[libreoffice-users] Libre Office und IE, Webseiten

[Peter Heinicke]

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
Hallo 


Ich habe meinen Acer Aspire 5742G auf win 10 umgestellt. Seit diesen Tag gibt 
es Probleme mit dem IE, beim suchen im Internet las ich das, das ´ich nicht der 
einzige bin und dies auch mit anderen Browsern ist.
Folgendes ist bei mir, ich kann Webseiten ins Word Pad 
schieben(kopieren/einfügen) aber das funktioniert nicht mit Libre Office. So 
wird auch mein Drucker nur beim Drucken von Webseiten nicht gefunden.

Meine Frage gibt es eine Lösung, Einstellung  für Libre?

Eine Telefongespräch mit dem Support Microsoft brachte nichts. Die meinen ich 
muss über Microsoft Office gehen und es liegt an meinen System selbst. Ich 
müsste immer ein Gerät haben was nicht älter als zwei Jahre ist und mich an 
Acer wenden.
Das wäre dann wohl die größte Abzocke.
Ich hoffe das es eine Lösung gibt die nicht Neukauf heißt.

Danke schon mal 

Gruß….Peter H.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] calc filter?

[Brian Barker]

At 15:01 29/02/2016 -0600, Beau Thompson wrote:

im working on a calc sheet where i have a list of 16 names 1 to 16 B2 TO B17
I like to filter the list in this order 1 16 8 9 4 13 5 12 2 15 7 10 3 14 6 11


Filtering in a spreadsheet arranges that only some rows are displayed 
and possibly that only these are included in calculations. Filtering 
does not sort material, so you cannot "filter in an order".


If you want the items rearranged in some particular - apparently 
fixed - order, why not simply enter or arrange them in that order 
manually? You do know how to move rows?


You can adjust the order of sorting by defining your own sort order 
at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Calc | Sort Lists.


You could add an additional column in your data indicating the rank 
of each existing item. (This column could be hidden or excluded from 
the print range if desired.) So with your example, row 2 in the new 
column would have 1, because you want that row to be first, row 3 
would have 9, as you want it in ninth place, row 4 would have 13, and 
so on. You could then sort your data (if that is indeed what you want 
to do) using the new column as the sort key.


An alternative is to decide exactly why you want the material in a 
different order. It may well be possible to perform whatever 
calculations you need with the material in its original order.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] line numbering

[Brian Barker]

At 19:05 29/02/2016 +0100, Daniel Noname wrote:
I noticed that the line numbering starts from the title and adds the 
one line space between the title and the first line. Consequently 
the first line becomes number 3. Any solution?


You need a solution only when you have a problem. Line numbering is 
numbering all your lines; what's the problem, please?


o The purpose of line numbering is normally to be able to refer to 
specific lines in a document. Any title occupies a line (or perhaps 
multiple lines) and may need to be referred to like any other. So you 
would surely normally want it to be included in line numbering?


o You talk of "one line space" between the title and the remainder of 
the text. Are you using a typewriter?! The way to achieve extra 
spacing between items in a word processor document is to apply 
spacing before or after paragraphs in the paragraph formatting or 
paragraph style formatting. Think of vertical distance rather than 
"lines". If you choose instead to insert an empty line - using line 
breaks - or (more likely what you have done) to insert an empty 
paragraph, you are choosing to insert an extra line and you would 
expect it to be numbered.


o If you insist on having empty lines, you can except them from 
numbering by removing the tick from Count | Blank lines in the Line 
Numbering dialogue.


o If you need some paragraphs - for example, your title - not to be 
included in the numbering, you can arrange this by removing the tick 
from "Include this paragraph in line numbering" on the Outline & 
Numbering tab in Paragraph formatting. You can do this piecemeal in 
local paragraph formatting or in paragraph style formatting. The 
styles route is always better, of course.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Tanstaafl]

Oh - not to mention that it doesn't even accomplish the goal.

What about all of the email prior to adding 'Thunderbird 3' to the mix?
Or your new phone?

As I said, IMAP is the only sane, rational solution.

On 2/29/2016 10:23 PM, Tanstaafl  wrote:
> Possible? Sure, anything is possible, but this is way too breakable to
> even give serious consideration to.
> 
> On 2/29/2016 3:10 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky  wrote:
>> Each e-mail address has its own "STATUS" file.
>> "STATUS" file e-mails are not deletable from the POP mail server unless 
>> specifically commanded to delete them within Thunderbird via a separate 
>> command
>>   or when all "STATUS" files are duplicated based on time stamp.
>> "STATUS" files are based on changes and store individual e-mails and/or 
>> their marking (New, Deleted, Un-read)
>> The frequency of generating time stamped "STATUS" files is based on file 
>> size of STATUS file.
>> "STATUS" file e-mail may only be transmitted with PGP or some form of 
>> encryption.
>> "STATUS" files are created chronologically, each access adds to the 
>> stack to be sent between Thunderbird 1, 2, 3...N
>> The checking of "STATUS" file happens within Thunderbird
>>
>>
>> Thunderbird 1<---> POP mail server <--> Thunderbird 2
>>
>> Thunderbird 1 receives e-mail < -- POP mail server
>>
>> Thunderbird 1 creates "STATUS" file based on changes (New, Deleted, Un-read)
>>
>> Thunderbird 1 sends "STATUS" file via e-mail in PGP encrypted file ---> 
>> POP mail server
>>
>> POP mail server --> Thunderbird 2 receives e-mail including PGP 
>> encrypted "STATUS" file
>>
>> Thunderbird 2 says "You have received a "STATUS", Processing "STATUS" 
>> file now.
>>
>> Thunderbird 3 added and receives "STATUS" file e-mail < -- POP mail server
>>
>> Thunderbird 3says "You have received a "STATUS", Processing "STATUS" 
>> file now.
>>
>> Thunderbird 3 sends "STATUS" file via e-mail in PGP encrypted file ---> 
>> POP mail server
>>
>> I didn't say it was easy, but it is possible.
>> Think of it as a very unique and fancy Message filter.
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Tanstaafl]

Possible? Sure, anything is possible, but this is way too breakable to
even give serious consideration to.

On 2/29/2016 3:10 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky  wrote:
> Each e-mail address has its own "STATUS" file.
> "STATUS" file e-mails are not deletable from the POP mail server unless 
> specifically commanded to delete them within Thunderbird via a separate 
> command
>   or when all "STATUS" files are duplicated based on time stamp.
> "STATUS" files are based on changes and store individual e-mails and/or 
> their marking (New, Deleted, Un-read)
> The frequency of generating time stamped "STATUS" files is based on file 
> size of STATUS file.
> "STATUS" file e-mail may only be transmitted with PGP or some form of 
> encryption.
> "STATUS" files are created chronologically, each access adds to the 
> stack to be sent between Thunderbird 1, 2, 3...N
> The checking of "STATUS" file happens within Thunderbird
> 
> 
> Thunderbird 1<---> POP mail server <--> Thunderbird 2
> 
> Thunderbird 1 receives e-mail < -- POP mail server
> 
> Thunderbird 1 creates "STATUS" file based on changes (New, Deleted, Un-read)
> 
> Thunderbird 1 sends "STATUS" file via e-mail in PGP encrypted file ---> 
> POP mail server
> 
> POP mail server --> Thunderbird 2 receives e-mail including PGP 
> encrypted "STATUS" file
> 
> Thunderbird 2 says "You have received a "STATUS", Processing "STATUS" 
> file now.
> 
> Thunderbird 3 added and receives "STATUS" file e-mail < -- POP mail server
> 
> Thunderbird 3says "You have received a "STATUS", Processing "STATUS" 
> file now.
> 
> Thunderbird 3 sends "STATUS" file via e-mail in PGP encrypted file ---> 
> POP mail server
> 
> I didn't say it was easy, but it is possible.
> Think of it as a very unique and fancy Message filter.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] calc filter?

[Remy Gauthier]

Hi,
My understanding is you want to re-display the list in the order you
provided. If you can calculate the odd indices (the even numbered ones
are always equal to the number of elements minus the odd index plus 1
in your list), replace the number in the sequence by that calculation.
Otherwise, you can place the index directly in the formula. To show the
list in the order you specified, you can use the following, in a
location of your choice, one line per row:
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+1-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+16-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+8-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+9-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+4-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$
2)+13-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+5-1;column($b$2)))
=in
direct(address(row($b$2)+12-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)
+2-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+15-1;column($b$2)))
=indi
rect(address(row($b$2)+7-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+10
-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+3-1;column($b$2)))
=indirec
t(address(row($b$2)+14-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+6
-1;column($b$2)))
=indirect(address(row($b$2)+11-1;column($b$2)))
If your data is displayed on another page, then you can use the page name in 
the ADDRESS function.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Rémy Gauthier.

Le lundi 29 février 2016 à 15:01 -0600, Beau Thompson a écrit :
> HI all,
> im working on a calc sheet  where i have a list of 16 names 1 to 16
> B2 
> TO B17
> I lie to filter the list in this order
> 1
> 16
> 8
> 9
> 4
> 13
> 5
> 12
> 2
> 15
> 7
> 10
> 3
> 14
> 6
> 11
> 
> thanks beau
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[James Knott]

On 02/29/2016 11:18 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
> The unique possibility to SyncPOP instead of IMAP is an interesting
> proposal.
> I would feel far more secure if Thunderbird directly re-aligned itself
> on different machines I use then have it floating out on the web.
> If LibreOffice where to take control of Thunderbird, would it be able
> to become part of an overall system to legitimize document sharing in
> both e-mail client and documents?

To have synced POP, you'd need all devices to sync with each other. 
Given that many are only on part time, that would be a real task.  You'd
need a server somewhere to manage it.  Perhaps an IMAP server?

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[libreoffice-users] calc filter?

[Beau Thompson]

HI all,
im working on a calc sheet  where i have a list of 16 names 1 to 16 B2 
TO B17

I lie to filter the list in this order
1
16
8
9
4
13
5
12
2
15
7
10
3
14
6
11

thanks beau

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

Each e-mail address has its own "STATUS" file.
"STATUS" file e-mails are not deletable from the POP mail server unless 
specifically commanded to delete them within Thunderbird via a separate 
command

 or when all "STATUS" files are duplicated based on time stamp.
"STATUS" files are based on changes and store individual e-mails and/or 
their marking (New, Deleted, Un-read)
The frequency of generating time stamped "STATUS" files is based on file 
size of STATUS file.
"STATUS" file e-mail may only be transmitted with PGP or some form of 
encryption.
"STATUS" files are created chronologically, each access adds to the 
stack to be sent between Thunderbird 1, 2, 3...N

The checking of "STATUS" file happens within Thunderbird


Thunderbird 1<---> POP mail server <--> Thunderbird 2

Thunderbird 1 receives e-mail < -- POP mail server

Thunderbird 1 creates "STATUS" file based on changes (New, Deleted, Un-read)

Thunderbird 1 sends "STATUS" file via e-mail in PGP encrypted file ---> 
POP mail server


POP mail server --> Thunderbird 2 receives e-mail including PGP 
encrypted "STATUS" file


Thunderbird 2 says "You have received a "STATUS", Processing "STATUS" 
file now.


Thunderbird 3 added and receives "STATUS" file e-mail < -- POP mail server

Thunderbird 3says "You have received a "STATUS", Processing "STATUS" 
file now.


Thunderbird 3 sends "STATUS" file via e-mail in PGP encrypted file ---> 
POP mail server



I didn't say it was easy, but it is possible.
Think of it as a very unique and fancy Message filter.



On 2/29/2016 1:18 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2/29/2016 12:57 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky  wrote:

While I do plead ignorance about mail servers, software resident on the
users machine can do what it wants.

To a point, yes...


Since PGP already exists in Thunderbird, a server is not required for
updating.

What pray tell does PGP have to with this discussion?


Theoretically, If I'm using TB on two machines that uses a PGP tied to
an e-mail address, both would be allowed to interact about changes to each.

Changes to *what*??


A change in the status, say a "marked as Deleted" creates a time stamped
"STATUS" file.  This file is e-mailed and received when you go to
another machine to get your email in Thunderbird.  Thunderbird says "You
have received a STATUS update. Would you like to apply it? YES / NO.
This is a clue...

No, that is ... again, no offense ... some words uttered by someone
about a subject that they do not know enough about to try to discuss it.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] line numbering

[toki]

On 29/02/2016 18:05, Daniel wrote:

> I noticed that the line numbering starts from the title and adds the one
> line space between the title and the first line. Consequently the first
> line becomes number 3. Any solution?

Play with the settings in the "Outline and Numbering" section of the
style of the paragraph style.

jonathon


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Tanstaafl]

On 2/29/2016 12:57 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky  wrote:
> While I do plead ignorance about mail servers, software resident on the 
> users machine can do what it wants.

To a point, yes...

> Since PGP already exists in Thunderbird, a server is not required for 
> updating.

What pray tell does PGP have to with this discussion?

> Theoretically, If I'm using TB on two machines that uses a PGP tied to 
> an e-mail address, both would be allowed to interact about changes to each.

Changes to *what*??

> A change in the status, say a "marked as Deleted" creates a time stamped 
> "STATUS" file.  This file is e-mailed and received when you go to 
> another machine to get your email in Thunderbird.  Thunderbird says "You 
> have received a STATUS update. Would you like to apply it? YES / NO.
> This is a clue...

No, that is ... again, no offense ... some words uttered by someone
about a subject that they do not know enough about to try to discuss it.

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[libreoffice-users] line numbering

[Daniel]

I noticed that the line numbering starts from the title and adds the one
line space between the title and the first line. Consequently the first
line becomes number 3. Any solution?

Daniel
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

On 2/29/2016 11:33 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2/29/2016 11:04 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky  wrote:

On 2/27/2016 5:38 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

Lotus SmartSuite was am integrated mail server/groupware solution.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

You are correct again.  But the question is, how can we put the apple
and the orange together.

Turn TB into a mail *server*? Ain't gonna happen, no reason to.

And - no offense, but - anyone suggesting this hasn't a clue what it
takes to make a real mail server *or* client.

While I do plead ignorance about mail servers, software resident on the 
users machine can do what it wants.
Since PGP already exists in Thunderbird, a server is not required for 
updating.
Theoretically, If I'm using TB on two machines that uses a PGP tied to 
an e-mail address, both would be allowed to interact about changes to each.
A change in the status, say a "marked as Deleted" creates a time stamped 
"STATUS" file.  This file is e-mailed and received when you go to 
another machine to get your email in Thunderbird.  Thunderbird says "You 
have received a STATUS update. Would you like to apply it? YES / NO.

This is a clue...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Easy rotate in draw.

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
That would be ok if the object started at a cardinal point.
When you group some objects the angle of the group seems to become the 
angle of the last object in the group.
Rotating a group with cursor is painfully slow for larger groups as it 
calculates the new rotation every step of the way. For now I will just 
have to do the calculation for the new angle.

Steve

On 2016-03-01 06:02, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Sorry, it was not clear that you were not interested in object/image rotation
onto cardinal points.

Cley's method of selecting the object and toggling to rotation mode provides
the incremental rotation.

Note though that some of the objects placed on the Draw canvas will not have
resize/rotate handles, but they can still be rotated from the Sidebar
Properties content panel.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Easy rotate in draw.

[V Stuart Foote]

Sorry, it was not clear that you were not interested in object/image rotation
onto cardinal points.

Cley's method of selecting the object and toggling to rotation mode provides
the incremental rotation. 

Note though that some of the objects placed on the Draw canvas will not have
resize/rotate handles, but they can still be rotated from the Sidebar
Properties content panel.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO?

[Andrea Venturoli]

On 02/29/16 16:00, Tanstaafl wrote:


But, sure, if you ACCEPT the mail, then if you fall under certain laws,
you may have to archive it for a given amount of time.

But, again, in what world does anyone receive (ACCEPT) 2+GB of mail PER
HOUR?

Sorry, but that is just silly.


Besides, you could accept everything on the server, let the spam filter 
move "de facto spam" to a proper folder, keep all the archives on the 
server and avoid subscribing the Spam folder on the client, thus 
relieving TB (or whatever) of this burden.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Encrypted Calc file got corrupted

[Adam Bujdoso]

Cley, thanks a lot, that indeed sounds like a good suggestion as these
corruptions do happen every once in a while.

Is there perhaps any other way to repair/analyse the file?

Many thanks again to everyone.

Best,
Adam

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Cley Faye  wrote:

> 2016-02-29 12:20 GMT+01:00 Adam Bujdoso :
>
> > Does anyone have an idea how the file could be repaired? I am happy to
> > forward the file if someone has a tool to examine it, or perhaps to
> recover
> > it.
> >
>
> ​Unfortunately, I can't do it myself because I lack the time to do so, but
> if someone's up to the task, it could be interesting to have an "extractor"
> for secured files.
>
> From my understanding of the specification, password-protected files are
> "just" like regular files, meaning that they still are ZIP containing
> multiple files. The password-protection is not at the ZIP level, but
> instead relevant files are encrypted before they are stored in the ZIP
> file.​ To remain efficient, these files are compressed using deflate (the
> same algorithm used in zip files) *before* encryption, and then simply
> stored in the ZIP file.
>
> An extracting tool could extract the content of the ODT/ZIP file, and using
> the password decrypt the relevant files. This would make the file
> "components" available for further examination. Since sometimes file
> corruption can merely mean a malformed closing tag in the XML that makes up
> the core of a document, it could be helpful.
>
> This could also make for a useful side-tool for LibreOffice, since these
> corruptions, as rare as they are, still happens sometimes even on
> unencrypted files.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] I'm Having Trouble with Contents Lists

[Terry Coles]

On Monday 29 February 2016 14:16:38 Terry Coles wrote:
> > Insert the illustration, then select it and use Insert > Caption. Make
> > sure the category is set to Illustration. That inserts a reference which
> > is recognised by the Table of Illustrations.
> > 
> > > 3.  I get a similar problem with a Table of Tables.

I just realised what I did.  I'm thinking Title-centric, (like in W**d), 
whereas LibreOffice is object-centric.

So instead of selecting the title or heading of the image or table and trying 
to add a Caption to that, I needed to select the image or table *itself*.

It takes a bit of getting used to for someone who used the main competing 
product at work for the best part of 35 years.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Tanstaafl]

On 2/29/2016 11:18 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky  wrote:
> The unique possibility to SyncPOP instead of IMAP is an interesting 
> proposal.

No, it isn't... assuming that by 'SyncPOP' you mean the broken POP
feature where you can 'leave messages on the server'.

If that isn't what you mean, then you'll have to elaborate.

> I would feel far more secure if Thunderbird directly re-aligned itself 
> on different machines I use then have it floating out on the web.

No clue what 'realign' means here. Do you mean 'sync'? If so, then that
is precisely what IMAP provides.

If you don't want to rely on some third party to host your mail, then
run your own IMAP server.

> If LibreOffice where to take control of Thunderbird, would it be able to 
> become part of an overall system to legitimize document sharing in both 
> e-mail client and documents?

This sounds like a broken way to refer to a groupware server.

I would love for SOGo to adding some real Groupware capabilities, like
file sharing, collaboration, etc.

But again, Thunderbird is a CLIENT. You are talking about SERVER
features, and NO, Thunderbird will NEVER become a full blown mail
SERVER. Why reinvent the wheel? We already have dovecot (and a few
others, Cyrus is good, Courier is old and on the way out, no clue about
UW-IMAP)...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Easy rotate in draw.

[Steve Edmonds]

Thanks.
Unfortunately the rotation is not from relative position. First down 
cursor rotates the object and sets the angle at 0.00 and subsequent 
cursor steps are at 45 degrees.
If the object angle is 23.45 then this will not rotate it 90 degrees to 
113.45

steve

On 2016-02-29 17:16, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Two methods:

(1)
Select image or draw object
Menu Modify -> Rotate
Down cursor to rotate in 45deg increments

  (2)
Select image or draw object
Sidebar -> Properties deck
Tab to the "Position and Size" content panel
directly enter the rotation, or again down/up cursor to rotate in 45deg
increments



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Tanstaafl]

On 2/29/2016 11:04 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky  wrote:
> On 2/27/2016 5:38 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> Lotus SmartSuite was am integrated mail server/groupware solution.
>>
>> You're comparing apples and oranges.

> You are correct again.  But the question is, how can we put the apple 
> and the orange together.

Turn TB into a mail *server*? Ain't gonna happen, no reason to.

And - no offense, but - anyone suggesting this hasn't a clue what it
takes to make a real mail server *or* client.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Easy rotate in draw.

[Steve Edmonds]

Thanks, this works easily.
Steve

On 2016-02-29 17:25, Cley Faye wrote:

An alternative solution you might find useful is simply clicking twice on
an object. The "resize" handles will turn into "rotate" handles. From that
point you can rotate an object by clicking one of the corner handles, and
holding Shift will lock the rotation to 15° increments. This will be
relative to the object initial orientation.

So, if you have something at 5.4° and use this method, you can rotate it to
20.4°, 35.4°, 50.4°, etc.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

On 2/28/2016 11:36 AM, James Knott wrote:

On 02/28/2016 11:21 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

The only thing about Thunderbird, for me right now, was the "chore" it
was to to switch systems when the one it was on, since 2010, is now
down for repairs.  It was not geared for syncing your email between
two or more systems - i.e. desktop, laptop, and maybe tablet -
according to everything I have read.

Then you're using the wrong protocol.  If you are using POP, you will
not have syncing between systems.  If you use IMAP, you will.  With
IMAP, the messages, including sent email, are retained on the server,
where any device or app can access them.  I have two computers, with my
choice of Linux, Windows 7 or Windows 10, a tablet and smart phone.  All
of them have access to all my email.

The unique possibility to SyncPOP instead of IMAP is an interesting 
proposal.
I would feel far more secure if Thunderbird directly re-aligned itself 
on different machines I use then have it floating out on the web.
If LibreOffice where to take control of Thunderbird, would it be able to 
become part of an overall system to legitimize document sharing in both 
e-mail client and documents?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO? Re: [board-discuss] BoD decision from 2015-10-05

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

On 2/27/2016 5:38 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2/27/2016 2:10 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky  wrote:

One of the things I miss about Lotus SmartSuite is its' TeamMail function.

A quick google suggests this is nothing more than Shared Mailbox
functionality. That is Server functionality, TB is a mail client.
Yes, TB is an e-mail client.  Where should it go from here.  How could 
it enhance the use of LibreOffice.

It also included Team Review, Team Consolidate and Team Security.

Sound like Groupware functionality... ?

You are correct.

It might be old school, but it worked.

If Thunderbird could function within LibreOffice in a similar way, it
would be a great addition.

Lotus SmartSuite was am integrated mail server/groupware solution.

You're comparing apples and oranges.
You are correct again.  But the question is, how can we put the apple 
and the orange together.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO?

[Tanstaafl]

On 2/29/2016 4:31 AM, toki  wrote:
> On 27/02/2016 19:06, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> Not sure what kind of real world scenario that falls into

> That real world scenario is adhering to a lawyer's recommendation that
> even de facto spam has to be retrieved and archived to comply with
> assorted federal, state and local data retention laws, rules, and
> regulations.

Actually, depending on the jurisdiction, I'd call B$ on that.

There is NO law that requires one to ACCEPT all mail.

First and foremost you reject mail for invalid recipients. Then there
are a lot of spam cases that can safely and legally be rejected at SMTP
time.

But, sure, if you ACCEPT the mail, then if you fall under certain laws,
you may have to archive it for a given amount of time.

But, again, in what world does anyone receive (ACCEPT) 2+GB of mail PER
HOUR?

Sorry, but that is just silly.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] I'm Having Trouble with Contents Lists

[Terry Coles]

On Sunday 28 February 2016 19:21:32 libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com 
wrote:
>  From Insert > Indexes and Table > Indexes and Tables, set up the
> "Index/Table" tab as desired.
> 
> On the "Entries" tab, for each level you're using:
> - Select the level in the left-hand list
> - Click in the white box betwee "E#" ("Chapter Number") and "E"
> ("Entry") under "Structure and Formatting"
> - Click "Tab Stop"
> - Set an appropriate position for the tab stop

Thanks.  That worked.  It's a shame that at least one space or tab isn't 
included by default.

> > 2.  If I create headings with the Illustration Style and insert a Table of
> > Illustrations, I get no entries.
> 
> Insert the illustration, then select it and use Insert > Caption. Make
> sure the category is set to Illustration. That inserts a reference which
> is recognised by the Table of Illustrations.
> 
> > 3.  I get a similar problem with a Table of Tables.
> 
> Similarly, create the table, position the cursor somewhere within it and
> use Insert > Caption; the category should be Table.

The problem with this is that Insert > Caption is greyed out.

> > Any clues as to where I might find the answer to these problems please?
> 
> Probably in the Writer Guide at
> , but I haven't
> looked to check...

Unfortunately, the Help says to use Insert > Caption.

However, your guidance gave me a clue as to how to get around the problem.  I 
was looking for an Option which might have disabled the Insert > Caption menu 
item and I found an entry called LibreOffice Writer > AutoCaption.  I enabled 
LibreOffice Writer Table, LibreOffice Writer Image and LibreOffice Drawing and 
found that, if I inserted a Table or Image, I was able to generate a heading 
that was collected by the Table of Tables or Table of Illustrations.

However, Insert > Caption is still greyed out, but at least there is a Work 
Round.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Encrypted Calc file got corrupted

[Cley Faye]

2016-02-29 12:20 GMT+01:00 Adam Bujdoso :

> Does anyone have an idea how the file could be repaired? I am happy to
> forward the file if someone has a tool to examine it, or perhaps to recover
> it.
>

​Unfortunately, I can't do it myself because I lack the time to do so, but
if someone's up to the task, it could be interesting to have an "extractor"
for secured files.

From my understanding of the specification, password-protected files are
"just" like regular files, meaning that they still are ZIP containing
multiple files. The password-protection is not at the ZIP level, but
instead relevant files are encrypted before they are stored in the ZIP
file.​ To remain efficient, these files are compressed using deflate (the
same algorithm used in zip files) *before* encryption, and then simply
stored in the ZIP file.

An extracting tool could extract the content of the ODT/ZIP file, and using
the password decrypt the relevant files. This would make the file
"components" available for further examination. Since sometimes file
corruption can merely mean a malformed closing tag in the XML that makes up
the core of a document, it could be helpful.

This could also make for a useful side-tool for LibreOffice, since these
corruptions, as rare as they are, still happens sometimes even on
unencrypted files.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Encrypted Calc file got corrupted

[Adam Bujdoso]

Mark, Many thanks indeed for your advice, these are all very valid points.
I think I have been entering the password correctly, but I will
double-check for sure.


Does anyone have an idea how the file could be repaired? I am happy to
forward the file if someone has a tool to examine it, or perhaps to recover
it.

Many thanks for your help!

Best,
Adam

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:40 PM, 
wrote:

> Adam Bujdoso wrote:
>
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> I have a problem for which I am hoping to get some help from you.
>>
>> I am trying to open an encrypted Calc ods file with some quite important
>> data in it, however, when I type in the password after being prompted to
>> do so, I get an error message "The file is corrupt and therefore cannot be
>> opened. LibreOffice can try to repair the file."
>>
>> When I press 'Yes' to repair the file, nothing really happens, the file
>> still doesn't open, and next time I try to open the file, I get the same
>> error message.
>>
>> Could you please help me fix this somehow? As mentioned this file contains
>> some important data.
>>
>
> It may seem like a silly question, but are you absolutely certain you're
> entering the correct password? I'm not sure whether LibreOffice can tell
> the difference between a corrupted file and one which has been decrypted
> with the wrong password.
>
> If you're typing the password, make sure you haven't got caps lock on (and
> if using a laptop keyboard, make sure num lock isn't on either), and that
> you're definitely typing it correctly. Also check that the keyboard is
> configured correctly for any punctuation characters, e.g. Shift+2 is a
> double-quote (") on a UK keyboard but an at-sign (@) on an American
> keyboard; if the keyboard isn't configured correctly, you could think
> you're typing a double-quote, but the software might get an at-sign.
>
> If you're copying the password (e.g. from an email) make sure you're not
> accidentally copying extra spaces at the beginning or end. Some
> applications automatically include spaces around a word. Also check whether
> or not any punctuation around the password is part of the password - e.g.
> if you have an email saying "The password is Password1.", check whether or
> not the full-stop is part of the password. I had that once trying to log
> into a web site with an initial default password - I thought the full-stop
> was the end of the sentence telling me what the password was, but it turned
> out it was part of the password!
>
> Mark.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird potential as the official/default email-client for LO?

[toki]

On 27/02/2016 19:06, Tanstaafl wrote:

> Not sure what kind of real world scenario that falls into

That real world scenario is adhering to a lawyer's recommendation that
even de facto spam has to be retrieved and archived to comply with
assorted federal, state and local data retention laws, rules, and
regulations.

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to put only two options in a dropdown

[Brian Barker]

At 11:53 28/02/2016 -0600, Beau Thompson wrote:
I have a project that needs a dropdown box on the data sheet E1 I 
like the data from B1 and B16 with this i get all $data.$B$1:$B$16


Easy: you need to define an intermediate cell range for your 
drop-down list. Enter =B1 and =B16 in two neighbouring cells in some 
convenient place and then use the range of those two cells for Source 
in the Validity panel instead of the original cells. Using references 
like this instead of copying the original values has the advantage 
that any changes you later make to the values in B1 or B16 are 
automatically reflected in the intermediate range.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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