[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice books discount price
On 3 December 2013 00:00, Jean Weber wrote: > Lulu.com, where the printed copies of the LibreOffice user guides are > published and sold, is having a sale: 30% off until midnight on > Thursday, December 5, US east coast time. > > The code is: LULUVIP6131 > > Direct link to LO books: http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/opendocument > > Note: the 30% off discount coupon is applied to the prices shown as > already being 30% off the "List price". And you have to scroll down a > bit to find the Getting Started Guide. There are 7 books in total for > LO 4.x. > > Please spread the word, including on other lists, social media, etc. > (Of course, PDFs are always free from our website and wiki.) > > --Jean > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Hi :) This link might be useful http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ If you want to read only certain threads and not others then after unsubscribing try re-subscribing using one of the more advanced options described on the page that shows how to subscribe. For example getting a weekly digest and then reading individual threads through Nabble might be a good way. See the "nomail" option described near the bottom of this page http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/#Notes This link for Nabble (or navigate to it from the LibreOffice website http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/ Regards from Tom :) On 3 December 2013 05:21, Cormac Terry wrote: > How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? > I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. > Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? > sincerely, > Cormac Terry > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] email notifications
How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I set default date format in Writer?
anne-ology wrote: > Just curiously wondering how many seconds would be saved by not merely > typing the date into document ;-) This is for those who do not know what today's date is. jonathon -- Sent from the eating establishment at the Far side of the Universe, at the begining of Time, and at the end of Space. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Licenses
Mario, The short answer YES! The license allows you to install LibreOffice on as many computers as you want for whatever purpose you wish. LO is is libre and free to download, install, use, and (if you wish) modify - you are entitled to a full copy of the LO source code. For further license information and full copy see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html Jay On 12/02/2013 03:54 PM, m.simard.crditedla...@.gouv.qc.ca wrote: Hi, Can I use this software in my company for professionnal uses ? thanks Mario Simard -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Licenses
Hi, Can I use this software in my company for professionnal uses ? thanks Mario Simard -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Sponsors and supporters of TDF and LO, was: Fwd: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office
Hi. A search of the list for sender fsf.org will give you a hit. Steve On 2013-12-03 02:18, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Tom, I'm not asking you to snitch, all this is public record. I just believe that no one from the FSF is contributing to LibreOffice under this specific affiliation, but I may be wrong. As for Red Hat, Canonical et al: they're officially involved in the development of LibreOffice and are sponsors as well. Best, Charles. Le Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:08:41 +, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) Errr, i didn't mean to "drop anyone in it" or snitch or anything. We see people from other supporter organisations too, such as people with Redhat addresses or SuSE ones. I'm fairly sure i've even seen posts from people with a Canonical address. The point was that it feels more like they really are supporters if they are directly involved in the day-to-day. If there is no neutral 3rd party organisation actively promoting ODF then it falls to each individual or each individual company to do a bit and i think that is kinda working. Perhaps not quite as well as some would like but it's still improving on the position 3-4 years ago. People seem less shocked when they get a format they are unfamiliar with. Regards from Tom :) On 2 December 2013 09:32, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Le Mon, 2 Dec 2013 09:21:08 +, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) It feels like a lot of the sponsors and supporters of TDF (or anything else for that matter) do a lot of work at such a high level or so far outside of the immediate organisation that very few people inside the organisation really realise they are involved at all. Well... I think the awareness is there. We talk to the FSF, we are at the OASIS, we are part of OSI, etc. On these LibreOffice mailing lists we see people with FSF email addresses actively helping along the same lines as everyone else here. Who? - seriously, I'd be interested to know if the FSF is here helping users or otherwise contributing: it's rather far-fetched from their work. On a side-issue, it often makes sense for the people who make a thing to be the promoters of it. Since ODF Alliance seems pretty much dead now then maybe OASIS could take on that functionality? OASIS are already an established neutral 3rd party and even though MS are a member they are only 1 member amongst 5,000. On the other hand i am really beginning to like the idea of just carrying on doing a bit of ODF promotion from within the various companies that use it. Yes indeed. The OASIS only produces/develops ODF. There was an ODF adoption TC that attempted to coordinate promotion activities on ODF but it folded one year ago or less, and that's not coming back I'm afraid. Best, Charles. Regards from Tom :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Charles-H. Schulz Date: 2 December 2013 09:04 Subject: Re: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office To: users@global.libreoffice.org Le Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:09:57 +, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) I think the largest company in the eco-system is beginning to be TDF! IBM is larger but it doesn't seem to want to be a big name in office desktops. Does the ODF Alliance still exist? Their website seems to be dead or perhaps just very out-of-date. Perhaps people from TDF could get involved in updating it? We don't control anything on the ODF Alliance website, which was never an actual entity and today it's been left inactive for several years already. Perhaps Apache might be interested in giving it a boost too? Perhaps it's just that it's main reasons for existence are over now? That is what some would call an insightful remark :-) OASIS is a LOT more lively. Last i heard there were some (or at least 1) people from TDF involved in that. oh there are more, but keep in mind the OASIS is where ODF is "made", not from where it gets promoted. The OASIS is a standards consortium, not an advocacy group. Also there seems to be TDF people involved in FSF (or is it FSF people involved in TDF?). Anyway, either way is good. I think it's the opposite, FSF is a sponsor of TDF. Best, Charles. Regards from Tom :) On 1 December 2013 16:40, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 01/12/13 14:14, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Today, things are very different: - the ODF ecosystem is not so unified (and to explain why probably needs a whitepaper) Unfortunately, the largest company in the ecosystem is now focused on other objectives, and has been instrumental in splitting the ecosystem (and keeping it divided, in a way which makes it probably impossible to reunite). - Microsoft implements ODF... in a serious and very efficient way. We should be more effective in leveraging MS ODF support, though. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-
[libreoffice-users] How to place subscript indices close to the variable they belong to in the equation editor?
Hello everybody,
I'm using LibreOffice to write my thesis, and since it is going to be a
technical document quite a lot of equations are used containing lots of
variables with subscript indices. Unfortunately the equation editor is
positioning these indices rather far away from the variable they belong to.
If another variable follows it almost looks like the indices belong to this
variable.
Here is a simple example: size 11{ital{f_{0}f^{1}_{0}}}
This problem does not occur when writing the variable plus subscript indices
as italic letters in Writer. Also in the MS Word equation editor this
problem is non-existent/solved as it can be seen in the following picture
This "imperfection" (mathematically the equation is still correct,
nevertheless everybody notices the misalignement even without a
science-orientated background, but worst of all my professor of course)
seems to result from the combination of italic font style, whereas equations
should basically be written italic in scientific papers, and placeholders in
the editor. The italic style leads to letters which could be fit into a
parallelogramm rather then into a rectangle like the non-italic letters.
Therefore the distance from the lower side of the variable to the subscript
indices is increased if the placeholder of the indices is not adjusted
correctly, i.e. moved to the left side along with the parallelogramm.
Until now I haven't found a solution to horizontally adjust the subscript
indices position, only vertical re-positioning is offered by the editor.
Does anybody know a work-around for this problem? Or could this issue be
fixed in one of the next versions of LibreOffice?
Here some more information is added, i.e. screenshots and further
explanations:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72053
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.
Kind regards
Manuel
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to draw Square around math/formula??
Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 03:36:50PM -0500, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: > can you insert the formula into a frame and then give the frame a border? > what worked was to create the frame, then, using LO|formula, type the formula inside the frame. enlarging the font enlarges the frame. ---that's as far as I got. ;-) PS: I'll post the results on www.thought.org when I have it figured out. > On 11/30/2013 05:01 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. > >Of_Interest: With 27 years of service to the Unix community. > > > > > > hi guys, > > > > I've tried everything I ccan think of [ besides asking various > > lists ] without any luck. what I am trying to do *seems* simple, > > but no-joy. > > > > I have a simple equsion that I want to put INSIDE a square. can > > any libreoffice wizards clue me in? > > > > (The formula string is simply: > > > >int from a to R lim R rightarrow infinity > > > > and you guys can imaging what that outputs. ) > > > > How, then, do I get libreoffice|formula to create a > > medium-thickness "square" that I can save as, say, "Integraly.pdf". > > > > tia, > > > > gary kline > > > > > > -- > Andrew Pitonyak > My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt > Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-seven years of service to the Unix community. http://www.thought.org/HOPE -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office
Robert Holtzman wrote: >> Linux is a clone of UNIX, an epitome of a proprietary operating system. > Wrong yet again, oh trolling one. Linux was derived from minix. > Actually, Linux created Linux in part because he found Minix so limiting. However, the goal of both was a Unix like environment. The interesting thing is that many of the GNU apps, developed for Linux, have found their way to the various commercial Unixes. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 01:32:35AM +0700, Urmas wrote: > "James Knott": > > >Ever hear of Linux? > > Linux is a clone of UNIX, an epitome of a proprietary operating system. Wrong yet again, oh trolling one. Linux was derived from minix. > > >it's the OS used on the space station. > > Proven a hoax by Agency. Citation? (that means prove it) -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office
yes, same here ... but it's like 'talking to a brick wall' ;-) From: James Knott Date: Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office To: users@global.libreoffice.org Urmas wrote: > "James Knott" сообщил(а) в новостях > следующее:529918d1.30...@rogers.com... > > ...and then hold [created documents] > hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office. > > There is immense number of software capable import DOC files, due to > their format being virtually unchanged since 1997 or 2007. Including > the Word Viewer, of course. > > The problem is so many are not aware of alternatives. If they want to access their documents, they think they have to pay MS. I do what I can to educate them. BTW, several years ago, I worked for a company that used OpenOfice. However, I suspect it was because they were too cheap to pay for MS Office. ;-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office
exactly; in fact, that's been Bill Gates' game plan from before he started MsFt. I've been opposed to his egotistical, arrogant thievery ... but too many folks seem to like that sort - even the British Monarchy ;-) BTW - just why did the Queen knight him ??? From: James Knott Date: Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office To: LibreOffice Urmas wrote: > Because people buy computers to work, not to tinker with. There are many who don't need Windows but are forced to pay for it with a computer. Take a look at the strong arm tactics MS has used over the years to see how they got to this point. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office
yes, "to maintain sales" ... and that's the problem ;-) rather than continuing forward, too many want to collect over & over again for the same thing ;-( and these make their product with built in obsolescence ;-( Quality has declined ... yet prices have escalated ;-( From: Jay Lozier Date: Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office To: users@global.libreoffice.org On 11/29/2013 07:21 AM, anne-ology wrote: But what I cannot understand is why the continual changing by any > ... > to improve - ok; but this continual changing makes it nearly > impossible to stay up-to-date; > > forinstance, the typewriter basically stayed the same - > yes, they electrified it, even adding memory ... yet the > operation of it remained as it had been ;-) > > forinstance, the automobile basically stayed the same - > yes, they switched the driver's seat, the ignition, horn, brake > placements ... yet the operation of it remained as it had been - > up until the electronics were added ;-) > > forinstance, the craftsman took pride in his workmanship - > then came advertising & the 'throw-away' society ;-( > > Are we better off with these changes or merely more 'n more > confused > & frustrated ;-) > > From me - the goofy, horse 'n buggy era-er ;-) > +1 The problem is with many software packages the basic functionality has been under development for 30+ years and for most packages the most useful/needed features have been added many years ago. So companies like MS are faced with how to convince/force users to stay on the upgrade treadmill to maintain sales. Also, MS faces the problem that MSO is dominant that they are likely to lose market share (and sales) in the future. > Date: Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office > > > Hi :) > > Thanks Pedro :) I am looking for criticism and for other points so > that i can write a much shorter and less emotional list and maybe give > a link to the "White Paper" that someone has been writing > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > On 29 November 2013 00:06, Pedro wrote: > >> Hi Tom >> >> >> Tom wrote >> >>> 2. The format stays the same between different versions of the >>> program. It is the same format used "natively" by many other programs >>> such as IBM Lotus Symphony, Google-docs, K.Office, Calligra and >>> others. Even MS Office 2013, and more recent, can open and use the >>> format which is an ISO format. >>> >> Actually this is not true. The file extension is the same but the format >> > has > >> been changing (that is why you have options to save to ODF 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 >> > and > >> 1.2 Extended) >> If you try to open an ODF 1.2 Extended file more complex than simple text >> with any other of those programs (even with some older versions of >> LibreOffice) you will find some incompatibilities... >> >> So, I agree with most of your points but this argument is shooting >> > yourself > >> on the foot. ODF does share that problem with MS XML files: same >> > extension, > >> different file structure. >> >> The advantage is that you can always get the latest LibreOffice version >> > for > >> free (unlike MS Office...) >> >> Cheers, >> Pedro >> >> -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I set default date format in Writer?
Just curiously wondering how many seconds would be saved by not merely typing the date into document ;-) Robots taking over the world ... wow, what a scarey thought ;-) me - ready to return to the horse 'n buggy era, From: Denis Navas Vega Date: Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 11:54 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I set default date format in Writer? To: users@global.libreoffice.org El 2013-11-30 12:03 a.m., fos escribió: How can I set the date format in Writer so that whenever I select > INSERT->FIELDS->DATE it will insert a hard > December 31, 1999 (for example) instead of the 12/31/99 which is totally > inappropriate for correspondence. > I wish too, have a configurable date format. I inspected a document created with the following ad-hoc date format: domingo, 1 de diciembre del 2013 The date is registered with the following local style, not available in the style list. , de del The date field can't be saved in his fixed format as an automatic replaceable string of characters. I guess that the best approach is have a macro that inserts the date with the desired format and this macro is run when we create a paragraph with a style 'date', for instance. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge Salutation
At 11:39 30/11/2013 -0800, Andrew Brager wrote: I'm trying to do a mail merge using the wizard (is there any other way?), and I'm having great difficulty making it do what I need to do. My data has one field for the name. A sample name is "Gary L & Judy A Smith". I simply want it to say "Dear Gary L & Judy A Smith," or even better "Dear Gary & Judy Smith,". I'm unable to accomplish this simple task. Instead, the best I can come up with is "Dear Mrs. Gary L & Judy A Smith" which is close, but forces me to use a salutation I don't want. Turning off salutations means I don't get the "Dear anything, " which is not what I want either. I don't see any way to avoid the "Dear" in the automatic salutation, but that shouldn't be a problem. You can drop all sorts of data from your database into a mail merge letter, of course: indeed, one normally needs to do exactly that, not to send an exact copy of the same letter to everyone. So you can simply select not to have a salutation, but then to enter your plain "Dear " and a field for the name in the appropriate place in your letter - creating your own salutation. o Go to Insert | Fields > | Other... | Database. o Under Type, select Mail merge fields. o Under Database selection, expand your database and select the name field. (I think this is part of the answer to your "is there any other way?") I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Virus in Libre Office Fr ?
Hello Jean-Luc, Where did you download LibreOffice, what version and what virus are you talking about? Best, Charles. Le Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:33:09 +0100, jean-luc.barr...@schneider-electric.com a écrit : > Hi, > > > I have just installed Libre Office, last version Fr and I have got > simultaneously a virus on my machine. > > Can you please check ? > > Thanks. > J-Luc Barraud > _ > > > > Jean-Luc Barraud | Schneider Electric | Industry Business | > Sensors - Test, Industrial Computers & Automation Eng. - Advanced > Manufacturing > Phone: +33(0)5 45 37 21 68 | Fax: +33(0)5 45 37 23 78 | > Email: jean-luc.barr...@fr.schneider-electric.com | Site: > www.schneider-electric.com | Address: ZI N°3 - F-16340 l'Isle > d'Espagnac > *** Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Virus in Libre Office Fr ?
On 02/12/2013 10:33, jean-luc.barr...@schneider-electric.com wrote: Hi Jean-Luc, > > I have just installed Libre Office, last version Fr and I have got > simultaneously a virus on my machine. > > Can you please check ? >From which web page did you download LibreOffice ? If it wasn't this one (I assume you wanted a French version) : http://fr.libreoffice.org/telecharger/ or the equivalent English page, then you might have downloaded it from a less than reliable source. Also, it is worth bearing in mind that some antivirus programs flag LibreOffice as a false positive infected application. Without more information, it will be difficult to offer you much more help. Also note that if you require help in French, there are French mailing lists and a French "request help" form, where you can ask questions and volunteers will attempt to reply to them in French. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge Salutation
Hi :) Sorry you don't seem to have had any answers! Have you been able to solve the problem? If not then it might be worth asking again to see if anyone missed it before or if anyone new has arrived. I get the impression that whatever the wizard produces is possible to edit quite heavily? Also i think it might be better to start with a fresh empty Writer document and use Mail-merge to connect it to a database and then you can insert fields into appropriate paces and edit the whole document as a fairly normal Writer document. I think the limitation on that is that it won't let you input new data into the database that way. Regards from Tom :) On 30 November 2013 19:39, Andrew wrote: > I'm trying to do a mail merge using the wizard (is there any other way?), > and I'm having great difficulty making it do what I need to do. > > My data has one field for the name. A sample name is "Gary L & Judy A > Smith". I simply want it to say "Dear Gary L & Judy A Smith," or even > better "Dear Gary & Judy Smith,". **I'm unable to accomplish this simple > task. Instead, the best I can come up with is "Dear Mrs. Gary L & Judy A > Smith"**which is close, but forces me to use a salutation I don't want. > Turning off salutations means I don't get the "Dear anything, " which is not > what I want either.* > * > Can someone walk me through the proper sequence to get this specific result? > > Thank you in advance.* > * > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Virus in Libre Office Fr ?
Hi, I have just installed Libre Office, last version Fr and I have got simultaneously a virus on my machine. Can you please check ? Thanks. J-Luc Barraud _ Jean-Luc Barraud | Schneider Electric | Industry Business | Sensors - Test, Industrial Computers & Automation Eng. - Advanced Manufacturing Phone: +33(0)5 45 37 21 68 | Fax: +33(0)5 45 37 23 78 | Email: jean-luc.barr...@fr.schneider-electric.com | Site: www.schneider-electric.com | Address: ZI N°3 - F-16340 l'Isle d'Espagnac *** Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Sponsors and supporters of TDF and LO, was: Fwd: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office
Tom, I'm not asking you to snitch, all this is public record. I just believe that no one from the FSF is contributing to LibreOffice under this specific affiliation, but I may be wrong. As for Red Hat, Canonical et al: they're officially involved in the development of LibreOffice and are sponsors as well. Best, Charles. Le Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:08:41 +, Tom Davies a écrit : > Hi :) > Errr, i didn't mean to "drop anyone in it" or snitch or anything. We > see people from other supporter organisations too, such as people with > Redhat addresses or SuSE ones. I'm fairly sure i've even seen posts > from people with a Canonical address. The point was that it feels > more like they really are supporters if they are directly involved in > the day-to-day. > > If there is no neutral 3rd party organisation actively promoting ODF > then it falls to each individual or each individual company to do a > bit and i think that is kinda working. Perhaps not quite as well as > some would like but it's still improving on the position 3-4 years > ago. People seem less shocked when they get a format they are > unfamiliar with. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > On 2 December 2013 09:32, Charles-H. Schulz > wrote: > > Le Mon, 2 Dec 2013 09:21:08 +, > > Tom Davies a écrit : > > > >> Hi :) > >> It feels like a lot of the sponsors and supporters of TDF (or > >> anything else for that matter) do a lot of work at such a high > >> level or so far outside of the immediate organisation that very > >> few people inside the organisation really realise they are > >> involved at all. > > > > Well... I think the awareness is there. We talk to the FSF, we are > > at the OASIS, we are part of OSI, etc. > > > >> > >> On these LibreOffice mailing lists we see people with FSF email > >> addresses actively helping along the same lines as everyone else > >> here. > > > > Who? - seriously, I'd be interested to know if the FSF is here > > helping users or otherwise contributing: it's rather far-fetched > > from their work. > > > >> > >> > >> On a side-issue, it often makes sense for the people who make a > >> thing to be the promoters of it. Since ODF Alliance seems pretty > >> much dead now then maybe OASIS could take on that functionality? > >> OASIS are already an established neutral 3rd party and even though > >> MS are a member they are only 1 member amongst 5,000. On the > >> other hand i am really beginning to like the idea of just carrying > >> on doing a bit of ODF promotion from within the various companies > >> that use it. > > > > > > Yes indeed. The OASIS only produces/develops ODF. There was an ODF > > adoption TC that attempted to coordinate promotion activities on ODF > > but it folded one year ago or less, and that's not coming back I'm > > afraid. > > > > Best, > > > > Charles. > > > >> > >> Regards from > >> Tom :) > >> > >> > >> > >> -- Forwarded message -- > >> From: Charles-H. Schulz > >> Date: 2 December 2013 09:04 > >> Subject: Re: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS > >> Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to > >> new version of MS Office > >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org > >> > >> > >> Le Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:09:57 +, > >> Tom Davies a écrit : > >> > >> > Hi :) > >> > I think the largest company in the eco-system is beginning to be > >> > TDF! IBM is larger but it doesn't seem to want to be a big name > >> > in office desktops. > >> > > >> > Does the ODF Alliance still exist? Their website seems to be > >> > dead or perhaps just very out-of-date. Perhaps people from TDF > >> > could get involved in updating it? > >> > >> We don't control anything on the ODF Alliance website, which was > >> never an actual entity and today it's been left inactive for > >> several years already. > >> > >> >Perhaps Apache might be interested in giving > >> > it a boost too? Perhaps it's just that it's main reasons for > >> > existence are over now? > >> > >> That is what some would call an insightful remark :-) > >> > >> > >> > OASIS is a LOT more lively. Last i heard > >> > there were some (or at least 1) people from TDF involved in that. > >> > >> oh there are more, but keep in mind the OASIS is where ODF is > >> "made", not from where it gets promoted. The OASIS is a standards > >> consortium, not an advocacy group. > >> > >> > >> > Also there seems to be TDF people involved in FSF (or is it FSF > >> > people involved in TDF?). Anyway, either way is good. > >> > >> I think it's the opposite, FSF is a sponsor of TDF. > >> > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Charles. > >> > >> > > >> > Regards from > >> > Tom :) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 1 December 2013 16:40, Italo Vignoli > >> > wrote: > >> > > On 01/12/13 14:14, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Today, things are very different: > >> > >> - the ODF ecosystem is not so unified (and to explain why > >> > >> probably needs a whitepaper) > >> > > > >> > > Unfortunately, the largest company
[libreoffice-users] Re: Detailed information on frame positioning Writer
On 12/1/2013 3:48 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 11/30/2013 08:38 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: Is there a source for detailed information on frame positioning in Writer? Thanks, Let me provide some context around Mr. O'Brien. 1. He is very smart. 2. He is well versed with OpenOffice. Sufficiently well versed, that I have seen him (in person) teach detailed classes on OpenOffice. In other words, I assume that he has looked in the obvious places. That said, and because Mr. Drescher asked, consider this link: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/9/96/WG40-WriterGuideLO.odt Thanks Andrew bill -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Sponsors and supporters of TDF and LO, was: Fwd: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office
Hi :) Errr, i didn't mean to "drop anyone in it" or snitch or anything. We see people from other supporter organisations too, such as people with Redhat addresses or SuSE ones. I'm fairly sure i've even seen posts from people with a Canonical address. The point was that it feels more like they really are supporters if they are directly involved in the day-to-day. If there is no neutral 3rd party organisation actively promoting ODF then it falls to each individual or each individual company to do a bit and i think that is kinda working. Perhaps not quite as well as some would like but it's still improving on the position 3-4 years ago. People seem less shocked when they get a format they are unfamiliar with. Regards from Tom :) On 2 December 2013 09:32, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Le Mon, 2 Dec 2013 09:21:08 +, > Tom Davies a écrit : > >> Hi :) >> It feels like a lot of the sponsors and supporters of TDF (or anything >> else for that matter) do a lot of work at such a high level or so far >> outside of the immediate organisation that very few people inside the >> organisation really realise they are involved at all. > > Well... I think the awareness is there. We talk to the FSF, we are at > the OASIS, we are part of OSI, etc. > >> >> On these LibreOffice mailing lists we see people with FSF email >> addresses actively helping along the same lines as everyone else here. > > Who? - seriously, I'd be interested to know if the FSF is here > helping users or otherwise contributing: it's rather far-fetched from > their work. > >> >> >> On a side-issue, it often makes sense for the people who make a thing >> to be the promoters of it. Since ODF Alliance seems pretty much dead >> now then maybe OASIS could take on that functionality? OASIS are >> already an established neutral 3rd party and even though MS are a >> member they are only 1 member amongst 5,000. On the other hand i am >> really beginning to like the idea of just carrying on doing a bit of >> ODF promotion from within the various companies that use it. > > > Yes indeed. The OASIS only produces/develops ODF. There was an ODF > adoption TC that attempted to coordinate promotion activities on ODF > but it folded one year ago or less, and that's not coming back I'm > afraid. > > Best, > > Charles. > >> >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Charles-H. Schulz >> Date: 2 December 2013 09:04 >> Subject: Re: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office >> relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new >> version of MS Office >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >> >> >> Le Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:09:57 +, >> Tom Davies a écrit : >> >> > Hi :) >> > I think the largest company in the eco-system is beginning to be >> > TDF! IBM is larger but it doesn't seem to want to be a big name in >> > office desktops. >> > >> > Does the ODF Alliance still exist? Their website seems to be dead >> > or perhaps just very out-of-date. Perhaps people from TDF could get >> > involved in updating it? >> >> We don't control anything on the ODF Alliance website, which was never >> an actual entity and today it's been left inactive for several years >> already. >> >> >Perhaps Apache might be interested in giving >> > it a boost too? Perhaps it's just that it's main reasons for >> > existence are over now? >> >> That is what some would call an insightful remark :-) >> >> >> > OASIS is a LOT more lively. Last i heard >> > there were some (or at least 1) people from TDF involved in that. >> >> oh there are more, but keep in mind the OASIS is where ODF is "made", >> not from where it gets promoted. The OASIS is a standards consortium, >> not an advocacy group. >> >> >> > Also there seems to be TDF people involved in FSF (or is it FSF >> > people involved in TDF?). Anyway, either way is good. >> >> I think it's the opposite, FSF is a sponsor of TDF. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Charles. >> >> > >> > Regards from >> > Tom :) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 1 December 2013 16:40, Italo Vignoli >> > wrote: >> > > On 01/12/13 14:14, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: >> > > >> > >> Today, things are very different: >> > >> - the ODF ecosystem is not so unified (and to explain why >> > >> probably needs a whitepaper) >> > > >> > > Unfortunately, the largest company in the ecosystem is now focused >> > > on other objectives, and has been instrumental in splitting the >> > > ecosystem (and keeping it divided, in a way which makes it >> > > probably impossible to reunite). >> > > >> > >> - Microsoft implements ODF... in a serious and very efficient >> > >> way. >> > > >> > > We should be more effective in leveraging MS ODF support, though. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com >> > > mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org >> > > skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com >> > > >> > > -- >> > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> >
Re: Sponsors and supporters of TDF and LO, was: Fwd: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office
Le Mon, 2 Dec 2013 09:21:08 +, Tom Davies a écrit : > Hi :) > It feels like a lot of the sponsors and supporters of TDF (or anything > else for that matter) do a lot of work at such a high level or so far > outside of the immediate organisation that very few people inside the > organisation really realise they are involved at all. Well... I think the awareness is there. We talk to the FSF, we are at the OASIS, we are part of OSI, etc. > > On these LibreOffice mailing lists we see people with FSF email > addresses actively helping along the same lines as everyone else here. Who? - seriously, I'd be interested to know if the FSF is here helping users or otherwise contributing: it's rather far-fetched from their work. > > > On a side-issue, it often makes sense for the people who make a thing > to be the promoters of it. Since ODF Alliance seems pretty much dead > now then maybe OASIS could take on that functionality? OASIS are > already an established neutral 3rd party and even though MS are a > member they are only 1 member amongst 5,000. On the other hand i am > really beginning to like the idea of just carrying on doing a bit of > ODF promotion from within the various companies that use it. Yes indeed. The OASIS only produces/develops ODF. There was an ODF adoption TC that attempted to coordinate promotion activities on ODF but it folded one year ago or less, and that's not coming back I'm afraid. Best, Charles. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Charles-H. Schulz > Date: 2 December 2013 09:04 > Subject: Re: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office > relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new > version of MS Office > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > Le Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:09:57 +, > Tom Davies a écrit : > > > Hi :) > > I think the largest company in the eco-system is beginning to be > > TDF! IBM is larger but it doesn't seem to want to be a big name in > > office desktops. > > > > Does the ODF Alliance still exist? Their website seems to be dead > > or perhaps just very out-of-date. Perhaps people from TDF could get > > involved in updating it? > > We don't control anything on the ODF Alliance website, which was never > an actual entity and today it's been left inactive for several years > already. > > >Perhaps Apache might be interested in giving > > it a boost too? Perhaps it's just that it's main reasons for > > existence are over now? > > That is what some would call an insightful remark :-) > > > > OASIS is a LOT more lively. Last i heard > > there were some (or at least 1) people from TDF involved in that. > > oh there are more, but keep in mind the OASIS is where ODF is "made", > not from where it gets promoted. The OASIS is a standards consortium, > not an advocacy group. > > > > Also there seems to be TDF people involved in FSF (or is it FSF > > people involved in TDF?). Anyway, either way is good. > > I think it's the opposite, FSF is a sponsor of TDF. > > > Best, > > Charles. > > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > On 1 December 2013 16:40, Italo Vignoli > > wrote: > > > On 01/12/13 14:14, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > > > > >> Today, things are very different: > > >> - the ODF ecosystem is not so unified (and to explain why > > >> probably needs a whitepaper) > > > > > > Unfortunately, the largest company in the ecosystem is now focused > > > on other objectives, and has been instrumental in splitting the > > > ecosystem (and keeping it divided, in a way which makes it > > > probably impossible to reunite). > > > > > >> - Microsoft implements ODF... in a serious and very efficient > > >> way. > > > > > > We should be more effective in leveraging MS ODF support, though. > > > > > > -- > > > Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com > > > mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org > > > skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > > Problems? > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > > Posting guidelines + more: > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > > > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages > > > sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > > > > > > -- > Charles-H. Schulz > Co-founder, The Document Foundation, > Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin > Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts > Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Al
Sponsors and supporters of TDF and LO, was: Fwd: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office
Hi :) It feels like a lot of the sponsors and supporters of TDF (or anything else for that matter) do a lot of work at such a high level or so far outside of the immediate organisation that very few people inside the organisation really realise they are involved at all. On these LibreOffice mailing lists we see people with FSF email addresses actively helping along the same lines as everyone else here. On a side-issue, it often makes sense for the people who make a thing to be the promoters of it. Since ODF Alliance seems pretty much dead now then maybe OASIS could take on that functionality? OASIS are already an established neutral 3rd party and even though MS are a member they are only 1 member amongst 5,000. On the other hand i am really beginning to like the idea of just carrying on doing a bit of ODF promotion from within the various companies that use it. Regards from Tom :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Charles-H. Schulz Date: 2 December 2013 09:04 Subject: Re: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office To: users@global.libreoffice.org Le Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:09:57 +, Tom Davies a écrit : > Hi :) > I think the largest company in the eco-system is beginning to be TDF! > IBM is larger but it doesn't seem to want to be a big name in office > desktops. > > Does the ODF Alliance still exist? Their website seems to be dead or > perhaps just very out-of-date. Perhaps people from TDF could get > involved in updating it? We don't control anything on the ODF Alliance website, which was never an actual entity and today it's been left inactive for several years already. >Perhaps Apache might be interested in giving > it a boost too? Perhaps it's just that it's main reasons for > existence are over now? That is what some would call an insightful remark :-) > OASIS is a LOT more lively. Last i heard > there were some (or at least 1) people from TDF involved in that. oh there are more, but keep in mind the OASIS is where ODF is "made", not from where it gets promoted. The OASIS is a standards consortium, not an advocacy group. > Also there seems to be TDF people involved in FSF (or is it FSF people > involved in TDF?). Anyway, either way is good. I think it's the opposite, FSF is a sponsor of TDF. Best, Charles. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > On 1 December 2013 16:40, Italo Vignoli > wrote: > > On 01/12/13 14:14, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > > >> Today, things are very different: > >> - the ODF ecosystem is not so unified (and to explain why probably > >> needs a whitepaper) > > > > Unfortunately, the largest company in the ecosystem is now focused > > on other objectives, and has been instrumental in splitting the > > ecosystem (and keeping it divided, in a way which makes it probably > > impossible to reunite). > > > >> - Microsoft implements ODF... in a serious and very efficient way. > > > > We should be more effective in leveraging MS ODF support, though. > > > > -- > > Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com > > mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org > > skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent > > to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Formats & failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office
Le Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:09:57 +, Tom Davies a écrit : > Hi :) > I think the largest company in the eco-system is beginning to be TDF! > IBM is larger but it doesn't seem to want to be a big name in office > desktops. > > Does the ODF Alliance still exist? Their website seems to be dead or > perhaps just very out-of-date. Perhaps people from TDF could get > involved in updating it? We don't control anything on the ODF Alliance website, which was never an actual entity and today it's been left inactive for several years already. >Perhaps Apache might be interested in giving > it a boost too? Perhaps it's just that it's main reasons for > existence are over now? That is what some would call an insightful remark :-) > OASIS is a LOT more lively. Last i heard > there were some (or at least 1) people from TDF involved in that. oh there are more, but keep in mind the OASIS is where ODF is "made", not from where it gets promoted. The OASIS is a standards consortium, not an advocacy group. > Also there seems to be TDF people involved in FSF (or is it FSF people > involved in TDF?). Anyway, either way is good. I think it's the opposite, FSF is a sponsor of TDF. Best, Charles. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > On 1 December 2013 16:40, Italo Vignoli > wrote: > > On 01/12/13 14:14, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > > >> Today, things are very different: > >> - the ODF ecosystem is not so unified (and to explain why probably > >> needs a whitepaper) > > > > Unfortunately, the largest company in the ecosystem is now focused > > on other objectives, and has been instrumental in splitting the > > ecosystem (and keeping it divided, in a way which makes it probably > > impossible to reunite). > > > >> - Microsoft implements ODF... in a serious and very efficient way. > > > > We should be more effective in leveraging MS ODF support, though. > > > > -- > > Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com > > mob +39.348.5653829 - sip/jabber it...@libreoffice.org > > skype italovignoli - hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent > > to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office
Hi :) Not all of us are native-English speakers so words are sometimes mis-used. Clone is not quite the right word but it's close enough. This time i think a more precise word might be "rewrite". To put it in a way that might be easier for an office user to understand ... Often when editing an old document it's easiest to just change a few word here or there but other times it is easier to start again from scratch and rewrite it from scratch. Also when people say Linux they usually mean "Gnu and Linux" which the FSF wants us to write as Gnu/Linux. The Gnu programs kinda sit on top of the Linux kernel rather than being divided by it so i feel the / is the wrong character and it might be better to say Gnu&Linux to show that the kernel is just 1 package amongst many. The Gnu people are trying to write their own kernel called Hurd but it's rarely used. Regards from Tom :) On 2 December 2013 02:56, Peter West wrote: > Typo there. Obviously you meant to say "non-proprietary." > > Peter West > > ...he saw a poor widow put in two copper coins. > > On 2 Dec 2013, at 4:32 am, Urmas wrote: > >> "James Knott": >> >>> Ever hear of Linux? >> >> Linux is a clone of UNIX, an epitome of a proprietary operating system. > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
