Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
Hi :) http://www.lasa.org.uk/aims/choosing-the-right-package/ Just under the bullet-points it claims " You can purchase AIMS Core which allows up to 15 concurrent users. This version of AIMS is available in either Access or SQL versions. " So it's a bit unclear whether the Access version is using the normal jet-engine or Microsoft SQL Server as it's back-end. Either way i think there is a potential problem at being able to run their front-end, or use another front-end, on non-MS platforms such as Android tablets, Macs, iPads. I suspect the Firebird back-end is more likely to be faster and more compatible with more platforms. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Mark LaPierre >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 23:30 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax > > >Access is no back end. As a front end it's fairly adaptable as long as >the total file size does not exceed 2 Gb. That 2 Gb limit pretty much >rules it out as a back end for anything but very light weight databases. > >On 07/17/2013 06:37 AM, Tom Davies wrote: >> Hi :) >> +1 >> to all that, especially the "Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd >> appreciate any help you can offer.". Plus, making yourself familiar with >> HsqlDb 1.8 is a good plan anyway. HsqlDb is java based but it's small and >> fast so as an external back-end it's good for most uses. >> >> My workplace is considering buying a specialist database that uses Firebird >> as a back-end so i kinda hope Base goes that way too. Unfortunately they >> have left the final purchase decision up to someone outside the organisation >> that is fairly clueless about compatibility and the alternative back-end is >> Access. >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> From: V Stuart Foote >>> To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" >>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 0:55 >>> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax >>> >>> >>> Mark, >>> >>> Hey why should you care that it is off topic, no one else seems to >>> understand the concept ;-) >>> >>> So, regards movement toward a non-Java JRE dependent default SQL DB for >>> integration with the Base component. >>> >>> Several Bugzilla items worth reviewing: >>> >>> considering and rejecting SQLite as replacement >>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811 >>> >>> find a replacement for HSQLDB v1.8 >>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51781 >>> >>> considering an update to HSQLDB v2.x >>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44854 >>> >>> move default to FireBird not HSQLDB in Base -- this is the current >>> development effort >>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51780 >>> >>> Finally, here is the Wiki based project coordination for implementing >>> FirebirdSQL >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Base/FirebirdSQL >>> >>> Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer. >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> >>> From: Mark LaPierre [marklap...@aol.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:13 PM >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax >>> >>> Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I >>> thought it might be a bit too far off topic. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >-- > _ > °v° > /(_)\ > ^ ^ Mark LaPierre >Registered Linux user No #267004 >https://linuxcounter.net/ > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
Access is no back end. As a front end it's fairly adaptable as long as the total file size does not exceed 2 Gb. That 2 Gb limit pretty much rules it out as a back end for anything but very light weight databases. On 07/17/2013 06:37 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 to all that, especially the "Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer.". Plus, making yourself familiar with HsqlDb 1.8 is a good plan anyway. HsqlDb is java based but it's small and fast so as an external back-end it's good for most uses. My workplace is considering buying a specialist database that uses Firebird as a back-end so i kinda hope Base goes that way too. Unfortunately they have left the final purchase decision up to someone outside the organisation that is fairly clueless about compatibility and the alternative back-end is Access. Regards from Tom :) From: V Stuart Foote To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 0:55 Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax Mark, Hey why should you care that it is off topic, no one else seems to understand the concept ;-) So, regards movement toward a non-Java JRE dependent default SQL DB for integration with the Base component. Several Bugzilla items worth reviewing: considering and rejecting SQLite as replacement https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811 find a replacement for HSQLDB v1.8 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51781 considering an update to HSQLDB v2.x https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44854 move default to FireBird not HSQLDB in Base -- this is the current development effort https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51780 Finally, here is the Wiki based project coordination for implementing FirebirdSQL https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Base/FirebirdSQL Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer. Stuart From: Mark LaPierre [marklap...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I thought it might be a bit too far off topic. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Português e mailing list
2013/7/17 Orlando Figueiredo > > Hi, > Does anyone know ir there is a discution group for libreoffice Portugal. > O. Take a look at the wiki page for Local Mailing Lists https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Portugu.C3.AAs ___ Escuelas Libres :: Porque la educación es mucho mejor cuando es libre www.escuelaslibres.org.ar --- Para entrenar, cualquier programa sirve. Para educar, sólo Software Libre. (Federico Heinz) --- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web
I just checked in Firefox, and the certificate for https://www.libreoffice.org has a certificate with a CN for www.libreoffice.org, so I'm not sure what the problem is... unless of course they've already fixed it. Here's the certificate. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Português e mailing list
Hi, Does anyone know ir there is a discution group for libreoffice Portugal. O. -- www.pensatempos.net orlandofigueir...@pensatempos.net www.facebook.com/Pensatempos Skype: of1967 Tel:(+351) 933 284 587 _^_ | *Seja livre, use LINUX - Be free, use LINUX* .ºvº. | *Socialmente justo - Socially fair* /(_)\ | *Economicamente viável - Economically viable* .^.^. | *Tecnologicamente sustentável - Technologically sustainable* -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Some content in ODP slide appears only in slide show view of Impress, not in normal view or PDF output
Did you add the missing items normally through LO or did you plop them in via the 'memory cache'? Sometimes, I've noticed that not doing it 'according to the LO system', this will happen - therefore I've found, even though it takes a few minutes longer than merely copying and plopping, it's quicker in the long-run by not having to re-do what I thought I'd already done ;-) Hoping this helps, BTW - attachments are not allowed on this list; you can send URLs with the data though. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Dan wrote: > > I have some ODP-format slides > which appear correctly when I view them with the [F5] slide show view in > Impress, but in which some content is missing when I view them in the > normal view, and when I export to PDF. Any ideas why this might be, and > how I can get a PDF in which all the content appears correctly, please? > > I've attached a minimal(ish) example. My apologies if attachments violate > the netiquette of this list. > > (BTW, this is all happening in LibreOffice 3.6.6.2 under Windows 7.) > > > -- > > > Kind regards, > > Dan > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
and what about 'genuine imitation' ;-) Yes, I'm ashamed to admit that the USofA probably is the worse for producing slang ;-) and bad grammar - as Professor Higgins [My Fair Lady] said, 'and in America, they haven't used it for years' ;-) From: Tom Davies Date: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" Hi :) "new and improved" is hopefully a duplication rather than a contradiction! lol. Not always true, of course. English (US) does tend to use different prepositions under English (GB). Out advertising people also seems to just muddle them down to try to reinforce their message. Council estate kids and common usage also messes things into. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Brian Barker >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 2:46 >Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax > > >At 21:06 16/07/2013 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: >>As long as we are going to entertain off topic, how about this. >> >>[One] common figure of speech in English is the use of "Try and" >>where the meaning is "Try to". I.E. I'm going to try and drive my >>car backwards for three miles. When I see it, or hear it, I wonder, >>"Are they going to try the car, or are they going to drive the >>car?" Make up my mind! > >I have to say I also prefer "try to" to "try and", but Henry Fowler >says of the figure of speech given the classy Greek name "hendiadys" >(or one-through-two): > >>... 'nice and warm', 'try and do better', 'grace and favour', >>instead of 'nicely warm', 'try to do better', 'gracious favour' are >>true examples. > >See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendiadys . Advertisers use it when >they claim their product is "new and improved" (which is a >contradiction), meaning "newly improved". > >Brian Barker > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: [libreoffice-documentation] question
Do you perchance mean to calculate a sum of numbers? If so, I think you can do what you want by using the BASE portion of LO; also, there are various calculators on-line now - some free, some free for the individual user, some paid - which will do just about any mathematical formulae one would wish to do. Hoping this leads you to uncover that for which you're seeking, From: Jean Weber Date: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:58 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] question To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: "televisores...@hotmail.com" This question is more suitable for the users list, not documentation. Begin forwarded message: > From: televisores tecnologia > Date: 17 July 2013 14:35:30 AEST > To: "documentat...@global.libreoffice.org" < documentat...@global.libreoffice.org> > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] question > > hi i just started using libre office today, looks perfect, BUT : i can not find the summatory sign on any of the menus, so if want to make a summatory of several cells i have to do it one by one ? i think i m wrong, but please let me know where to find the summatory sign on spreadsheet > > regards > > Alex Salazar -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: [libreoffice-documentation] more questions
In LO, the 'find' is located by clicking on the 'edit' tab -> clicking on the 'find' desired. From: Jean Weber Date: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:00 AM Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] more questions To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: televisores...@hotmail.com Another question for the users list. Begin forwarded message: > From: televisores tecnologia > Date: 17 July 2013 14:41:40 AEST > To: "documentat...@global.libreoffice.org" < documentat...@global.libreoffice.org> > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] more questions > > also i can not find the “ search “ option on the program, that is very important if we look for an special word or number on any of the programs > > regards > > Alex Salazar -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Freezing
Hi, I haven't had any general freezes, or freezes when opening files, but I do note that opening a csv file can sometimes take an unusually long time before I get the dialog asking me what sort of file conversions to make (sorry, I forget off-hand what the dialog is called). Also, I have in the past had a problem with long freezes when copying data to the clipboard. It was some time ago, and could possibly even have been pre-LO rather than just previous versions of LO; I certainly haven't seen it recently. I forget if it was on copy or paste, but when trying to move some data around between Calc worksheets I would, for no apparent reason I could ascertain, get long freezes each time I tried to copy (or cut) and paste data. After a long pause, Calc would resume normal operation, until the next copy and paste. Just wondering if others have noticed similar behaviour. Paul On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 02:10:29 +0100 Brian Barker wrote: > At 09:49 17/07/2013 +0900, Thomas Noname wrote: > >I was having / still have a similar problem with a file containing > >many pictures. > >Changing the memory options did not help. > >Is there maybe a way of choosing NOT to display images in a certain > >file? > > Yes. Go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | View | Display, > and untick what you don't need there. But that's not per file, of > course, but per user. > > I trust this helps. > > Brian Barker > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web
Hi, > >Or you could just install FireFox and be done with the problems .. Well, as Tom says, I don't think it's usefull to just say "Get a new browser". Also, if the certificate is actually wrong, then it should be corrected, there really is no good reason it should be wrong, and switching browsers to not have to see the error is not a real solution. That said... > >> ...Or LO webmasters could just stop being idiots and not offer a > >> certificate for *.documentfoundation.org for libreoffice.org? That's maybe ever so slightly harsh. I just checked in Firefox, and the certificate for https://www.libreoffice.org has a certificate with a CN for www.libreoffice.org, so I'm not sure what the problem is... unless of course they've already fixed it. Just sayin' Paul On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:05:07 +0100 (BST) Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > I kinda agree but even though IE has recently become a minority share > of the web-browser market it is still used by quite a lot of people. > Usually those people are clueless about the alternatives and/or seem > to think they are using a superior product because they haven't > really tried anything else. There's a LOT of them and we don't want > to cut them out of our potential market. Telling them they have to > change web-browser just to use LO just gives them an extra reason not > to bother trying LO. It just makes yet another artificial barrier > and increases the FUD. > > Something that does seem to surprise people and encourage them to > install LO is that they can have both LO and MSO on their system. A > dismaying number of people wont dare try LO because they think they > have to get rid of their MSO. Similarly with web-browsers of course > but that is not our fight. > > I'm credited with having written the 2nd paragraph below but it > really wasn't me 1. Most of the web developers i know are ladies > 2. If i had thought of it i would have written directly to the > Websites List to ask them if they could do it. probably the only > reason it might not have been done already is that they are a small > team and are still working on it. However, i doubt that IE 9 needs a > different certificate from IE 8 or that certificates made for IE 8 > are incompatible with IE 9. It's always possible, of course, > especially if it could make things difficult for LO without affecting > too many other people. > > Most of the people on tis list probably are already using Firefox, > Chrome, the Mac one, Opera or some other non-MS web-browser. We need > to catch more people that haven't tried the others yet and maybe be > their gateway into OpenSource. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > From: P NIKOLIC > >To: users@global.libreoffice.org > >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 7:29 > >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web > > > > > >On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:05:57 +0700 > >"Urmas" wrote: > > > >> "Tom Davies": > >> > >> Note that IE is made by a 3rd party competitor that has good reason > >> to want to see LibreOffice (and all other OpenSource products) > >> fail. The more they can do to discredit LibreOffice the more > >> likely they are to sell more of their own product and make more > >> money. So, if IE doesn't behave we might not be able to do > >> anything about it. > >> > >> ...Or LO webmasters could just stop being idiots and not offer a > >> certificate for *.documentfoundation.org for libreoffice.org? > >> > >> > >> > > > >Or you could just install FireFox and be done with the problems .. > > > >Pete . > > > > > >-- > >Linux 7-of-9 3.9.9-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jul 3 22:45:16 CEST 2013 > >x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > >Problems? > >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >Posting guidelines + more: > >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > >http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent > >to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] question
Hi :) In Calc you can find a Σ sign below the menus, just beside the long white field where the formula is shown, immediately above the cells of the spreadsheet. Sometimes the area it selects by default is not quite perfect so you can just drag-select the area you prefer. You might find this guide helpful https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Calc_Guide The 4.0 branch is only half complete but the guide for the 3.4 branch is plenty good enough. At this level you probably wont notice many changes anyway. The changes in Calc tend to be quite advanced stuff, even such as smoothing of types of curves in charts. Errr, you had written to the wrong list. The documentation team 'just' focus on writing the guides. It's a small team with a ton of work that they get through amazingly fast. It's the Users List that answers people's questions. So, i have forwarded your question there and let the Docs Team know they don't have to worry about spending time on this. On the other hand if you could help proof-read some of the newer versions of the chapters, as they come out, that would be enormously helpful. One of the criticisms of Guides and Manuals generally is that they are written by people that are NOT new and so a lot of technical words or strange phrases creep in. Unfortunately, everyone who does join in with the work in the Docs Team quickly becomes fairly expert so we constantly need new people to join in. Regards from Tom :) > > From: televisores tecnologia >To: "documentat...@global.libreoffice.org" > >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 5:35 >Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] question > > >hi i just started using libre office today, looks perfect, BUT : i can >not find the summatory sign on any of the menus, so if want to make a >summatory of several cells i have to do it one by one ? i think i m >wrong, but please let me know where to find the summatory sign on >spreadsheet > >regards > >Alex Salazar > > >Sent from Touch Ultra-Book > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Some content in ODP slide appears only in slide show view of Impress, not in normal view or PDF output
I have some ODP-format slides which appear correctly when I view them with the [F5] slide show view in Impress, but in which some content is missing when I view them in the normal view, and when I export to PDF. Any ideas why this might be, and how I can get a PDF in which all the content appears correctly, please? I've attached a minimal(ish) example. My apologies if attachments violate the netiquette of this list. (BTW, this is all happening in LibreOffice 3.6.6.2 under Windows 7.) -- Kind regards, Dan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web
Hi :) I kinda agree but even though IE has recently become a minority share of the web-browser market it is still used by quite a lot of people. Usually those people are clueless about the alternatives and/or seem to think they are using a superior product because they haven't really tried anything else. There's a LOT of them and we don't want to cut them out of our potential market. Telling them they have to change web-browser just to use LO just gives them an extra reason not to bother trying LO. It just makes yet another artificial barrier and increases the FUD. Something that does seem to surprise people and encourage them to install LO is that they can have both LO and MSO on their system. A dismaying number of people wont dare try LO because they think they have to get rid of their MSO. Similarly with web-browsers of course but that is not our fight. I'm credited with having written the 2nd paragraph below but it really wasn't me 1. Most of the web developers i know are ladies 2. If i had thought of it i would have written directly to the Websites List to ask them if they could do it. probably the only reason it might not have been done already is that they are a small team and are still working on it. However, i doubt that IE 9 needs a different certificate from IE 8 or that certificates made for IE 8 are incompatible with IE 9. It's always possible, of course, especially if it could make things difficult for LO without affecting too many other people. Most of the people on tis list probably are already using Firefox, Chrome, the Mac one, Opera or some other non-MS web-browser. We need to catch more people that haven't tried the others yet and maybe be their gateway into OpenSource. Regards from Tom :) > > From: P NIKOLIC >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 7:29 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web > > >On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:05:57 +0700 >"Urmas" wrote: > >> "Tom Davies": >> >> Note that IE is made by a 3rd party competitor that has good reason >> to want to see LibreOffice (and all other OpenSource products) fail. >> The more they can do to discredit LibreOffice the more likely they >> are to sell more of their own product and make more money. So, if IE >> doesn't behave we might not be able to do anything about it. >> >> ...Or LO webmasters could just stop being idiots and not offer a >> certificate for *.documentfoundation.org for libreoffice.org? >> >> >> > >Or you could just install FireFox and be done with the problems .. > >Pete . > > >-- >Linux 7-of-9 3.9.9-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jul 3 22:45:16 CEST 2013 >x86_64 GNU/Linux > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
Hi :) +1 to all that, especially the "Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer.". Plus, making yourself familiar with HsqlDb 1.8 is a good plan anyway. HsqlDb is java based but it's small and fast so as an external back-end it's good for most uses. My workplace is considering buying a specialist database that uses Firebird as a back-end so i kinda hope Base goes that way too. Unfortunately they have left the final purchase decision up to someone outside the organisation that is fairly clueless about compatibility and the alternative back-end is Access. Regards from Tom :) > > From: V Stuart Foote >To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 0:55 >Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax > > >Mark, > >Hey why should you care that it is off topic, no one else seems to understand >the concept ;-) > >So, regards movement toward a non-Java JRE dependent default SQL DB for >integration with the Base component. > >Several Bugzilla items worth reviewing: > >considering and rejecting SQLite as replacement >https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811 > >find a replacement for HSQLDB v1.8 >https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51781 > >considering an update to HSQLDB v2.x >https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44854 > >move default to FireBird not HSQLDB in Base -- this is the current development >effort >https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51780 > >Finally, here is the Wiki based project coordination for implementing >FirebirdSQL >https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Base/FirebirdSQL > >Once you are up to date, I'm sure they'd appreciate any help you can offer. > >Stuart > > >From: Mark LaPierre [marklap...@aol.com] >Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:13 PM >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax > >Well actually, I was going to ask what might replace HSQLDB but I >thought it might be a bit too far off topic. > > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax
Hi :) "new and improved" is hopefully a duplication rather than a contradiction! lol. Not always true, of course. English (US) does tend to use different prepositions under English (GB). Out advertising people also seems to just muddle them down to try to reinforce their message. Council estate kids and common usage also messes things into. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Brian Barker >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 2:46 >Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax > > >At 21:06 16/07/2013 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: >>As long as we are going to entertain off topic, how about this. >> >>[One] common figure of speech in English is the use of "Try and" >>where the meaning is "Try to". I.E. I'm going to try and drive my >>car backwards for three miles. When I see it, or hear it, I wonder, >>"Are they going to try the car, or are they going to drive the >>car?" Make up my mind! > >I have to say I also prefer "try to" to "try and", but Henry Fowler >says of the figure of speech given the classy Greek name "hendiadys" >(or one-through-two): > >>... 'nice and warm', 'try and do better', 'grace and favour', >>instead of 'nicely warm', 'try to do better', 'gracious favour' are >>true examples. > >See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendiadys . Advertisers use it when >they claim their product is "new and improved" (which is a >contradiction), meaning "newly improved". > >Brian Barker > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
