Re: [libreoffice-users] template menu

[Virgil Arrington]

I confess that I don't understand this type of "improvement" in software 
development. It's sort of like when MS decided that users couldn’t 
understand the Windows menu structure that had been used for two decades and 
gave us the ribbon.


The LO/OO method of organizing templates has been around for...what, ten ... 
fifteen years now? If I'm not mistaken it goes all the way back to 
StarOffice. Long time users have grown accustomed to it. So, what would 
prompt someone to think it needs fixing? Was there a survey showing that a 
ton of new people would suddenly start using LO if it would only change its 
"goofy" way of organizing templates?


I know people are always resistant to change; it took me a couple years to 
abandon DOS in favor of Windows. And, over time, I may get to like the new 
template menu placement (if I ever reinstall LO 4 after going back to 
3.6.6).


But to change a working menu structure just because we can? I just don't get 
it.


Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: Tim Lloyd

Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:49 AM
To: Thomas Blasejewicz
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] template menu

Hi Thomas,

I have to admit this confused me also. I don't know whether you can
simply "organize" anymore. From the manual:

   To begin, choose *File > **New > **Templates***from the Menu bar to
   openthe Template Manager dialog.


http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/published-lo-4.0/wg4-0-ch10-templates/view

At this point you can add, modify, delete and move!

Cheers

On 07/04/2013 02:38 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good afternoon
The last few days I upgraded from 3.6 something to 4.0.4.
And this morning I noticed the "template menu" is gone.

One of my computers has still 3.6 on it and there it is under Files ->
Templates.
That's also where the extension items for the extension "template
changer" appeared.

After along search I found, that the template changer can now only be
found in an unmarked grave
= empty white space with a black triangle at its right margin BELOW File
-> Exit.

But so far I was not able to find anything like Templates -> Organize
anywhere.

Where is this now???
Or has the software advanced so far, that creating, deleting, organizing
templates etc. is now a thing of the past?

Thank you.
Thomas




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Re: [libreoffice-users] template menu

[jomali]

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

> Good afternoon
> The last few days I upgraded from 3.6 something to 4.0.4.
> And this morning I noticed the "template menu" is gone.
>
> One of my computers has still 3.6 on it and there it is under Files ->
> Templates.
> That's also where the extension items for the extension "template
> changer" appeared.
>
> After along search I found, that the template changer can now only be
> found in an unmarked grave
> = empty white space with a black triangle at its right margin BELOW File
> -> Exit.
>
> But so far I was not able to find anything like Templates -> Organize
> anywhere.
>
> Where is this now???
> Or has the software advanced so far, that creating, deleting, organizing
> templates etc. is now a thing of the past?
>
> Thank you.
> Thomas
>

 The opening screen contains a "Templates..." icon that opens the Template
Manager. I presume the developers considered the availablity of the
capability to manage templates here and in the File->New->Templates
sufficient and eliminated what they considered a redundant approach.

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[libreoffice-users] Features Request

[Δημήτριος Δεσύλλας]

Hello Iibre Ofice Community,

I would like to propose some features nad some changes that I think that 
is good to have the Libre Office. This came from comparison from MS 
Ofice and Libre Ofice that I have on my computer at work.


First of all I think to think some way to store big files quicly. I 
noticed this when I had a Huge presentation file that I use to make 
logos and the whole application went white. I know it is expected to 
take a while when storing large files but at MS Ofice when I made some 
changes on it ans stored it it took quicker than libre office. Also I 
notice when I had 2 windows of Libre Ofice Impress when I was storing 
the fine on the one and waited to stole both of windows were stuck and 
did not allowed me to do any work. I think it is a good way is to make 
some sort of sandboxing beween the windows. I mean each window of Libre 
ofice to be a seperate process so when on window of libre office Impress 
crashes to allow me to use the other window of Impress.


I also I want to know where I can post my ideas for libre ofice so it 
can be more usefull to end users. So in that way to contribute into it. 
Also I want to know how much time do libre ofice developers spend on 
improving on libre ofice and  also I want to knwo if Document foundation 
is hiring. Because I want to offer some hand to this project. And I want 
to know because when working free time is essential asnd I want to spend 
some time on contributing on this project on the future eves as 
volunteer or even better as hired developer.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.

[Girvin R. Herr]

Correct me if I am wrong and I am not that familiar with Opera, but I 
seem to remember that Opera uses the Mozilla engine, just like Firefox 
and several other open source web browsers. So, who benefited from 
Opera's battle with MS again? We, the people, all did; which is apropos 
for the day!

Girvin


Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Errr, allegedly.  I might have a few facts a bit wonky but that's the way i 
heard it
Regards form
Tom :)Â  






  


From: Tom Davies 
To: Johnny Rosenberg ; Sajan Parikh  
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 23:38

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.



Hi :)
It's good to hear people are using it more and more nowadays.  They won a good 
fight against IE and deserve the credit for many of the freedoms we have today 
to be able to choose Firefox, Chrome and others that kept themselves out of the 
 legal fight against MS but still profited from the results.  Top marks to 
anyone that does use Opera though
Regards from 
Tom :)Â  










From: Johnny Rosenberg 
To: Sajan Parikh  
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 11:32

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.


2013/7/2 Sajan Parikh :
  

Opera have also just announced recently that they will be releasing a
standalone mail client as well, with Linux support.


Then I hope they will remove the built in one from the browser to make
it less bloated. I just hate those dialogues that pop up sometimes
when I close Opera, telling me that Opera needs to do something with
my email database (which
  

 doesn't exist anyway since I only use the web
  

interfaces for my email) or whatever…



Johnny Rosenberg

  

At the time of
announcement early builds for Windows and Macs were available and Linux was
"coming soon".

I haven't checked in a couple weeks, but there might be some progress on
that.

Sajan Parikh
/Owner, Noppix LLC/

e: sa...@noppix.com
p: (563) 726-0371

Noppix LLC Logo

On 07/02/2013 06:28 AM, James Knott wrote:


wsadm...@hep-tech.com.tw wrote:
  

Hi All!
     Libreoffice will the development of mail client?
Foxmail isn't open


 source.
  

Many people use Thunderbird.

  

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I think Opera uses a completely different back-end/engine.  We, the people, did 
benefit.  Is today Bruce Springsteen's birthday or something?  I'm not in the 
US so i don't keep up with all these things.  

Regards from 

Tom :)  






>
> From: Girvin R. Herr 
>To: Tom Davies  
>Cc: Johnny Rosenberg ; Sajan Parikh 
>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
> 
>Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2013, 18:39
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.
> 
>
>Correct me if I am wrong and I am not that familiar with Opera, but I 
>seem to remember that Opera uses the Mozilla engine, just like Firefox 
>and several other open source web browsers. So, who benefited from 
>Opera's battle with MS again? We, the people, all did; which is apropos 
>for the day!
>Girvin
>
>
>Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> Errr, allegedly.  I might have a few facts a bit wonky but that's the way i 
>> heard it
>> Regards form
>> Tom :)  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Tom Davies 
>>> To: Johnny Rosenberg ; Sajan Parikh 
>>>  
>>> Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 23:38
>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi :)
>>> It's good to hear people are using it more and more nowadays.  They won a 
>>> good fight against IE and deserve the credit for many of the freedoms we 
>>> have today to be able to choose Firefox, Chrome and others that kept 
>>> themselves out of the  legal fight against MS but still profited from the 
>>> results.  Top marks to anyone that does use Opera though
>>> Regards from 
>>> Tom :)  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    
 
 From: Johnny Rosenberg 
 To: Sajan Parikh  
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 11:32
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.


 2013/7/2 Sajan Parikh :
      
> Opera have also just announced recently that they will be releasing a
> standalone mail client as well, with Linux support.
>        
 Then I hope they will remove the built in one from the browser to make
 it less bloated. I just hate those dialogues that pop up sometimes
 when I close Opera, telling me that Opera needs to do something with
 my email database (which
      
>>  doesn't exist anyway since I only use the web
>>  
 interfaces for my email) or whatever…



 Johnny Rosenberg

      
> At the time of
> announcement early builds for Windows and Macs were available and Linux 
> was
> "coming soon".
>
> I haven't checked in a couple weeks, but there might be some progress on
> that.
>
> Sajan Parikh
> /Owner, Noppix LLC/
>
> e: sa...@noppix.com
> p: (563) 726-0371
>
> Noppix LLC Logo
>
> On 07/02/2013 06:28 AM, James Knott wrote:
>        
>> wsadm...@hep-tech.com.tw wrote:
>>          
>>> Hi All!
>>>      Libreoffice will the development of mail client?
>>> Foxmail isn't open
>>>            
>>  source.
>>  
>> Many people use Thunderbird.
>>
>>          
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[libreoffice-users]

[April Preston]

 Hello, Could use some help.  A couple weeks ago my daughter opened a document 
she had saved to Microsoft Word on a flash drive.  Ever since then every time I 
open a LibreOffice document, whether a saved document or a new document, or in 
writer or math, I get a pop up window that says LibreOffice Document Recovery.  
Listed is the document my daughter opened on my computer.   I am requested to 
Start Recovery, which I do then I get a pop up that says Recovery Failed and I 
am instructed to push the finish button.  Then I am able to continue normally.  
This is really annoying.  Last tonight I downloaded LibreOffice 4 hoping the 
overwrite would end the problem, but no luck.  Can I get help to remedy this?  
Btw- My operating system is Windows 8.


Thank you,

April
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Re: [libreoffice-users]

[JOE CONNER]

On 07/04/2013 11:50 AM, April Preston wrote:

  Hello, Could use some help.  A couple weeks ago my daughter opened a document 
she had saved to Microsoft Word on a flash drive.  Ever since then every time I 
open a LibreOffice document, whether a saved document or a new document, or in 
writer or math, I get a pop up window that says LibreOffice Document Recovery.  
Listed is the document my daughter opened on my computer.   I am requested to 
Start Recovery, which I do then I get a pop up that says Recovery Failed and I 
am instructed to push the finish button.  Then I am able to continue normally.  
This is really annoying.  Last tonight I downloaded LibreOffice 4 hoping the 
overwrite would end the problem, but no luck.  Can I get help to remedy this?  
Btw- My operating system is Windows 8.


Thank you,

April
When the document recovery pops up, just disregard it and do not try to 
recover it, this is what sets up the next recovery attempt the next time 
you launch writer.  This refusal should stop the recovery cycles.


Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA 98370

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.

[Frederik Schwarzer]

Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2013, 10:39:54 schrieb Girvin R. Herr:
> Correct me if I am wrong and I am not that familiar with Opera, but I
> seem to remember that Opera uses the Mozilla engine, just like Firefox
> and several other open source web browsers.

Opera used to use their own proprietary engine and have since version 15 
switched over to some webkit thing similar to (or the same as) Chromium 
uses.

Regards


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.

[Girvin R. Herr]

I stand corrected.
In case you are not joking, today, July 4th, is our Independence Day, a 
national holiday in the US.

Maybe you Brits try to forget that day, July 4, 1776. ;-)

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(United_States)

Girvin


Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think Opera uses a completely different back-end/engine.  We, the people, did benefit.  Is today Bruce Springsteen's birthday or something?  I'm not in the US so i don't keep up with all these things.  

Regards from 

Tom :)Â  







  


From: Girvin R. Herr 
To: Tom Davies  
Cc: Johnny Rosenberg ; Sajan Parikh ; "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2013, 18:39

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.


Correct me if I am wrong and I am not that familiar with Opera, but I 
seem to remember that Opera uses the Mozilla engine, just like Firefox 
and several other open source web browsers. So, who benefited from 
Opera's battle with MS again? We, the people, all did; which is apropos 
for the day!

Girvin


Tom Davies wrote:


Hi :)
Errr, allegedly.  I might have a few facts a bit wonky but that's the way i 
heard it
Regards form
Tom :)  






  
  


From: Tom Davies 
To: Johnny Rosenberg ; Sajan Parikh  
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 23:38

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.



Hi :)
It's good to hear people are using it more and more nowadays.  They won a 
good fight against IE and deserve the credit for many of the freedoms we have 
today to be able to choose Firefox, Chrome and others that kept themselves out 
of the  legal fight against MS but still profited from the results.  Top 
marks to anyone that does use Opera though
Regards from 
Tom :)  







    



From: Johnny Rosenberg 
To: Sajan Parikh  
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013, 11:32

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.


2013/7/2 Sajan Parikh :
      
  

Opera have also just announced recently that they will be releasing a
standalone mail client as well, with Linux support.
        


Then I hope they will remove the built in one from the browser to make
it less bloated. I just hate those dialogues that pop up sometimes
when I close Opera, telling me that Opera needs to do something with
my email database (which
      
  

  doesn't exist anyway since I only use the web
  
  

interfaces for my email) or whatever…



Johnny Rosenberg

      
  

At the time of
announcement early builds for Windows and Macs were available and Linux was
"coming soon".

I haven't checked in a couple weeks, but there might be some progress on
that.

Sajan Parikh
/Owner, Noppix LLC/

e: sa...@noppix.com
p: (563) 726-0371

Noppix LLC Logo

On 07/02/2013 06:28 AM, James Knott wrote:
        


wsadm...@hep-tech.com.tw wrote:
          
  

Hi All!
     Libreoffice will the development of mail client?
Foxmail isn't open
            


  source.
  
  

Many people use Thunderbird.

          
  

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Features Request

[minhsien0330]

I had submit a feature request about the slow saving behavior long time ago
(2012.04.07) , but I don't know if any developer start doing it or not.

Maybe we need more people to push this idea?

https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48416


2013/7/5 Δημήτριος Δεσύλλας 

> Hello Iibre Ofice Community,
>
> I would like to propose some features nad some changes that I think that
> is good to have the Libre Office. This came from comparison from MS Ofice
> and Libre Ofice that I have on my computer at work.
>
> First of all I think to think some way to store big files quicly. I
> noticed this when I had a Huge presentation file that I use to make logos
> and the whole application went white. I know it is expected to take a while
> when storing large files but at MS Ofice when I made some changes on it ans
> stored it it took quicker than libre office. Also I notice when I had 2
> windows of Libre Ofice Impress when I was storing the fine on the one and
> waited to stole both of windows were stuck and did not allowed me to do any
> work. I think it is a good way is to make some sort of sandboxing beween
> the windows. I mean each window of Libre ofice to be a seperate process so
> when on window of libre office Impress crashes to allow me to use the other
> window of Impress.
>
> I also I want to know where I can post my ideas for libre ofice so it can
> be more usefull to end users. So in that way to contribute into it. Also I
> want to know how much time do libre ofice developers spend on improving on
> libre ofice and  also I want to knwo if Document foundation is hiring.
> Because I want to offer some hand to this project. And I want to know
> because when working free time is essential asnd I want to spend some time
> on contributing on this project on the future eves as volunteer or even
> better as hired developer.
>
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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Writer 4.- Where's my horizontal line?

[April Preston]

Hello,

My question may seem trivial but I am looking for the horizontal line that I 
had in the 3.6 version but cannot find in the 4. version.  It is a horizontal 
line within the header.  I understand now I am to go to Format, then Page, then 
select the Header tab, then the button that says More. When I get there I don’t 
see a choice for just a horizontal line; just outside borders and no bottom 
border.  The selection appears to be much more limited as well.  So if I want 
my horizontal line in the header back must I uninstall LibreOffice 4 and 
reinstall 3.6 or is it hidden somewhere?

Thanks much,


April Preston
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Re: [libreoffice-users]

[anne-ology]

   There are a couple of possibilities -

   have you cleaned out the cache?
if not; well, CCleaner is a top program - & free for the
individual user

   did she perchance not save it? - for whatever reason.
   if not, it's sitting in the recent document list - unsaved &
wanting to be saved  ;-)
 THEREFORE clear the recent list and/or just that document
from the list;
 to clear the list, you must go to the LO section in
the computer -
 [AppData -> Roaming -> LO -> locate recent documents]
 to clear that document, just right-click on it -> and
delete it from the list.

   Well, that's worked for me in the past -
here's hoping it will work for you as well.



On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM, April Preston wrote:

 Hello, Could use some help.  A couple weeks ago my daughter opened a
> document she had saved to Microsoft Word on a flash drive.  Ever since then
> every time I open a LibreOffice document, whether a saved document or a new
> document, or in writer or math, I get a pop up window that says LibreOffice
> Document Recovery.  Listed is the document my daughter opened on my
> computer.   I am requested to Start Recovery, which I do then I get a pop
> up that says Recovery Failed and I am instructed to push the finish button.
>  Then I am able to continue normally.  This is really annoying.  Last
> tonight I downloaded LibreOffice 4 hoping the overwrite would end the
> problem, but no luck.  Can I get help to remedy this?  Btw- My operating
> system is Windows 8.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> April
>
>

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[libreoffice-users] Triage Contest - Final Day

[Joel Madero]

Hi All,

We've reached the final day of our great contest. I have to say that the 
goal that was set was incredibly ambitious (just a reminder, 25% of 
bugs) - and guess what, WE ARE WITHIN REACH OF THIS GOAL! We're 
currently sitting at 901 bugs - I think 25% needs us down to 890. Really 
really great work everyone, hope everyone finds some time on this last 
day to get a few more bugs triaged.


I'll be out of town for the next 3-4 days so I will not be 
pariticipating this last day but really a big thank you to everyone who 
did and I hope you all continue to contribute going forward - and of 
course for anyone who didn't participate, we'd love to have you jump 
into the chat and get involved.


For those of you who haven't seen the #'s or are just interested in QA 
and what we do, feel free to take a look at the blog at: 
https://joelmadero.wordpress.com/


For all new contributors who participated in good faith (you know who 
you are ;) ) -- please send me privately your mailing address as well as 
the tshirt size which you would like me to order. Joren, Robinson and 
myself will be tallying numbers next week (might take 2 weeks or so) and 
then get the top 3 contestants + the first 10 new contributors a tshirt. 
If you weren't in the first 10, please still get me your info - I'm 
going to try to get my hands on the funds to get a couple more shirts 
together -- no promises :)



Warm Regards,
Joel

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