[libreoffice-users] Re: The UK government embraces open source with the help of LibreOffice - TechRepublic

[V Stuart Foote]

No, definitely not a troll--Jack Wallen is a long present fixture on the Tech
Republic site.

I find his commentary reasonably unbiased... and I think his handling of the
Collabora supported  GovOffice to cover things reasonably well...  its good
press.

Stuart






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[libreoffice-users] The UK government embraces open source with the help of LibreOffice - TechRepublic

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http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-uk-government-embraces-open-source-with-the-help-of-libreoffice/?tag=nl.e011_cid=e011=e011=TRE475558a


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Re: [libreoffice-users] The UK government embraces open source with the help of LibreOffice - TechRepublic

[James Knott]

On 11/11/2015 12:36 PM, jorge wrote:
> It looks like a Troll with a web site, isn't it ?



What are you talking about???

Jack Wallen has long written articles about open source software.

BTW, it's not necessary to send to both me and the list.  I read the
list and prefer to keep the mail there.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] The UK government embraces open source with the help of LibreOffice - TechRepublic

[jorge]

Hi all:

It looks like a Troll with a web site, isn't it ?

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El mié, 11-11-2015 a las 11:48 -0500, James Knott escribió:
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-uk-government-embraces-open-source-with-the-help-of-libreoffice/?tag=nl.e011_cid=e011=e011=TRE475558a
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to upgrade LO on Ubuntu 14.04.LTS

[Pertti Rönnberg]

Joel, Jean-Baptiste & others. Thank you for replying.

A short explanation of my thinking.

Many on this list have expressed the advice not to install the latest 
fresh version but install the latest bugfix of a 1-3 steps earlier 
version, just to minimize the risk of bugs and enjoy new features. OK?


According to LibreO’s homepage the LO5.o2 and LO5.o3 are two different 
versions – probably not only regarding bugfixes but also with some new 
features; the most recent fresh now is LO5.03.2.


So I decided for LO5.02.3 both on my Windows-machines (all 64bit) and on 
Ubuntu. Installing on Windows went OK but seems problematicto get it on 
Ubuntu (!!??)



askUbuntu says not to use PPA because of safety reasons


Joel says LO5.02.3 cannot (as a specific version) be installed directly 
in Ubuntu – not without even more confusing extra hockus-pockus with 
debian.tar.gz, etc (but not recommended?)


May I put my main question this way:

what is the general procedure (definite, correct)  for upgrading an old 

LibreO version to a newer one in Ubuntu (e.g. Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS)

And the “subquestions”:

(a)must the old version (& its help-pack) be removed before installing 
the new one in this Ubuntu?


(b)when upgrading LibreO in Ubuntu does the help-pack upgrade 
automatically together with the main program or must it be installed 
separately?


Please forgive me, I am trying to learn Ubuntu.

Pertti Rönnberg



On 11.11.2015 0:03, Joel Madero wrote:

It is possible. If you want 5.0.2 specifically (not sure why...having
identical versions on all machines really isn't required) but here are
steps (assuming you're using 64 bit machine):

1. Download the debian package located:
https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.0.2.2/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_5.0.2.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
;

2. Untar the file (navigate to folder using your file browser, right click
on .tar.gz, uncompress it);

3. open terminal

4. use "cd" command to navigate to the DEBS folder inside of the
uncompressed folder you just uncompressed, for example if I uncompressed
the tar.gz to ~/Downloads then I would be something like this "cd
~/Downloads/[FOLDER NAME]/DEBS

5. sudo dpkg -i *.deb

for the help files:

https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.0.2.2/deb/x86_64/

Download the relevant one and install the debian file the same way as
described above.


Best,
Joel



On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Pertti Rönnberg  wrote:


Joel,
I have installed the version LO5.02.2 on both my PC (Win 7, 64bit) and on
another laptop and that is why I want to
install it on Ubuntu too.
But obviously it is not possible -- how come?

By the way. Will the LO5.0x.x helppack install on Ubuntu together
(automatically) with the LO-upgrade or shall it be installed
separately?
Pertti


On 10.11.2015 23:39, Joel Madero wrote:


Sorry that is incorrect - you'll actually get 5.0.3 which is the latest
version in the repository.

You can also install from the debian packages but this is not recommended
for Ubuntu users - it is highly recommended to install from the ppa.


Best,
Joel

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Joel Madero 
wrote:

It will install the latest version in the 5.0 repository. You'll get

updates until 5.0 is end of life. You'll have to do the same procedure
once
5.1 is released (add the 5.1 repository, update, then upgrade).

Currently 5.0.2 is the latest version in 5.0 so that's the version that
will be installed.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Pertti Rönnberg 
wrote:

Joel Madero,

Thank you for your reply.
But this is one of the confusing details:  does your answer not lead to
install not
the version 5.02.3 but a later/the latest one?
Pertti



On 10.11.2015 23:17, Joel Madero wrote:

Terminal -

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-0;
sudo apt-get update;
sudo apt-get install libreoffice


Best,
Joel

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Pertti Rönnberg 
wrote:

Hello Linux experts,

May I ask for help -- the instructions on the web are too confusing for
me.
On my laptop (Win7, 64bit) I have recently installed the Oracle
VirtualBox and there Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.
The LibreO version in Ubuntu is 4.2.8 has only Writer, Calc and
Impress.
I want to replace that old LO4.2.8 version -- upgrade it to LO5.02.3
with all its components (at least Writer, Calc, Base, Draw and Math)
but
I do not want the lastest fresh versions.
Can somebody tell me the step-by-step process/commands how this is
performed?
And must the old version be removed before installing the new one?.
Thanks in advance.
Pertti Rönnberg


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to upgrade LO on Ubuntu 14.04.LTS

[Jean-Baptiste Faure]

Le 11/11/2015 13:20, Pertti Rönnberg a écrit :
> Joel, Jean-Baptiste & others. Thank you for replying.
> 
> A short explanation of my thinking.
> 
> Many on this list have expressed the advice not to install the latest
> fresh version but install the latest bugfix of a 1-3 steps earlier
> version, just to minimize the risk of bugs and enjoy new features. OK?

Ok, but you do not do what you say. Current "Fresh" version is the third
bugfix of 5.0, aka 5.0.3. The fourth digit in the version number is the
release candidate number. Current 5.0.3 is 5.0.3.2 because its 2nd RC
has been declared stable enough to be final 5.0.3.

Current "Still" version is the 6th bugfix of 4.4, aka 4.4.6.

Best regards.
JBF

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to upgrade LO on Ubuntu 14.04.LTS

[Joel Madero]

I think you really need to figure out what it is that you want. For
additional help I suggest going to the #libreoffice IRC channel. What
you asked for has been provided (how to upgrade to 5.0.2 as well as
5.0.3). If you want "still" version (I would argue it's not really all
that more stable and you'll miss out on a lot of features that are in
5.x series) you need to install 4.4 not 5.0.

On 11/11/2015 04:20 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote:
> Joel, Jean-Baptiste & others. Thank you for replying.
>
> A short explanation of my thinking.
>
> Many on this list have expressed the advice not to install the latest
> fresh version but install the latest bugfix of a 1-3 steps earlier
> version, just to minimize the risk of bugs and enjoy new features. OK?
>
> According to LibreO’s homepage the LO5.o2 and LO5.o3 are two different
> versions – probably not only regarding bugfixes but also with some new
> features; the most recent fresh now is LO5.03.2.
>
> So I decided for LO5.02.3 both on my Windows-machines (all 64bit) and
> on Ubuntu. Installing on Windows went OK but seems problematicto get
> it on Ubuntu (!!??)
>
>>> askUbuntu says not to use PPA because of safety reasons
>
>>> Joel says LO5.02.3 cannot (as a specific version) be installed directly 
> in Ubuntu – not without even more confusing extra hockus-pockus with
> debian.tar.gz, etc (but not recommended?)
>
> May I put my main question this way:
>
>>> what is the general procedure (definite, correct)  for upgrading an old 
> LibreO version to a newer one in Ubuntu (e.g. Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS)
>
> And the “subquestions”:
>
> (a)must the old version (& its help-pack) be removed before installing
> the new one in this Ubuntu?
>
> (b)when upgrading LibreO in Ubuntu does the help-pack upgrade
> automatically together with the main program or must it be installed
> separately?
>
> Please forgive me, I am trying to learn Ubuntu.
>
> Pertti Rönnberg
>
>
>
> On 11.11.2015 0:03, Joel Madero wrote:
>> It is possible. If you want 5.0.2 specifically (not sure why...having
>> identical versions on all machines really isn't required) but here are
>> steps (assuming you're using 64 bit machine):
>>
>> 1. Download the debian package located:
>> https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.0.2.2/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_5.0.2.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
>>
>> ;
>>
>> 2. Untar the file (navigate to folder using your file browser, right
>> click
>> on .tar.gz, uncompress it);
>>
>> 3. open terminal
>>
>> 4. use "cd" command to navigate to the DEBS folder inside of the
>> uncompressed folder you just uncompressed, for example if I uncompressed
>> the tar.gz to ~/Downloads then I would be something like this "cd
>> ~/Downloads/[FOLDER NAME]/DEBS
>>
>> 5. sudo dpkg -i *.deb
>>
>> for the help files:
>>
>> https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.0.2.2/deb/x86_64/
>>
>>
>> Download the relevant one and install the debian file the same way as
>> described above.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Joel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Pertti Rönnberg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joel,
>>> I have installed the version LO5.02.2 on both my PC (Win 7, 64bit)
>>> and on
>>> another laptop and that is why I want to
>>> install it on Ubuntu too.
>>> But obviously it is not possible -- how come?
>>>
>>> By the way. Will the LO5.0x.x helppack install on Ubuntu together
>>> (automatically) with the LO-upgrade or shall it be installed
>>> separately?
>>> Pertti
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10.11.2015 23:39, Joel Madero wrote:
>>>
 Sorry that is incorrect - you'll actually get 5.0.3 which is the
 latest
 version in the repository.

 You can also install from the debian packages but this is not
 recommended
 for Ubuntu users - it is highly recommended to install from the ppa.


 Best,
 Joel

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Joel Madero 
 wrote:

 It will install the latest version in the 5.0 repository. You'll get
> updates until 5.0 is end of life. You'll have to do the same
> procedure
> once
> 5.1 is released (add the 5.1 repository, update, then upgrade).
>
> Currently 5.0.2 is the latest version in 5.0 so that's the version
> that
> will be installed.
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Pertti Rönnberg 
> wrote:
>
> Joel Madero,
>> Thank you for your reply.
>> But this is one of the confusing details:  does your answer not
>> lead to
>> install not
>> the version 5.02.3 but a later/the latest one?
>> Pertti
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10.11.2015 23:17, Joel Madero wrote:
>>
>> Terminal -
>>
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-0;
>> sudo apt-get update;
>> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Joel
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Pertti Rönnberg 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello 

Re: [libreoffice-users] The UK government embraces open source with the help of LibreOffice - TechRepublic

[Brian Barker]

At 11:36 11/11/2015 -0600, Jorge Rodríguez wrote:

It looks like a Troll with a web site, isn't it ?


No - here's the straight dope:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/collabora-deal-will-provide-savings-on-open-source-office-software

Brian Barker 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to upgrade LO on Ubuntu 14.04.LTS (SOLVED)

[Pertti Rönnberg]

Joel, Jean-Baptiste and especially Andreas,
thank you so very much for your help and kindness!
Pertti Rönnberg


On 11.11.2015 17:49, Joel Madero wrote:

I think you really need to figure out what it is that you want. For
additional help I suggest going to the #libreoffice IRC channel. What
you asked for has been provided (how to upgrade to 5.0.2 as well as
5.0.3). If you want "still" version (I would argue it's not really all
that more stable and you'll miss out on a lot of features that are in
5.x series) you need to install 4.4 not 5.0.

On 11/11/2015 04:20 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote:

Joel, Jean-Baptiste & others. Thank you for replying.

A short explanation of my thinking.

Many on this list have expressed the advice not to install the latest
fresh version but install the latest bugfix of a 1-3 steps earlier
version, just to minimize the risk of bugs and enjoy new features. OK?

According to LibreO’s homepage the LO5.o2 and LO5.o3 are two different
versions – probably not only regarding bugfixes but also with some new
features; the most recent fresh now is LO5.03.2.

So I decided for LO5.02.3 both on my Windows-machines (all 64bit) and
on Ubuntu. Installing on Windows went OK but seems problematicto get
it on Ubuntu (!!??)


askUbuntu says not to use PPA because of safety reasons
Joel says LO5.02.3 cannot (as a specific version) be installed directly

in Ubuntu – not without even more confusing extra hockus-pockus with
debian.tar.gz, etc (but not recommended?)

May I put my main question this way:


what is the general procedure (definite, correct)  for upgrading an old

LibreO version to a newer one in Ubuntu (e.g. Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS)

And the “subquestions”:

(a)must the old version (& its help-pack) be removed before installing
the new one in this Ubuntu?

(b)when upgrading LibreO in Ubuntu does the help-pack upgrade
automatically together with the main program or must it be installed
separately?

Please forgive me, I am trying to learn Ubuntu.

Pertti Rönnberg



On 11.11.2015 0:03, Joel Madero wrote:

It is possible. If you want 5.0.2 specifically (not sure why...having
identical versions on all machines really isn't required) but here are
steps (assuming you're using 64 bit machine):

1. Download the debian package located:
https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.0.2.2/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_5.0.2.2_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz

;

2. Untar the file (navigate to folder using your file browser, right
click
on .tar.gz, uncompress it);

3. open terminal

4. use "cd" command to navigate to the DEBS folder inside of the
uncompressed folder you just uncompressed, for example if I uncompressed
the tar.gz to ~/Downloads then I would be something like this "cd
~/Downloads/[FOLDER NAME]/DEBS

5. sudo dpkg -i *.deb

for the help files:

https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.0.2.2/deb/x86_64/


Download the relevant one and install the debian file the same way as
described above.


Best,
Joel



On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Pertti Rönnberg 
wrote:


Joel,
I have installed the version LO5.02.2 on both my PC (Win 7, 64bit)
and on
another laptop and that is why I want to
install it on Ubuntu too.
But obviously it is not possible -- how come?

By the way. Will the LO5.0x.x helppack install on Ubuntu together
(automatically) with the LO-upgrade or shall it be installed
separately?
Pertti


On 10.11.2015 23:39, Joel Madero wrote:


Sorry that is incorrect - you'll actually get 5.0.3 which is the
latest
version in the repository.

You can also install from the debian packages but this is not
recommended
for Ubuntu users - it is highly recommended to install from the ppa.


Best,
Joel

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Joel Madero 
wrote:

It will install the latest version in the 5.0 repository. You'll get

updates until 5.0 is end of life. You'll have to do the same
procedure
once
5.1 is released (add the 5.1 repository, update, then upgrade).

Currently 5.0.2 is the latest version in 5.0 so that's the version
that
will be installed.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Pertti Rönnberg 
wrote:

Joel Madero,

Thank you for your reply.
But this is one of the confusing details:  does your answer not
lead to
install not
the version 5.02.3 but a later/the latest one?
Pertti



On 10.11.2015 23:17, Joel Madero wrote:

Terminal -

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-0;
sudo apt-get update;
sudo apt-get install libreoffice


Best,
Joel

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Pertti Rönnberg 
wrote:

Hello Linux experts,

May I ask for help -- the instructions on the web are too
confusing for
me.
On my laptop (Win7, 64bit) I have recently installed the Oracle
VirtualBox and there Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.
The LibreO version in Ubuntu is 4.2.8 has only Writer, Calc and
Impress.
I want to replace that old LO4.2.8 version -- upgrade it to
LO5.02.3
with all its components (at least Writer, Calc, 

[libreoffice-users] Re: The UK government embraces open source with the help of LibreOffice - TechRepublic

[Pedro]

V Stuart Foote wrote
> ... and I think his handling of the Collabora supported  GovOffice to
> cover things reasonably well...  its good press.

I'm quite curious to know when "Incremental Windows Installer .MSP patches"
will be available to LibreOffice users...

For developing countries where internet connections are slow it would be a
big improvement to download an incremental patch with a few Megabytes
instead of 200Mb for each x.x.1 update... 



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