RE: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
Broken link replacement: Compile from source code? Try this: http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/compile_software_from_source_code/ Original Message Subject: Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??) From: Anthony Easthope [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4077342...@n3.nabble.com Date: Wed, October 09, 2013 3:59 am To: contrazz dig...@contrawise.net But I like compiling from source complains the battle scared OS pioneer! [1]http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-cod e On Wed, 9 Oct 2013, at 04:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I suspect that a lot of your concerns and more besides are shared by the LO devs and in some cases by the companies they work for. My guess is that is part of the reason we don't already have 1-click installers. We already have at least 2 systems that work (repos and copypaste from instructions) so there is nothing driving them to produce some hasty bodge in the release early and release often style. Another, slightly wilder, guess is that you might need to do 1 extra step = such as unzipping a container-file (as we can do with .odt files). This whole topic, about 1-click installers, is a chinese whisper (not sure why the Chinese get the blame for it as we all do it). It would be better for one or 2 of us to contact the devs to initially find out 1. If there is a plan or vague idea to create 1-click installers for the 3 or 4 ways of packaging such things for GnuLinux (maybe and Bsd?) If there is then 2 follow-up questions arise 2. How imminent are such plans? Soon or years away? 3. Are compiled binaries going to be available? (perhaps in .deb or .rpm form for people to repackage for various distros such as Slackware (or use tools such as the alien thing)) At the moment we are all just making guesses based on something that 1 person thinks they might vaguely remember having heard or read about some time ago. With no proof or links to anything to suggest that vague memory has any basis in fact. Errr, that 1 person was me so i deeply apologise for that and for not intervening sooner [hangs head in shame] [shuffles feet] Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Girvin Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2013, 0:35 Subject: Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??) snip / Of course, I could always compile the source code, but that can be another can of worms and it takes a lot longer to compile LO than to just repackage the already compiled binary. I am not sure what your definition of distro is in your reply above. It could mean the LO distro or the Linux distro, in my case Slackware. snip / Generally, such package installers need to be run as root and that is a no-no with me. snip / Take care. Girvin Herr -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com References 1. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-Installer-Errors-tp4075791p4077342.html To unsubscribe from Corrupt Installer Errors??, visit http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4075791code=ZGlnZ2xlQGNvbnRyYXdpc2UubmV0fDQwNzU3OTF8MTIzNTQyMTg2Mg== -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-Installer-Errors-tp4075791p4077515.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] inserting pdf into writer document
I have a pdf file that is 233 pages long. Some is native pdf, other pages are apparently images scanned into the document. Is there any way I can take pages from the pdf and insert them into writer ? win 7 bill -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
I do not know if I will be using the PPA for the 4.0.6 install, but it will be a while before I use 4.1.x. FOR install commands I now use. . . . sudo apt-get remove libreoffice* . . . . then do the standard dpkg -i *.deb terminal install. I found that there was a show-stopper for the font selection, for 4.1.2, that caused the drop box to go back to the top while I was trying to scroll down the list to change the font of a few cells in a Calc file. I had tried it every way I knew how and it just kept going back to the top of the list instead of continuing to scroll down. I could not even get past Arial on the list before the jump back to the top. For me, that is a show-stopper, even if I do not use Calc often. I really hate it when there is a problem with the font scrolling, or viewing. I have over 600 fonts in my font folder on my desktop and somewhere about 400 on my laptop's font folder[s]. Since I use a lot of specialty fonts for the holidays [like letters made out of bones or letters in Christmas trees, and such] I really tend to build up the number of specialty fonts during the holliday seasons. This is the second or third time a version has had this font drop box scrolling problem or being able to display all of the fonts installed. On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Sorry all! I just googled for the PPA and found this page https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa Apparently each different branch of LO has it's own page and the above page has a link to each of those. So you can choose to have a really old branch using that way if you want. They do list links to the 4.1.x and 4.0.x branches even though they are not quite legacy yet! Regards from Tom :) On Thursday, 10 October 2013, 1:32, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: So the PPA has the newest version of both branches. Does that mean that the newest that will be updated to right now will be 4.1.2, but in a few weeks the update manager will see that 4.0.6 is the newest and try to update your 4.1.2 back to that one? On 10/09/2013 07:23 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) No, it's just 1 PPA. If you want an older version then you kinda have to go back to the LO site. The PPA only has the most recent version although i think that might be the latest from each of the 2 current branches Regards from Tom :) snip -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Bug?
Hello, When I open LibreOffice and there is a box showed, like this... I clicked either Don't Reopen or Reopen and both didn't work at all. Killed the LibreOpen and rebooted the system didn't solve at all. Please advise. LibreOpen Version - latest 4.1.1 OSX 10.8.5 Thanks! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
Hi :) I don't know about details. It is possible to talk with them directly or even just read their PPA page and see if they answer such questions there. If they do have 2 branches then i doubt they do it in such a stupid way. They are not morons! Regards from Tom :) On Thursday, 10 October 2013, 1:32, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: So the PPA has the newest version of both branches. Does that mean that the newest that will be updated to right now will be 4.1.2, but in a few weeks the update manager will see that 4.0.6 is the newest and try to update your 4.1.2 back to that one? On 10/09/2013 07:23 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) No, it's just 1 PPA. If you want an older version then you kinda have to go back to the LO site. The PPA only has the most recent version although i think that might be the latest from each of the 2 current branches Regards from Tom :) On Thursday, 10 October 2013, 0:14, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 10/09/2013 03:01 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) in *buntu and clones just add the LO PPA to stay really quite up-to-date. Simples Most stuff doesn't really need updating that much anyway. Regards from Tom :) PPA for each line? is there one that will get you 4.0.6 when it comes out and another to give you 4.1.2 is you have 4.0.5? I prefer to choose the line/version I want. That is why I have been installing them manually. ALSO where can you find the link[s] to the PPA[s]? I do not remember seeing it published anywhere. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting pdf into writer document
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM, william drescher will...@techservsys.comwrote: I have a pdf file that is 233 pages long. Some is native pdf, other pages are apparently images scanned into the document. Is there any way I can take pages from the pdf and insert them into writer ? win 7 bill 1. Open new writer text document. 2. Highlight text in pdf you want to insert into writer document. 3. Copy 4. Paste in to writer document 5. Format as desired. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Bug?
See solution on this bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39007#c35 On 2013-10-10 7:09 AM Paul Kahn wrote: Hello, When I open LibreOffice and there is a box showed, like this... I clicked either Don't Reopen or Reopen and both didn't work at all. Killed the LibreOpen and rebooted the system didn't solve at all. Please advise. LibreOpen Version - latest 4.1.1 OSX 10.8.5 Thanks! -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
Broken link replacement: Compile from source code? Try this: http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/compile_software_from_source_code/ Original Message Subject: Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??) From: Robert Holtzman [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4077482...@n3.nabble.com Date: Thu, October 10, 2013 3:13 am To: contrazz dig...@contrawise.net On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 04:09:36PM -0400, James Knott wrote: Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:52:09AM +0200, Anthony Easthope wrote: But I like compiling from source complains the battle scared OS pioneer! [1]http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-cod e The link leads to not found, at least for me. Did you notice that e that wound up on the next line? You may have to add it to the URL. My browser adds it automagically. That's not the link that doesn't work. It's the Compile Software From Source Code link one layer down. Without that the site is of little use. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-Installer-Errors-tp4075791p4077482.html To unsubscribe from Corrupt Installer Errors??, visit http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4075791code=ZGlnZ2xlQGNvbnRyYXdpc2UubmV0fDQwNzU3OTF8MTIzNTQyMTg2Mg== -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Corrupt-Installer-Errors-tp4075791p4077543.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Calc IF problem
Hi, I have a spreadsheet with four pricing ranges for a certain number of units. G4 = 601 H4 = calculated by below formula = 751.25 but should be 751.52 . F20 = 1.25 G20 = 150 i.e. 0-150 units h20 = F*G I20 = 1.25 J20 = 200 i.e. 150.0001 - 350 units K20 = I*J L20 = 1.25 M20 = 250 i.e. 350.0001 - 600 units N20 = L*M O20 = 1.52 P20 = 600 i.e. 600.0001 - infinity units Q20 = O*P The below formula calculates H4 =IF(0G4=$G$20,G4*$F$20,IF($G$20G4=$J$20,(G4-$G$20)*$I$20+($F$20*$G$20),IF($J$20G4=$M$20,(G4-$G$20-$J$20)*$L$20+(($G$20*$F$20)+($J$20*$I$20),IF($M$20G4$P$20,(G4-$G$20-$J$20-$M$20)*$O$20+(($G$20*$F$20)+($J$20*$I$20)+($M$20*$L$20),IF(G4=$P$20,((G4-$G$20-$J$20-$M$20-$P$20)*$O$20+(($G$20*$F$20)+($J$20*$I$20)+($M$20*$L$20)+($O$20*$P$20)) Is there a simpler way to achieve the right answer i.e. 751.52 as I have checked all the cell values and they all read as indicated here. Where am I making a mistake? Regards Hylton -- Hylton is a Lions Club member of Lions Club of Fish Hoek (District 410A) http://e-clubhouse.org/sites/fishhoek/index.php being part of the worlds largest non profit NGO -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc IF problem
Hi, Am 10.10.2013 19:11, schrieb Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC): Where am I making a mistake? Don´t use multiple nested IF-functions. Use the VLOOKUP-function! Get yourself Calc User Guide, Chapter 13: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/5/53/CG4013-CalcAsASimpleDatabase.pdf and look for VLOOKUP. Cheers, Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 06:43:07AM -0700, contrazz wrote: Broken link replacement: Compile from source code? Try this: http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/compile_software_from_source_code/ That's the one. Thanks. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting pdf into writer document
Hi. Sometimes I do this by opening the PDF in LO draw and then copying relavent parts to writer documnet. Not all PDFs open perfectly in draw. Sometimes I create the PDF from writer content without the pages from the 233 page PDF as multiple PDFs. I save the pages of the 233 page PDF I want as PDFs or just split the 233 page PDF into the pages I want and then join the PDFs back in the order I want. What's he talking about? Say I want page 123 of the 233 page PDF between pages 4 and 5 of my writer document. Print page 123 to PDF (CutePDF) or split page 123 out (pdftk, pdfSaM). Print pages 1-4 of your writer doc as PDF Print page 5 of your writer doc as PDF Join the PDFs P1-5, P123, P5 Steve On 2013-10-11 04:05, william drescher wrote: I have a pdf file that is 233 pages long. Some is native pdf, other pages are apparently images scanned into the document. Is there any way I can take pages from the pdf and insert them into writer ? win 7 bill -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc IF problem
Hi. Brian Barker gave a very succint method to do this in a previous discussion. You can search this list in Nabble http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html Search VLOOKUP Steve On 2013-10-11 06:11, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Hi, I have a spreadsheet with four pricing ranges for a certain number of units. G4 = 601 H4 = calculated by below formula = 751.25 but should be 751.52 . F20 = 1.25 G20 = 150 i.e. 0-150 units h20 = F*G I20 = 1.25 J20 = 200 i.e. 150.0001 - 350 units K20 = I*J L20 = 1.25 M20 = 250 i.e. 350.0001 - 600 units N20 = L*M O20 = 1.52 P20 = 600 i.e. 600.0001 - infinity units Q20 = O*P The below formula calculates H4 =IF(0G4=$G$20,G4*$F$20,IF($G$20G4=$J$20,(G4-$G$20)*$I$20+($F$20*$G$20),IF($J$20G4=$M$20,(G4-$G$20-$J$20)*$L$20+(($G$20*$F$20)+($J$20*$I$20),IF($M$20G4$P$20,(G4-$G$20-$J$20-$M$20)*$O$20+(($G$20*$F$20)+($J$20*$I$20)+($M$20*$L$20),IF(G4=$P$20,((G4-$G$20-$J$20-$M$20-$P$20)*$O$20+(($G$20*$F$20)+($J$20*$I$20)+($M$20*$L$20)+($O$20*$P$20)) Is there a simpler way to achieve the right answer i.e. 751.52 as I have checked all the cell values and they all read as indicated here. Where am I making a mistake? Regards Hylton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] unique uses of frame styles
Hi: I'm in the middle of writing a book about styles and templates in LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I'm currently trying to flesh out the chapter on frame styles a bit. Does anyone have any original ideas about how to take advantage of frame styles? I've already written about watermarks and sideheads, but if you can suggest a use that I haven't heard about, I'll credit you when the book is published. Thanks, -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
When I was a full-time journalist in the 1980s, I became very successful using a dedicated outliner called PCOutline. When all the major Word Processers came along--MS Word, Word Perfect, etc, the lack of outliner functionality kept me with my archaic outliner until MS Word beat the functionality of PCOutline. I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical writer in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a java house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS, that I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they came along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and furthermore, the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point, from my point of view. I'm a very motivated wannabe LibraOffice user who currently can't make the switch, because although I'm retired and writing fiction, the power of an outliner for writing in all genres is something I can't live without. So my reasons are complex--sorry about that--but tl:dr will not allow you to understand them. Please take the time. I really want to quit Microsoft Office forever and ever and ever. Thanx. The first functionality I need might seem mickey mouse, but it's the foundation for everything else. This is that in Word's outliner view, there's a button in front of every paragraph that I can drag and drop up and down. It's like cut and paste, but a lot faster. Combined with other features, it's extremely powerful. The second functionality I need is to be able to collapse things. In an article of 25 paragraphs, I can hide every line except the first line of the paragraph, thus allowing me to see the entire article of 25 paragraphs on the screen at the same time. This allows me to completely rearrange the entire article by drop and drag. For editing a single sentence or paragraph, I insert a return between sentences, phrases, and even words, drop and drag these elements into a new order, and delete the returns. Voila! A much better constructed paragraph or sentence in a snap. The third functionality is to collapse things within headers. For instance, if I've interviewed a dozen people for an article or if I've brainstormed 5 pages of random ideas for a blog or a chapter in a novel, I create headers for different topics and then drag and drop paragraphs, quotes, ideas, etc into the headers or buckets I've created. When one header becomes too full and fills too much of the screen, I collapse it, so that it hides all the paragraphs already there, which cleans up the screen. When I'm done with this step, I have half a dozen headers, under which are many different ideas, all of which are completely hidden. So I drag and drop my half a dozen headers into the correct order. Then I open the first main header and create a bunch of subheaders. Once this is done, I reorganize all of the points in this first section into subsections or sub-buckets, collapsing them all as needed until everything is organized into a number of different subheaders. At this point, I can rearrange all of these subheaders into the best order that they belong in. I can even drag a subheader into a different main heading if I choose, where it will remain as a separate section. I can repeat this process as many levels as I wish. This feature in MS Word is fractal to nine levels. From a chaotic mixture of confusion emerges order, insight, and wisdom--in one single step. As a technical writer, I used to sit in a brainstorming meetings, write down every developer idea as fast as I could (including those I didn't understand at all), type it all sequentially, and then very quickly organize all of the ideas into a coherent whole. The developers thought I actually knew how to program. (Mwah-hah-hah!) I could never have done that with LibreOffice as it's now configured or OpenOffice, either. Without my Word outliner, I would have been a shitty technical writer, and I would never have been able to write the developer guides I wrote. As a creative writer today, I currently have a dozen projects that are percolating, as well as one major project that I'm focusing on. I just brainstorm for anything that comes up, drag the ideas into the proper buckets, and I never lose anything of value. (Yes, the word never is absolutely accurate.) It's like having a Super Power that's available to everyone, but no one knows how to get it. Currently, this Super Power is only available in MS Word. Please make it possible for me to migrate to LibreOffice without losing my Super Powers. And please make these Super Powers available to the world. Doing so could cause the entire planet to evolve into better writers. You can help eliminate crappy writing! Until you do this, LibreOffice is like Kryptonite to me. I can't come near it, even though I truly want to. I beg of you: Please help poor little Cougar quit his addiction to Micro$oft! (Yeah, I know. Outliners do not eliminate the
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
I've been using opml editor (on Windows, unfortunately) which seems to do all these things. Once stuff is in place it can be copied and pasted into a LO document, I believe. I've even been able to do a bit in Text Pad with indents and then copying it into the opml editor creates a good outline. I think Scrivener is based on opml and has all of the functionality you mention. There seems to be a beta version of Scrivener for Linux; it's well established for Windows and Mac; and I think once the outlining is done the finished document exports to LO or M$ Word. On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 15:09 -0700, CougarB wrote: When I was a full-time journalist in the 1980s, I became very successful using a dedicated outliner called PCOutline. When all the major Word Processers came along--MS Word, Word Perfect, etc, the lack of outliner functionality kept me with my archaic outliner until MS Word beat the functionality of PCOutline. I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical writer in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a java house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS, that I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they came along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and furthermore, the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point, from my point of view. I'm a very motivated wannabe LibraOffice user who currently can't make the switch, because although I'm retired and writing fiction, the power of an outliner for writing in all genres is something I can't live without. So my reasons are complex--sorry about that--but tl:dr will not allow you to understand them. Please take the time. I really want to quit Microsoft Office forever and ever and ever. Thanx. The first functionality I need might seem mickey mouse, but it's the foundation for everything else. This is that in Word's outliner view, there's a button in front of every paragraph that I can drag and drop up and down. It's like cut and paste, but a lot faster. Combined with other features, it's extremely powerful. The second functionality I need is to be able to collapse things. In an article of 25 paragraphs, I can hide every line except the first line of the paragraph, thus allowing me to see the entire article of 25 paragraphs on the screen at the same time. This allows me to completely rearrange the entire article by drop and drag. For editing a single sentence or paragraph, I insert a return between sentences, phrases, and even words, drop and drag these elements into a new order, and delete the returns. Voila! A much better constructed paragraph or sentence in a snap. The third functionality is to collapse things within headers. For instance, if I've interviewed a dozen people for an article or if I've brainstormed 5 pages of random ideas for a blog or a chapter in a novel, I create headers for different topics and then drag and drop paragraphs, quotes, ideas, etc into the headers or buckets I've created. When one header becomes too full and fills too much of the screen, I collapse it, so that it hides all the paragraphs already there, which cleans up the screen. When I'm done with this step, I have half a dozen headers, under which are many different ideas, all of which are completely hidden. So I drag and drop my half a dozen headers into the correct order. Then I open the first main header and create a bunch of subheaders. Once this is done, I reorganize all of the points in this first section into subsections or sub-buckets, collapsing them all as needed until everything is organized into a number of different subheaders. At this point, I can rearrange all of these subheaders into the best order that they belong in. I can even drag a subheader into a different main heading if I choose, where it will remain as a separate section. I can repeat this process as many levels as I wish. This feature in MS Word is fractal to nine levels. From a chaotic mixture of confusion emerges order, insight, and wisdom--in one single step. As a technical writer, I used to sit in a brainstorming meetings, write down every developer idea as fast as I could (including those I didn't understand at all), type it all sequentially, and then very quickly organize all of the ideas into a coherent whole. The developers thought I actually knew how to program. (Mwah-hah-hah!) I could never have done that with LibreOffice as it's now configured or OpenOffice, either. Without my Word outliner, I would have been a shitty technical writer, and I would never have been able to write the developer guides I wrote. As a creative writer today, I currently have a dozen projects that are percolating, as well as one major project that I'm focusing on. I just brainstorm for anything that comes up, drag the ideas into the proper buckets, and I never lose anything of value.
Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting pdf into writer document
One question I have is how well is the PDF file protected from someone doing a copy/paste from the document? I know that some of the PDF files I have been given allowed me to export or do something else to save an included image to an image file. Same with the text of some. Now the big thing is what type of software you can get. I know there are packages out there that can take a PDF file and convert it back to a .doc file. I have seen them, but it was at least a year ago. Page/File splitting would work for some of what is needed. A good PDF reader/splitter may have some of the things needed. Listed below is CutePDF, but I am trying to remember if Foxit PDF software [reader] has what you might need. Linux has some good packages, but you need to use Win7. The real key is how much of the original page format you want to keep. The best option is find the PDF to DOC converters. With a 200+ page document, that may be the best solution in the long run. But splitting pages and working with only the ones you need can help the process along. On 10/10/2013 02:22 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. Sometimes I do this by opening the PDF in LO draw and then copying relavent parts to writer documnet. Not all PDFs open perfectly in draw. Sometimes I create the PDF from writer content without the pages from the 233 page PDF as multiple PDFs. I save the pages of the 233 page PDF I want as PDFs or just split the 233 page PDF into the pages I want and then join the PDFs back in the order I want. What's he talking about? Say I want page 123 of the 233 page PDF between pages 4 and 5 of my writer document. Print page 123 to PDF (CutePDF) or split page 123 out (pdftk, pdfSaM). Print pages 1-4 of your writer doc as PDF Print page 5 of your writer doc as PDF Join the PDFs P1-5, P123, P5 Steve On 2013-10-11 04:05, william drescher wrote: I have a pdf file that is 233 pages long. Some is native pdf, other pages are apparently images scanned into the document. Is there any way I can take pages from the pdf and insert them into writer ? win 7 bill -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
Just a friendly reminder that devs rarely track this mailing list. If you have a feature request it belongs on our bug tracker (bugs.freedesktop.org) else it will never get implemented. Best, Joel On 10/10/2013 03:50 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I am not a Macro person, but I wonder how much of this can be done with Macros. I know one book writer that does a great deal of his work through macros he created over the years. He could not find any word processor package that did what he wanted so he learned to write macros. First with Star Office, then OOo, and now using LO on his Linux system. I do not remember all of the things he wrote about in his author's notes before he got into his e-newsletter, but one time he did talk about all of the things he needed to be done and went out to find a package that could do it through the macros. The last author's notes was about getting OOo running on a new Linux system. That was when it was in the late 1.x stage or early 2.x one. Just about 2 years ago, I found out he switched to LO. He no longer writes/co-writes 4 to 6 books a year, but he still does a few, now that he is in his late 70's. So Those who are really good at writing Macros, how much of the info below can be taken care of through some type of macros? On 10/10/2013 06:09 PM, CougarB wrote: When I was a full-time journalist in the 1980s, I became very successful using a dedicated outliner called PCOutline. When all the major Word Processers came along--MS Word, Word Perfect, etc, the lack of outliner functionality kept me with my archaic outliner until MS Word beat the functionality of PCOutline. I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical writer in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a java house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS, that I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they came along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and furthermore, the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point, from my point of view. I'm a very motivated wannabe LibraOffice user who currently can't make the switch, because although I'm retired and writing fiction, the power of an outliner for writing in all genres is something I can't live without. So my reasons are complex--sorry about that--but tl:dr will not allow you to understand them. Please take the time. I really want to quit Microsoft Office forever and ever and ever. Thanx. The first functionality I need might seem mickey mouse, but it's the foundation for everything else. This is that in Word's outliner view, there's a button in front of every paragraph that I can drag and drop up and down. It's like cut and paste, but a lot faster. Combined with other features, it's extremely powerful. The second functionality I need is to be able to collapse things. In an article of 25 paragraphs, I can hide every line except the first line of the paragraph, thus allowing me to see the entire article of 25 paragraphs on the screen at the same time. This allows me to completely rearrange the entire article by drop and drag. For editing a single sentence or paragraph, I insert a return between sentences, phrases, and even words, drop and drag these elements into a new order, and delete the returns. Voila! A much better constructed paragraph or sentence in a snap. The third functionality is to collapse things within headers. For instance, if I've interviewed a dozen people for an article or if I've brainstormed 5 pages of random ideas for a blog or a chapter in a novel, I create headers for different topics and then drag and drop paragraphs, quotes, ideas, etc into the headers or buckets I've created. When one header becomes too full and fills too much of the screen, I collapse it, so that it hides all the paragraphs already there, which cleans up the screen. When I'm done with this step, I have half a dozen headers, under which are many different ideas, all of which are completely hidden. So I drag and drop my half a dozen headers into the correct order. Then I open the first main header and create a bunch of subheaders. Once this is done, I reorganize all of the points in this first section into subsections or sub-buckets, collapsing them all as needed until everything is organized into a number of different subheaders. At this point, I can rearrange all of these subheaders into the best order that they belong in. I can even drag a subheader into a different main heading if I choose, where it will remain as a separate section. I can repeat this process as many levels as I wish. This feature in MS Word is fractal to nine levels. From a chaotic mixture of confusion emerges order, insight, and wisdom--in one single step. As a technical writer, I used to sit in a brainstorming meetings, write down every developer idea as fast as I could (including those I didn't understand at all), type it all
