Re: [libreoffice-users] Code line continuation arrow

2014-07-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Does Writer do colour-coding of the various different types of code?  I
usually use a text-editor such as Gedit, Kate or SciTe or something to get
all of that.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 7 July 2014 22:46, Steve Edmonds  wrote:

>
> On 2014-07-08 01:15, Robert Funnell wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Eric Beversluis wrote:
>>
>>  I'm entering some code lines in a LO Writer document. The lines are long
>>> and wrap around and I'm looking for the special character 'curved arrow'
>>> that is used to indicate that it's a continuation line and not a new
>>> line of code. I don't see it in the Special Characters table. Does
>>> anyone know if there's a way to insert this character?
>>>
>>
>> There's this Unicode character: http://unicode-table.com/en/2938/
>> There are other possibilities at http://unicode-table.com/en/
>> sets/arrows-symbols/
>>
>> I don't know offhand what fonts support this.
>>
>>  Or even better, if there's some macro of something that will insert it
>>> wherever the line of code happens to break, depending on how the
>>> document is otherwise formatted?
>>>
>>
>> I don't know about this.
>>
>>  I find I can copy the character from the link above
> http://unicode-table.com/en/2938/
> and paste it into a document and it saves. I can't insert it as a
> character but can copy and paste it to other lines.
> Steve
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Code line continuation arrow

2014-07-07 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2014-07-08 01:15, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Eric Beversluis wrote:


I'm entering some code lines in a LO Writer document. The lines are long
and wrap around and I'm looking for the special character 'curved arrow'
that is used to indicate that it's a continuation line and not a new
line of code. I don't see it in the Special Characters table. Does
anyone know if there's a way to insert this character?


There's this Unicode character: http://unicode-table.com/en/2938/
There are other possibilities at 
http://unicode-table.com/en/sets/arrows-symbols/


I don't know offhand what fonts support this.


Or even better, if there's some macro of something that will insert it
wherever the line of code happens to break, depending on how the
document is otherwise formatted?


I don't know about this.

I find I can copy the character from the link above 
http://unicode-table.com/en/2938/
and paste it into a document and it saves. I can't insert it as a 
character but can copy and paste it to other lines.

Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] base error - no SDBC drive

2014-07-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Have you been able to search the Apache OpenOffice forum for this?

Is the data-source really an external one or is it embedded.  The error
message seems confused as to which it is.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 6 July 2014 19:08, Tom Cloyd  wrote:

> I don't understand why this is happening. I've never seen it before. I
> depend on base for a few things, but weeks or even months can go by with my
> not using it. In recent times, I've installed a number of copies of the
> Master version of LO. I'm now using this version: 4.3.0.2
> Build ID: 14ed55896fdfcb93ff437b85c4f3e1923d2b1409, on Kubuntu Linux
> 14.04.
>
> When I try to open a table I've use for quite some time, I now get this:
>
> /SQL Status: HY000//
> //
> //The connection to the external data source could not be established. No
> SDBC driver was found for the URL 'sdbc:embedded:hsqldb'.//
>
> /What's the best way to respond to this?
>
> t.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spreadsheets not keeping correct formulas and showing jewish?

2014-07-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
If you want pointers to find out about settings and configs for other
languages  and/or countries then you might find the international
translators mailing list quite useful
l...@global.libreoffice.org

Sounds like Brian has helped you fix it already though :)  Congrats! :)
Regards from
Tom :)



On 7 July 2014 10:22, Philip Ward  wrote:

> Hi Brian
>
> Thanks for your help, our studies on other cultures at school was very
> vague, and as of yet, never needed to understand another calendar..
>
> It could possibly be a red herring like you say, i just put 2 and 2
> together, and came up with 5, maybe i should have used a spreadsheet :D
>
> Im running LO 3.4.4 on my works imac, and checking its a USA interface, UK
> Locale & Currency setting...
>
> Just loaded up the document, and just checking the first sheet, the
> formulas seem to have been saved, and work ok, ill just keep an eye on it,
> and see what else happens.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Phil
>
> On 07/07/2014 02:00, Brian Barker wrote:
>
>> At 00:05 07/07/2014 +0100, Philip Ward wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/07/2014 17:01, Brian Barker wrote:
>>>
 At 13:12 06/07/2014 +0100, Philip Ward wrote:

> ... and now i went in to alter the format of the cell ie Date details
> "D  "  giving me "Monday 6 October 2014" but now want to
> shorten the date down to "mon 6 oct 2014", but its now telling me options
> for jewish?? ie " [~jewish]D  " i know i can alter the 
> details,
> but does anyone have any ideas as to why my cells change from what they
> should be? or why i now have jewish in there as well?
>

 Yes and no. There are a few things worth knowing.

 o The definition of ODF says that the format code is "a sequence of
 characters with an implementation-defined meaning", so clearly it can be
 different in different standards-respecting applications. So formats such
 as "D  " are not saved as such in ODF document files. Instead,
 it seems that three things are saved: the date in ISO standard form
 (2014-10-06), the actual text as displayed (Monday 6 October 2014), and a
 description in different terms of your chosen format - such things as:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
 When you reopen a document, the necessary formats must be reconstituted
 from this information in the file.

 o Dates in particular are reconstituted with reference to the current
 locale. If, for example, I enter today's date (6 July) in my UK locale, it
 is displayed naturally as 06/07/14. If I save that in a document and reopen
 it in a US locale, the format is automatically reconstituted differently,
 with the same cell being displayed instead as 07/06/14.

 o It seems that some formats that have been used or appeared
 automatically but perhaps are no longer needed are nevertheless saved in
 the document.

 So I think some of this could be explained by this document having been
 opened and resaved on a system with locale set to Hebrew.

>>>
>>> I understand that the NNNDDD etc are not stored with in the format, but
>>> just wondered where the jewish annotations came into effect?
>>>
>>
>> If I understand you correctly, these are just appearing as possible
>> formats in the Format Cells dialogue. If so, I don't think you should be
>> too worried about them. I don't claim to understand all the aspects of
>> locale settings, which exist separately for operating systems (including
>> individual user settings) as well as for applications, such as LibreOffice.
>> If Calc thinks you might be helped by these offerings but you don't need
>> them, there is no problem I can see
>>
>>  the top reference in the list of pre-set annotations mentioned above is
>>> [~jewish]D  , and in the format box it is "Friday 22 Tevet
>>> 5760" ...
>>>
>>
>> That corresponds to Gregorian 31 December 1999, which is the date used
>> for all format examples in the Format Cells dialogue.
>>
>>  ... and in the preview box it is "Monday 9 Tammuz 5774", i don't even
>>> know if that's correct?
>>>
>>
>> That's Monday 7 July 2014 in the Gregorian calendar, i.e. today.
>>
>>  ... or if the Jewish calendar works on a different format?
>>>
>>
>> Well, yes: it has a different origin, of course - a point in 3761 BC by
>> the Gregorian calendar - as well as different month names, which don't
>> correspond with Gregorian months since they are generally shorter and need
>> additional "intercalary" months every two or three years to keep the
>> calendar in step with the solar year.
>>
>>  I have also as a test just copied the cell into a new spreadsheet, and
>>> it took over the jewish annotation?
>>>
>>
>> By default, pasting carries over formats as well as values. You can
>> suppress this using Paste Special... .
>>
>>  I was just looking for insights as to whether anyone else has had the
>>> problem? i just don't want 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Code line continuation arrow

2014-07-07 Thread Eric Beversluis
That's close enough. Thanks.

On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 09:15 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Eric Beversluis wrote:
> 
> > I'm entering some code lines in a LO Writer document. The lines are long
> > and wrap around and I'm looking for the special character 'curved arrow'
> > that is used to indicate that it's a continuation line and not a new
> > line of code. I don't see it in the Special Characters table. Does
> > anyone know if there's a way to insert this character?
> 
> There's this Unicode character: http://unicode-table.com/en/2938/
> There are other possibilities at 
> http://unicode-table.com/en/sets/arrows-symbols/
> 
> I don't know offhand what fonts support this.
> 
> > Or even better, if there's some macro of something that will insert it
> > wherever the line of code happens to break, depending on how the
> > document is otherwise formatted?
> 
> I don't know about this.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Code line continuation arrow

2014-07-07 Thread Brian Barker

At 08:54 07/07/2014 -0400, Eric Beversluis wrote:
I'm entering some code lines in a LO Writer document. The lines are 
long and wrap around and I'm looking for the special character 
'curved arrow' that is used to indicate that it's a continuation 
line and not a new line of code. I don't see it in the Special 
Characters table.


The first thing to realise is that what you see in this table is 
font-dependent: you will find more possibilities in some fonts than 
others. On my Windows system, for example, I find the DejaVu fonts 
include more characters than most.



Does anyone know if there's a way to insert this character?


Try these Unicode characters:
21A9: Leftwards arrow with hook
21B2: Downwards arrow with tip leftwards
21B5: Downwards arrow with corner leftwards
2936: Arrow pointing downwards then curving leftwards
2938: Right-side arc clockwise arrow

Note that you need to pay attention to whether any such characters 
will be rendered properly in a word processor document on any other 
system, no matter how similar. You may have more success by exporting 
your document as PDF and distributing that.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Code line continuation arrow

2014-07-07 Thread Robert Funnell

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Eric Beversluis wrote:


I'm entering some code lines in a LO Writer document. The lines are long
and wrap around and I'm looking for the special character 'curved arrow'
that is used to indicate that it's a continuation line and not a new
line of code. I don't see it in the Special Characters table. Does
anyone know if there's a way to insert this character?


There's this Unicode character: http://unicode-table.com/en/2938/
There are other possibilities at 
http://unicode-table.com/en/sets/arrows-symbols/


I don't know offhand what fonts support this.


Or even better, if there's some macro of something that will insert it
wherever the line of code happens to break, depending on how the
document is otherwise formatted?


I don't know about this.

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[libreoffice-users] Code line continuation arrow

2014-07-07 Thread Eric Beversluis
I'm entering some code lines in a LO Writer document. The lines are long
and wrap around and I'm looking for the special character 'curved arrow'
that is used to indicate that it's a continuation line and not a new
line of code. I don't see it in the Special Characters table. Does
anyone know if there's a way to insert this character?

Or even better, if there's some macro of something that will insert it
wherever the line of code happens to break, depending on how the
document is otherwise formatted?

Thanks.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spreadsheets not keeping correct formulas and showing jewish?

2014-07-07 Thread Philip Ward

Hi Brian

Thanks for your help, our studies on other cultures at school was very 
vague, and as of yet, never needed to understand another calendar..


It could possibly be a red herring like you say, i just put 2 and 2 
together, and came up with 5, maybe i should have used a spreadsheet :D


Im running LO 3.4.4 on my works imac, and checking its a USA interface, 
UK Locale & Currency setting...


Just loaded up the document, and just checking the first sheet, the 
formulas seem to have been saved, and work ok, ill just keep an eye on 
it, and see what else happens.


Thanks again,

Phil

On 07/07/2014 02:00, Brian Barker wrote:

At 00:05 07/07/2014 +0100, Philip Ward wrote:

On 06/07/2014 17:01, Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:12 06/07/2014 +0100, Philip Ward wrote:
... and now i went in to alter the format of the cell ie Date 
details "D  "  giving me "Monday 6 October 2014" but 
now want to shorten the date down to "mon 6 oct 2014", but its now 
telling me options for jewish?? ie " [~jewish]D  " i 
know i can alter the details, but does anyone have any ideas as to 
why my cells change from what they should be? or why i now have 
jewish in there as well?


Yes and no. There are a few things worth knowing.

o The definition of ODF says that the format code is "a sequence of 
characters with an implementation-defined meaning", so clearly it 
can be different in different standards-respecting applications. So 
formats such as "D  " are not saved as such in ODF 
document files. Instead, it seems that three things are saved: the 
date in ISO standard form (2014-10-06), the actual text as displayed 
(Monday 6 October 2014), and a description in different terms of 
your chosen format - such things as:








When you reopen a document, the necessary formats must be 
reconstituted from this information in the file.


o Dates in particular are reconstituted with reference to the 
current locale. If, for example, I enter today's date (6 July) in my 
UK locale, it is displayed naturally as 06/07/14. If I save that in 
a document and reopen it in a US locale, the format is automatically 
reconstituted differently, with the same cell being displayed 
instead as 07/06/14.


o It seems that some formats that have been used or appeared 
automatically but perhaps are no longer needed are nevertheless 
saved in the document.


So I think some of this could be explained by this document having 
been opened and resaved on a system with locale set to Hebrew.


I understand that the NNNDDD etc are not stored with in the format, 
but just wondered where the jewish annotations came into effect?


If I understand you correctly, these are just appearing as possible 
formats in the Format Cells dialogue. If so, I don't think you should 
be too worried about them. I don't claim to understand all the aspects 
of locale settings, which exist separately for operating systems 
(including individual user settings) as well as for applications, such 
as LibreOffice. If Calc thinks you might be helped by these offerings 
but you don't need them, there is no problem I can see


the top reference in the list of pre-set annotations mentioned above 
is [~jewish]D  , and in the format box it is "Friday 22 
Tevet 5760" ...


That corresponds to Gregorian 31 December 1999, which is the date used 
for all format examples in the Format Cells dialogue.


... and in the preview box it is "Monday 9 Tammuz 5774", i don't even 
know if that's correct?


That's Monday 7 July 2014 in the Gregorian calendar, i.e. today.


... or if the Jewish calendar works on a different format?


Well, yes: it has a different origin, of course - a point in 3761 BC 
by the Gregorian calendar - as well as different month names, which 
don't correspond with Gregorian months since they are generally 
shorter and need additional "intercalary" months every two or three 
years to keep the calendar in step with the solar year.


I have also as a test just copied the cell into a new spreadsheet, 
and it took over the jewish annotation?


By default, pasting carries over formats as well as values. You can 
suppress this using Paste Special... .


I was just looking for insights as to whether anyone else has had the 
problem? i just don't want to go much further, and lose the lot, ...


The question of available formats doesn't affect your use of the 
spreadsheet, does it? I suspect it is a red herring and may have no 
connection with the other corruption you mentioned (about which I have 
no comment).


Brian Barker




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