Re: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi Patrick,

While this does not address your problem directly, I wonder whether it 
is possible to break your document down into a master document with sub 
documents:


https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Master_Documents_and_Subdocuments

There is also a section devoted to this topic in the writer manual:

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/

Based on the size and complexity of your document, migrating in this 
direction is initially going to take a bit of time and effort. It won't 
be easy! But, again, based on what you have told us, management of the 
existing document is likely to throw up continuous challenges which may 
be avoidable.


Sorry I can't answer your existing problem but I hope I have provided 
food for thought.


Cheers

On 14/02/16 04:54, Patrick Dijkgraaf wrote:

Hi all, hope you are doing well!

Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having.

I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages and
it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations and
custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough it
was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch Linux
and Windows) was OK.

Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux repositories
and now, i run into the following issue:

Symptoms:
  * The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, considering the 
size and complexity of the document)
  * Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be about 471)
  * For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive
  * Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core to 100%)
  * After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the amount of 
pages is a nice 471 again (which is correct)
  * I am then able to edit the document

Technical Info:
  * Document size: 27MB
  * Document type: ODT
  * Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO versions up 
to the latest
  * LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3
  * OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates)
  * System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU and 16GB RAM

Things I've already tried:
  * Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue persists
  * Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB (as opposed to 
the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the original file
  * Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue persists
  * Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4)  inside a Windows 10 
(64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur
  * Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists
  * Reboot my laptop -> issue persists
  * Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue
  * Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> has the same 
issue

So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or just
this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1.

Is anybody able and willing to help me on this?
Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did
not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon
request, please let me know.

Thanks in advance!




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice git repository!

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

On 12 February 2016 at 08:29, Mihuleac Sergiu  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I wanted to know why LibreOffice doesn't uses GitHub to maintain their
> source code. I personally wanted to start contributing but after I saw
> it wasn't on GitHub i started to think twice. I believe this is a
> serious drawback.

Others have already mentioned the independence. More elaborate answer:

http://blog.schiessle.org/2016/02/12/the-next-generation-of-code-hosting-platforms

"Free Software needs free tools"

The oldest/largest meta-projects such as Apache or GNU or KDE have
their own infrastructure. The latter uses GitHub just for read-only
mirrors; in order to contribute you use the Free infrastructure.

The code is a bunch of files so these can be copied but I think you
can imagine what happens if one day issue tracking system (such as
GitHub) disappears. There's no copy of the system.

-- 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr

[Pedro]

Hi Patrick


Patrick Dijkgraaf wrote
> Is anybody able and willing to help me on this?
> Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did
> not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon
> request, please let me know.

You have done some quite extensive testing so it seems to be reasonable to
assume there is a specific problem with LO 5.1.0.3 under Arch Linux.

You could try 5.1.1.1 (aka RC1) which solved some of the problems that
occured under Windows XP with 5.1.0.3. Maybe those fixes also improved LO
under Arch Linux...
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

If that doesn't improve things you should move back to the 5.0 branch
(currently at version 5.0.5) and report the bug at Bugzilla
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/

Hope this helps...
Pedro



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RE: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr

[elderdanlewis]

Do you have enough memory allocated for LibreOffice? Tools > Options > 
LibreOffice > Memory. 

Dan

 Original message 
From: Patrick Dijkgraaf  
Date:02/13/2016  12:54 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes 
>1hr 

Hi all, hope you are doing well!

Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having.

I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages and
it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations and
custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough it
was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch Linux
and Windows) was OK.

Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux repositories
and now, i run into the following issue:

Symptoms:
* The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, considering the 
size and complexity of the document)
* Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be about 471)
* For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive
* Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core to 100%)
* After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the amount of pages 
is a nice 471 again (which is correct)
* I am then able to edit the document

Technical Info:
* Document size: 27MB
* Document type: ODT
* Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO versions up to 
the latest
* LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3
* OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates)
* System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU and 16GB RAM

Things I've already tried:
* Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue persists
* Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB (as opposed to 
the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the original file
* Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue persists
* Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4)  inside a Windows 10 
(64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur
* Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists
* Reboot my laptop -> issue persists
* Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue
* Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> has the same 
issue

So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or just
this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1.

Is anybody able and willing to help me on this?
Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did
not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon
request, please let me know.

Thanks in advance!

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Cheers,

Patrick



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Survey - What do you expect from Libreoffice Draw in the future?

[V Stuart Foote]

@anne-ology"

anne-ology wrote
> Well, the only clickable buttons were to allow to continue the
> survey.
> 
>I attempted to input my thoughts in #1, but it wasn't possible for
> some reason.
> 
>Maybe I wasn't allowing the correct (java or whatever) access;
>   so here's a suggestion:
>  how about a survey of simple text rather than whatever system is
> now in play?

Advance to page ②

Sigh, you are doing this intentionally -- right?   

Starting to have visions of  "Luddites" living under bridge's--no wait those
would be trolls.

Anyhow--just for you--here is content of the survey in simple text.

Stuart

=-=-=
Content in plain text of  survey
  

Usage of LibreOffice Draw

How often do you run Libreoffice Draw?
[never|rarely|regularly|frequently]

How well do you know the application?
[basic|intermediate|advanced|expert]

For what purpose do you use Libreoffice Draw?
[free form]

How often do you use the following features?
[six position range: never --> frequently]
Simple shapes
Lines
Connectors
Freeform curves
Symbols
3D-Objects
Artwork from gallery
Layers
Multiple pages
Import/Export of vector graphics (e.g. svg, odg)
Import/Export of raster graphics (e.g. bmp, png)


In what size are your drawings usually? (add a maximum size if you think
it's necessary)
[free form]

What do you expect from Libreoffice Draw in the future? Where would you like
to see improvements?
[free form]





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Why does each new release screw up the spacing on my spreadsheets

[anne-ology]

   very strange indeed.

   My system avoids all these problems - paper & pencil -> pen  ;-)



From: Robert Peirce 
Date: Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:58 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Why does each new release screw up the spacing
on my spreadsheets
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Most of my sheets are set up so they have an exact number of rows and when
you get to the bottom cell in a column the next row does not pop up.

Each new release of LibreOffice slightly changes that setup.  Either moving
to the bottom cell in a column causes the next row to appear or part of the
next row appears on the sheet.

It is easy enough but a pain to have to restructure the sheets each time.
Is there some way to avoid this?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Survey - What do you expect from Libreoffice Draw in the future?

[anne-ology]

   Well, the only clickable buttons were to allow to continue the
survey.

   I attempted to input my thoughts in #1, but it wasn't possible for
some reason.

   Maybe I wasn't allowing the correct (java or whatever) access;
  so here's a suggestion:
 how about a survey of simple text rather than whatever system is
now in play?



From: V Stuart Foote 
Date: Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:02 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Survey - What do you expect from
Libreoffice Draw in the future?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


anne-ology wrote

> Curiously wondering how to respond in this survey;
>   or maybe it's not ready yet?


The survey is published and open for response from the link(s) given.

It is a simple web browser input form with multiple "guided" dropdowns or
radio button widgets, and  includes several free response fields.

To repeat...

Directly here at
http://user-weave.com/survey/b0edf831f89d4d23bb3d6b6ba3e574a9?12

Or with a brief introduction and linked from a GoogleDocs landing:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W6aIpZhQo7j33f8W3p_nXLAd6tamwjtUxZFx77jArcU/edit

If the link does not respond please try again or try a different browser.

Stuart


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base - automatically running a macro on form opening

[tonybsa]

A long set of macros to open & close forms.

To open a form when the database starts 
select "Tools > Customize > Events > Open Document. 
Click Assign: Macro and assign the DBOpen macro.

HERE ARE THE MACROS. 
As I can't send attachments you will have to copy and paste these into your 
Macro Library

'** LOAD LIBRARY **
'Loads all the tools libraries and opens the connection
Sub DBOpen(Optional poEvent As Object)
dim mydbdoc,CurrentDb,mymsg,metb
On Local Error GoTo Error_Sub
mydbdoc = ""
metb = ""
' load the access library containing the functions similar to MS Access
If GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.hasByName("Access2Base") then 
 If NOT GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.isLibraryLoaded("Access2Base") Then
GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.LoadLibrary("Access2Base")
mymsg = "Access loaded"
 End if
End if
REM Use some methods from the Tools library.
  If NOT GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.isLibraryLoaded("Tools") Then
GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.LoadLibrary("Tools")
mymsg = mymsg & " Tools loaded"
  End If
  'loaded the Standard library which applies to this database
  If NOT GlobalScope.DialogLibraries.isLibraryLoaded("Standard") Then
GlobalScope.DialogLibraries.LoadLibrary( "Standard" )
mymsg = mymsg & " Standard dialog loaded"
  end if
 
mydbdoc = ThisDatabaseDocument
   ' msgbox "The following was loaded " & mymsg ,6 , "Loaded"
Call OpenConnection(ThisDatabaseDocument)
call openThisForm 
 Exit_Sub:
Exit Sub
 Error_Sub:
TraceError("ERROR", Err, "Opening database at DBopen", Erl)
GoTo Exit_Sub
End Sub




'** Use this for opening a data form ***
'we use this to open the main menu when the document first opens
Sub openThisForm(optional openname as variant,optional closefrmname as variant)
dim sfrmName,openit
 ' This is the variable for the form that must be opened at the start of program
 'the normal form to open is the "noticefrm", but for data entry on household 
surey
 'we use the demo_menu form. Data entry is restricted this way.
 if IsMissing(openname) then
 sfrmName =  "noticefrm" ' "planningf/demo_menu" '
 else
sfrmName = openname
 end if
'Closefrmname is the form with the calling btn on it or one that was 
sent from a script
 if IsMissing(closefrmname) then
closefrmname = "noticefrm"
 end if
 call thesearetheforms(closefrmname,sfrmName)
end sub

' Use this to open any form from another form 
'Open a form that may be in a folder. The folders are defined by / i.e 
plan/planmenu
Sub openHierachForm(optional openname as variant,optional closefrmname as 
variant)

dim sfrmName as string
dim sfrmtoclosename as string
dim openit, otestform
'dim canIopenthis as boolean ' These are used to check tha the user is
'canIopenthis = false "allowed to open & view this form
 ' openname is the variable for the new form that must be opened
 if IsMissing(openname) then
 sfrmName = "noticefrm" 
 else
 'the source is the button that was clicked. The button may have a tag in the 
Additional Information field
 'This tag defines who is allowed to open the form. If there is no tag then 
anyone can open the form.
otestform = openname.source.model
'check to see if the user has permission to open the openname form
'canIopenthis =  checkstaffnames(otestform)
'if canIopenthis = false then
'   msgbox ("Sorry you are not authorised to view this form",6,"Not 
authorised")
'   exit sub
' end if
sfrmName = openname.source.model.name 
 end if
 'the form we were on when we clicked the "open form" button 
 if IsMissing(closefrmname) then
sfrmtoclosename = openname.source.model.parent.name 
 else
sfrmtoclosename = closefrmname
 end if
call thesearetheforms(sfrmtoclosename,sfrmName)
end sub
'Changed 9 Sept 2015. The names of the forms to open and close
SUB thesearetheforms(sfrmtoclosename,sfrmName)
'open the new form before closing the original. Prevents "flash" of desktop.
 if thisDatabaseDocument.FormDocuments.hasByHierarchicalName(sfrmName) then
thisDatabaseDocument.FormDocuments.getByHierarchicalName(sfrmName).open
  else
msgbox "Sorry I can't find the form " & sfrmName & chr(10) & "Please 
check the name!",6,"Form not found"
end if
if sfrmtoclosename <> sfrmName then
if 
thisDatabaseDocument.FormDocuments.hasByHierarchicalName(sfrmtoclosename) then

thisDatabaseDocument.FormDocuments.getByHierarchicalName(sfrmtoclosename).close
elseif ThisDatabaseDocument.FormDocuments.hasbyname(sfrmtoclosename) 
then

ThisDatabaseDocument.FormDocuments.getbyname(sfrmtoclosename).close
else
msgbox "sorry I can not close the form " & 
sfrmtoclosename,0,"Not

[libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr

[Patrick Dijkgraaf]

Hi all, hope you are doing well!

Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having.

I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages and
it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations and
custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough it
was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch Linux
and Windows) was OK.

Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux repositories
and now, i run into the following issue:

Symptoms:
 * The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, considering the 
size and complexity of the document)
 * Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be about 471)
 * For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive
 * Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core to 100%)
 * After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the amount of pages 
is a nice 471 again (which is correct)
 * I am then able to edit the document

Technical Info:
 * Document size: 27MB
 * Document type: ODT
 * Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO versions up 
to the latest
 * LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3
 * OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates)
 * System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU and 16GB RAM

Things I've already tried:
 * Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue persists
 * Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB (as opposed to 
the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the original file
 * Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue persists
 * Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4)  inside a Windows 10 
(64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur
 * Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists
 * Reboot my laptop -> issue persists
 * Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue
 * Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> has the same 
issue

So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or just
this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1.

Is anybody able and willing to help me on this?
Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did
not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon
request, please let me know.

Thanks in advance!

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Cheers,

Patrick



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[libreoffice-users] Why does each new release screw up the spacing on my spreadsheets

[Robert Peirce]

Most of my sheets are set up so they have an exact number of rows and 
when you get to the bottom cell in a column the next row does not pop up.


Each new release of LibreOffice slightly changes that setup.  Either 
moving to the bottom cell in a column causes the next row to appear or 
part of the next row appears on the sheet.


It is easy enough but a pain to have to restructure the sheets each 
time.  Is there some way to avoid this?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Knoppix - any users of this Linux distribution

[Harvey Nimmo]

Yes I have a(n old) Knoppix version (V5.0.1) that I sometimes use for
rescue activities. But nowadays for that I prefer to use System Rescue
V4.4.1

Cheers
Harvey

On Fri, 2016-02-12 at 16:40 -0500, charles meyer wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Just a quick off -topic question, s'il vous plaît?
> 
> Please feel free to email me off list for a quick question.
> 
> Thanks so much!
> 
> Charles.
> 

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