Re: [libreoffice-users] ver. 4.2 copy/past bug

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If something worked and suddenly stopped working as if by magic then
the first thing to try is to rename your User Profile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

Renaming is better than deleting because you might have tons of stuff
in your profile (templates, galleries, Extensions, file-backups etc)
that you don't want to lose.  If renaming or deleting the User Profile
DOES work then you might be able to copy chunks of your old one back
and that can be a good way of trouble-shooting down to pin-point the
problem.  If you have deleted the User Profile then that is, of
course, impossible.  If you just renamed the User Profile then you can
leave the trouble-shooting to a day when you do find time (or never
but at least it's possible).  If renaming DOES NOT help then you could
rename the old one back without suffering any losses.

On the other hand it is quite possible that you don't have anything
exciting in your User Profile or that it might be a good time to start
afresh with reconfiguring LO's settings and with installing fresh
Extensions that you need now rather than trying to keep using ancient
ones or ancient versions of ones you don't really use any more.


If the problems happened straight after upgrading to a newer version
then reverting to an older version makes a LOT of sense.  Preferably
an x.x.4 or higher.  It's that 3rd digit that shows greater stability.
 The 4.1.4 should be about as solid as they get but some people are on
4.0.6 to get the extra stability of that although they miss out a lot
on features and compatibility with MS formats.  Although i have some
machines still on 3.5.(something) without really missing anything but
then my needs are modest for those machines.  Anyway, 4.1.4 is a good
release and it's worth carrying on following the 4.1.x branch as it
gets developed further and stability increases further.


However 30+ worksheets in a single file and 1Mb means it's quite a
huge file!  If you can't break it up easily (or even if you can but
don't want to) then it is well worth considering using a specialist
spreadsheeting program instead of Calc/Excel.  Both the later are
designed to integrate well with other modules/programs within an
office suite but means you are carrying extra baggage and your
computer is using resources to make it easy to switch into
Presentations, Drawing programs, and all sorts of stuff that you
probably don't need while using the spreadsheet.  A specialist tool
focussing resources on, and designed purely for handling, spreadsheets
might be better.

Gnumeric uses the same formats as Calc natively and can also handle
the relevant MS formats and is often found to out-perform Excel and
even Calc especially on low spec. machines.
http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric
From their News section the quick link to directly download their
latest Windows version is
http://people.gnome.org/~mortenw/gnumeric/gnumeric-1.12.9-20131128.exe
NOTE this directly downloads an Exe file!!!  I NEVER usually give
links like that because you don't know me and have no reason to trust
me so you really should try the first link and have a look around for
yourself before attempting any downloading!  The only reason i give it
this time is because i found it difficult to find on their site so i
just wanted to make it easier for you.

Regards from
Tom :)

On 17 February 2014 23:24, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:
 Tom,

 my thoughts FWIW. I would suggest restoring the latest version, deleting
 your user profile and trying again. This has been known to work in the past.

 What operating system are you using?

 is this an old file which has seen a number of different LO versions?

 Cheers

 On 18/02/14 03:33, Tom Cloyd wrote:

 I'm reverting to ver. 4.1.4.2, after spending almost 40 min. this morning
 trying to isolate a problem. I could reliable crash the problem by trying to
 copy two cells in Calc to another location in the same sheet. I got this
 error message:

 /vector::_M_range_check

 /I'm working and have no time to go beyond posting the problem here.
 That's just the reality of my life this Monday morning. I'd attempt a bug
 report, but every time I've tried that I've gotten lost in the sheer
 strangeness of the process. No time for that either.

 I can offer to share the spreadsheet in which the crash occurs, for what
 that's worth. It has maybe 30 sheets and is about a meg. in size. I did find
 that removing about 15 of the sheets appeared to stop the problem, for
 unknown reasons.

 t.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Crash Calc

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I don't know if it would help at all but have you read the section on
Macros in the Published Guides?  Chapter 13 in the Getting Started
guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

There is also an excellent guide written by Andrew Pitonyak
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Programmers
If it costs money it is apparently well worth it.  If not then grab it
quick as it really should cost something to buy!

Regards from
Tom :)




On 16 February 2014 09:58, informatichien informatich...@ymail.com wrote:
 Hello
 with these 2 macros called alternatively, I crash Calc after 10-50 calls.
 I feel like a memory leak, because before the crash there are abnormal
 signs: display another sheet, significant delay ...
 I call the macro NouvelleFacture with a list where I chose the name,
 then the macro Imprimer, it creates me a pdf and saves the current document
 (Odoc.Store)

 anyone have an idea?

 Thanks!


 Bonjour
 avec ces 2 macros appelées alternativement , je plante Calc au bout de 10 à
 50 appels.
 j'ai l'impression d'une fuite mémoire, car avant le plantage il y a des
 signes anormaux : affichage d'une autre feuille, delay important...
 j'appelle la macro Nouvelle Facture avec une liste déroulante ou je choisi
 le nom,
 puis la macro Imprimer, celle-ci me crée un pdf et enregistre le document en
 cours (Odoc.Store)

 quelqu'un aurait une idée?

 bonne journée!!


 Sub NouvelleFacture (Evt)
 dim oDoc as object
 dim Feuille as object
 Dim oRange As Object
 Dim oCellLire as object, oCellEcrire as object
 Dim i as Integer
 Dim l as Long, ll as Long
 Dim itemNum as Integer
 Dim Nom as string, Adr1 as string, Adr2 as string, Ville as string, Chambre
 as string
 oDoc=thiscomponent
 Feuille=oDoc.Sheets.getByName(Formules)
 itemNum = Evt.Source.SelectedItemPos + 1
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(3,9)'timer
 l= oCellLire.GetValue
 ll = Timer()
 l=ll-l
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(2,9)'drp impression, est vérifié à
 l'ouverture d'une nouvelle facture
 if oCellLire.GetValue = 0 AND l10 then
  i= MsgBox (La facture n'a pas été enregistrée, continuer?, 4 + 32 + 256,
 Attention)
  if i = 7 then
  exit sub
  End If
  if i = 6 then
 oCellEcrire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(3,9)'timer
 l = Timer()
 oCellEcrire.SetValue(l)
  End If
 else
  oCellLire.SetValue(0)
 End If
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(2,10) 'num facture
 i=oCellLire.Value
 Feuille=oDoc.Sheets.getByName(Clients)
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(0,itemNum) 'civi
 Nom = oCellLire.string   
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(1,itemNum) 'nom
 Nom = Nom  oCellLire.string   
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(2,itemNum) 'prénom
 Nom = Nom  oCellLire.string
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(3,itemNum) 'Adr1
 Adr1 = oCellLire.string
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(4,itemNum) 'Adr2
 Adr2 = oCellLire.string
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,itemNum) 'CP
 Ville  = oCellLire.string   
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(6,itemNum) 'Ville
 Ville  = Ville  oCellLire.string
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(7,itemNum) 'Chambre
 Chambre  = Chambre   oCellLire.string
 Feuille=oDoc.Sheets.getByName(FactureIndividuelle)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(0,14)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Facture N°  i)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,6)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Nom)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,7)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Adr1)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,8)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Adr2)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,9)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Ville)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,10)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Chambre)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(0,18,0,29)'(A19:A30)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(0,32,0,42)'(A33:E42)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(5,18,5,29)'(F18:F30)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(5,32,5,42)'(F33:F43)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(6,18,6,29)'(G19:G30)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(6,32,6,42)'(G33:G43)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(1,20) 'acte
 oCellEcrire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(1,20)
 oCellEcrire.Setstring(oCellLire.getstring)
 End Sub

 Sub Imprimer
 Dim oDoc As Object
 Dim FeuilleDep As Object, FeuilleArr As Object
 Dim oCellLire as object, oCellEcrire as object
 Dim Args1(2) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
 Dim Args2(2) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
 Dim Chemin As String, maDate As String
 Dim i as Integer, ExoLig As Integer, numCli As Integer, numFact As Integer
 Dim Client as String
 Dim DrpModif as integer
 oDoc = ThisComponent
 FeuilleDep = oDoc.Sheets.getByName(Formules)
 oCellLire = FeuilleDep.getCellByPosition(2,8)' DrpModif
 DrpModif = oCellLire.getvalue
 if DrpModif = 0 then
 oCellLire = 

Re: [libreoffice-users] plantage Calc

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sorry i didn't know the address of the French team so i just forwarded
this to here.  please pass it on!  I odn't know if informatichien is
on this or the French mailing lists so please make sure he/she is
included in replies! :)

The question was translated into English and posted on the English
mailing list but didn't receive any good responses.
Regards from
Tom :)


2014-02-16 9:50 GMT+00:00 informatichien informatich...@ymail.com:
 Bonjour
 avec ces 2 macros appelées alternativement , je plante Calc au bout de 10 à
 50 appels.
 j'ai l'impression d'une fuite mémoire, car avant le plantage il y a des
 signes anormaux : affichage d'une autre feuille, delay important...
 j'appelle la macro Nouvelle Facture avec une liste déroulante ou je choisi
 le nom,
 puis la macro Imprimer, celle-ci me crée un pdf et enregistre le document en
 cours (Odoc.Store)

 quelqu'un aurait une idée?

 bonne journée!!

 Sub NouvelleFacture (Evt)
 dim oDoc as object
 dim Feuille as object
 Dim oRange As Object
 Dim oCellLire as object, oCellEcrire as object
 Dim i as Integer
 Dim l as Long, ll as Long
 Dim itemNum as Integer
 Dim Nom as string, Adr1 as string, Adr2 as string, Ville as string, Chambre
 as string
 oDoc=thiscomponent
 Feuille=oDoc.Sheets.getByName(Formules)
 itemNum = Evt.Source.SelectedItemPos + 1
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(3,9)'timer
 l= oCellLire.GetValue
 ll = Timer()
 l=ll-l
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(2,9)'drp impression, est vérifié à
 l'ouverture d'une nouvelle facture
 if oCellLire.GetValue = 0 AND l10 then
  i= MsgBox (La facture n'a pas été enregistrée, continuer?, 4 + 32 + 256,
 Attention)
  if i = 7 then
  exit sub
  End If
  if i = 6 then
 oCellEcrire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(3,9)'timer
 l = Timer()
 oCellEcrire.SetValue(l)
  End If
 else
  oCellLire.SetValue(0)
 End If
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(2,10) 'num facture
 i=oCellLire.Value
 Feuille=oDoc.Sheets.getByName(Clients)
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(0,itemNum) 'civi
 Nom = oCellLire.string   
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(1,itemNum) 'nom
 Nom = Nom  oCellLire.string   
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(2,itemNum) 'prénom
 Nom = Nom  oCellLire.string
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(3,itemNum) 'Adr1
 Adr1 = oCellLire.string
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(4,itemNum) 'Adr2
 Adr2 = oCellLire.string
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,itemNum) 'CP
 Ville  = oCellLire.string   
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(6,itemNum) 'Ville
 Ville  = Ville  oCellLire.string
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(7,itemNum) 'Chambre
 Chambre  = Chambre   oCellLire.string
 Feuille=oDoc.Sheets.getByName(FactureIndividuelle)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(0,14)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Facture N°  i)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,6)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Nom)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,7)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Adr1)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,8)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Adr2)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,9)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Ville)
 oCellEcrire =  Feuille.getCellByPosition(5,10)
 oCellEcrire.SetString(Chambre)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(0,18,0,29)'(A19:A30)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(0,32,0,42)'(A33:E42)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(5,18,5,29)'(F18:F30)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(5,32,5,42)'(F33:F43)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(6,18,6,29)'(G19:G30)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oRange = Feuille.getCellRangeByPosition(6,32,6,42)'(G33:G43)
 oRange.clearContents(31)
 oCellLire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(1,20) 'acte
 oCellEcrire = Feuille.getCellByPosition(1,20)
 oCellEcrire.Setstring(oCellLire.getstring)
 End Sub

 Sub Imprimer
 Dim oDoc As Object
 Dim FeuilleDep As Object, FeuilleArr As Object
 Dim oCellLire as object, oCellEcrire as object
 Dim Args1(2) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
 Dim Args2(2) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
 Dim Chemin As String, maDate As String
 Dim i as Integer, ExoLig As Integer, numCli As Integer, numFact As Integer
 Dim Client as String
 Dim DrpModif as integer
 oDoc = ThisComponent
 FeuilleDep = oDoc.Sheets.getByName(Formules)
 oCellLire = FeuilleDep.getCellByPosition(2,8)' DrpModif
 DrpModif = oCellLire.getvalue
 if DrpModif = 0 then
 oCellLire = FeuilleDep.getCellByPosition(2,10) 'NumFacture
 numFact = oCellLire.getvalue
 oCellLire.setValue(numFact+1)
 else
 numFact = DrpModif
 End If
 oCellLire = FeuilleDep.getCellByPosition(2,8)' DrpModif
 oCellLire.SetValue(0)
 oCellLire = FeuilleDep.getCellByPosition (2,1) 'chemin
 Chemin = oCellLire.getString
 if Right(Chemin,1)  / then
 Chemin = Chemin  /
 End If
 oCellLire = FeuilleDep.getCellByPosition (5,5)'année
 i = oCellLire.getValue
 Chemin = Chemin  i  /
 oCellLire = FeuilleDep.getCellByPosition (4,5)'mois
 i = oCellLire.getValue
 oCellLire = 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Dropdown box in calc, mutliple columns

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I don't know but it sounds like it might be better to use a database
program for this sort of thing.  Base is good when used with an
external back-end.

Please let us know what Operating System you are using (Xp, Win7,
Ubuntu, Mac something or whatever).  Also might be good to know which
version of LibreOffice you are using! :)
Regards from
Tom :)

On 12 February 2014 13:36, Pat Brown mistyha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have two columns in calc. Column A has a list of items while column B has
 an associated cost. I want to be able to select from column A and have the
 item entered into a form (say column X) but I also want to automatically
 select the associated cost and have this entered into column Y, alongside
 its associated item. Is this possible in Calc, and how would I then set
 this up?

 Thanks,

 Paddy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Logo function

2014-02-18 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl

Thank you, Tom.
Yes, I reported it yesterday using 
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/. (Bug 75109).


Kolbjoern

Den 18.02.2014 10:35, skreiv Tom Davies:

Hi Kolbjoern :)
Report it!!
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
Hopefully you have reported it already since no-one responded sooner!
The QA/bug-squad team do 'triage' to confirm that it's a bug and if
it's not then they can close it easily.  It is good to report here
first except that in your case you are already heavily involved in the
project and likely to be wiser about the difference between user-error
and actual bug.  Plus you've been involved in a local language
documentation team so you have extra wisdom.  So while it's good for
most people to ask us jic we can solve the problem easily it;s better
if you personally just go ahead and post bugs without asking us on
this mailing list.

Your email looks just about perfect to copypaste to the bug-report
people although you might need to use their drop-downs to restate the
info you have already given in that email!


4.2.1 is not unstable.  It is just that it might possibly suffer from
unknown issues on some real-world machines.  However it's fairly rare
to actually find any problems with it at all.  Consider that this
mailing list is one of the first places that people come to grumble
when they find a problems and that about 2 years ago there were an
estimated 60 million users on LibreOffice.  We have under a dozen
grumbles per day.  AskLO and other places also have similarly low
numbers of grumbles to deal with.

On the other hand you are right that many of those can probably be
fixed easily by going back to the 4.1.4 or by waiting for the 4.2.4.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 16 February 2014 13:59, Kolbjørn Stuestøl kolbjo...@stuestoel.no wrote:

I am not able to define my own functions in LibreOffice Logo 4.2.1.1.

TO test
   FORWARD 20 ; or whatever command
END
test

does not works.
Nothing happens, not even an error message.
Some others having the same problem?
I think it is a bug, but before reporting it as such I would like to verify
that it really is a bug.

Using Windows 7
LibreOffice downloaded from http://no.libreoffice.org/last-ned-libreoffice/
Defining my own functions works in 4.1.
(Yes, I know that 4.2 is unstable and all that, but I am using it because I
am translating LO to Norwegian nynorsk).
Kolbjoern




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[libreoffice-users] paste to the edit box?

2014-02-18 Thread John R. Sowden
Is it possible to copy text, then paste it into the edit box in calc 4,x 
under ubuntu 13.10?  Now I have to put the cursor in the edit box, then 
click on edit- paste.


John


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Logo function

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi Kolbjoern :)
Report it!!
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
Hopefully you have reported it already since no-one responded sooner!
The QA/bug-squad team do 'triage' to confirm that it's a bug and if
it's not then they can close it easily.  It is good to report here
first except that in your case you are already heavily involved in the
project and likely to be wiser about the difference between user-error
and actual bug.  Plus you've been involved in a local language
documentation team so you have extra wisdom.  So while it's good for
most people to ask us jic we can solve the problem easily it;s better
if you personally just go ahead and post bugs without asking us on
this mailing list.

Your email looks just about perfect to copypaste to the bug-report
people although you might need to use their drop-downs to restate the
info you have already given in that email!


4.2.1 is not unstable.  It is just that it might possibly suffer from
unknown issues on some real-world machines.  However it's fairly rare
to actually find any problems with it at all.  Consider that this
mailing list is one of the first places that people come to grumble
when they find a problems and that about 2 years ago there were an
estimated 60 million users on LibreOffice.  We have under a dozen
grumbles per day.  AskLO and other places also have similarly low
numbers of grumbles to deal with.

On the other hand you are right that many of those can probably be
fixed easily by going back to the 4.1.4 or by waiting for the 4.2.4.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 16 February 2014 13:59, Kolbjørn Stuestøl kolbjo...@stuestoel.no wrote:
 I am not able to define my own functions in LibreOffice Logo 4.2.1.1.

TO test
   FORWARD 20 ; or whatever command
END
test

 does not works.
 Nothing happens, not even an error message.
 Some others having the same problem?
 I think it is a bug, but before reporting it as such I would like to verify
 that it really is a bug.

 Using Windows 7
 LibreOffice downloaded from http://no.libreoffice.org/last-ned-libreoffice/
 Defining my own functions works in 4.1.
 (Yes, I know that 4.2 is unstable and all that, but I am using it because I
 am translating LO to Norwegian nynorsk).
 Kolbjoern




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge Wizard fails in 4.2.0

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sorry for the lack of responses!  If it worked fine in 4.1.4 and
stopped working in 4.2.0 then it's worth reporting as a bug-report.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
Obviously it would be good to try 4.2.1 jic it has been fixed already
but bug-squad/QA can quickly close the ticket if it has been fixed but
you haven't had time to check it yourself.


The main reason it's good to ask this mailing list is if you are a new
user, perhaps more familiar with other office suites, and have not yet
read up much of the documentation nor gained years of experience using
LO/OOo/AOO.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 15 February 2014 12:58, Alex McMurchy
mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Has anyone else had a problem with the MailMerge Wizard in 4.2.0?

 In release 4.1.4 and all previous releases it produced the merged data.

 In release 4.2.0 it gives every indication that it is doing the business by 
 stepping, the correct number of times, through the records in the selected 
 address list. It produces the correct number of pages. Each page has the 
 address block in it. However, each address block is empty. I've tested this 
 on Slackware 14.1 and Windows XP.

 Has anyone else seen this. If so do you know if a bug has been created for 
 this. I've searched bugzilla and not found anything.

 Alex

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[libreoffice-users] Other teams and so-called bug-reports

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Many bugs for many projects are from noobs who simply don't know their
way around the programs yet.  Many so-called 'bugs' could be easily
closed by people who normally only consider working in direct User
Support (such as this mailing list) and by just giving people links to
documentation or giving a direct answer to the question.  Also many
people are not yet familiar with posting bug-reports and that IS
something this mailing list can help with, a bit.  So, again, for most
people it IS better to post on this mailing list but if you have been
involved for a couple of years or have read through several books of
the Published Guides then feel free to go ahead and post bug-reports
without asking permission! :D

Also if you are on this mailing list to answer question or have
unexpectedly found that you knew answers or if you are interested in
helping people solve issues then it might be a good time to join the
QA team to help close bug-reports that are really just a case of
someone new not knowing how to use LO.

This is also a good time to look into joining one of the low traffic
teams such as marketing, design (UI, icons, leaflets and more),
documentation, localisation/translation.

This mailing list saw a sharp drop-off and also a steady decrease in
traffic over the last year so now is a good time to start migrating to
other teams, such as those, where your skills and knowledge will be an
asset.

Also there are other places where questions get asked.  AskLO is one
obvious one but it would also be good to troll through the vast amount
of articles about LO out there and help people who write into the
comments section and clearly don't know their way to good places to
ask questions.  Please try to give them links to here, AskLO or the
official help page so they can get those links themselves and also
give them links to documentation such as here
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
because the wiki-link we usually give on this mailing list might be
confusing to such people.


I am NOT saying to leave this list!!  Just that if you have been here
a while then you are probably used to dealing with an exceptionally
high volume of traffic and might be finding yourself looking around
for other ways to keep busy and there is tons of great stuff out there
within the LO community.
Regards from
Tom :)

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[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Dropdown box in calc, mutliple columns

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I've been told off-list that Brian Barker did give the right answer to
this.  Something to do with VLook-up apparently.  So, this q is
completely solved
Regards from
Tom :)



On 18 February 2014 09:19, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi :)
 I don't know but it sounds like it might be better to use a database
 program for this sort of thing.  Base is good when used with an
 external back-end.

 Please let us know what Operating System you are using (Xp, Win7,
 Ubuntu, Mac something or whatever).  Also might be good to know which
 version of LibreOffice you are using! :)
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 12 February 2014 13:36, Pat Brown mistyha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have two columns in calc. Column A has a list of items while column B has
 an associated cost. I want to be able to select from column A and have the
 item entered into a form (say column X) but I also want to automatically
 select the associated cost and have this entered into column Y, alongside
 its associated item. Is this possible in Calc, and how would I then set
 this up?

 Thanks,

 Paddy

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Changes in the LO 4.3-dev start screen, intentilnal or bug?

2014-02-18 Thread Marco Zehe
Hi Tom,

yeah, my posting to the accessibility list was totally intentional,
since this was a question specifically related to the interaction of
LibreOffice with screen readers for the blind. There may not be a visual
difference between the 4.2 and 4.3.0 dev builds of this initial
LibreOffice screen at all, but the info exposed to assistive
technologies may indeed vary as the result of an unintentional change,
or an intentional one. :)

Marco

On 2/18/2014 11:48 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I am not even sure how to check on this but has anyone else tried
 running the 4.3.0 pre-beta-test release and able to see if there is a
 dialogue in the right place?

 Errr, Marco posted this to the Accessibility list so please make sure
 he is cc'd (or in the To field) into all replies!
 Thanks and regards from
 tom :)

 On 18 February 2014 09:06, Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi there!

 While testing the latest 4.3-dev build for a change related to bug
 74284, I noticed that the following Option pane from LibreOffice 4.2.0
 is no longer present in LibreOffice 4.3.0-dev, even from before the
 mentioned commit:

 Developer info for navigator object:
 name: u''
 role: ROLE_OPTIONPANE
 states:
 isFocusable: False
 hasFocus: False
 Python object: NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x057C8410
 Python class mro: (class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible', class
 'NVDAObjects.window.Window', class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject', class
 'baseObject.ScriptableObject', class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject',
 type 'object')
 description: u'Click an icon to open a new document or a file dialog.'
 location: (122, 186, 1418, 758)
 value: None
 appModule: 'soffice' (appName u'soffice', process ID 4320) at address
 56b1cb0
 appModule.productName: u'LibreOffice'
 appModule.productVersion: u'4.2.0.4'
 TextInfo: class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'
 windowHandle: 524558L
 windowClassName: u'SALFRAME'
 windowControlID: 0
 windowStyle: 349110272
 windowThreadID: 4328
 windowText: u'LibreOffice'
 displayText: u''
 IAccessibleObject: POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0xe74b964 at 57ec8a0
 IAccessibleChildID: 0
 IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=524558L, objectID=-4, childID=-62
 IAccessible accName: u''
 IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_CLIENT
 IAccessible accState:  (0)
 IAccessible accDescription: u'Click an icon to open a new document or a
 file dialog.'
 IAccessible accValue: None
 IAccessible2 windowHandle: 524558
 IAccessible2 uniqueID: -62
 IAccessible2 role: IA2_ROLE_OPTION_PANE
 IAccessible2 states:  (0)
 IAccessible2 attributes: exception: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error',
 (None, None, None, 0, None))

 Has this option pane really been removed from 4.3-dev visually, or is it
 just no longer accessible via a bug that was introduced?

 Regards,
 Marco



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[libreoffice-users] svg image format import bug

2014-02-18 Thread e-letter
Readers,

A bug has been reported about the failure of LO to display text
created with an svg image:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32248

Can anyone please confirm this occurs in the latest stable version
of LO writer?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: svg image format import bug

2014-02-18 Thread Pedro
Confirmed on 4.1 and 4.2 branch. Apparently this doesn't happen with all svg
files.  And inserting an svg with text within a document isn't a problem
either. 

According to Comment #13 from Dec 2013 this problem no longer occurs in
Apache OpenOffice so it is probably an easy task to migrate to LO the code
that fixes it...

It just requires finding someone with the knowledge and the interest in
doing that...



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[libreoffice-users] How to setup LO

2014-02-18 Thread Doug
Using LO on PCLOS-64-KDE. LO version 4.1 Writer.  I need to have two 
setups--I think you guys call them styles--one of which I will use
to edit imported documents, which will then be sent to a publisher, and 
the other of which I will use for new originations from me.


1. The _imported_ file should be printed in Times New Roman, at whatever 
pitch it comes in at--10, 12, 14, etc. It should have any quotation
marks or apostrophes that are straight lines converted to curly quotes. 
It should remove any paragraph indents. It should double space lines.
It should convert double word-spaces to single. It should never sub- or 
super- script anything automatically. When some other function is applied,
such as converting a portion of the text to fully justified, or changing 
type size, _nothing else should change_!


2. The _original_ document should be printed in Times New Roman, 12 
point, using smart quotes, single line spacing, no automatic super-
or sub- scripts, no paragraph indents, and when some other function is 
specified at work time, such as changing justification or centering, or

type size, _nothing else should change_!

Everything should be saved in /home/doug/Documents in Microsoft 
1997--2003 .doc format, regardless of what format it came in at. Always!


There should be some extremely easy way of selecting version 1 or 
version 2 above.


(I am not interested in any other features. I don't write books or 
college papers, or anything else, and I don't like surprises, such as

the whole format or layout changing when some simple change is applied.)

I would really appreciate if someone out there reading this could set 
this up for me. (I think number 1 is the difficult one--number 2 is almost
the default, I think (hope!).  I have a great deal of trouble with 
number 1--like when I try to set up curly quotes, the only way I know how

is to use the auto-format thing, and then all sorts of other things change.

Thanx--doug

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Re: [libreoffice-users] plantage Calc

2014-02-18 Thread Sophie
Bonjour
Le 16/02/2014 10:50, informatichien a écrit :
 Bonjour 
 avec ces 2 macros appelées alternativement , je plante Calc au bout de 10 à
 50 appels.
 j'ai l'impression d'une fuite mémoire, car avant le plantage il y a des
 signes anormaux : affichage d'une autre feuille, delay important...
 j'appelle la macro Nouvelle Facture avec une liste déroulante ou je choisi
 le nom, 
 puis la macro Imprimer, celle-ci me crée un pdf et enregistre le document en
 cours (Odoc.Store)
 
 quelqu'un aurait une idée?

Vous recevrez plus de réponses sur la liste francophone dont vous
trouverez les modalités d'inscription ici :
http://fr.libreoffice.org/forums/
La présente liste est en langue anglaise.

Translation:
You will get more answers on the French speaking list for which you will
find the subscription instructions here:
http://fr.libreoffice.org/forums/
The list here is an English speaking list.

Merci par avance
Cordialement
Sophie

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[libreoffice-users] Has anyone seem this 4.0 article, yet?

2014-02-18 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


I just received an e-newsletter that referred to this article.

nice looking small article with a slide show.

It seems to be listed in the Enterprise Apps section of eWeek's online 
articles.

It is nice to see LibreOffice and Enterprise go together.

LibreOffice 4.2 Office Suite Boasts New Features, Performance Boost
By Sean Michael Kerner  |  Posted 2014-02-03

http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/slideshows/libreoffice-4.2-office-suite-boasts-new-features-performance-boost.html

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Has anyone seem this 4.0 article, yet?

2014-02-18 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 I just received an e-newsletter that referred to this article.

I just read that article.  We must get the same newsletter.  :-)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Has anyone seem this 4.0 article, yet?

2014-02-18 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
I think Italo keeps track of this. And yes very nice article it is encouraging 
to do even  better :-)

Best, 

Charles. 

Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :

I just received an e-newsletter that referred to this article.

nice looking small article with a slide show.

It seems to be listed in the Enterprise Apps section of eWeek's
online 
articles.
It is nice to see LibreOffice and Enterprise go together.

LibreOffice 4.2 Office Suite Boasts New Features, Performance Boost
By Sean Michael Kerner  |  Posted 2014-02-03

http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/slideshows/libreoffice-4.2-office-suite-boasts-new-features-performance-boost.html

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other teams and so-called bug-reports

2014-02-18 Thread Sophie
Le 18/02/2014 11:07, Tom Davies a écrit :
 Hi :)
 Many bugs for many projects are from noobs who simply don't know their
 way around the programs yet.  Many so-called 'bugs' could be easily
 closed by people who normally only consider working in direct User
 Support (such as this mailing list) and by just giving people links to
 documentation or giving a direct answer to the question.  Also many
 people are not yet familiar with posting bug-reports and that IS
 something this mailing list can help with, a bit.  So, again, for most
 people it IS better to post on this mailing list but if you have been
 involved for a couple of years or have read through several books of
 the Published Guides then feel free to go ahead and post bug-reports
 without asking permission! :D
 
 Also if you are on this mailing list to answer question or have
 unexpectedly found that you knew answers or if you are interested in
 helping people solve issues then it might be a good time to join the
 QA team to help close bug-reports that are really just a case of
 someone new not knowing how to use LO.
 
 This is also a good time to look into joining one of the low traffic
 teams such as marketing, design (UI, icons, leaflets and more),
 documentation, localisation/translation.
 
 This mailing list saw a sharp drop-off and also a steady decrease in
 traffic over the last year so now is a good time to start migrating to
 other teams, such as those, where your skills and knowledge will be an
 asset.
 
 Also there are other places where questions get asked.  AskLO is one
 obvious one but it would also be good to troll through the vast amount
 of articles about LO out there and help people who write into the
 comments section and clearly don't know their way to good places to
 ask questions.  Please try to give them links to here, AskLO or the
 official help page so they can get those links themselves and also
 give them links to documentation such as here
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
 because the wiki-link we usually give on this mailing list might be
 confusing to such people.
 
 
 I am NOT saying to leave this list!!  Just that if you have been here
 a while then you are probably used to dealing with an exceptionally
 high volume of traffic and might be finding yourself looking around
 for other ways to keep busy and there is tons of great stuff out there
 within the LO community.

Thanks Tom!
Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: svg image format import bug

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I've had trouble in other programs with words in Svgs i've made in
Inkscape but haven't really explored it in LibreOffice for ages.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 18 February 2014 12:50, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Confirmed on 4.1 and 4.2 branch. Apparently this doesn't happen with all svg
 files.  And inserting an svg with text within a document isn't a problem
 either.

 According to Comment #13 from Dec 2013 this problem no longer occurs in
 Apache OpenOffice so it is probably an easy task to migrate to LO the code
 that fixes it...

 It just requires finding someone with the knowledge and the interest in
 doing that...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] ver. 4.2 copy/past bug

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
No worries!  It's what we are here for! :)

The thing in my answer was to try Gnumeric
http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric
instead of Calc/Excel for that 1 spreadsheet (or for all of them to
make it easier).


Renaming (or deleting) the User Profile seems to fix something like
90% of weird problems that suddenly start but didn't occur before.
It's a magic cure all worth knowing.  I prefer renaming so i can go
back (some day (if i ever get around to it)) to get details of why it
happened.  I keep meaning to back-up my User Profile when i get it
just right but keep forgetting.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 18 February 2014 15:56, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey, thanks, guys. That's a ton of help. I've a bit more time today, and
 will pursue the problem.

 There's also some great stuff in your email, Tom, for my carefully kept
 notes on LO, and especially on Calc., which I use a great deal every day.
 You took real time to give me that much info. I seriously appreciate this
 effort!

 Thank you both for the quick and thoughtful response.

 Tom

 On 02/18/2014 01:51 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 If something worked and suddenly stopped working as if by magic then
 the first thing to try is to rename your User Profile
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

 Renaming is better than deleting because you might have tons of stuff
 in your profile (templates, galleries, Extensions, file-backups etc)
 that you don't want to lose.  If renaming or deleting the User Profile
 DOES work then you might be able to copy chunks of your old one back
 and that can be a good way of trouble-shooting down to pin-point the
 problem.  If you have deleted the User Profile then that is, of
 course, impossible.  If you just renamed the User Profile then you can
 leave the trouble-shooting to a day when you do find time (or never
 but at least it's possible).  If renaming DOES NOT help then you could
 rename the old one back without suffering any losses.

 On the other hand it is quite possible that you don't have anything
 exciting in your User Profile or that it might be a good time to start
 afresh with reconfiguring LO's settings and with installing fresh
 Extensions that you need now rather than trying to keep using ancient
 ones or ancient versions of ones you don't really use any more.


 If the problems happened straight after upgrading to a newer version
 then reverting to an older version makes a LOT of sense.  Preferably
 an x.x.4 or higher.  It's that 3rd digit that shows greater stability.
   The 4.1.4 should be about as solid as they get but some people are on
 4.0.6 to get the extra stability of that although they miss out a lot
 on features and compatibility with MS formats.  Although i have some
 machines still on 3.5.(something) without really missing anything but
 then my needs are modest for those machines.  Anyway, 4.1.4 is a good
 release and it's worth carrying on following the 4.1.x branch as it
 gets developed further and stability increases further.


 However 30+ worksheets in a single file and 1Mb means it's quite a
 huge file!  If you can't break it up easily (or even if you can but
 don't want to) then it is well worth considering using a specialist
 spreadsheeting program instead of Calc/Excel.  Both the later are
 designed to integrate well with other modules/programs within an
 office suite but means you are carrying extra baggage and your
 computer is using resources to make it easy to switch into
 Presentations, Drawing programs, and all sorts of stuff that you
 probably don't need while using the spreadsheet.  A specialist tool
 focussing resources on, and designed purely for handling, spreadsheets
 might be better.

 Gnumeric uses the same formats as Calc natively and can also handle
 the relevant MS formats and is often found to out-perform Excel and
 even Calc especially on low spec. machines.
 http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric
 From their News section the quick link to directly download their
 latest Windows version is
 http://people.gnome.org/~mortenw/gnumeric/gnumeric-1.12.9-20131128.exe
 NOTE this directly downloads an Exe file!!!  I NEVER usually give
 links like that because you don't know me and have no reason to trust
 me so you really should try the first link and have a look around for
 yourself before attempting any downloading!  The only reason i give it
 this time is because i found it difficult to find on their site so i
 just wanted to make it easier for you.

 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 17 February 2014 23:24, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:

 Tom,

 my thoughts FWIW. I would suggest restoring the latest version, deleting
 your user profile and trying again. This has been known to work in the
 past.

 What operating system are you using?

 is this an old file which has seen a number of different LO versions?

 Cheers

 On 18/02/14 03:33, Tom Cloyd wrote:

 I'm reverting to ver. 4.1.4.2, after spending almost 40 min. this
 morning
 trying to isolate a 

Re: [libreoffice-users] ver. 4.2 copy/past bug

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Cloyd
Hey, thanks, guys. That's a ton of help. I've a bit more time today, and 
will pursue the problem.


There's also some great stuff in your email, Tom, for my carefully kept 
notes on LO, and especially on Calc., which I use a great deal every 
day. You took real time to give me that much info. I seriously 
appreciate this effort!


Thank you both for the quick and thoughtful response.

Tom

On 02/18/2014 01:51 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
If something worked and suddenly stopped working as if by magic then
the first thing to try is to rename your User Profile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

Renaming is better than deleting because you might have tons of stuff
in your profile (templates, galleries, Extensions, file-backups etc)
that you don't want to lose.  If renaming or deleting the User Profile
DOES work then you might be able to copy chunks of your old one back
and that can be a good way of trouble-shooting down to pin-point the
problem.  If you have deleted the User Profile then that is, of
course, impossible.  If you just renamed the User Profile then you can
leave the trouble-shooting to a day when you do find time (or never
but at least it's possible).  If renaming DOES NOT help then you could
rename the old one back without suffering any losses.

On the other hand it is quite possible that you don't have anything
exciting in your User Profile or that it might be a good time to start
afresh with reconfiguring LO's settings and with installing fresh
Extensions that you need now rather than trying to keep using ancient
ones or ancient versions of ones you don't really use any more.


If the problems happened straight after upgrading to a newer version
then reverting to an older version makes a LOT of sense.  Preferably
an x.x.4 or higher.  It's that 3rd digit that shows greater stability.
  The 4.1.4 should be about as solid as they get but some people are on
4.0.6 to get the extra stability of that although they miss out a lot
on features and compatibility with MS formats.  Although i have some
machines still on 3.5.(something) without really missing anything but
then my needs are modest for those machines.  Anyway, 4.1.4 is a good
release and it's worth carrying on following the 4.1.x branch as it
gets developed further and stability increases further.


However 30+ worksheets in a single file and 1Mb means it's quite a
huge file!  If you can't break it up easily (or even if you can but
don't want to) then it is well worth considering using a specialist
spreadsheeting program instead of Calc/Excel.  Both the later are
designed to integrate well with other modules/programs within an
office suite but means you are carrying extra baggage and your
computer is using resources to make it easy to switch into
Presentations, Drawing programs, and all sorts of stuff that you
probably don't need while using the spreadsheet.  A specialist tool
focussing resources on, and designed purely for handling, spreadsheets
might be better.

Gnumeric uses the same formats as Calc natively and can also handle
the relevant MS formats and is often found to out-perform Excel and
even Calc especially on low spec. machines.
http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric
From their News section the quick link to directly download their
latest Windows version is
http://people.gnome.org/~mortenw/gnumeric/gnumeric-1.12.9-20131128.exe
NOTE this directly downloads an Exe file!!!  I NEVER usually give
links like that because you don't know me and have no reason to trust
me so you really should try the first link and have a look around for
yourself before attempting any downloading!  The only reason i give it
this time is because i found it difficult to find on their site so i
just wanted to make it easier for you.

Regards from
Tom :)

On 17 February 2014 23:24, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:

Tom,

my thoughts FWIW. I would suggest restoring the latest version, deleting
your user profile and trying again. This has been known to work in the past.

What operating system are you using?

is this an old file which has seen a number of different LO versions?

Cheers

On 18/02/14 03:33, Tom Cloyd wrote:

I'm reverting to ver. 4.1.4.2, after spending almost 40 min. this morning
trying to isolate a problem. I could reliable crash the problem by trying to
copy two cells in Calc to another location in the same sheet. I got this
error message:

/vector::_M_range_check

/I'm working and have no time to go beyond posting the problem here.
That's just the reality of my life this Monday morning. I'd attempt a bug
report, but every time I've tried that I've gotten lost in the sheer
strangeness of the process. No time for that either.

I can offer to share the spreadsheet in which the crash occurs, for what
that's worth. It has maybe 30 sheets and is about a meg. in size. I did find
that removing about 15 of the sheets appeared to stop the problem, for
unknown reasons.

t.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Cross-platform(?) spell-check bug

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Another one from the Accessibility mailing list.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 18 February 2014 14:42, Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com wrote:
 Hey all.

 Any Windows screen-readers users able to use the LibreOffice spell
 checker? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74242

 If you're seeing the same problem I am in Linux and on the Mac,
 confirmation would be appreciated.

 Thanks!
 --joanie

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Changes in the LO 4.3-dev start screen, intentilnal or bug?

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I am not even sure how to check on this but has anyone else tried
running the 4.3.0 pre-beta-test release and able to see if there is a
dialogue in the right place?

Errr, Marco posted this to the Accessibility list so please make sure
he is cc'd (or in the To field) into all replies!
Thanks and regards from
tom :)

On 18 February 2014 09:06, Marco Zehe marco.z...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi there!

 While testing the latest 4.3-dev build for a change related to bug
 74284, I noticed that the following Option pane from LibreOffice 4.2.0
 is no longer present in LibreOffice 4.3.0-dev, even from before the
 mentioned commit:

 Developer info for navigator object:
 name: u''
 role: ROLE_OPTIONPANE
 states:
 isFocusable: False
 hasFocus: False
 Python object: NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x057C8410
 Python class mro: (class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible', class
 'NVDAObjects.window.Window', class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject', class
 'baseObject.ScriptableObject', class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject',
 type 'object')
 description: u'Click an icon to open a new document or a file dialog.'
 location: (122, 186, 1418, 758)
 value: None
 appModule: 'soffice' (appName u'soffice', process ID 4320) at address
 56b1cb0
 appModule.productName: u'LibreOffice'
 appModule.productVersion: u'4.2.0.4'
 TextInfo: class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'
 windowHandle: 524558L
 windowClassName: u'SALFRAME'
 windowControlID: 0
 windowStyle: 349110272
 windowThreadID: 4328
 windowText: u'LibreOffice'
 displayText: u''
 IAccessibleObject: POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0xe74b964 at 57ec8a0
 IAccessibleChildID: 0
 IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=524558L, objectID=-4, childID=-62
 IAccessible accName: u''
 IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_CLIENT
 IAccessible accState:  (0)
 IAccessible accDescription: u'Click an icon to open a new document or a
 file dialog.'
 IAccessible accValue: None
 IAccessible2 windowHandle: 524558
 IAccessible2 uniqueID: -62
 IAccessible2 role: IA2_ROLE_OPTION_PANE
 IAccessible2 states:  (0)
 IAccessible2 attributes: exception: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error',
 (None, None, None, 0, None))

 Has this option pane really been removed from 4.3-dev visually, or is it
 just no longer accessible via a bug that was introduced?

 Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2014-02-18 Thread T. R. Valentine
I may have missed it, but I don't think anyone responded to this.

On 8 February 2014 18:40, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:

 The problem is that some keyboard shortcuts are not working,
 specifically Ctrl-F12 (opens insert table dialog box) and
 Ctrl-Shift-End / Ctrl-Shift-Home (selects to end / beginning of
 document). However, Ctrl-Shift-Right / Left Arrow select to the
 end / beginning of the current word, as they are supposed to, as does
 Ctrl-a (select all).

My Ubuntu/LO 4.0.2.2 settings for Writer under Tools/Customise:
Ctrl+F12 — Table
Ctrl+Shift+End — Select to End of Document
Ctrl+Shift+Home — Select to Beginning of Document
Ctrl+Shift+Right — Select to Word Right
Ctrl+Shift+Left — Select to Beginning of Word
Ctrl+A — (nothing assigned in Writer; Select All assigned in LibreOffice)


 I have checked in the settings editor for Xubuntu and Ctrl-F12 is set
 to Workspace 12, although I have only two workspaces enabled, and I
 can't tell if Workspace 12 is just part of a preconfigured list where
 it is not actually enabled, or whether anything in the list is
 automatically enabled. I also can't figure out what the keyboard
 shortcut list in the settings editor actually does - e.g., if a document
 window is open do the settings editor preferences override the
 application keyboard shortcuts, or the other way around?

In my experience, making keyboard assignments under Tools/Customise
overrides other settings, for better or worse.

As a test, in Tools/Customise (Customise dialogue box), in the
Functions Category window, I selected 'Format' and in the Functions
Function windows, I selected Italic. In the Keys window was Ctrl+I — I
went to the Shortcut keys window, clicked on Ctrl+U (which showed
Underline as the assignment) and then the Modify button. It added that
shortcut to the Keys window. I then opened a Writer document,
highlighted a paragraph, and used Ctrl+U. It italicised the paragraph.
So making the change there overrode the normal underline function.

Before switching back, I tested it in Calc and found it had also
changed it for Calc **even though the choice in the Customise dialogue
box had been set to Writer** and not set to LibreOffice!


 As for Ctrl-Shift-End and Ctrl-Shift-Home, neither is listed in the
 Xubuntu settings editor, so they should be completely free for
 applications. More importantly, these two shortcuts do not work in
 Gedit or my mail client's compose window either, although I can't check
 the Ctrl-F12 in them because these applications have no table function.
 And all of these shortcuts are enabled in the LO customization dialog
 box.

If I'm understanding correctly, the assignments are correct in
LibreOffice according to the Customise dialogue box?

Do the keyboard assignments appear in the menu (iow,
Table/Insert/Table shows Ctrl+F12)?


 I'm tired of having to use the mouse/menus to select to the
 beginning / end of a document or open the insert table dialog window.

I understand. I would be also.

 Does anyone have any suggestions for places to poke around in? Can
 anyone with LO on a 'buntu duplicate the problem?

In the Customise dialogue box, are any assigned actions associated
with events (Events tab)?

In Ubuntu, the Keyboard Settings allow keyboard assignments in eight
different categories (Launchers, Navigation, Screenshots, Sound and
Media, System, Universal Access, Windows, and Custom Shortcuts). I
presume you checked all categories?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge Wizard fails in 4.2.0

2014-02-18 Thread Alex McMurchy
Hi

Thanks Tom.

I've raised bug -

75166 MAILMERGE: wizard produces empty address block 

Alex


On Tuesday 18 Feb 2014 09:59:36 Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Sorry for the lack of responses!  If it worked fine in 4.1.4 and
 stopped working in 4.2.0 then it's worth reporting as a bug-report.
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
 Obviously it would be good to try 4.2.1 jic it has been fixed already
 but bug-squad/QA can quickly close the ticket if it has been fixed but
 you haven't had time to check it yourself.
 
 
 The main reason it's good to ask this mailing list is if you are a new
 user, perhaps more familiar with other office suites, and have not yet
 read up much of the documentation nor gained years of experience using
 LO/OOo/AOO.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 On 15 February 2014 12:58, Alex McMurchy
 mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  Has anyone else had a problem with the MailMerge Wizard in 4.2.0?
 
  In release 4.1.4 and all previous releases it produced the merged data.
 
  In release 4.2.0 it gives every indication that it is doing the business by 
  stepping, the correct number of times, through the records in the selected 
  address list. It produces the correct number of pages. Each page has the 
  address block in it. However, each address block is empty. I've tested this 
  on Slackware 14.1 and Windows XP.
 
  Has anyone else seen this. If so do you know if a bug has been created for 
  this. I've searched bugzilla and not found anything.
 
  Alex
 
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[libreoffice-users] Realtime Calc in Impress

2014-02-18 Thread Justin Barker (TEMA TOC)
How can I get my spreadsheets pasted into impress to update in real time during 
the presentation?

Best Regards,

Justin Barker
Contractor

TEMA - Production Engineering

+1.859.372.2582


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Has anyone seem this 4.0 article, yet?

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks! :)  I added a comment about the AndrOO working fine with LO
files and added a paragraph about how files in ODF seem more
consistent between different versions and even between different
programs in the wider OpenSource eco-system.  Also had a bit of a dig
at MSO :)))
Regards from
Tom :)



On 18 February 2014 17:11, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 I just received an e-newsletter that referred to this article.

 nice looking small article with a slide show.

 It seems to be listed in the Enterprise Apps section of eWeek's online
 articles.
 It is nice to see LibreOffice and Enterprise go together.

 LibreOffice 4.2 Office Suite Boasts New Features, Performance Boost
 By Sean Michael Kerner  |  Posted 2014-02-03

 http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/slideshows/libreoffice-4.2-office-suite-boasts-new-features-performance-boost.html

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: svg image format import bug

2014-02-18 Thread e-letter
On 18/02/2014, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Confirmed on 4.1 and 4.2 branch. Apparently this doesn't happen with all
 svg
 files.  And inserting an svg with text within a document isn't a problem
 either.


To clarify, the scenario is creating an svg image and adding a text
node _within_ that image file; the vector lines are successfully
visible when imported in Writer, but the text within the image is
invisible. Any existing text in the Writer document remains unchanged
after image import.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Keyboard shortcuts

2014-02-18 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2014-02-18 18:59 GMT+01:00 T. R. Valentine trvalent...@gmail.com:

 I may have missed it, but I don't think anyone responded to this.

 On 8 February 2014 18:40, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:

  The problem is that some keyboard shortcuts are not working,
  specifically Ctrl-F12 (opens insert table dialog box) and
  Ctrl-Shift-End / Ctrl-Shift-Home (selects to end / beginning of
  document). However, Ctrl-Shift-Right / Left Arrow select to the
  end / beginning of the current word, as they are supposed to, as does
  Ctrl-a (select all).

 My Ubuntu/LO 4.0.2.2 settings for Writer under Tools/Customise:
 Ctrl+F12 — Table
 Ctrl+Shift+End — Select to End of Document
 Ctrl+Shift+Home — Select to Beginning of Document
 Ctrl+Shift+Right — Select to Word Right
 Ctrl+Shift+Left — Select to Beginning of Word
 Ctrl+A — (nothing assigned in Writer; Select All assigned in LibreOffice)


  I have checked in the settings editor for Xubuntu and Ctrl-F12 is set
  to Workspace 12, although I have only two workspaces enabled, and I
  can't tell if Workspace 12 is just part of a preconfigured list where
  it is not actually enabled, or whether anything in the list is
  automatically enabled. I also can't figure out what the keyboard
  shortcut list in the settings editor actually does - e.g., if a document
  window is open do the settings editor preferences override the
  application keyboard shortcuts, or the other way around?

 In my experience, making keyboard assignments under Tools/Customise
 overrides other settings, for better or worse.

 As a test, in Tools/Customise (Customise dialogue box), in the
 Functions Category window, I selected 'Format' and in the Functions
 Function windows, I selected Italic. In the Keys window was Ctrl+I — I
 went to the Shortcut keys window, clicked on Ctrl+U (which showed
 Underline as the assignment) and then the Modify button. It added that
 shortcut to the Keys window. I then opened a Writer document,
 highlighted a paragraph, and used Ctrl+U. It italicised the paragraph.
 So making the change there overrode the normal underline function.


The ”normal underline function”? As I understand it, the ”normal underline
function” is defined exactly there, so you didn't override it, you changed
it. Or do you mean that the LibreOffice Customise dialogue box changed the
underline functions in other programs too, such as gnote or whatever?


Johnny Rosenberg




 Before switching back, I tested it in Calc and found it had also
 changed it for Calc **even though the choice in the Customise dialogue
 box had been set to Writer** and not set to LibreOffice!


  As for Ctrl-Shift-End and Ctrl-Shift-Home, neither is listed in the
  Xubuntu settings editor, so they should be completely free for
  applications. More importantly, these two shortcuts do not work in
  Gedit or my mail client's compose window either, although I can't check
  the Ctrl-F12 in them because these applications have no table function.
  And all of these shortcuts are enabled in the LO customization dialog
  box.

 If I'm understanding correctly, the assignments are correct in
 LibreOffice according to the Customise dialogue box?

 Do the keyboard assignments appear in the menu (iow,
 Table/Insert/Table shows Ctrl+F12)?


  I'm tired of having to use the mouse/menus to select to the
  beginning / end of a document or open the insert table dialog window.

 I understand. I would be also.

  Does anyone have any suggestions for places to poke around in? Can
  anyone with LO on a 'buntu duplicate the problem?

 In the Customise dialogue box, are any assigned actions associated
 with events (Events tab)?

 In Ubuntu, the Keyboard Settings allow keyboard assignments in eight
 different categories (Launchers, Navigation, Screenshots, Sound and
 Media, System, Universal Access, Windows, and Custom Shortcuts). I
 presume you checked all categories?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] ver. 4.2 copy/past bug

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Cloyd

Tom,

Well, I'm back on ver. 4.2. I have a lot of files in Calc with links - 
to various sheets, and to other files. THEY ARE ALL BROKEN NOW.


This is a disaster, and reverting LO isn't, I think going to fix it.

Sigh.

Re: faster load/save of files - xml is a text format, and will 
necessarily be slower than a binary equivalent - that's my 
understanding, anyway. I noticed quite some time ago, when converting 
from Excel to Calc that the save took about 3 times as along.


t.

On 02/18/2014 10:12 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks! :)

Xml is the way all the office formats are going.  It does have 3 main
advantages afaik;
1.  When things go wrong it's easier to poke around inside and maybe
even fix corrupted files
2.  It's easy to compress further into Zip or other compression formats
3.  errr, oh i thought it was faster and easier to load/save but i've
never seen anyone produce stats about it.  Now you mention it i've no
idea whether it feels faster or slower to open files.

As for your User Profile, it might be a really good idea to
occasionally create a back-up copy in the same way and then keep the
one with the settings you like best to put on any machine just before
installing LibreOffice or OpenOffice so that you get all your fav.
settings but with all the relevant updated bits added by the
installer.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 18 February 2014 16:41, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com wrote:

  Tom,

I have to say that nothing makes me smile quite like a quick, detailed
response to a problem reported to a user discussion list!

For years, the absolute best list in this regard I've experienced has been
that for the Lilypond music engraving software, but LO's list is surely a
close second.

As for gnumeric - that's totally new to me. I like calc, but do NOT like the
fact that it save files in xml and thus they are large and slow to save and
retrieve. There's just  no need for that. Xml should be an option, with
binary the default, in my opinion. Will definitely give gnumeric a try.

Thanks for the profile-renaming tip. I followed your advice, and thus saved
my dictionaries - probably the single most valuable thing in my user
profile.

Thanks again for all the help!

Tom


On 02/18/2014 09:32 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
No worries!  It's what we are here for! :)

The thing in my answer was to try Gnumeric
http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric
instead of Calc/Excel for that 1 spreadsheet (or for all of them to
make it easier).


Renaming (or deleting) the User Profile seems to fix something like
90% of weird problems that suddenly start but didn't occur before.
It's a magic cure all worth knowing.  I prefer renaming so i can go
back (some day (if i ever get around to it)) to get details of why it
happened.  I keep meaning to back-up my User Profile when i get it
just right but keep forgetting.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 18 February 2014 15:56, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey, thanks, guys. That's a ton of help. I've a bit more time today, and
will pursue the problem.

There's also some great stuff in your email, Tom, for my carefully kept
notes on LO, and especially on Calc., which I use a great deal every day.
You took real time to give me that much info. I seriously appreciate this
effort!

Thank you both for the quick and thoughtful response.

Tom

On 02/18/2014 01:51 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
If something worked and suddenly stopped working as if by magic then
the first thing to try is to rename your User Profile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

Renaming is better than deleting because you might have tons of stuff
in your profile (templates, galleries, Extensions, file-backups etc)
that you don't want to lose.  If renaming or deleting the User Profile
DOES work then you might be able to copy chunks of your old one back
and that can be a good way of trouble-shooting down to pin-point the
problem.  If you have deleted the User Profile then that is, of
course, impossible.  If you just renamed the User Profile then you can
leave the trouble-shooting to a day when you do find time (or never
but at least it's possible).  If renaming DOES NOT help then you could
rename the old one back without suffering any losses.

On the other hand it is quite possible that you don't have anything
exciting in your User Profile or that it might be a good time to start
afresh with reconfiguring LO's settings and with installing fresh
Extensions that you need now rather than trying to keep using ancient
ones or ancient versions of ones you don't really use any more.


If the problems happened straight after upgrading to a newer version
then reverting to an older version makes a LOT of sense.  Preferably
an x.x.4 or higher.  It's that 3rd digit that shows greater stability.
The 4.1.4 should be about as solid as they get but some people are on
4.0.6 to get the extra stability of that although they miss out a lot
on features and compatibility with MS formats.  Although i have some
machines 

[libreoffice-users] Document Recovery window appears

2014-02-18 Thread Muriel Parker
The Document Recovery window comes up every time I open LO.  When I Start
Recovery Recovery failed comes up.  Closing out window I can continue
with LO.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled LO, but it is still happening.

Thanks for help.

Muriel Parker

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Document Recovery window appears

2014-02-18 Thread Alan B
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Muriel Parker rspn...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Document Recovery window comes up every time I open LO.  When I Start
 Recovery Recovery failed comes up.  Closing out window I can continue
 with LO.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled LO, but it is still happening.

 Sounds like the problem I've had.

Next time the Document Recovery window appear press Esc instead of the
things you name above.

Saw this tip while lurking on this list and it worked for me.

-Alan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] ver. 4.2 copy/past bug

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Cloyd

UPDATE re: the below problem:

This is very odd. Here's an example of what I'm seeing: I have a 
hyperlink from a cell in sheet C to a cell in sheet A. I 
click/double-click the link. Nothing happens. I inspect the link, and 
where the link target URL should be I see !!br0ken!!


But the tool-tip over the link advises me to try Ctrl-click and 
that actually works.


Is this the default? Could be, for all I know. And why does the link 
indicate it's broken, yet it still works?


I can make NO sense of this, I'll admit.

t.

=

Tom,

Well, I'm back on ver. 4.2. I have a lot of files in Calc with links - 
to various sheets, and to other files. THEY ARE ALL BROKEN NOW.


This is a disaster, and reverting LO isn't, I think going to fix it.

Sigh.

Re: faster load/save of files - xml is a text format, and will 
necessarily be slower than a binary equivalent - that's my 
understanding, anyway. I noticed quite some time ago, when converting 
from Excel to Calc that the save took about 3 times as along.


t.

On 02/18/2014 10:12 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks! :)

Xml is the way all the office formats are going.  It does have 3 main
advantages afaik;
1.  When things go wrong it's easier to poke around inside and maybe
even fix corrupted files
2.  It's easy to compress further into Zip or other compression formats
3.  errr, oh i thought it was faster and easier to load/save but i've
never seen anyone produce stats about it.  Now you mention it i've no
idea whether it feels faster or slower to open files.

As for your User Profile, it might be a really good idea to
occasionally create a back-up copy in the same way and then keep the
one with the settings you like best to put on any machine just before
installing LibreOffice or OpenOffice so that you get all your fav.
settings but with all the relevant updated bits added by the
installer.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 18 February 2014 16:41, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com wrote:

  Tom,

I have to say that nothing makes me smile quite like a quick, detailed
response to a problem reported to a user discussion list!

For years, the absolute best list in this regard I've experienced has been
that for the Lilypond music engraving software, but LO's list is surely a
close second.

As for gnumeric - that's totally new to me. I like calc, but do NOT like the
fact that it save files in xml and thus they are large and slow to save and
retrieve. There's just  no need for that. Xml should be an option, with
binary the default, in my opinion. Will definitely give gnumeric a try.

Thanks for the profile-renaming tip. I followed your advice, and thus saved
my dictionaries - probably the single most valuable thing in my user
profile.

Thanks again for all the help!

Tom


On 02/18/2014 09:32 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
No worries!  It's what we are here for! :)

The thing in my answer was to try Gnumeric
http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric
instead of Calc/Excel for that 1 spreadsheet (or for all of them to
make it easier).


Renaming (or deleting) the User Profile seems to fix something like
90% of weird problems that suddenly start but didn't occur before.
It's a magic cure all worth knowing.  I prefer renaming so i can go
back (some day (if i ever get around to it)) to get details of why it
happened.  I keep meaning to back-up my User Profile when i get it
just right but keep forgetting.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 18 February 2014 15:56, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey, thanks, guys. That's a ton of help. I've a bit more time today, and
will pursue the problem.

There's also some great stuff in your email, Tom, for my carefully kept
notes on LO, and especially on Calc., which I use a great deal every day.
You took real time to give me that much info. I seriously appreciate this
effort!

Thank you both for the quick and thoughtful response.

Tom

On 02/18/2014 01:51 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
If something worked and suddenly stopped working as if by magic then
the first thing to try is to rename your User Profile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

Renaming is better than deleting because you might have tons of stuff
in your profile (templates, galleries, Extensions, file-backups etc)
that you don't want to lose.  If renaming or deleting the User Profile
DOES work then you might be able to copy chunks of your old one back
and that can be a good way of trouble-shooting down to pin-point the
problem.  If you have deleted the User Profile then that is, of
course, impossible.  If you just renamed the User Profile then you can
leave the trouble-shooting to a day when you do find time (or never
but at least it's possible).  If renaming DOES NOT help then you could
rename the old one back without suffering any losses.

On the other hand it is quite possible that you don't have anything
exciting in your User Profile or that it might be a good time to start
afresh with reconfiguring LO's settings and with installing fresh
Extensions that you need 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Document Recovery window appears

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Cancel the recovery instead of trying to recover.  That should clear
it and usually opens the document more correctly too.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 18 February 2014 21:46, Muriel Parker rspn...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Document Recovery window comes up every time I open LO.  When I Start
 Recovery Recovery failed comes up.  Closing out window I can continue
 with LO.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled LO, but it is still happening.

 Thanks for help.

 Muriel Parker

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