Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to remove the spell checker

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 09/30/2013 01:28 AM, Urmas wrote:
> "Kracked_P_P---webmaster":
>
>> MSO has very few spell checkers other than US English, compared to LO.
>
> They are immensely more primitive than MSO ones, though. Just compare
> the English or Russian dictionaries with ORFO's ones. Also, you can
> have a spellchecker for any language in MSO, like Kazakh or Turkmen.
> Those dictionaries cannot be supported in LO.
>
>
>

What do you mean by "Primitive"?

Why can not those languages be supported in LO?

I do not know of a Turkmen dictionary, but I know that there is a Kazakh
one.

Kazakh - ?

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.0-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/Kazakh-Spelling-Dictionary---dict-kk2008-09-10.oxt


The key to any spell checking dictionary, is the word list .dic file. 
The more words in that list, the better. 

There is an American English with over 797,000 words in its word list. 
It is not the default installed one, but it is available to add on to
LO, if wanted.

There are several Russian dictionaries that can be installed
post-install of LO.  How well they work, well I do not read Russian [
??? ]

Here is the list of dictionaries, and such, that I know of.  There are a
lot of them.
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.0-installs/dictionary.html

The ones here may have a few that are more up-to-day.
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center

I have to update some of the files in the "-NA.US" site list when I get
the time.



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[libreoffice-users] LO Base - Pushbutton on Form not working.

[Ian Whitfield]

Hi All

After some time working on other aspects of my Database I'm back to 
trying to get a Pushbutton working to open a SubForm.


PClinuxOS 2013.08; LO Base 4.1.1.2; MySQL 5.1.55

My Database - "FSNew"
Tables - "Members" & "Story"
Forms - "FSNew.Members" & "FSNew.Story"

The Pushbutton on the Members Form has the event -
"Mouse Button Pressed - Standard.Story.OpenForm" .

On Clicking on the Button in the Members Form I get the error -

"A Scripting Framework error occurred while running the Basic script 
vnd.sun.star.script:Standard.Story.OpenForm?language=Basic&location=document.


Message: The following Basic script could not be found:
library: 'Standard'
module: 'Story'
method: 'OpenForm'
location: 'document'"

Can someone decipher this for me please?? Thanks!!

IanW
Pretoria RSA



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Re: [libreoffice-users] FAQ nearly complete

[Sophie]

Hi Tom, all,
Le 29/09/2013 12:33, Tom Davies a écrit :
> Hi :) The Faqs on the wiki are nearly complete.
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq

Thanks for your announcement, we still have some work on it, but with
the help of Clayton now, I'm sure we will have some speed :)
> 
> The Base one was completed so long ago that it might need some
> revisions to it now.  It's not always possible to avoid using version
> numbers even though using version numbers quickly dates a page.  Some
> of the General and Writer sections might also need a bit of revising
> but all the rest is very fresh and new.

The FAQ is maintained on a daily basis by the French team, so the items
should be up to date, those which are obsolete have been put in remarks.
> 
> 
> Sophie, from the French Team (i think team leader (as well as being
> one of the top people in the international translators team and a
> founder member of TDF as a whole)),

hum, I'm leading nothing, only me I guess ;)

 has been working hard over the
> last couple of weeks/months to translate the Faq from the French
> original (i think mostly written by our Alex Thurgood if i remember
> correctly).  Other people have also put in some hard work but it was
> the sustained efforts of just a few people that has really driven
> this through, as is often the case.

To give you some history, this FAQ has been began by the French group
over 14 years ago at the StarOffice time...
> 
> 
> So, hopefully the Faq retains a little flavour of French.  It might
> need smoothing out into the type of English you might hear in common
> usage (please no "Yo"s tho!) .  It's likely to be excellent as is
> though and a hint of Frenchness is occasionally aspired to in other
> places in order to sound more exotic and posh.

Yes, it's a wiki, so don't hesitate to put your hands on if you see
something wrong, this is a tool for all of us.
> 
> 
> Anyway, the job is done for Writer, Calc and Base so it might help us
> answer questions by giving us a repository of easy links to back-up
> our assertions. Good luck all and happy skim-reading! :) Regards from
>  Tom :)

Calc still needs some love, a lot of items are missing, that I'll take
care during the next months. Clayton is currently working on Impress
when he has time. Any help is appreciated, most of the screen shots in
Writer FAQ are still in French for example.

Kind regards
Sophie

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The Document Foundation

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to remove the spell checker

[Tom Davies]

From: Urmas 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 30 September 2013, 6:28
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to remove the spell checker


"Kracked_P_P---webmaster":

> MSO has very few spell checkers other than US English, compared to LO.

They are immensely more primitive than MSO ones, though. Just compare the 
English or Russian dictionaries with ORFO's ones. Also, you can have a 
spellchecker for any language in MSO, like Kazakh or Turkmen. Those 
dictionaries cannot be supported in LO.



Hi :)  
I'm CCing the international translators list in one this because they are more 
likely to know technical details about such FUD.  

Urmas seems to contradict what is seen on the downloads page 
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86&version=4.1.1&lang=pick
Kazakh is clearly listed.  So all the menus and pop-up dialogues and everything 
can be set to use Kazakh instead of English (US).  Also there are tons of 
RightToLeft languages as well as LTR ones.  I'm not sure if it handles 
BottomToTop but we seem to have at least one listed.  

Ok, so that doesn't have much to do with whether a spell-checker would work but 
surely all a spell-checker requires is 
1.  the spell-checker engine itself.  
2.  That the language has a font and can be displayed on-screen
3.  a dictionary

The spell checker seems to work fine on most languages.  I'm not sure why you 
think it wouldn't work with another 2.  We have seen there is a font for it and 
that it can display well on-screen.  Dictionaries can be created as they are 
really just lists of words (ok, ideally very, very long lists but they could be 
quite short to start with because words can easily be added by users 
(right-click and "Add to dictionary"))

Regards from
Tom :)  


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[libreoffice-users] North America Pub Chat

[Joel Madero]

Hi All,

I hope this email finds everyone doing well. I would like to propose
another North America QA pub chat (this time I may even bring a beer) for
next Friday (the 11th) at the same time (12:00pm EST). If we can get at
least 5 people I think it's worth catching up, see what everyone has been
up to, get an update from Robinson's trip to Milan (yes, Robinson went to
the conference in Milanhe'll make sure to rub it in our face about how
amazing it was), and anything else that comes to mind.

Like always this chat is open to everyone, just the time is set up so that
it's functional for us in North America to make without having to wake up
at 5am.

If you're interested please respond letting me know so that I can get a
head count. If it reaches 5, Robinson and I will work on a tentative agenda
but I'd like this one to be more interactive than the last :)


All the Best,
Joel

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LibreOffice QA Volunteer
jmadero@gmail.com

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Re: [libreoffice-users] downloaded .doc file will only open as read-only

[Michael Hartigan]

saving a copy, under file, worked to create a writable version, exact
fascimile (unlike cutting and pasting).

Thank you all for your help


On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> Now the confusion is that MS Outlook does allow this behaviour so people
> assume that's the way it should be done.  Even though they lose files they
> still grumble about the idea of having to download to a known location.
>  Something that did catch their attention was the threading.  MS Outlook
> just can't manage it.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Tanstaafl 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2013, 21:14
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] downloaded .doc file will only open as
> read-only
>
>
> On 2013-09-29 12:46 AM, Dave Liesse  wrote:
> > This is what I was going to suggest, as well.  Any document I get via
> > email is read-only, regardless of its source software (I use Thunderbird
> > as my client).
>
> It wasn't always - less recent version of Thunderbird would open
> attachemnts in read/write mode, and this was a major source of confusion
> for our users - they would open a document, make changes, just click
> 'save', then couldn't find their changes... I'd have to help them dig
> out the modified document from their Temp folder.
>
> I was very happy when Thunderbird changed this so that email attachments
> were opened in read only mode.
>
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[libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

[James Knott]

Occasionally on this list, someone asks about open source email &
calendar that can be used with LibreOffice.  Here are instructions for
using Google Calendar with Thunderbird.  You can use the Thunderbird
Add-Ons manager to install both Lightning and "Provider for Google
Calendar", instead of going to a web site and downloading the package.
This also works with the email program in Seamonkey, but Thunderbird
works better with LO.

https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/using-lightning-google-calendar


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Re: [libreoffice-users] SWF export not working

[Mark Bourne]

T Lee Davidson wrote:

I am using LibreOffice Version 4.0.4.2 on Mageia 3 (Linux). The Export
to Macromedia Flash (SWF) function does not appear to be functioning
properly.

I created a simple (text-only plus background) six-slide presentation
with all but the first slide set to automatically advance after just a
few seconds. The slide show works when I preview it. But, exporting it
to SWF creates a file of just 20kb. I'm pretty sure that can't be a
valid Flash file. And, none of my video players (VLC, Dragon, & XINE)
will play it.


Flash is not just a video format but also includes scripting. It's 
designed for embedding in web pages, and although it can be used to show 
videos on a web page, I'm not sure that dedicated video applications 
would necessarily play it. Have you tried opening the Flash file in a 
web browser? Do VLC, Dragon and XINE play any other Flash videos?


I've just done a quick test (LibreOffice 4.0.4.2 on Windows Vista) with 
3 text-only slides, exported to SWF (file is <1kB, so 20kB certainly 
could be valid):
- Opening the .swf in Mozilla SeaMonkey (web browser) works, but doesn't 
seem to do the automatic transitions - need to click to advance through 
slides.
- VLC does not open this file. As far as I can see VLC should be able to 
play "Flash Video" files, which have a .flv extension and are not the 
same as .swf (e.g. .flv doesn't appear to include the scripting 
capabilities of .swf).
- I'm not familiar with Dragon, and think XINE is Linux-only, but 
suspect they probably just don't play .swf either.


Mark.

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[libreoffice-users] Corrupt Installer Errors??

[contrazz]

I've tried to install LibreOffice and the Help on two computers where I work. 
The computers both complain that the main installer is not a valid installer
- and that the Help installer has a corrupt CAB file.  This seems fairly
unlikely to be true, but I'm checking to see whether there have been similar
problems reported by others.  If no one else is having trouble, I'll hassle
the IT department here ... I'm suspicious that it's getting hosed on this
end, somehow ... 

TIA!





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Corrupt Installer Errors??

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
It's more likely the download process that went wonky somehow.  Can you do an 
Md5sum or Sha check on the download to see if you did get it all?  Firefox and 
some other web-browsers are better than others at coping with downloads that 
got interrupted but the best and easiest way to make sure the download is 
perfect is to torrent it as that performs constant checks on the quality of the 
download as it's doing the downloading.  Have you used a torrent before?  

I would probably chicken out and not bother with any of that just yet.  First i 
would just re-download again and see if the new download installs any better on 
just 1 machine.  If that works then use it on others  If the 2nd download also 
seemed bad then i would try some of the things i suggested in the 1st paragraph.
Regards from 
Tom :)  






- Original Message -
From: contrazz 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, 30 September 2013, 22:37
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Corrupt Installer Errors??

I've tried to install LibreOffice and the Help on two computers where I work. 
The computers both complain that the main installer is not a valid installer
- and that the Help installer has a corrupt CAB file.  This seems fairly
unlikely to be true, but I'm checking to see whether there have been similar
problems reported by others.  If no one else is having trouble, I'll hassle
the IT department here ... I'm suspicious that it's getting hosed on this
end, somehow ... 

TIA!





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[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] downloaded .doc file will only open as read-only

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Congrats :)) Nicely done :)  

Also thanks for letting us know you fixed it.  There seemed to be some sort of 
password issue somewhere along the way but hopefully you managed to dodge that 
using this method.  
Good luck and regards from  
Tom :)  




- Original Message -
From: Michael Hartigan 
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, 30 September 2013, 16:13
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] downloaded .doc file will only open as 
read-only

saving a copy, under file, worked to create a writable version, exact
fascimile (unlike cutting and pasting).

Thank you all for your help


On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> Now the confusion is that MS Outlook does allow this behaviour so people
> assume that's the way it should be done.  Even though they lose files they
> still grumble about the idea of having to download to a known location.
>  Something that did catch their attention was the threading.  MS Outlook
> just can't manage it.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Tanstaafl 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2013, 21:14
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] downloaded .doc file will only open as
> read-only
>
>
> On 2013-09-29 12:46 AM, Dave Liesse  wrote:
> > This is what I was going to suggest, as well.  Any document I get via
> > email is read-only, regardless of its source software (I use Thunderbird
> > as my client).
>
> It wasn't always - less recent version of Thunderbird would open
> attachemnts in read/write mode, and this was a major source of confusion
> for our users - they would open a document, make changes, just click
> 'save', then couldn't find their changes... I'd have to help them dig
> out the modified document from their Temp folder.
>
> I was very happy when Thunderbird changed this so that email attachments
> were opened in read only mode.
>


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to remove the spell checker

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Tom, *,

Am 30.09.2013 10:47 schrieb "Tom Davies" :
> […]
> Ok, so that doesn't have much to do with whether a spell-checker would
work but surely all a spell-checker requires is
> 1.  the spell-checker engine itself.

That is a given. LO uses hunspell itself, but integrates also with other
engines like for example the Mac Os X one.

> 2.  That the language has a font and can be displayed on-screen

That is not a requirement for the spell checker, only one for the human in
front of the screen.

> 3.  a dictionary

Exactly. And there it depends strongly on the structure of the language how
complex that dictionary has to be.

> Dictionaries can be created as they are really just lists of words

Well, they could be list of words, but this is inefficient. In reality they
consist of patterns and rules to modify those patterns/stems.

Ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Corrupt Installer Errors??

[Ruth Ann]

I had that same problem when I tried to install LO on both my new 
computer and on a new laptop.
I had also been having problems with my internet connection while trying 
to set up the new computer.


So, when the install did not work on either computer, I tried 
downloading the program with a different WiFi network, and this time I 
got different errors, but it would still not install on either computer.


So then I got the idea to download from a different web site, and this 
time it did work and it installed with no problems.
I still do not know if the problem was with my internet or with the 
download itself.


My new computers run Windows 8.

The original download (that gave errors during install) was the 
"official" site:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download

To find another site, I just googled "download Libre Office" and came up 
a number of sites.

I do not remember which one I used, but I think it was either:
http://www.download-21.com/libreoffice-20639/
or
http://download.cnet.com/LibreOffice/3000-18483_4-75337651.html

HTH
Ruth Ann,
Cincinnati, OH, USA


On 9/30/2013 5:37 PM, contrazz wrote:

I've tried to install LibreOffice and the Help on two computers where I work.
The computers both complain that the main installer is not a valid installer
- and that the Help installer has a corrupt CAB file.  This seems fairly
unlikely to be true, but I'm checking to see whether there have been similar
problems reported by others.  If no one else is having trouble, I'll hassle
the IT department here ... I'm suspicious that it's getting hosed on this
end, somehow ...

TIA!





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