, any help would be greatly appreciated! Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
At 06:01 26/06/2013 -0400, William Drago wrote: I am working on a research paper. The required page layout puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin. It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside the right margin and closer to the top of the page. http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html Aargh! To follow that, you might want to time-travel to the previous millennium and purchase a typewriter! How can this be done in LO Writer? Fairly easily, I think. First, the page margins are the printing limits, so you need to set these wide enough to contain the extra material at the top of each page. Now insert a header, using Insert | Header, and enter the required material. Now your only problem is that you need the main text not to spread as far as your newly extended right margin. There are probably a number of ways to do that; the easiest may be to modify your paragraph style. Right-click in the text and go to Edit Paragraph Style... | Indents Spacing | Indent and set the After text value to however much you extended the right margin to accommodate your header. This will move the paragraph margin for all your text back to where you want it. (This won't work if you have applied contradictory local paragraph formatting, of course. If necessary, use Format | Default Formatting (or Ctrl+M) to remove this.) I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
Hi William, William Drago schrieb: All, I am working on a research paper. The required page layout puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin. It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside the right margin and closer to the top of the page. http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html How can this be done in LO Writer? Something, that should be repeated on each page, goes into the header or footer. If this should be beyond the right edge of the text area, you can use a negative indent of the paragraph in the header. You can use a frame anchored to the header paragraph as well. A frame has the advantage, that the position is more flexible. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Style Question (Similar to Helen's, for Plays)
Hi :) Templates? Section breaks? Getting Started Guide, Chapter 3 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Who is betting that Brian and Regina have better answers? Regards from Tom :) From: Dave Liesse dslie...@liessefamily.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013, 18:11 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Style Question (Similar to Helen's, for Plays) Helen's query reminded me of one I tried to post but at the time the list server decided my mail server was a spammer (the drawbacks to shared servers). Mine's a little more complex, though. I belong to a radio theater group and often serve as director, which means I'm responsible for the scripts for those shows. There are some standard requirements for the script format, and I haven't been able to figure out how to make them happen automagically through formatting or styles. Would appreciate any help. Here is what I need: 1. Header on every page. No problem with that by itself, but see #2. 2. Every line numbered. Problem I've had here is (a) headers get the numbers, too, and (b) numbering needs to start over on each page. 3. Need a hanging indent, for spoken lines that don't fit on one physical line, but need a tab within the indent (between the line number and the text) so the character's name can be inserted. Don't remember the exact problem I've had with this, but it might not be one if item #2 can be resolved. As I say, any help would be greatly appreciated! Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?
It has been about as week since 4.0.4 came out. All I need is the Portable versions of 4.0.4 to complete the 4.0.4 NA-DVD. Anyone have heard anything about when the portable versions might beavailable? So, right now I wait till I hear either way. I can release/upload the 4.0.4 ISO file with the 4.0.3 portable versions. I have done so in the past having the new Win/Mac/Linux installs with an older version of the portable installs. In the past, the Portable group have skipped a version or two, due to whatever issues with their time or working schedules. I just would like to get the NA-DVD ISO file uploaded soon to the LO system so it can be listed in the DVD download page[s]. Tim L. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] styles for plays?
At 09:46 26/06/2013 -0400, Helen Etters wrote: I've volunteered to edit a one-time publication of a collection of plays. The plays came to me in different styles -- three of the plays came to me with all the characters's speaking lines centered -- the characters's names centered a line above. Some of the writers seem to have centered the names with a centering code -- I can highlight the name and use the left margin code to move the name to left margin. Others seem to have centered by spacing over! (yes) and I have to backspace until I get the name to the left margin. None used a colon after the speaker, and the publisher wants it. I've made some progress with Search Replace -- Search for all incidents of TOM and replace with TOM colon space. But the most tedious part is moving TOM from center to left and bring his speaking lines up to begin on the same line. Is there any way I can put these plays into a style sheet and save this work, or would creating the style sheet take as long as what I'm doing? I've never used styles. And this is a one-time job so if I have to do it all by hand, at least it's only once. In situations like this, it's very often easiest to lose all the existing formatting and insert your own from scratch - rather than trying to tinker with what you have. That's very easy to do: just use Edit | Paste Special... (or right-click | Paste Special... or Ctrl+Shift+V) instead of ordinary Paste, selecting Unformatted text from the options in the Paste Special dialogue, when inserting your material. Since you will already have done some work on the text, you can do this from where you currently are by selecting your entire document text, copying it, and pasting it Unformatted either back over the original or else into a new document. (I'd suggest a new document, as you might well want to go back and look at how the original material *was* formatted, in fact.) Then you need to learn a few tricks to tidy things up. You don't need to backspace over a number of spaces. Put the cursor at the start of the line (paragraph, in fact). Press Ctrl+Shift+right arrow. This will select the range of spaces. Now press Delete to remove them. You can also use Find Replace to replace space-space with space. Keep repeating that until there are no more double spaces and you will be close to what you need. (It is seldom useful to have consecutive spaces in any word-processed document.) Better still, use Find Replace to replace ^ + (that's circumflex-space-plus sign) with nothing, having clicked More Options and ticked Regular expressions. This will remove all spaces from the start of any paragraph (which is what your relevant lines will presumably be). Perversely, there appears to be no easy way to merge TOM: with the next paragraph (or if there is, I've managed to forget it): you might be left with doing this manually. Yes, you can create styles to do some of this, but you would still have to apply the styles to the relevant parts of the text. They would be more useful if, say, you wanted character names to be a different font, size, or style - or perhaps all of these - from the surrounding text. Using a character style to set these would be a benefit in various ways: it would be quicker, it would be more reliable at ensuring all the text was treated in the same way, and it would enable you to change your selected settings later at a stroke. And yes: you could import such styles into any new document in the future or put them in an appropriate template. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Style Question (Similar to Helen's, for Plays)
At 10:11 26/06/2013 -0700, Dave Liesse wrote: I belong to a radio theater group and often serve as director, which means I'm responsible for the scripts for those shows. There are some standard requirements for the script format, and I haven't been able to figure out how to make them happen automagically through formatting or styles. Would appreciate any help. Here is what I need: 1. Header on every page. No problem with that by itself, but see #2. 2. Every line numbered. Problem I've had here is (a) headers get the numbers, too, ... I'm puzzled. Are you using Insert | Header to create a real header? If so, I don't see that the header is included in line numbering. ... and (b) numbering needs to start over on each page. o Go to Tools | Line Numbering... and tick Show numbering. o At the bottom, tick Restart every new page. 3. Need a hanging indent, for spoken lines that don't fit on one physical line, but need a tab within the indent (between the line number and the text) so the character's name can be inserted. o Go to right-click | Edit Paragraph Style... | Indents Spacing | Indent. o Set Before text to some suitable positive value. o Set First line to the corresponding negative value. For each speech, type the character name, press Tab, and then type the speech text. The Tab character will move the start of the text to the indented paragraph boundary. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] styles for plays?
On 2013-06-27 03:13, Fred James wrote:
Helen wrote:
I've volunteered to edit a one-time publication of a collection of
plays.
The plays came to me
in different styles -- three of the plays came to me with all the
characters's speaking lines
centered -- the characters's names centered a line above.
Some of the writers seem to have centered the names with a centering
code
-- I can
highlight the name and use the left margin code to move the name to
left
margin. Others
seem to have centered by spacing over! (yes) and I have to backspace
until
I get the name
to the left margin.
None used a colon after the speaker, and the publisher wants it.
I've made
some progress with
Search Replace -- Search for all incidents of TOM and replace with
TOM
colon space. But the
most tedious part is moving TOM from center to left and bring his
speaking
lines up to begin
on the same line. Is there any way I can put these plays into a style
sheet and save this work, or
would creating the style sheet take as long as what I'm doing? I've
never
used styles. And this is a one-time
job so if I have to do it all by hand, at least it's only once.
Thanks for any advice,
Helen
Not sure this is helpful ... Things are so context dependent ... Let
me preface my remarks with:
(1) send a sample file to me (off line, if you like) and I could take
a look at it and see what I might be able to do?
(2) depends on the results of step 1
And so, on to what I have thought of so far ...
First I thought Macro (which I don't do anything with, so no help
there)
Second I thought gawk ... and I played with that with some degree of
success ...
Steps:
(1) save document as (plain) txt (no encoding)
(2) in a terminal window, apply this command to the *.txt file ...
awk '{gsub(/^[ \t]+|[ \t]+$/,)};1' filename.txt newfilename.txt
... this removes all leading (and trailing) white space, and
everything is left justified. It takes out spaces, tabs, and
centering, and the result would look like this ...
Tom
said one
Tom
said two
Tom
said three
... and LibreOffice can open and edit the new *.txt file.
That doesn't get the speaker's line adjoined or insert the necessary
: either, but depending upon context something might be made to do the
job?
Regards
Fred James
PS: credit where credit is due: I found that little one-liner at
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Hi.
I think you are almost there. You just need to do a substitution if you
have the actors names.
Substitute Tom: for Tom\n
I think you can perform substitution or transliteration on a list but
can't just locate the syntax
Something like /(Tom\n)(Burt\n)(Joan\n)/(Tom:)(Burt:)(Joan:)/
Steve
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: styles for plays?
Stuart, Fred, Brian, Steve -- thank you for great ideas. I've learned a lot of useful things that I'll make notes on here. Thanks! On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.eduwrote: Helen, Interesting issue. The manual centering is simply multiple tabs ,\t, or multiple space characters. Replace the multiple occurrences with nothing to remove it and bring all text to left margin. Get all the formatting removed so you are left with just the text. The key to your effort is to remove the direct styling from the text, and apply document wide styling to paragraphs. Choose from existing styles, or create new style sto apply against paragraphs, fonts, pages of each play as you'd like. If you are comfortable extracting the XML text component--content.xml-- from the .odt container you can flush it through the stream editor--sed. Or gawk, or perl, or python, etc. to make editing corrections (removing white space and joining actor to their lines with a colon). Then return the edited content.xml back to the .odt container, and then apply consistent styles from LibreOffice. However, working within Writer--you can accomplish much of the text clean up using the find-replace GUI widget. Open the + other options panel, and select the regular expression checkbox. LibreOffice regular expressions are described here: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/List_of_Regular_Expressions with a bit more detailed instruction here (panels are a bit different between LibreOffice and OpenOffice): http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Regular_Expressions_in_Writer The other approach, would be to open the document and copy all contents out to a text file, then edit that with sed, gawk, perl or python--and insert the now consistent text into a new LibreOffice document and then apply styles to the text. Stuart -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/styles-for-plays-tp4063106p4063138.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Style Question (Similar to Helen's, for Plays)
On 6/26/2013 11:10, Brian Barker wrote: At 10:11 26/06/2013 -0700, Dave Liesse wrote: I belong to a radio theater group and often serve as director, which means I'm responsible for the scripts for those shows. There are some standard requirements for the script format, and I haven't been able to figure out how to make them happen automagically through formatting or styles. Would appreciate any help. Here is what I need: 1. Header on every page. No problem with that by itself, but see #2. 2. Every line numbered. Problem I've had here is (a) headers get the numbers, too, ... I'm puzzled. Are you using Insert | Header to create a real header? If so, I don't see that the header is included in line numbering. That was a few versions of LO ago, so it might have been a version-specific glitch. But yes, that's how I did it. ... and (b) numbering needs to start over on each page. o Go to Tools | Line Numbering... and tick Show numbering. o At the bottom, tick Restart every new page. Thanks for this one. I'm so used to turning numbering on with the icon that I didn't even think to look for a menu item to give me more options (I don't recall seeing the toolbar in the past, either, which also has this option). Separate question about formatting the numbers, though. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious, but I can't find anyplace to (a) eliminate the indent on the number, and (b) eliminate the period that follows. Best guess I have is that it's a combination of character and paragraph styles, but haven't found the magic combination, yet. All I want is a number flush with the left margin, no punctuation. 3. Need a hanging indent, for spoken lines that don't fit on one physical line, but need a tab within the indent (between the line number and the text) so the character's name can be inserted. o Go to right-click | Edit Paragraph Style... | Indents Spacing | Indent. o Set Before text to some suitable positive value. o Set First line to the corresponding negative value. For each speech, type the character name, press Tab, and then type the speech text. The Tab character will move the start of the text to the indented paragraph boundary. I overlooked the obvious here -- put a tab character in the indent section, so in theory that's where typing will begin after the auto-number is followed by a tab character. Just need to figure out the previous issue, now. I trust this helps. Everything helps -- we all need reminders now and then, and anything new is gravy! Brian Barker Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Style Question (Similar to Helen's, for Plays)
Disregard my comments about the number formatting. I just learned the difference between line numbering and outline numbering! Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Documentation of the architecture
I'd like to familiarize myself with the architecture and design of LibreOffice. I cannot find this type of documentation for LibreOffice. Might you indicate me like obtain it? Regards Nuria CV -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?
Hi Tim, all In my opinion TDF got a bad deal with the PortableApps people... They only create the versions they feel like and they drop a branch the minute a new release is out from a newer branch. Even worse: they don't listen to requests (maybe they don't have the manpower but they aren't interested in voluntaries either...). The guys at WinPenPack create a new portable versions at the same pace as the regular LO. And they missed version 3.6.6 but listened to my request on their Forum. For someone working on QA it is essential to have the final version on each branch. WinPenPack has all of them. Another advantage is that you can run all versions simultaneously (if you wish). The PortableApps version can not be executed while the installed version is running (I can't remember if it even runs when another portable version is running). Finally the WinPenPack binaries seem to be somewhat optimized because they run faster on slow computers (like my netbook). Conclusion: I highly recommend X-LibreOffice ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/files/X-LibreOffice/releases/ BTW X-LibreOffice version 4.0.4 is available since June 19th... Just my 2 cents ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/any-word-about-4-0-4-portable-coming-out-tp4063162p4063198.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Documentation of the architecture
Hi Nuria On 26/06/2013 at 23:21, Nuria Cotelo Varela nuriacotelovar...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to familiarize myself with the architecture and design of LibreOffice. I cannot find this type of documentation for LibreOffice. Might you indicate me like obtain it? Well, this is user support mailing list and most of use have very limited knowledge of programming. I believe you would be better off asking at developers mailing list. Here are all necessary details: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?
Well, I do not really agree with the bad deal. They need to spend their time converting the Windows version to the portable version. It takes some time. So they pick and choose which version they will send their time on. LO 3.6.7 comes out soon, but they will not make that version, since the 4.0.x line is out. When 4.1.x line comes out, they will be moving to that and not work any more on the previous line. Sure, there are other portable software groups, but I only have dealt with the PortableApps group, since TDF deals with them. If another group starts making a good version for LO, then maybe the Board might want to look at them as well. For me, I just go with the current version that TDF/LO are listing on the download pages. Why would you want to run a portable version of LO when you have one installed? As for versions that are optimized for slower systems, well anyone who can deal with the compile/make process from the source code to binaries, can do some basic optimizing to a specific system. Sometimes it take a lot more. Raspberry Pi developers have optimized LO to run better on their system than the standard 32-bit Debian install. If you really think that TDF should look at the other portable app groups, then you need to bring it up to one of the Board members - and off the User list. These types of discussions work best on the Discuss List or some other list instead of the User list. On 06/26/2013 06:52 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Tim, all In my opinion TDF got a bad deal with the PortableApps people... They only create the versions they feel like and they drop a branch the minute a new release is out from a newer branch. Even worse: they don't listen to requests (maybe they don't have the manpower but they aren't interested in voluntaries either...). The guys at WinPenPack create a new portable versions at the same pace as the regular LO. And they missed version 3.6.6 but listened to my request on their Forum. For someone working on QA it is essential to have the final version on each branch. WinPenPack has all of them. Another advantage is that you can run all versions simultaneously (if you wish). The PortableApps version can not be executed while the installed version is running (I can't remember if it even runs when another portable version is running). Finally the WinPenPack binaries seem to be somewhat optimized because they run faster on slow computers (like my netbook). Conclusion: I highly recommend X-LibreOffice ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/files/X-LibreOffice/releases/ BTW X-LibreOffice version 4.0.4 is available since June 19th... Just my 2 cents ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/any-word-about-4-0-4-portable-coming-out-tp4063162p4063198.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?
This question makes me wonder, just why there are so many LO versions and frequent new releases. I can't keep up, and I find myself torn about upgrading. I want the latest and greatest, but I've had problems with newer versions resurrecting old bugs. I'm sure there's an overriding philosophy that has been adopted, but I wonder if we might be better served with fewer new releases. Apache seems to have taken quite the opposite approach with no new releases of AOO since its 3.4.1. Perhaps something somewhere between the two extremes might be nice. Virgil -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:19 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out? Well, I do not really agree with the bad deal. They need to spend their time converting the Windows version to the portable version. It takes some time. So they pick and choose which version they will send their time on. LO 3.6.7 comes out soon, but they will not make that version, since the 4.0.x line is out. When 4.1.x line comes out, they will be moving to that and not work any more on the previous line. Sure, there are other portable software groups, but I only have dealt with the PortableApps group, since TDF deals with them. If another group starts making a good version for LO, then maybe the Board might want to look at them as well. For me, I just go with the current version that TDF/LO are listing on the download pages. Why would you want to run a portable version of LO when you have one installed? As for versions that are optimized for slower systems, well anyone who can deal with the compile/make process from the source code to binaries, can do some basic optimizing to a specific system. Sometimes it take a lot more. Raspberry Pi developers have optimized LO to run better on their system than the standard 32-bit Debian install. If you really think that TDF should look at the other portable app groups, then you need to bring it up to one of the Board members - and off the User list. These types of discussions work best on the Discuss List or some other list instead of the User list. On 06/26/2013 06:52 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Tim, all In my opinion TDF got a bad deal with the PortableApps people... They only create the versions they feel like and they drop a branch the minute a new release is out from a newer branch. Even worse: they don't listen to requests (maybe they don't have the manpower but they aren't interested in voluntaries either...). The guys at WinPenPack create a new portable versions at the same pace as the regular LO. And they missed version 3.6.6 but listened to my request on their Forum. For someone working on QA it is essential to have the final version on each branch. WinPenPack has all of them. Another advantage is that you can run all versions simultaneously (if you wish). The PortableApps version can not be executed while the installed version is running (I can't remember if it even runs when another portable version is running). Finally the WinPenPack binaries seem to be somewhat optimized because they run faster on slow computers (like my netbook). Conclusion: I highly recommend X-LibreOffice ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/files/X-LibreOffice/releases/ BTW X-LibreOffice version 4.0.4 is available since June 19th... Just my 2 cents ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/any-word-about-4-0-4-portable-coming-out-tp4063162p4063198.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
Hi Virgil, Thank you for the detailed reply. I've been meaning to learn how to use styles, so I'll give this a try. Regards, -Bill On 6/26/2013 7:55 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: William, Your document would use page styles. The page style for the first page would not have any headers. Then the page style for the subsequent pages would have a header. You can then format the lines (paragraphs) within the header to any left and right margin you would like. (To have margins extend beyond the normal page margin, use negative numbers in your paragraph indent settings.) To get to the page styles, make sure you're styles list is showing (press F11 if it isn't). Then, at the top of the list are icons for (from left to right) paragraph styles, character styles, frame styles, and then page styles (it looks like a sheet of paper). Click on that icon to see a list of the page styles available for your document. You can then right click on any one of them to modify them or create new ones. At this point, it would be best for you to experiment with the page styles yourself, creating new ones or modifying existing ones to get the result that you want. Take careful note of the option on the organizer tab for next style as it will show what page style will be used for the following page. Sometimes this can cause some frustration. Also, there is an option in the header tab to set left and right margins. It may not allow negative margin settings here (I just tried it and it ignored me), so you may need to set negative margins at the paragraph indent level rather than the header margin level. It's all about learning to use styles, paragraph styles for paragraph level formatting and page styles for page level formatting. It's a pain to learn, and while you're learning you want to cuss out the LO developers, but once you learn it, you'll bless them as you'll be able to make your documents sing. The only way I know to learn is to experiment and play with them, creating your own styles along the way. I know its frustrating when all you want to do is finish the current project, but the more you learn now, the more you'll be able to apply to future projects to make your work so much quicker, automated, and consistent. It really is worth the effort. What I find most interesting is the dark ages style of formatting papers that you've been handed, with paragraph indents measured in spaces and lines in terms of single double and triple spacing. Is this an Underwood we're using or a computer? As long as we remain entrenched in a typewriter mentality (even though many of us have never typed a single letter on a typewriter), we will never learn the advanced capabilities of our computers, which act more like printing presses than typewriters. Virgil -Original Message- From: William Drago Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:01 AM To: LibreOffice List Subject: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin All, I am working on a research paper. The required page layout puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin. It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside the right margin and closer to the top of the page. http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html How can this be done in LO Writer? Thanks, -Bill -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
Well, I provided a bad example. What I'm being asked to do is pretty close to the latest format from MLA. The only difference is that outside the margin thing. I don't know where that's from, but that's what I have to do. If I can't get styles to work, I'll try your technique. Thanks, -Bill On 6/26/2013 1:19 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 06:01 26/06/2013 -0400, William Drago wrote: I am working on a research paper. The required page layout puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin. It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside the right margin and closer to the top of the page. http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html Aargh! To follow that, you might want to time-travel to the previous millennium and purchase a typewriter! How can this be done in LO Writer? Fairly easily, I think. First, the page margins are the printing limits, so you need to set these wide enough to contain the extra material at the top of each page. Now insert a header, using Insert | Header, and enter the required material. Now your only problem is that you need the main text not to spread as far as your newly extended right margin. There are probably a number of ways to do that; the easiest may be to modify your paragraph style. Right-click in the text and go to Edit Paragraph Style... | Indents Spacing | Indent and set the After text value to however much you extended the right margin to accommodate your header. This will move the paragraph margin for all your text back to where you want it. (This won't work if you have applied contradictory local paragraph formatting, of course. If necessary, use Format | Default Formatting (or Ctrl+M) to remove this.) I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
At 21:16 26/06/2013 -0400, William Drago wrote: What I'm being asked to do is pretty close to the latest format from MLA. The only difference is that outside the margin thing. I don't know where that's from, but that's what I have to do. If I can't get styles to work, I'll try your technique. Actually, Regina Henschel's answer, sent after mine, is (not unusually) better than mine. o Leave your main text alone, set up as you normally would. o Create a header. o Right-click in the header and select Edit Paragraph Style... | Indents Spacing and set a suitable negative value for After text. o Enter your header text and set it Align Right: it will spill over outside the page margins. Remember that your page margins need to be sufficiently narrow that the outdented header text is still within your (or your examiner's) printer's actual capabilities. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?
Hi :) +1 Well, something similar. Sometimes an entire branch goes by without my having installed and used any in it. The 3.4.x and 3.6.x passed me by almost completely. I keep meaning to join in with QA early in a branch's release-cycle but typically end up installing about half-way through. Usually around the x.x.4 which is typically where it becomes a lot more stable. Somewhat unusually I managed to get the 4.0.1 onto all the machines at work but that was very exceptional. I suspect the 4.1.0 is going to be very stable too as a lot of people have done a lot of great work in the QA competition that is still going on. Debian make the mistake of having only their old versions declared officially stable. Some other projects do something similar. It makes them feel old and stale. Ubuntu put extra effort into a big new LTS release every 2 years and makes sure there is always plenty of exciting new features, ultra latest versions of programs and some complete overhaul of something. Then for 3 years (now 5) afterwards they ensure that all bug-patches, fixes and security updates are back-ported to the LTSes. It gives corporate users confidence in the system. Regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 1:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out? This question makes me wonder, just why there are so many LO versions and frequent new releases. I can't keep up, and I find myself torn about upgrading. I want the latest and greatest, but I've had problems with newer versions resurrecting old bugs. I'm sure there's an overriding philosophy that has been adopted, but I wonder if we might be better served with fewer new releases. Apache seems to have taken quite the opposite approach with no new releases of AOO since its 3.4.1. Perhaps something somewhere between the two extremes might be nice. Virgil -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:19 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out? Well, I do not really agree with the bad deal. They need to spend their time converting the Windows version to the portable version. It takes some time. So they pick and choose which version they will send their time on. LO 3.6.7 comes out soon, but they will not make that version, since the 4.0.x line is out. When 4.1.x line comes out, they will be moving to that and not work any more on the previous line. Sure, there are other portable software groups, but I only have dealt with the PortableApps group, since TDF deals with them. If another group starts making a good version for LO, then maybe the Board might want to look at them as well. For me, I just go with the current version that TDF/LO are listing on the download pages. Why would you want to run a portable version of LO when you have one installed? As for versions that are optimized for slower systems, well anyone who can deal with the compile/make process from the source code to binaries, can do some basic optimizing to a specific system. Sometimes it take a lot more. Raspberry Pi developers have optimized LO to run better on their system than the standard 32-bit Debian install. If you really think that TDF should look at the other portable app groups, then you need to bring it up to one of the Board members - and off the User list. These types of discussions work best on the Discuss List or some other list instead of the User list. On 06/26/2013 06:52 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Tim, all In my opinion TDF got a bad deal with the PortableApps people... They only create the versions they feel like and they drop a branch the minute a new release is out from a newer branch. Even worse: they don't listen to requests (maybe they don't have the manpower but they aren't interested in voluntaries either...). The guys at WinPenPack create a new portable versions at the same pace as the regular LO. And they missed version 3.6.6 but listened to my request on their Forum. For someone working on QA it is essential to have the final version on each branch. WinPenPack has all of them. Another advantage is that you can run all versions simultaneously (if you wish). The PortableApps version can not be executed while the installed version is running (I can't remember if it even runs when another portable version is running). Finally the WinPenPack binaries seem to be somewhat optimized because they run faster on slow computers (like my netbook). Conclusion: I highly recommend X-LibreOffice ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/files/X-LibreOffice/releases/ BTW X-LibreOffice version 4.0.4 is available since June 19th... Just my 2 cents ;) -- View this message in context:
