Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Is there any need to have Linux in a VirtualBox or could you just boot to Linux on your computer - as a dual booting one? I run laptops with Win7 [pro and home] with Ubuntu on one and Linux Mint on another. There are some things I need to run on Windows, that are easier to use than any Linux counterpart. But my default booting for these laptops is Linux. I went to Linux as my default OS in the Spring of 2010 , when I bought this desktop. I originally was using Linux before that on spare system when the cost of buying the needed software using Windows was getting too much for my budget. I found the needed software functions and applications for free with Linux [Ubuntu and others]. Actually I defaulted to Ubuntu since its Live CD was the only one that allowed my HP laptop's audio to work out of the box. As for old brains, well after 3 strokes, I am lucky my younger brain still works. I think healthy exercise for the brain is important, whether you are in you 40's or 80's. My wife has end-stage Alzheimer's and I really know the importance in keeping you mind as active as you can to help reduce the effects of age on your mental abilities. I am a little slower in doing things due to an illness that just will not go away, but I am learning to live with it, just like learning to live with what the strokes left me to work with. On 01/24/2015 08:55 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: Frank, Thank you very much for your soon reply -- I was just working on the installations. The printer seems to be working on the Windows so let us hope it will work OK with the VirtualBoxUbuntu too. Earlier 10-15years ago I used WindowsUbuntu parallell but then I had to rebuild my PC completely and for some reason never installed the Ubuntu again - perhaps too complicated -- but I never gave up the idea skipping windows. Now I re-installed systemprograms again and decided to start working with Ubuntu again. Next step is to learn using ApacheSQLite for my need of databases. I used to work with MSAccess but am not interested in spending money on purchasing and was told that SQLite is easier and not so heavy as MySQL. Do not know yet. Anyway I find this interesting and think it is a healthy exercise for an old brain too (75y) So any guides and ideas how I shall proceed to get SQLite(3) to run in Ubuntu are welcome. Kind regards Pertti Rönnberg On 24.1.2015 14:22, CVAlkan wrote: Pertti: If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a Virtual Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by the host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host system (and you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu. The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you have no issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you should be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything. Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux distro just to use SQLite and Apache? Or was there some other consideration driving that choice? Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137269.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I cannot unsubscribe...please help!!!
Hi :) Usually it's when someone subscribes using some other email account and then reads the mails using an account that didn't do the subscription; http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ I hope this helps you identify which email account was subscribed! Sometimes it's because the email to confirm you are unsubscribing sometimes ends up in the junk/spam folder. I'm CC'ing this email to the postmaster at the same time to see if they can help. Regards from Tom :) On 25 January 2015 at 00:38, James Roberts j...@jsroberts.com wrote: I have tried over, and ove,r again to remove myself from this mailing list. I send the requisit email to unsubscribe, then I get the usual response to confirm it, which I do---and then I keep getting this response back: Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the users@global.libreoffice.org mailing list. The message from j...@jsroberts.com with subject unsubscribe was unable to be delivered to the list (The denied message is below.) Would someone please help me get off this email list. James Roberts -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-website] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!
Hi, Robinson Tryon wrote on 2015-01-24 at 21:50: The migration was a great success. All of our bugs are now happily living at https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/ thanks a lot to everyone involved, especially Robinson, Cloph and Alex - great work, and happy to finally have BugZilla in our own infrastructure! Thanks for the extra work during the weekend, you rock! ;-) Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] libreoffice 4.4.0.2 on opensuse 13.2 tumbleweed, kde 4.14.4
Hi i'm getting a regular issue with opening a writer document, copying some text (highlight text with mouse and ctrl-c) and when i'm about to do something with the copied text, the keyboard locks up (num light on) and the mouse can move about the screen but cannot click on anything. I have to reboot the system to recover. Is anyone else having this problem? regards Ian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Scaling x-axis on chart
On 15/01/15 20:42, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Budgie wrote: On 13/01/15 21:03, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 13.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Budgie: Hi Tom, Thanks for the reply. No joy so far. The problem is expanding the x axis which is using dates. It is set up for date format but I cannot find how to expand the scale. I have a screen shot which illustrates my problem. I shall try and attach it here. If there is another procedure for sending data please let me know. Regards. 1) menu:ViewHighlightValues (Ctrl+F8 Are your dates and numbers highlighted in blue font now? If your dates are black, then they are no dates at all. 2) Chart type needs to be x/y-scatter. Line charts have no numeric x-axis. They treat all values as literal text Hi Andreas, Yes the dates and values in sheet are all in blue. I am using x/y-scatter type of chart. Could the problem be that the dates of the readings are not at regular intervals? I have set the minimum and maximum for the x axis as 01/01/2009 and 31/12/2020 but whatever I do with the intervals the chart stays the same size. The interval controls the interval between the tick marks along the axis (some or all of which are labelled, depending how close together they are). The ticks will always be at regular intervals, even if the points plotted on the graph are not. For dates it's not really possible to get the ticks at exact monthly intervals due to the differing number of days in each month. On one chart where I want them every 4 months, I have the interval set 121.75 (= 365.25 * 4 / 12). The day of month at each tick is not always the same (starting from 01/01/2009, the ticks are sometimes on the 1st, sometimes the 2nd and sometimes 3rd of the month) but it's good enough for my purpose. (OT: How about crowd-funding a project to adjust the Earth's rotation and/or orbit such that a year divides sensibly into months and days? A few £gazillion ought to cover it? May also need to take out insurance against crashing the Earth into the Sun...) Do you mean you want to make the whole chart wider? 1. Click on a cell outside of the chart, to ensure the chart is not selected. 2. Single-click on the chart. 3. There should be a small square at each corner and in the centre of each edge of the chart's frame. You can click and drag those to resize the frame, and the chart also scales with it. 4. Or, for more precise control of the size, right-click and select Position and Size from the context menu, or go to Format menu Graphic Position and Size. If you want to change the size of the chart itself but not the frame surrounding it (e.g. to make expand the chart into empty space within the frame): 1. Double-click on the chart to start editing it. 2. Click on a blank area of the chart's background (i.e. within the area of the axes, but not actually on either of the axes or lines). 3. There should now be a small square at each corner and in the centre of each edge of the chart itself. You can click and drag those to resize the chart. 4. Or, for more precise control of the size, right-click and select Position and Size from the context menu, or go to Format menu Position and Size. Hope that helps. Mark. Hi Mark, Now I am making progress and dragging does expand what I need. Many thanks. I had expected to be able to do it by scaling the axes but what I have now will serve. One supplementary question. At present the key for the various symbols used in the chart appears in the frame and when I expand the chart proper they get in the way. How may I move the key to below so it does not obscure the graph? Thanks again, Budge -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Interesting comment about Writer Bugs in LinuxQuestions.org
Hello, Le dimanche 25 janvier 2015 à 07:12 -0700, CVAlkan a écrit : Ran across this today: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/why-would-my-columns-in-libreoffice-separate-as-zoom-out-and-overlap-as-zoom-in-4175531965/ It includes the quote I know LO often acts like an annoying hysterical wife -- lacking every logic and reacting is every way except the expected way. But it seems like you seriously think LO is reacting on your input, or that you have a computer hardware failure setting the bits just so as to cause this behaviour. Another interesting quote: Since you are running Mint 17.1 I assume LO is fairly up-to-date, meaning in a very unstable development state. I found that LO is bug ridden, and especially contains lot of regression errors in the most simple things. That last bit, although hitting close to home, seems awfully dismissive when appearing on a non-Libre forum, and certainly doesn't help TDF promotion efforts - should someone knowledgeable about the particular problem the posting author describes take a look? I personally haven't experienced the issues he (or she?) describes, so don't feel qualified to act as a diplomat Ideally people could engage in a discussion with the original poster(s) but as it is a non LibreOffice forum, I guess everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, no matter how dismissive it its. I would say it is not primarily up to TDF to answer, but of course understanding this person's issue and help him out, perhaps by having him file a bug report may be useful. On a personal note, I'm more upset by his comment on the annoying wife than on his criticizing of LibreOffice. I'm a married man but I feel somewhat offended by the comparison. Cheers, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Scaling x-axis on chart
Budgie wrote: Hi Mark, Now I am making progress and dragging does expand what I need. Many thanks. That's great. I had expected to be able to do it by scaling the axes but what I have now will serve. One supplementary question. At present the key for the various symbols used in the chart appears in the frame and when I expand the chart proper they get in the way. How may I move the key to below so it does not obscure the graph? A couple of ways... In either case, double-click on the chart to start editing it. Then the easiest is probably to go to Format menu Legend... Position tab, select Bottom (or wherever you want it to appear) and click OK. If you need a bit more control, you can drag the legend to position it. To resize it, click on it and then drag the green handles which appear around it. Thanks again, Budge Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Interesting comment about Writer Bugs in LinuxQuestions.org
Hi Charles: It's all a matter of perspective I suppose. I initially interpreted the poster's remarks as tongue-in-cheek humor, that is to say something like I love her (LibreOffice) and really don't want to be separated from her, but sometimes she (Writer Impress particularly) gets on my nerves. After re-reading the post, however, the word hysterical makes me think your interpretation might be closer to the mark. But, after all, they (I'm not sure precisely who they is) say there's no such thing as bad publicity ... I just wanted to point out that there are some folks out there talking about us behind our backs :( Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Interesting-comment-about-Writer-Bugs-in-LinuxQuestions-org-tp4137415p4137466.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Interesting comment about Writer Bugs in LinuxQuestions.org
Ran across this today: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/why-would-my-columns-in-libreoffice-separate-as-zoom-out-and-overlap-as-zoom-in-4175531965/ It includes the quote I know LO often acts like an annoying hysterical wife -- lacking every logic and reacting is every way except the expected way. But it seems like you seriously think LO is reacting on your input, or that you have a computer hardware failure setting the bits just so as to cause this behaviour. Another interesting quote: Since you are running Mint 17.1 I assume LO is fairly up-to-date, meaning in a very unstable development state. I found that LO is bug ridden, and especially contains lot of regression errors in the most simple things. That last bit, although hitting close to home, seems awfully dismissive when appearing on a non-Libre forum, and certainly doesn't help TDF promotion efforts - should someone knowledgeable about the particular problem the posting author describes take a look? I personally haven't experienced the issues he (or she?) describes, so don't feel qualified to act as a diplomat ... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Interesting-comment-about-Writer-Bugs-in-LinuxQuestions-org-tp4137415.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Interesting comment about Writer Bugs in LinuxQuestions.org
Hello folks, Just one thing about the topic: we do have all sorts of unit testing... just check http://wiki.documentfoundation.org Best, Charles. Le Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:12:27 -0800, Spencer Graves spencer.gra...@prodsyse.com a écrit : Hi, Frank: Thanks for your clarification. I agree on nearly all counts. What do LO developers do regarding unit testing — automated tests to confirm that certain features continue to work? I contribute to another free open-source software (FOSS) project (r-project.org http://r-project.org/), where “trustworthy software” is ensured (when it is) by a process of developing test suites and documentation in parallel with the code. Ideally, we’d like to have 100% coverage of all documented features. Then any fix of one bug that broke something else would be flagged in the next test cycle. However, this is (as you say) a volunteer project, and the coverage is never 100%. I don’t take the time to write tests for every feature, but when new bugs are reported, I add tests for those before I actually fix them. And some organizations pay people full time to support FOSS projects. (I’ve heard that Google supports Linux to ensure that they get features and bug fixes they want. LO would be better if more large organizations make similar investments in LO.) Best Wishes Spencer On Jan 25, 2015, at 12:30 PM, CVAlkan fobe...@enteract.com wrote: Hi Spenser: What you're saying is certainly true, but in this case it really didn't sound like it was pro-Microsoft but rather anti-LO - a subtle difference perhaps, but I believe a significant one. The real danger, I suspect, is that, knowing we're gaining on the proprietary world, we tend to automatically discount some of the comments that are put out assuming they are sour grapes or marketing misinformation. In particular, however, the one responder's comment: contains lot of regression errors in the most simple things (I'm assuming the writer means basic as opposed to simple) is really not that difficult to justify over the course of the 4.x releases, and not recognizing that will not result in the continued progress I think we all want. Even realizing that the 4.x series represents a major step forward in lots of ways, there are quite a surprising number of things that seem to have been broken along the path to cleaning and enhancing the code. I realize that quite a surprising number of things is a little vague, so I'll mention that one piddly insignificant user alone who isn't in any way involved in development or testing (that would be me) has filed several bugs that can be looked up: e.g. 74056, 86578, 88208, and all of these were for things that I recall successfully using in the past. And it isn't hard to locate other new bugs related to indexing, printing, table formatting and so forth that others have filed. Whether these bugs were introduced due to over-enthusiastic coding, cowboy coding (as we used to call it, a flawed integration process, lack of testing, lack of code reviews, and so forth is, of course, not for me to say. And, I'm using the phrase lack of testing to include an amateurish reliance on simple does it work? testing as opposed to doing real testing, which can be summed up as does everything else still work? (that's why good testers are a phenomenally underrated bunch!) I suspect that's one of the difficulties inherent in this sort of development environment: the work is more or less voluntary; developing code is fun and results in creative satisfaction (positive feedback); rigorous testing for most is not (the best result is neutral and often seems or is viewed as unproductive). One other thing to realize is that the comments I pointed to seem to be specific to Writer, which is where the current threat to the proprietary world lies (so far as I can tell, Calc has already reached sufficient parity with Excel for most typical users) and where the naysayers you refer to are taking their current stand. But, sadly, other modules (particularly Impress) suffer from too much attention to cool new features (some of which are admittedly nice), and insufficient attention to serious flaws in fundamental functionality, like remaining on the same slide when you switch views, handling of tables, and so forth. I'll reiterate the purpose of my post, though: I just thought folks should be aware of these sorts of postings, since only LibreOffice users (and not potential ones) are likely to be on this particular forum (hence - we're preaching to the choir as they say). If a major multiple operating system forum has this sort of posting that goes unchallenged, that's another matter entirely; my thought was that even a public offer of help - specific questions and so forth - would be a positive counter-balance. Frank
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Hi, I've been running Ubuntu since 8.10, and have had every version though 14.04. Since 14.10 had minimal changes and since 14.04 is a Long Term Service release, I didn't upgrade to 14.10. Every version has been the standard, including all of the versions with Unity. All have had cups installed in the standard install. I almost always have done clean installs, and not upgrades. Don On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:39 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-21 14:02 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com: Hi :) I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues. I gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know what has replaced it. At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all. With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and now people have no problems using Kubuntu. Printing to the photocopier or the BW laser printer is fine. The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of them seem to work. Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around. Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the BW photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope. I have no idea how to find the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu ones. Regards from Tom :) Tom have you tried this link : http://foo2hiperc.rkkda.com/ ? I'm told it works on Ubuntu With regard to CUPS, if I don't misremember, those file were automatically installed on my (64-bit) Linux Mint 17.1, so I'm a tad surprised to hear that they weren't on Ubuntu 14.04 even if, admittedly, the two distros are not entirely identical Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- ~~ *Don C. Myers*Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division Mobile: (814) 571-9518, Office: (814) 231-8200, Fax: (814) 231-8220 E-mail: donmy...@myersfarm.com donmy...@myersfarm.com *Michelle L. Miller, Associate with Don*Co-Manager, Farm and Rural Property Division Mobile: (814) 574-8001, Office: (814) 231-8200, Fax: (814) 231-8220 E-mail: michellelmille...@gmail.com *RE/MAX Centre Realty* *1375 Martin Street, State College, PA 16803*Farm and Rural Property Website: www.CentralPaRuralProperty.com RE/MAX Centre Realty Website: www.StateCollegeHomeSales.com Don's Farm Website: www.MyersFarm.com ~~ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Interesting comment about Writer Bugs in LinuxQuestions.org
On Jan 25, 2015, at 9:58 AM, CVAlkan fobe...@enteract.com wrote: Hi Charles: It's all a matter of perspective I suppose. I initially interpreted the poster's remarks as tongue-in-cheek humor, that is to say something like I love her (LibreOffice) and really don't want to be separated from her, but sometimes she (Writer Impress particularly) gets on my nerves. After re-reading the post, however, the word hysterical makes me think your interpretation might be closer to the mark. But, after all, they (I'm not sure precisely who they is) say there's no such thing as bad publicity ... I just wanted to point out that there are some folks out there talking about us behind our backs :( Microsoft’s future profitability depends in part on the perceived superiority of their product over LibreOffice. As the LibreOffice market share increases, we can expect more disinformation like that. Spencer Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Interesting-comment-about-Writer-Bugs-in-LinuxQuestions-org-tp4137415p4137466.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
2015-01-21 14:02 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com: Hi :) I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues. I gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know what has replaced it. At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all. With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and now people have no problems using Kubuntu. Printing to the photocopier or the BW laser printer is fine. The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of them seem to work. Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around. Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the BW photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope. I have no idea how to find the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu ones. Regards from Tom :) Tom have you tried this link : http://foo2hiperc.rkkda.com/ ? I'm told it works on Ubuntu With regard to CUPS, if I don't misremember, those file were automatically installed on my (64-bit) Linux Mint 17.1, so I'm a tad surprised to hear that they weren't on Ubuntu 14.04 even if, admittedly, the two distros are not entirely identical Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with writer files
2015-01-24 22:52 GMT+01:00 Andrew Miller asmiller2...@gmail.com:
Everything was working great until two days ago, I can no longer read any
of my saved files in doc format.
It opens into garbled text like this:
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Documents that were created in the past week open up with no issues,
just my previously saved documents converted from word are the issue.
Any help is appreciated
Andrew, to me this sounds more like an encoding problem than an LO problem
- you would normally want your documents to be encoded in utf.8. What
operating system are you using ? If Linux, this web page might prove
helpful : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
Henri
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Interesting comment about Writer Bugs in LinuxQuestions.org
Hi Spenser: What you're saying is certainly true, but in this case it really didn't sound like it was pro-Microsoft but rather anti-LO - a subtle difference perhaps, but I believe a significant one. The real danger, I suspect, is that, knowing we're gaining on the proprietary world, we tend to automatically discount some of the comments that are put out assuming they are sour grapes or marketing misinformation. In particular, however, the one responder's comment: contains lot of regression errors in the most simple things (I'm assuming the writer means basic as opposed to simple) is really not that difficult to justify over the course of the 4.x releases, and not recognizing that will not result in the continued progress I think we all want. Even realizing that the 4.x series represents a major step forward in lots of ways, there are quite a surprising number of things that seem to have been broken along the path to cleaning and enhancing the code. I realize that quite a surprising number of things is a little vague, so I'll mention that one piddly insignificant user alone who isn't in any way involved in development or testing (that would be me) has filed several bugs that can be looked up: e.g. 74056, 86578, 88208, and all of these were for things that I recall successfully using in the past. And it isn't hard to locate other new bugs related to indexing, printing, table formatting and so forth that others have filed. Whether these bugs were introduced due to over-enthusiastic coding, cowboy coding (as we used to call it, a flawed integration process, lack of testing, lack of code reviews, and so forth is, of course, not for me to say. And, I'm using the phrase lack of testing to include an amateurish reliance on simple does it work? testing as opposed to doing real testing, which can be summed up as does everything else still work? (that's why good testers are a phenomenally underrated bunch!) I suspect that's one of the difficulties inherent in this sort of development environment: the work is more or less voluntary; developing code is fun and results in creative satisfaction (positive feedback); rigorous testing for most is not (the best result is neutral and often seems or is viewed as unproductive). One other thing to realize is that the comments I pointed to seem to be specific to Writer, which is where the current threat to the proprietary world lies (so far as I can tell, Calc has already reached sufficient parity with Excel for most typical users) and where the naysayers you refer to are taking their current stand. But, sadly, other modules (particularly Impress) suffer from too much attention to cool new features (some of which are admittedly nice), and insufficient attention to serious flaws in fundamental functionality, like remaining on the same slide when you switch views, handling of tables, and so forth. I'll reiterate the purpose of my post, though: I just thought folks should be aware of these sorts of postings, since only LibreOffice users (and not potential ones) are likely to be on this particular forum (hence - we're preaching to the choir as they say). If a major multiple operating system forum has this sort of posting that goes unchallenged, that's another matter entirely; my thought was that even a public offer of help - specific questions and so forth - would be a positive counter-balance. Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Interesting-comment-about-Writer-Bugs-in-LinuxQuestions-org-tp4137415p4137497.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Interesting comment about Writer Bugs in LinuxQuestions.org
Hi, Frank: Thanks for your clarification. I agree on nearly all counts. What do LO developers do regarding unit testing — automated tests to confirm that certain features continue to work? I contribute to another free open-source software (FOSS) project (r-project.org http://r-project.org/), where “trustworthy software” is ensured (when it is) by a process of developing test suites and documentation in parallel with the code. Ideally, we’d like to have 100% coverage of all documented features. Then any fix of one bug that broke something else would be flagged in the next test cycle. However, this is (as you say) a volunteer project, and the coverage is never 100%. I don’t take the time to write tests for every feature, but when new bugs are reported, I add tests for those before I actually fix them. And some organizations pay people full time to support FOSS projects. (I’ve heard that Google supports Linux to ensure that they get features and bug fixes they want. LO would be better if more large organizations make similar investments in LO.) Best Wishes Spencer On Jan 25, 2015, at 12:30 PM, CVAlkan fobe...@enteract.com wrote: Hi Spenser: What you're saying is certainly true, but in this case it really didn't sound like it was pro-Microsoft but rather anti-LO - a subtle difference perhaps, but I believe a significant one. The real danger, I suspect, is that, knowing we're gaining on the proprietary world, we tend to automatically discount some of the comments that are put out assuming they are sour grapes or marketing misinformation. In particular, however, the one responder's comment: contains lot of regression errors in the most simple things (I'm assuming the writer means basic as opposed to simple) is really not that difficult to justify over the course of the 4.x releases, and not recognizing that will not result in the continued progress I think we all want. Even realizing that the 4.x series represents a major step forward in lots of ways, there are quite a surprising number of things that seem to have been broken along the path to cleaning and enhancing the code. I realize that quite a surprising number of things is a little vague, so I'll mention that one piddly insignificant user alone who isn't in any way involved in development or testing (that would be me) has filed several bugs that can be looked up: e.g. 74056, 86578, 88208, and all of these were for things that I recall successfully using in the past. And it isn't hard to locate other new bugs related to indexing, printing, table formatting and so forth that others have filed. Whether these bugs were introduced due to over-enthusiastic coding, cowboy coding (as we used to call it, a flawed integration process, lack of testing, lack of code reviews, and so forth is, of course, not for me to say. And, I'm using the phrase lack of testing to include an amateurish reliance on simple does it work? testing as opposed to doing real testing, which can be summed up as does everything else still work? (that's why good testers are a phenomenally underrated bunch!) I suspect that's one of the difficulties inherent in this sort of development environment: the work is more or less voluntary; developing code is fun and results in creative satisfaction (positive feedback); rigorous testing for most is not (the best result is neutral and often seems or is viewed as unproductive). One other thing to realize is that the comments I pointed to seem to be specific to Writer, which is where the current threat to the proprietary world lies (so far as I can tell, Calc has already reached sufficient parity with Excel for most typical users) and where the naysayers you refer to are taking their current stand. But, sadly, other modules (particularly Impress) suffer from too much attention to cool new features (some of which are admittedly nice), and insufficient attention to serious flaws in fundamental functionality, like remaining on the same slide when you switch views, handling of tables, and so forth. I'll reiterate the purpose of my post, though: I just thought folks should be aware of these sorts of postings, since only LibreOffice users (and not potential ones) are likely to be on this particular forum (hence - we're preaching to the choir as they say). If a major multiple operating system forum has this sort of posting that goes unchallenged, that's another matter entirely; my thought was that even a public offer of help - specific questions and so forth - would be a positive counter-balance. Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Interesting-comment-about-Writer-Bugs-in-LinuxQuestions-org-tp4137415p4137497.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?
